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On the Winter Meetings and Frustration

"The Reds have no money and are talking to no one."

This is a refrain that, though factually inaccurate, has become the rallying cry of resignation for this off-season. Sure, the Reds have a little money, and yes, they are talking to a number of folks about possible trades and free agent signings. But watching baseball's Men of Action (namely, the Marlins and Angels) get their work done in dramatically emphatic fashion these past few days has only served to deepen our collective chasm of apathy. The phrase may not be actually true, but the feeling certainly is.

Walt Jocketty knows how you feel, man. When asked about how the Winter Meetings were going, he answered, "Very frustrating. It's that way every year. You plan. We've been working on stuff since the Trade Deadline. You start looking at things, you start putting things together and your plan. You start trying to work on it. You start putting it into play, and you're not able to do anything."

Mr. Jocketty will have to excuse me if I'm not sympathetic to his frustration. It's impossible to know why the Reds aren't able to do anything. Is it because other teams are being unrealistic in their trade demands? Or is it because the Reds are? Without being privy to those conversations, we can't know. What we do know, though, is that this organization has been risk averse - one could say pathologically so - over the past few seasons. Shipping Jonny Gomes to Washington in exchange for a few inconsequential minor leaguers is the only - the only - trade this team has made in the past year.

It's obvious that Jocketty can clearly see the weaknesses of this ballclub. He's stated numerous times this off-season that priority #1 is a front-end starter. And there is still plenty of time left before Spring Training to find one. But watching the Winter Meetings come and go without any movement at all - they didn't even make a pick in the Rule 5 draft - is almost too much to bear at this point. The whole reason for the Winter Meetings is so teams can get together and make deals. Everyone is in the holiday spirit or something like that. But still, nothing.

I know in a more rational frame of mind that I would be more than willing to accept Walt's explanation. But right now I'm pissed off. We most likely only have another two years for this team to win a World Series, and last year was squandered in large part due to complacency and risk-aversion. The clock is ticking ever louder. The Reds must take bold and decisive action. I just hope we have the right man in office to push the button.

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I'm worried that the game has finally passed him by.

He just can’t hang with all the young guys.

He has to realize that YOU HAVE TO OVERPAY for pitching. Especially when you’re us.

Come on, Walt. Get us a fucking pitcher.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 8, 2011 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like from his comments he's close

so I kinda expect something to happen within the next week or so and I still get a sense the deal will be with the Rays.

by vottomatic on Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He did say they were presented with an offer that he was mulling over.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently there is a lot of stuff on the table, if only he'd sell the farm.

I’m guessing he’s just being patient to see if the other team will budge.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The way it sounded is that he was making most of the offers.

I find it refreshing that another team came to us with an offer. It puts the ball in Jocketty’s court.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it won't happen.

But I think I have that same ‘sense’ that it will be with the Rays only becuase we’ve being hearing James Shields buzz since July.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rays are the only team Walt has confirmed he's talked too.

Add to that the fact that Maddon confirmed that the Rays have discussed Alonso, and it seems likely that they’ll be our trade partner.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

The entire world awaits.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You nailed me.

/sulks in corner.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

My day can end happily.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

CTRL+F "cuntfag", nothing.....unreal

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

and yes, I know where it's from.....just making my own joke people

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

My feeling is that a deal is close with the Orioles

Wait…..nope. That was just indigestion from the Papa John’s I had for lunch.

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You kidding? He'd be loved in Cincy

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I do not know if the game has passed him by

I mean he did pick up Chapman.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it's funny how he's doing the opposite of what people expected

He was a big trader with the Cards. Left the farm system in shambles, and had little international recruiting.

With the Reds, there have been few trades. Instead, he’s relying on the farm. And the Reds are recruiting internationally, though it’s hard to say how much of that is Walt’s doing.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

I think it is the strength of people around him

DanO built a very strong front office centered around drafting and developing, that has mostly stayed in tact. Walt is letting his people do what they do best.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

should be interesting to see what becomes of the Cards

No TLR. No Pujols. And no Jeff Luhnow. After eight years with the Cards, he’s the Astros new GM.

Luhnow was, by some accounts, the reason Jocketty and the Cards parted ways. The guy that Jocketty treated like a “war criminal.” According to HBT, Luhnow is a stat wonk who just didn’t fit in with Walt’s old guard, backroom-dealing inner circle. They called him “The Accountant” and “Harry Potter” behind his back. While Jocketty wanted to pursue established stars via trade and free agency, Luhnow wanted to save money by building from within. After Luhnow was promoted against Jocketty’s wishes, it got so bad half the front office wasn’t speaking to the other half. This pissed off the owners. Jocketty told people that he was going to either quit or be fired…and he was right.

That’s why I find it so surprising that Jocketty has stuck with homegrown players so much. He reportedly saw that as a “lose now” strategy.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 9, 2011 6:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you know how influential he was under Moz vs. under Jocketty?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 9, 2011 7:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya.

And I feel ya.

But in your last paragraph you state:

“…last year was squandered in large part due to … risk-aversion.”

This is true mostly in the sense that ‘red ink’ = ‘risk.’

I know we want Walt to be creative and take some chances but we should remember that Bob allowed him to do that and spend money doing it when he signed Chapman. And unfortunately it’s still too early to start figuring the true ROI with that one. So anything that Walt is working on now is likely just rinky-dink tinkering and deals of that sort aren’t (correct me if I’m wrong here) usually reveled in early winter. They come along (to the fans, anyway) after the dust has settled from the WInter Meetings and as we’ll head into Spring Training.

We need a pitcher (or two) and we’ll get a pitcher (or two) but the Reds didn’t just sign a new TV deal with Fox so Bob’s not writing checks to CJ Wilson and Albert Pujols this week. He’s just not.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

Rec for the Shawshank reference.

In all honesty, I wouldn’t be upset if we gave up Alonso, Grandal, and Wood for Shields. I think that would be a really good deal for the Reds.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm giddy for this trade.

It should happen now.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

insta-rec'd

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 8, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Your's weren't as good.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine's was just as good

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't's not.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

double negatives

are a no no

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by dunnateher on Dec 8, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Just remember, jch..

Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Polaroid Instamatics did die. But they're being reborn as internet-postable demotivational posters

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

but they aren't dead!

Now you can use your $400 iPhone to recreate the experience!

Plus, it covers up the fact that your camera still has a 4mm aperture!

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by bbjones on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The Japanese got your back, Scrabbles

We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.

by chesirecat on Dec 8, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

My innocence was a good thing

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

/fineyoungcannibals'd

Do doo be do.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

man, nobody? Really? Even in reference to jch?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

but Fat Vegas Alan is really hilarious.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I admit

I’m not in a totally rational frame of mind right now. So while you make a good point regarding the closer market, it just isn’t satisfying.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the one-potato-chip defense.

Mmhmm. Good. Yes, I see….

MORE !!

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

today?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It looks like we'll find out soon
The clock is ticking ever louder. The Reds must take bold and decisive action. I just hope we have the right man in office to push the button.

Jocketty told our fearless beat writers today that they have a number of deals that they could do if they are willing to part with the players the other team is asking for. To wit:

Pujols out of NL Central
The Rule 5 Draft just concluded without the Reds making a selection in the Major League phase. They both took and lost a player in the Triple-A phase.

But the buzz this morning is the stunner that Albert Pujols is leaving the Cardinals for the Angels with a 10-year, $250 million contract with a full no-trade clause.

Of course, the move has ramifications for the Reds. "The Great Pujols," as former Reds manager Jerry Narron often called him, is now out of the National League Central.

"I think it’s a positive," said Reds GM Walt Jocketty, who drafted and developed Pujols when he was with the Cardinals. "When they lose a guy of that stature, it’s pretty amazing."

As for the Reds, they are leaving town without a trade or signing done. But it sounded like if he would agree to part with the player or players the other team wants, a deal could happen.

"I think so. You never know how a club will react," Jocketty said. "A couple of things we could do. We have to decide if it’s the right direction to go in."

For now, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. One thing he has shown in the last couple years is an understanding of market trends, and the willingness to be patient and let the best deal come to him. He did it with Ramon, he did it with UT infielders (Edgar wasn’t a bad signing, even if he sucked), and it looks like he’s doing it again this year with the closer market. There are more closers out there right now than teams that need one. My guess is you see a good player sign a cheap deal.

Let’s see if he ends up with a good pitcher before we get too upset. The only thing that really sucked is it made this week really boring. Whatevs.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't mind if the Reds decided to look in-house for a closer

But I want to see them make some moves on other fronts. Like starting pitching.

Depending on the Cards and Brewers sucking because they’re losing Pujols and Fielder is not my idea of a great plan.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't admit Rentera sucked!

unless you were talking about a different Edgar…

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and the thing is, teams can ask for the world now and see if someone will bite.

If they really decide they want to trade a guy, they’re probably more likely to be reasonable in January.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like the Angels are the main culprit.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Angels have a bit of a SP surplus now that they've signed Wilson

there was already talk of Santana being traded to free up some cash. Could be even greater possibility now. He’s pretty expensive and only has two years of team control left, but would be a solid #2

by vottomatic on Dec 8, 2011 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

I think they want a Philly-like rotation

Weaver, Haren, Wilson, and Santana isn’t quite Halladay, Cliff Lee, Hamels, and Oswalt, but it’s still really really good.

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, look where that rotation got the Phillies.

Offense wins championships, y’all

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't actually had a comment that befits a baseball discussion in ages.

And the one I do is sarcastic. Glum.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

well, they got Pujols for that

offense and a sick rotation wins championships

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy ****
RT @BNightengale: The Miami #Marlins actually outbid the #Angels for Pujols,offering 10-year, $275 million deal, sources confirm.

by vottomatic on Dec 8, 2011 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

I guess he was afraid of the checks bouncing.

That and he’s possibly somewhat realistic about becoming a DH down the road.

by FordhamRam on Dec 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but thats a whole lot of money left on the table

Florida has no state income tax if I’m not mistaken so its even greater than a $25 million difference

by vottomatic on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

and the lack of a no-trade clause

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, the Marlins don't do no-trade clauses

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that was probably a big factor

They said days ago that that was the sticking point.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The Marlins should feel like Neo

“What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?”
“No, Marlins. I’m trying to tell you that when you’re ready, you won’t have to. "

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by Slyde on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps both Wilson and Pujols were afraid of what happens if things don't work out

they would be two very expensive players on a piece of shit team.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That can still happen.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Angel's have had high payrolls though

the Marlin’s are making their decisions on optimistic projections and hope.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to assume they have people that figured out how much they are going to make.

I really don’t think they’d go in to this blind.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

For the Marlin's entire existence they have had low payrolls (except in 1997) and low attendance.

I am sure they had some people do projections about what a new stadium would do for them, but again we don’t know for sure until it happens.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean

I would have liked to have assumed that over the last 10-15 years banks gave mortgages to people who they were fairly certain could pay them back.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Mainly because the stadium was built with tax dollars.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

well it is far from perfect

but it demonstrates that business people can be overly optimistic.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this picture captures the essence of this week

Bravo.

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by rorschach1979 on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Or overly cynical

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

bubble burst'd

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

They're so cute together.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

these too seem like a more natural pear though.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer the classics.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

like Bush's first homecoming dance?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Do you think he got an OTPF?

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nuh-uh

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

"He didn't believe me, but it really is this big!"

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true.

However, I thought they were projecting a lot of new money from advertising revenues and the such. I know they are expecting a larger boost in attendance, but I didn’t think that was all they were looking at.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait when the lawsuits for the epileptic seizures roll in.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not your diabetes, Chuck.

It’s your inner fabulousness.

Let it out, Chuck. Go with it!

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

But, you still have the other one right? RIGHT?

Cause if you don’t then you can’t enter the ass kicking contest.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

nope, left

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That one doesn't work as well.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

is there a youtube video?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There are a couple.

Here’s the best one.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Love.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I love this

it’s like if Neptune just said “fuck it” and opened a casino in the ocean because it isn’t on US soil

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

But, the cards would get soggy.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, that's what makes it implausible.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sand dollars!!!!!

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yup. they wouldn't play craps either

they’d play crabs. Like jch’s friday night

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's the greatest.

After grand slams, it supposedly “makes it rain.”

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

And everyone got really mad at those people so they left town.

And went to work for John Corzine at MF Global.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

x

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotcha Cy

Walt is saying “OH I missed!”

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hornberger with this bit of news
DKnobler
Reds continue to pursue a starting pitcher, but no real progress yet. Top targets: Jair Jurrjens, and the guys from Rays.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

THIRTY SEVEN

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

in a row?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 9, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What about Jurjens and Sheilds?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's too late not see Walt as risk-averse in swapping over the last year-plus

Since the trade deadline 2010, a year and a half a go, he’s basically gotten a minute of Jim Edmonds and dealt Gomes so that Dusty could maybe play Yonder Alonso a little bit.

But it’s also too early in the sense that the farmhands Walt hasn’t been willing to trade are all graduating, with Grandal and others on the way.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

teh Fay

points out the Reds have not made a major trade since July 2009.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Was that Rolen?

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

A year and a half since a major trade? Oh the huge manatee!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

One significant FA signing or trade in two-plus years

at a time when you are supposed to be competing is awfully weak.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 10, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

*Cuts self*

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

*bleeds on the carpet*

mom gets mad

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that 2 minutes was such a waste of my time

At least I’m not robbing taxpayers to goof off. #ohsnap

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by Slyde on Dec 8, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

That's a pretty low bar

#Now It’s Just Getting Mean

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

no, I would think people liked me more

but in reality, everybody would actually hate my pompousness. #sadface

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by Slyde on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We do that now

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I thought we were talking about 'creds' pompousness

#TwoBirdsOneStone

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Slyde's neighbor's lawnmower is running

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The only trade the Reds have made in the last year was to get rid of Gomes

Am I forgetting something, or does that mean the most recent trade the Reds made was the one that brough the wonderful Jim Edmonds into our lives?

by ams78 on Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

I think the Angels mist have found the smoking gun on Pujols age.

They’ve got proof that he’s really 35, so they jumped at signing him knowing that the moment he starts to play old and sucky they can expose him and void his contract…all while getting a decent year or two out of him for $25mil per.

I still say move Yonder to 1st, sign Beltran for LF, and trade Votto for Ricky Romero, Yunel Escobar, and Kyle Drabek.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 8, 2011 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think they can void his contract for that, actually

this scenario played out with Miguel Tejada.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on what's written into the contract, I would guess

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, if they put a "falsification of age" clause in there

then yeah

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That might work too

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I really doubt that would work.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 8, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

just throwing it out there, I have no clue on legal stuff

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be a huge PITA to try to void a contract

The union would throw everything they could at you. You’d need a better case than a slight age discrepancy.

I think the Rox tried to void Neagle’s contract after a DUI, or maybe it was soliciting a prostitute. I should look it up but I think they ended up paying him practically the entire deal just to go away.

by ken on Dec 8, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

it was both I think, and I agree

The union would do everything they could to avoid setting a precedent.

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by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Darvish has no say

Because of the posting system.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The Reds need to out post everyone!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

WHO'S GOING TO TALK TO THEM?

#notredscatchers

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Check out Pujols' numbers against the NL Central

Astros: .311/.402/.569, 42 HR, 112 RBI in 655 AB
Brewers: 329/.424/.616, 42 HR, 140 RBI in 636 AB
Cubs: .302/.405/.616, 53 HR, 135 RBI in 632 AB
Pirates: .365/.451/.681, 48 HR, 145 RBI in 633 AB
Reds: .350/.430/.641, 46 HR, 143 RBI in 652 AB

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

AL you mean.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oy

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 8, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

turn to Channel 11, man

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuckin' rec'd, man.

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by BK on Dec 8, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob looks like just got a shipment of brown bananas.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

That's racist?

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Could be worse

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Raven Riley is smiling.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

why?

is that inside her right now?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If it isn't she is buying one.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

this is seriously freaking me out

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

if you are still a mod you can delete it

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP!!!!

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

UP WITH SKIRTS!!!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

not saying it's inappropriate

just saying it’s freaking me right the fuck out

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

you have the eraser, abuse it

i abuse any power handed to me.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I abuse the erasers that are powered to me

huh?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

And you wonder why you don't have a job

#zing

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

fuck jobs!

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I AGREE

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ashton Kutcher is on TV's #1 sitcom! #sp

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 9, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That show being #1

is exhibit A why ’Merica is full of fucking morons.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 9, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a show for everyone! #sp

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay!

Now do a plantain!

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

x

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay!

Now do genocide!

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I just busted out laughing in class.

Damn.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

how are your kids today?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in a vocational school.

They are doing things with machine shop tools. I have five kids, they are blaring music on the radio, and I’m bored.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a day like that once

today my kids were great, and it was such an easy and almost fun day.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of my days are easy, but usually I get to do something.

The days I’m in a lab are excruciating.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

well i mean there are no hard days

but the regular teacher’s ability to maintain class room control really effects my day. If the kids really respect their teacher and don’t want to get/are afraid of a bad report it is a really easy day.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If they aren't afraid of their teacher, I can usually get them to be afraid of me fairly quickly.

I don’t do much in class until you piss me off.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You think so, huh?

In my experience, subs who come in and play the tough guy usually get laughed at or ignored. Or humiliated.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I said this on twitter yesterday

Kids are like dogs. You have to beat them until they behave the way you want.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Make a couple middle school kids cry and they all shape up real quick.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

a.k.a. the jch dating plan

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think so

Just a GIS of “disgusted face”.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 8, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That guy looks snohio kin

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by BK on Dec 8, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a good call

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends on how you do it.

I know several that have tried it, and it blows up in their face. The trick is to not be the tough guy at first. Stay in the shadows, let them do what they want, but when they start breaking rules you pounce. I set an early understanding with my students that I don’t care what they do. As long as they are relatively quiet and not screwing with people I’m cool. Once you cross some lines then I’m forced to do something. Plus, it helps that I’m bigger than 95% of them.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i tell my kids at the begining of every class

that my basic goal is for them to not be so loud that they disturb the class next to me, and for them to stay in their seats, so if somebody walks in my class does not appear to be in chaos, and if they make my day easy i’ll make their day easy.

Some kids understand that I really don’t want to deal with discipline issues, and i am not out to cause problems. Those classes are the best.

Others don’t fully understand that and I usually kick them out fairly quickly. I also never threaten punishment and fail to follow through, so the second time i have a group of “problems” it is easier.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You both are describing standard sub survival tactics

All of which work on the 90-95% of kids who don’t really want to cause trouble. But if you are unlucky enough to get in with the kids who do, you are basically powerless. And I say this as someone who has done my share of covering classes.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me man, I sub in a vocational school.

The only step down from this is alternative schools. These kids do not care as long as you stay out of their way. If they go to far then it is a simple trip to the dean.

But, I’m also used to all of it being a licensed teacher. I had to deal with some real shit bags in student teaching.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Never threaten something and not do it. That is when you lose them.

For example, I just had some guys running around snapping each other with towels. All it took was one look and they put them away.

The funniest was when a kid was throwing paper wads. I told him if he did it again I’d make him sweep the floor. I caught him tossing another one. I went to the janitor’s closet and got a broom. The public humilation of him sweeping the floor, and me walking behind him and pointing out spots he missed was enough.

But, I also know the administrators pretty well. So, all of this stuff works for me.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i was with a student teacher a couple of weeks ago

and she kept threatening and did not follow through. She also kept capitulating on what they had to do in class, and as they got closer to the bell cut down on the work they needed to do because everyone was screwing around. I mean the kids have realized that if they don’t do their work she will ask them to do less, and she will never follow through on punishment. What incentive do they have to do their work and behave (other than getting good grades and shit)?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

In my classes I didn't grade homework.

You received completion grades and we went over it as a class. But, if you didn’t do it before class it was a zero. If they didn’t do the homework I didn’t care. It wasn’t my grade. A lot of the kids figured it out pretty quick to do the assignments because my tests are harder then hell. Well, they think they are. I always thought they were easy because the questions are exactly from worksheets, notes, and lessons.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

In my district in lower level classes, teachers are discouraged from giving out too much homework

because kids weren’t doing their work and were failing. The district has even gone as fair as giving middle school students a 30 minutes advisory period every day so they can do their homework with the guidence of a teacher.

You know it is much better we spoon feed the kids so they graduate regardless of them learning anything including responsibility, than letting lazy kids who don’t do their work suffer the consequences of being held back or not graduating… My time as a sub has actually completely turned me off on getting a teacher’s license.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen, Yossi

I’m out of teaching now…

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds typical

Same thing is happening with my wife. But down here, at least in VA, it’s driven by state and federal mandates.

At least you’re not teaching/subbing in a middle school where white kids are the minority and almost 50% of your kids don’t speak English as a first language

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 8, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Because those kids don't need you in there, you know...

teaching.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Have I mentioned that I miss daedalus? I'd have been all like...

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it would have made for fun ...dialogue

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh yeah, that would've been soooo fun

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 8, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

here too

they have to graduate so many people or their funding gets cut.

I just feel like that teachers are expected to make kids graduate, which is doing a disservice to the kids, kids should want to graduate out of their own self interest, and it should be the teacher’s job to give them the tools to do the best in school that they can.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

this is 'Merica!

speak English, damnit!

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 9, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

"my tests are harder then hell."

Heheheh.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFY

“my tests are harder then hell to decipher what the hell I’m saying”

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lots o' sin

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots o' sin

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And then a double post.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 8, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So much sin you have to post twice about it

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

So much sin you have to post twice about it

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahh, the ol' Genocide Smith.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

"All I wanna do is eat pizza..."

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, this from Jocketty (via Sheldon)
As for Brandon Phillips, Jocketty finally met with his agents but the latest offer appears to have been rejected.

"I went alright I guess," Jocketty said of the meeting. "I don’t know if they weren’t completely happy. They didn’t agree to it."

“I don’t know if they weren’t completely happy.” What does that even mean?

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by Slyde on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

if it were a Fay update this would make more sense.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Fay wrote it as

“I don’t know if they were completely happy.”

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it means it is the Reds final offer.

Take it or leave it.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Coconuts?

Cock nuts?

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

silly YOU indeed

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

My guess is that quote was (unfortunately) take out of the context of a quick Q&A.

Reporter: “How did it go? They didn’t agree to it so evidently they weren’t completely happy with the offer?”

Jocketty: “I went alright I guess,” Jocketty said of the meeting. “I don’t know if they weren’t completely happy. They didn’t agree to it.”

See, it’s kinda like when someone hands you one lasagna noodle instead of a whole slice on a plate.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Garfield minus Garfield is fucking BRILLIANT

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd.

But yo, some cats are kinda cool.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Random Garfield generator is great too

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

linkity

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like we got the Shit end of the stick in the Minor League rule 5 draft.

lost Alex Buchholz. Drafted Travis Mattair a shortstop from the Phillies org
feel free to look it up, it’s not pretty.

by Eastwindquinn on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

He was drafted high by Philly but retired-not-retired in 2010 and 2011 to play hoops for... Boise State.

You’re right. There are a lot of adjectives for this story. "Pretty’ isn’t one of ’em.

After missing more than a month with an oblique strain, Travis “Moose” Mattair found himself as the odd man out of the Class A Advanced Clearwater Threshers roster. Having lost his starting job to Jeremy Barnes, who has posted a .293 batting average since taking over for Mattair, the Washington state native was reassigned to the Class A Lakewood roster, where he became on of the club’s most popular players during his previous stint there.

The 6-foot-5-inch 230-pound Mattair batted .234 with 3 homeruns and 16 RBI in 21 April games as a member of the Threshers.

Originally a 2nd round draft selection by the Phillies in 2007, Mattair was a member of the BlueClaws team that won the first of two straight South Atlantic League titles in 2009. After that, Mattair was placed on the retired list in order to try his dream of playing Division 1 college basketball. By late summer last year, Mattair got the itch for baseball and chose to return to the Phillies organization rather than becoming the last man on the Boise State roster as a 22-year-old freshman.

Now back in Lakewood, Moose took time to chat with PhoulBallz.com’s and PhilliesNation’s Jay Floyd about his return to the Jersey shore, being a leader, his future and more. Check out the media player below to listen to the full interview.

They say he’s called ‘Moose.’ …I bet more than a few call him ‘Favre’ or ‘Jordan.’

From http://www.phoulballz.com/

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still wondering who it was the Reds wanted

Teh Fay confirms that they were hoping to draft someone, but he was taken by the time their turn came around.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

the list

of players taken before the Reds turn, via MLBTR:

Astros take Rhiner Cruz from Mets.
Twins take Terry Doyle from White Sox.
Mariners take Lucas Luetge from Brewers.
Orioles take Ryan Flaherty from Cubs.
Royals take Cesar Cabral from Red Sox; traded to Yankees for cash.
Cubs take Lendy Castillo from Phillies.
Padres
Pirates take Gustavo Nunez from Tigers.

A lot of those names were on the Bucs Dugout list. I think the only name that was on tl;dr’s list is Cesar Cabral. The Royals took him, and traded him to the Yanks for cash. Seems like if the Reds really wanted him, they could have gotten him. So maybe he’s not the one they wanted.

Flaherty and Nunez are the only non-pitchers; they are both IFers. I gotta think the Reds wanted a pitcher. I just don’t see any room on the roster for a position player.

Marwin Gonzalez, who some thought was the Reds’ target, was still on the board when the Reds’ turn came around, and they didn’t pick him. I guess they’re content to just have Janish brush up on his Spanish. Gonzalez was taken by the Red Sox with the 23rd pick, and traded to the Astros.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the Reds now undoubtly have the best first baseman in the league.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

until today's scenario plays out again in 2 years.

/ducks

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by chesirecat on Dec 8, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

no day but today!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Walt looks to be securing his

pager and Palm Tunsten E2 before catching his flight back to Lunken.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Sweet Jesus god, Foxx's 1932 was ridiculous.....10.7 WAR

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And it's only the 40th best single season all time?

This is a fun list….Robin Yount had 11.5 in ’82, wow.

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, not even close

Old Hoss himself holds the crown

The best in the “Modern era” looks likes Babe in 1923

by DerekH91 on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Walter Johnson was good.

36 starts, plus 12 relief appearances, all with an ERA of 1.14? with a 13.8 WAR?

Dead Walter Johnson is probably better than half our staff. Sign him, Walt.

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by bbjones on Dec 8, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

BRAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Bonds in '01 is 7th, with 12.5

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Steroids or not

i still think it is incredible that he had multiple seasons where he got on base more than 50% of the time. Baseball has always been a game where generally regardless of the situation the pitcher had the advantage, and the most likely outcome was the hitter made an out. Not true when Bonds came to the plate. Even with steroids that still takes a tremendous amount of skill.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

but he also didn’t swing at many bad pitches, so he forced a lot of walks as well.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're at to plate hit and no one is throwing you hittable pitches..

..that’s not really patience.

That’s just killing time.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This should be the site's motto

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a great idea!

We could have a poll and vote on it!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

because a guy named Juan Francisco

does ink drawings of naked hipster girls with a Bic pen.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

picture description says this:
480 × 317 – Juan Francisco Casas uses nothing but ballpoint pens to create his …

by 'tHan on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Because it's the better alterbative

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That last chart should scare the hell out of Angels fans

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

From wikipedia

“Foxx’s skills diminished significantly after 1941. Some sources attribute this to a drinking problem, while others attribute it to a sinus condition.”

So, as long as Pujols can stay away from the booze and blow…

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by Slyde on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Walter Harvey: Let me be blunt. Are you still a fall-down drunk?

Jimmy Dugan: Well, that is blunt. Ahem. No sir, I’ve, uh, quit drinking.
Walter Harvey: You’ve seen the error of your ways.
Jimmy Dugan: No, I just can’t afford it.
/giggles

by ken on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

holy shit

I remembered the password

Walt’s inactivity helped me focus!

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by obc2 on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Damnit Walt!

See what you’ve done?

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by Slyde on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

People realized it is stupid?

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Aaah the constipated internet....

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

is that Jackie chan?

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by obc2 on Dec 8, 2011 3:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The hot one or the fishy one?

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuni to Seabass

not sure if that’s an upgrade or a downgrade

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by -ManBearPig on Dec 8, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's an upgrade

I hope Yuni isn’t our future veteran SS.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

OH. MY. GOD.

I didn’t even think of that horrifying scenario.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 8, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Me either. Uh oh.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We've done worse

IMO

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, he's really, really bad.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

let's not kid ourselves.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

sonofa....

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by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Mazel tov!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 8, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This is rich
With that said, the Brewers have already paid K-Rod $4 million to go away at one point this offseason. It’s possible the Brewers rejected his ridiculously overpriced $17.5 million club option for 2012, and in the long run will actually end up paying him more than if they’d just accepted it.

[via BrewCrewBall]

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by -ManBearPig on Dec 8, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

This is poor

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by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That looks like an Olan Mills backdrop and a posed picture.

I’m going to hell.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget the solo cups for beer pong

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by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

the olsen twins

the early years

Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."

by dunnateher on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That is absolutely completely hilarious

And just the fact he’s gonna get $13 million from arbitration. I mean that’s just so funny. Terrifying but also funny.

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

So this exists

420 Appliance Repair.

We provide our customers with same-day appliance repair service, 24/7 and 365 days a year. We provide appliance repair service for all of Cincinnati and Northern Ky.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

oh...oh god...i think i'm gunna puke

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

poor kid with that haircut

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i like how he owns it.

like he looks so fucking proud of himself.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He tried

but you can’t hold that in…..

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite part

is that he’s just standing there, crossing his arms like he’s fuckin’ Suge Knight.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe he's from Philadelphia...

who’s gonna mess with him when he’ll respond with puking on you?

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's called 'puke-fucking the bulldog.'

And eating it.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That has to be the mother of all gifs.

when everybody is around and we're swinging for long bombs away, how do we come around to know - man, this really is what it's for?

by DannyGraves on Dec 8, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Who among us hasn't been there?

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by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, they're "reporting it," are they?

Just kidding. I actually wouldn’t hate this. He can actually hit. And even though he sucks at SS, anyone we get is going to. Of all the shitty options, he’s probably one of the least shitty.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Dusty would give him 60% playing time at least

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, he can't hit

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

For a backup SS, he can

I mean, he won’t be used like one, but he still gets on base at a decent clip

by DerekH91 on Dec 8, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

.320 is only decent in our minds because we've become accustomed to pure crap from the SS position

Also, he’s not good at all defensively – remember that video devoted to his fielding gaffes?

Guessing game! Who had a higher OPS+ over the last two years: Theriot or Yuni?

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, this is why you don't quote MLBTR

Who really reported that is Jon Heyman, who is about as reliable as my dead grandma’s Heyman.

He didn’t even say the Reds were interested. He said they may be interested.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, damn dude

I figured you would hear the tongue in my cheek in that comment. I’m disappointed in you.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 8, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, there's no one more sincere than Charlie Scrabbles!

/cue overture from Music Man

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

tom brady sux

Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."

by dunnateher on Dec 9, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

it is funny because it is so cheerful and surrounded by candy.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

that nobody unwrapped

choking hazard!

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 8, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sheldon'd

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I would LOVE some tangerine chicken.

This is not tangerine chicken.

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by bbjones on Dec 8, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

surprisingly wise choice

we should hang out and eat orange chicken.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

'tHan would rather die

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by jch24 on Dec 9, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

clockwork orange?

Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."

by dunnateher on Dec 9, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing for last night of Community?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

ie

’tHan watches big bang high.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

now Madoff made off with all the money

And all his clients are down to skunk weed…

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I forgot to Pick Them

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the sb nation mobile site is much better than mobile rr

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by obc2 on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

So... apparently, my idea in the fanpost was stupid...

I’ll bring it over here just in case. Word is that the Marlins wanted Pujols and don’t want Fielder because they are looking to draw Latin crowds (in southern Florida, that would be a high % Cuban). Does anyone think there’s a potential deal where Chapman and/or Alonso could be traded to the Marlins? Obviously, Hanley Ramirez seems like the obvious get, but is there anyone else (MLB-ready or A-level prospects) that we could pursue?

Or am I just daydreaming?

by Nasty N8 on Dec 8, 2011 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

LoMo would look fine in LF to me

Josh Johnson is a bonafide ace when healthy. Ricky Nolasco would be cool with me too. Anibal Sanchez would rock. Hanley Ramirez would be great, but tough to work out.

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by kcgard2 on Dec 8, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

love the Pujols move btw

obviously being out of our division and out of our league is great. Also, another big market club has their 1B locked up when Votto hits the FA market.

by cokane on Dec 8, 2011 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Please, Fangraphs...

On your GB/LD/FB chart, please color the letters in the same color as the line. I am always confused.

Tonight I figured out that GRound balls are GReen, and scorching line drives are red. Still, a little cue wouldn’t hurt.

Also, I figured out that Kevin Slowey, though he was had for cheap, would be a bad fit for GABP.

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by bbjones on Dec 8, 2011 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

I discovered this too

extreme flyball pitcher

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You had to "discover" that Kevin Slowey isn't someone we should pursue?

My motto is if he pitches for the Twins, I pretty much don’t want him.

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by kcgard2 on Dec 10, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

he was quite the prospect coming up

then I stopped paying attention to him.

He had bad luck last year. If his FB and GB were reversed (thanks fangraphs!), he’d be very interesting in return for a PTBNL.

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by bbjones on Dec 10, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Thoughts on the Winter Meetings

The Reds are in better position today than they were this time last week because
1. Cards are weaker – Pujols out of the division and with Pujols and TLR gone they are clearly leaderless. Next in line for team leader is Capt. WLB Mr. Carpenter…..hahahahaha
2. Brewers made a ~12 million dollar mistake and Fielder is likely gone. I am amazed by by that arb offer. You just gambled 15% of your overall 2011 payroll on a compensation pick, REALLY? For a set-up man?!? This is beyond incompetent. I would be absolutely furious if I were a Brewers fan.
3. Cubs suck and are also likely losing there best player.
4. To Slyde’s point – we didn’t do anything stupid

I think this combination of fail by our division rivals means that this is the Reds window for a WS win. Walt realizes this and will make at least 3 moves in the next 2 months, trade for a SP, obtain an OF, and obtain a closer.

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Tough job

Walt also said that the offers coming in had been unreasonable. No surprise. The FA market is skewing the trade market. Would you trade for Shields if TB was also asking for Cueto or Chapman—or both?

I’m not sold that SP is the problem. I see Cueto, Leake, Arroyo, Bailey, Chapman, Wood. I see a group ready to step up. I’d prefer a right handed power hitter in the OF.

I have to say I’d love some Adam Jones. I’d give up Alonso, Stubbs and a lesser prospect to get him. Put Heisey in LF.

by jamesp50014 on Dec 9, 2011 4:03 AM EST reply actions  

Chris Heisey's the better comp.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 9, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

but still, no.

I’d like Markakis and Hardy. The Orioles can keep anyone else, thank you very much.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 9, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you.

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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 9, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

oh man,

I forgot CHUH CHUH

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 9, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

This inspired one of the funniest threads in RR history

Prepare to be supremely confused, recent RRs.

thread 1 thread 2 thread 3

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by BK on Dec 12, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

rly?

Jones has the average in:
AVG
SLG
K% (by a goddamn landslide)

and Jones is trending upwards in wOBA while Stubbs is trending down. Jones is also younger than Stubbs.

Aside from 2008, Jones has OPS’d in the neighborhood we want to see from Stubbs that he teased us with in 2010, but who knows if that’s really him?

Adam Jones is better than Drew Stubbs. Jones would completely distance himself from this conversation if he could just learn to talk a goddamn walk.

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 9, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

!

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by -ManBearPig on Dec 9, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

that's fine

you shouldn’t, b/c you’re wrong when it comes to Stubbs v. BJ Upton

If this was the Supreme Court, they would rule in my favor

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 10, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Does defense not matter in CF either?

cuz Stubbs is way better defender. I was just mulling over the idea of Stubbs for Jones straight up. Would I do it? It’s a really really hard choice but I think I would.

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by kcgard2 on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Defense matters in CF

and Stubbs is better than BJ Upton IMO

However, offensively Stubbs needs to vastly improve. In terms of overall players, Upton > Stubbs.

If I were either team, I’d rather have Jones, and that has nothing to do with my feelings for Stubbs either way, b/c Stubbs strikes out a ton, and Jones doesn’t walk enough, but he doesn’t strikeout, but they both have their warts.

Jones just has less warts, and will get paid accordingly

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 10, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This trade is insane

are you an Orioles fan?

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by kcgard2 on Dec 10, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

That group is "ready to step up"

OK, Cueto stepped up (in a partial season). Leake doesn’t have a huge step forward in him but he’s fine. If by step up you mean actually walk out onto the mound, then yes Arroyo will step up. This will be the 5th straight year Bailey was supposed to step up, hasn’t happened yet. Chapman, well nobody even knows what to think about Chapman for 2012. Wood could step up and be a serviceable 5th starter or even a 4th; not good enough.

You like that rotation in the playoffs (assuming it gets us there)? This whole post is full of crazy.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh. Soooooo this happened.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 9, 2011 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

gangster

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 9, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is Ellen Page wearing a Reds hat?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 9, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

shit, at this point I hope he buys the team.

That banana stand would have some money!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 9, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But, there's always money in the banana stand!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 9, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

My 12 year-old daughter

hates the Biebs. It makes me so proud.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 9, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

You are a good father

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 10, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been away from here since the season ended

This thread made me full of joy

I'm ready to face any challenges that may be foolish enough to face me

by mrsmith35sg on Dec 9, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

hehe

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Moore

Rays lock up Moore 5 years 14 million plus 3 options could bring the total to 37.5 million. The move might lead to Moore starting the season in Tampa instead of AAA perhaps leading to the trade of a SP.

Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."

by dunnateher on Dec 9, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

not as sexy as Longo's

but wow, c’mon walt get Shields

Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."

by dunnateher on Dec 9, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

They're doing it from the inside!!!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They had better not have quoted me and made it seem like I was serious

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 10, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

18 greens in one thread

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 9, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

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