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Winter Meetings Day Three Open Thread

This thread has nothing to do with Aroldis Chapman.

Yesterday was a fairly quiet day for the Reds, though the rest of baseball was busy gettin' busy. A number of trades went down, with Angel Pagan going to San Francisco in exchange for Andres Torres and Ramon Ramirez and Sergio Santos going from the South Side of Chicago to Toronto. Albert Pujols is reportedly mulling three different $200+ mil offers. We'll update the front page if any thing big happens with the Reds.

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We've tossed around the idea of AJ Burnett before

He’s owed $33M for the next two years. NYY is offering to eat $8M and I suspect a bit more. If they pay half, is he worth $16M for two years?

Just looked back at his numbers for the past two years. Man, he’s been bad.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Does he still have the fastball? At $8 mil/yr I'd give him a run

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh lord, I'd be so happy

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be the best xmas present like ever

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 7, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You get back in that box!

With a knuckler’s HR problems, I’d pass.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm

Now I want to get Gonzalez just to call him Neo Gio.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 7, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Wouldn't you rather the team here in DC got him?

That allows for a nickname seems more up your alley.

by the finest muffins on Dec 7, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

omg

It’s a ghost!

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

man....

how expensive was THAT gaming system?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 7, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hanigan would have to catch him.

Mesoraco’s had a problem with passed balls anyway. Wakefield could be a disaster for him to catch.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 7, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know about that

Burnett’s K/BB numbers look an awful lot like Gio Gonzalez. SIERA and xFIP like Burnett much more than Arroyo. fWAR thinks Burnett was nearly three wins better than Arroyo last season, for what that’s worth. If the Yanks are willing to do a straight up contract swap, I’m all for it. I think Burnett will be better than Arroyo, and with the change of scenery, he might be loads better.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 7, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't see the Yanks being willing to do that

I don’t think they want any part of Arroyo.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

You're probably right

but if they are really fed up with Burnett, they might take whatever they can get for him.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 7, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Burnett's had a real problem keeping the ball in the yard for two years, and all of his walks means that his K/BB rate is about the same as Arroyo's

So I guess it comes down to (1) whether his HR problem is permanent or whether it can be fixed (head problems, New Stadium issues), and (2) how much we expect Arroyo to bounce back (and the HR rate to drop). I don’t have a good feeling about either, so I’m inclined to stick with the devil I know. Who happens to be cheaper.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this where I mention that Bill James predicts that Jair Jurrjens will have a better xFIP in 2012 than Gio Gonzalez?

I don’t wanna work, I wanna bang on the drum all day…..

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

x

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 7, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

In how mnay fewer innings though?

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 7, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

28 fewer innings, 209 to 181

10-10 record for JJ, 11-13 record for GG.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim McCarver just won the Frick award

The fuck is wrong with MLB?

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

Fuck you, Tim McCarver!

Fuck you right in your pussyhole!

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 7, 2011 1:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

republicans

They only know how to deal in self-interest.

by Eastwindquinn on Dec 7, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, maybe this willget people to stop referring to recipients of the Frick award as "Hall of Famers"

When you consider that:

a. They have to pick someone every year

There are very few people who actually have the job of MLB announcer and

c. They are only going to give it to someone who has decades of work under their belt

It’s kind of surprising he hadn’t won it already.

They pretty much got the true legends out of the way by 1989, when Harry Caray won it (the first recipients were Mel Allen and Red Barber in 1978). They really shouldn’t be giving it out every year, if they want it to have any meaning beyond “guy who got dream job and managed to work 30 years without saying ‘fuck’ on the air”.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 7, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Goddammit

I guess I should number my lists 1,2,3 rather than a,b,c

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 7, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

how often does Marty say "fuck" off air?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 7, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Send out the Slyde signal

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 7, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll let you guess

But fact is, he said it on air (kinda) in spring training of 2003 I think.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

According to my work computer...

There was a fanpost about this a few months ago.

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, different occasion

Marty & Joe were doing their “read emails from people” bit and read a very strange email from some guy in Germany (if memory serves) right as the inning ended. The board op forgot to turn the mics down when they went to commercial and you could hear Marty say “Can you fucking believe that crazy sonofabitch?”. It was pretty damned funny.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

he also let out a cough button tirade in like April or May of 2008

that was awesome.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 7, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this

if there are years were players have not gone in, it should be the same for announcers.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 7, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This is really well-stated.

It should have been a FanShot™ .

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I finally clicked

on this link on the sidebar at MLBTR. It’s about how the Rays compete in the big money AL East with a small budget.

Their secret: early extensions. They offer extensions to homegrown players they think will be good very early. Evan Longoria was signed to a six year deal (with three more team option years) when he had only 17 plate appearances.

Of course this is risky. They say they look at more than just performance on the field. They look for guys who are dedicated and work hard – and who they think will keep working hard even after signing for millions.

The Reds probably waited too long with Votto. Once the guy is the league MVP, he’s probably not going to agree to Longoria-like deal.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

The secret is drafting well

If you don’t do that, the extensions don’t make any sense.

If Votto sincerely wasn’t sure where he wants to be in X years, I don’t think he would’ve agreed to an extension before 2010.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he might have

Signing a big contract early would give him the freedom to be where he wants in X years. Even if he quit after a few years, he’d still have enough money to live well, as long as he didn’t blow it all booze, broads, and blow. Seventeen PAs into your big league career, you have no clue whether you’ll stick, let alone stay healthy enough to cash in once you reach your arb or free agent years.

Of course, that might not worked out. The pressure of a big contract might have made his depression problem worse. Still…I think the Reds need to be more aggressive on the extension front. Joey’s contract really didn’t do much for the Reds.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with your last point

From both the team’s and Joey’s perspective, an extension around 2009 was probably a bad idea because of the depression issues. Votto wouldn’t be the first guy to feel anxiety over a big contract. Just bad timing.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

3000

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

Andre?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

x

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 7, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

MST3k will always get a rec'd from me

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Hrm.

Marlins may have to trade Hanley and the Reds may not be able to get Phillips signed to a reasonable extension.

Think the Fish would swap us? They could use a 2B…

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

but what would we do about 2B?

Put Cozart there?

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Might as well.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 7, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's move

Henley to 2B when he gets here, it seems like he’s a real team player. He wouldn’t have a problem with it.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The end of the innocence...

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

damn you.....

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously,

I always call this fucking guy, Henley. What kind of name is Hanley.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, in that case

He must Die!!!

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 7, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

All he wants to do is dance!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Or Frazier.

Or both of them and Cairo.

Thats quite a team of Latino stars though. Hanley, Cueto, END, Yonder, Aroldis, Volquez.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

We have more Cubans in our organization

than Cohiba.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Esta es racista!

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a loose definition of stars

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 7, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

/RavenRiley'd

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Pads got Street

Which I guess means we didn’t.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Street and Latos to the Reds!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow the Pads must have really wanted an expensive overpaid closer.

They are picking up his only contract, but they only have to give a PTBNL.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 7, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

finally.

Finally we know what Walt’s been up to since Sunday.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I can't believe I clicked on that link.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Dec 7, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Great song

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's pretty good.

But Bill James says this song is going to be better in 2012.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

They can be vindictive little minxes when cut with their own sword, can't they?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you can TEACH me?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not what yo momma said when she taught me the language of love

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That makes no sense

My mom doesn’t even speak French.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jason Mraz is gonna sue the shit out of him

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't copyright chord progressions.

But you’re right, that’s totally the vibe.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

P.S. Thanks asshole.

Now I’m going to have Bieberjam stuck in my head all afternoon.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

P.P.S.

I totally Should Have Listened to ’tHan™.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Here

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

eh.

Same voice, better boobs.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

No way. In her prime, that girl could sing.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt, and smoking hot

Here’s a better version.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Yankees

were the team that bid on Hiroyuki Nakajima. Or one team, anyway. They want to use him as a utility infielder.

Boy, that seems weird. Unless the Lions accepted a bid of $.50 and a bucket of Double Bubble, that seems like a lot of money to pay for a backup SS.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

He doesn't have the bat for that

Though maybe Nakajima does.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

x

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

pshaw, like I went to college

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he meant that those were the students that you'd loaned money to

They haven’t paid it back, and now they’ve got to earn it back somehow.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we're talkin'

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

are you saying yes to A-Rod?

or the darkest one in the back?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 7, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hot

That’s the photo of Renteria that should be tattooed on ‘creds’ scrotum.

Alex Gonzalez is the best looking one, though. (That’s the other Alex Gonzalez, not Sea Bass.)

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't know Kal Penn played baseball

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 7, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Beat me to it

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

who is that IRL again, on the far right?

It’s clearly not Nomar…

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 7, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

They got plenty of offense and he's a sunk cost

It’s too bad he can’t be a leader while playing another position.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that did not stop them from starting jorge posada

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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Posada has more power than Jeter

Even now, at age 40, he has more power than Jete.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

that did not stop them from starting jorge posada

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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Yankees bid $2 million

and were apparently the only bidder.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at his numbers, he seems like a pretty solid player

I wonder how his defense is. I’m a little surprised he didn’t draw more interest.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe other teams were scared off

After Kaz revealed that they don’t teach you to field ground balls in Japan.

The Yanks are doubtless hoping his bat will translate, but I dunno. Aside from Godzilla and Ichiro, Japanese hitters have been pretty underwhelming.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Iguchi, Iwamura, and others didn't seem to have a problem fielding ground balls

I’m sure it would’ve been different under the bright lights in New York. ; )

Power doesn’t translate well from NPB to MLB, but most of the Japanese players have gotten on base at an acceptable rate. Fukudome is a good illustration of that. And even so, he’s still generated about 9 WAR in four years. Not an all-star but at least an average player.

The biggest problem is that most of the players arrive here when they’re past their prime, or at least past the point where they’re able to adjust to a different game. I’d like to see how their HS stars would do if they came over to the US to play college or in the minors first. Will probably never happen, though.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Hideki Matsui is the only Japanese transplant who had decent MLB power

are the fences shallower or something?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 7, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I gather

the ballparks are smaller.

And the pitching is different. Even Hideki struggled his first year. They called him “groundzilla,” because he hit so many groundballs. He wasn’t used to the spin US pitchers put on the ball.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They say that Japanese pitchers don't throw two-seamers

or at least that was the rumor from 5 or 6 years ago. It seems crazy that some Japanese pitchers wouldn’t have picked it up by now.

Also, the ballparks are way smaller.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 7, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You trade control for movement when you go from 4-seamer to 2-seamer.

That may be flatly against some organizations’ pitching policies over there. It can get weird.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 2:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

they weren't great fielders

The specific issue with Kaz was that he had been taught in Japan to not field balls backhanded. Instead, he’d run around the ball. Real men don’t field groundballs backhanded in Japan.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the backhanded thing was overstated

He just wasn’t as good as the Mets thought he would be. He turned out to be a decent 2B, defensively and offensively, once he left Flushing.

Iwamura and Iguchi might not have been gold glovers, but they were fine. The bigger issue is that they’ve all come over in their late 20s, which as you’ve pointed out is well past the defensive prime for a middle infielder.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

so

is the “fielding groundballs backhanded is unmanly in Japan” thing untrue?

I hope so, because it’s likely to be a bigger problem at SS than at 2B or 3B.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if it's untrue

I found this article where Matsui clarifies that it’s more likely to be considered sloppy than unmanly.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

It says Matsui said it’s considered “sloppy,” but former major league and Japanese league outfielder Warren Cromartie said it’s “less than manly.”

The reason doesn’t really matter, though. Matsui did try to field backhanded more, but after doing it all your life one way, it’s kind of hard to change.

I guess I’ll get to see for myself. Assuming the Yanks reach a deal, which I assume they will.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

here's another article

About The disappointing defense of Tsuyoshi Nishioka (complete with video).

For those who follow the Twins regularly, you may have noticed Nishioka’s propensity to maneuver his body behind the ball on plays towards the third base hole instead of backhanding the grounder like the majority of shortstops do. It is not so much his failure to do so but rather the method in which players in Japan are taught to field the ball. Reporter Naofumi Murakami explains why:

"In Japan, it’s typical to catch a grounder facing front toward the incoming ball. There is more focus on the stability gained from not using the back of the hand to catch the ball. But in the major leagues, the backhand catch—in which the shortstop grab grounders to their right side with one hand by stretching out their arm with the glove—is mainstream. There is a risk of the ball bouncing off the glove, but the shortstop can get into a position of throwing the ball faster because of the lack of unnecessary moves."

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

hah

Emma is a Yankees blogger and sports writer. I wouldn’t call her famous.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a ridiculous comment, but he gets so many of that variety.

He gives an awful lot of his time to fan questions, most of which are purely speculative and pie in the sky. Yet he answers them.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm on Twitter, but I just took a look at his page.

He’s getting kind of quippy, that John Fay!

johnfayman RT @K_Gron @johnfayman is today the day the Reds aquire the pitcher they are looking for?//it’s the first day of the rest of the meetings
johnfayman RT @The_Vole @johnfayman you didn’t answer the question. Are you, in fact, high?//actually, I’m a little low today

by the finest muffins on Dec 7, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably the Arabian Goggles you're wearing

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

3 goggles?

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. yes you do

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

twice today, too

i feel a third time coming on. i just hope i can make it home first.

by Heeringa on Dec 7, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a beautiful day.

Something grand is going to happen.

by crolfer on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

Her name is Rose

Don’t be calling her “it”!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It puts the lotion in the basket!

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

heheh

Maybe someday crolf will here those magic words – “I want you to draw me like your French girls. Wearing this…Wearing only this.”

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

so much better, well done

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

#spreadingboard

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 7, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

#spreadingboard

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 7, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is beyond epic

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by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure i like fya's idea
Did hear the #Reds talked to Dmitri Young. I’d take a flyer on him. Dude can hit. And at 230 pounds, he can probably play LF

by 'tHan on Dec 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Just keep him away from the Delorean

Can’t risk inputting the incorrect year.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFY ala the Fye:

Just keep him form the Delorean

Cant risk putting the in incorrecty ear.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

FALCOR!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

this is better

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I love Dmitri

but they’d be verifiably insane to give him anything other than a minor league deal.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 7, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Dmitri irrationally.

Let’s bring the big man on board, and if he can’t hit in Glendale, give him the 3rd base coach’s job when Mark Berry is inexplicably struck by a mysterious car in the parking lot.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Hhhhmmmm

This is an interesting way to praise the lord.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

I think most people would probably yell "hallelujah!" at climax.

I think i’d go with “Be gone Demon!” as it’s more dramatic.

Dirt Bikes!

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

That would be fucking hysterical

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Pshaw...like you've never done that

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I have not done THAT, but I have orgasmed in a church

During the Christmas show IIRC. I had help.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, she ended up not being in that group

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on Eileen

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose

White Christmas is a little too obvious.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 7, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

iiiiiiii'm dreeeeaming of a whiiiiitee -- How am I supposed to get this out of my hair???

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Deck the Halls

with boughs of splooge.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

the second part of that had me giggling

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you say it had you

Handeling your messiah?

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Walking in a Winter Wonderland

of semen.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It Came Upon a Midnight Clear

in a very angry way.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Linus and Lucy

Get fucked by Snoopy

(they can’t all be winners)

by DerekH91 on Dec 7, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Snoopy's the winner in that deal

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hark, the Herald Angles

Busted A Load.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw free tits by telling them

Its Christmas day, its Christmas day!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Belly MySkettYoMama's the Hawaiian way...

…to spray Merry Christmas on you.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

well

The church’s motto is “come as you are.” What did they expect?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Come as you are

not come where you are

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 7, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This has the potential to be one of those all time classic threads

it’s only 1pm EST time people, there’s plenty of day left

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by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Spooge jokes are so much more fun

than finding out we signed Miguel Tejada and traded Yonder for Jake Peavy.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

ha ha ha .... wait, what?

runs off to MLBTradeRumors in a panic

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy meta

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the circle of life

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Volquez , Homer, and Alonso for CarGo, let's do this thing

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Regulators!

Mount up!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 7, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Seth Smith fo shizz

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Ergh

Now that I think about it, Dusty would never utilize the platoon effectively. Fuckerdoodles.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he draw pretty pictures?

Nah, Fuckerdoodles.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fingercuffs!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Always been a fan.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

in terms of kevin smith female roles .... i'll take her over every thing else

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Comment deleted in 3..2...1...

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

even over Shannon Dougherty?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

even Linda Fiorentino over shannon dougherty

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

But she bleeds!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

man i need to watch dogma again ....

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

also #1 Matthew Perry costar

sorry Friends cast

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably just me but for some reason I think of him as a Reds killer

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He's from KY originally I think, plus his first name is Edgar. Couldn't resist. :)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, he was from KY

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I'm so bored with these winter meetings.

I had such high hopes. Don’t let me down, Walt!

#It’sAllAboutMe

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

you're a douchemonster, douchemonster

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

holy crap

This is what you get when you google “douchemonster”.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 7, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

hang on a second

half naked women and jizz jokes … fire away
politics …. hell no

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

whoa, that's the closest I've ever come to a real simulpost

As I hit post, both mine and your pics showed up.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

which means you were first

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Bill.

Why’d you never return my calls?

That's what she said!

by Raven Riley on Dec 7, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

We could just do all three at once

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine was first, loser.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I like my pic better, so there

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

this thread just gets better by the minute ....

i honestly can’t leave

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

a highly witty person made that

Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.

by Yossarian22 on Dec 7, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Y'all know me

Know how I earn a livin’ I’ll catch this bird for you but it ain’t gonna be easy Bad fish Not like going down the pond chasin’ bluegills and tommycods This shark, swallow you whole Little shakin’ little tenderizin’ an’ down you go And we gotta do it quick that’ll bring back your tourists,put all your businesses on a payin’ basis But it’s not gonna be pleasant I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks chief I’ll find him for three but I’ll catch him and kill him for ten But you’ve gotta make up your minds If you want to stay alive then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don’t want no volunteers, I don’t want no mates there’s just too many captains on this island $10,000 for me by myself For that you get the head the tail the whole damn thing

by DerekH91 on Dec 7, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

typical

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, it's a gradual buildup

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Jocketty

is actually dead.

I want to hate Tim Tebow, but for some reason, I don't

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Man, the Pirates just signed Bedard for $4.5 mil

Wonder if Walt talked to him at all. He was actually semi-healthy last year

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 7, 2011 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't want to have to do this, but TRHNMAATTN

You earned it, Walt.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Pirates making big moves

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

get that baseball stuff outta here

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 7, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I get that one! Rec'd!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

HURLEY?!?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

WHY. SO. OBESE

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Dec 7, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

damn.

that’s not a bad deal at all.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty good deal really

i would take Bedard for $4.5M.

Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.

by Yossarian22 on Dec 7, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh...yeah.

WTF?

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

So phillies making a push for Gio

if they do land him, Cole Hamels anyone?

by vottomatic on Dec 7, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

not for us, no

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

his numbers would suck if he never faced the Reds.

a nice 58 tOPS+ against ’em

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 7, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

?

Go Colts Dammit!

by Ram27 on Dec 7, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The headline at MLBTR

is “Phillies out on Gio.”

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

who reported it?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, go look

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It was Knobler, MLBTR stole it

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I told you where I saw it

Which enabled you to go see for yourself. I think that’s more than enough, considering that a lot of people post rumors here with no source at all.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

But it's the principle of saying MLBTR, instead of saying the real author

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone understands that MLBTR is an aggregator

It’s just too much hassle to source everything they report separately. Not to mention a lot of their stuff is found on Twitter, and I don’t do Twitter.

If I was writing a term paper, fine. But I’m not gonna jump through those hoops to chatter about baseball on a blog that is not exactly known for its formality.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

People pass along unsubstantiated twitter rumors from unidentified accounts

and we are worrying about noting the original source of MLBTR reports? Too much.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 7, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Not about that

The role of MLBTR in the Twitter era is one point, the correct citation of MLBTR posts in a Reds’ blog thread is another.

by ken on Dec 7, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if you were responding to me...

but I was actually agreeing with you. I do not think it is important to cite the original source of MLBTR stories on this message board. If you name MLBTR as the place you read it, interested readers can check for the source if they are curious. My point was that we are debating sourcing of MLBTR yet no one bats an eye when completely fabricated stuff is posted from anonymous sources. Message boards are not dissertations, there is an inherent casualness that facilitates discourse, sexual boasting, prying into players’ private lives, etc.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 7, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say things are already that casual.

No different than posting rumors on here from some dude on twitter who claims to be in the front office.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 7, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

According to some women, so am I

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You are inside Johnny Smith?

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 7, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

But not long enough to brag about, really.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to cite my computer for obscenity

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

IDGI

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I was the one who kinda got this ball rolling a few days ago

by claiming that MLBTR was basically superfluous in the twitter age. Bubba, as you can imagine, disagreed.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Well, I also disagree

Out of sheer fucking spite. :)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

nice avatar, how long have you had it?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ever since your mom.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 7, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it wasn't you

You kinda got dragged into it. It was Slyde that got the ball rolling. He’s the one who doesn’t like people linking to MLBTR.

Sorry, Slyde, I love ya, but I’m not changing my ways when it comes to linking to MLBTR. If they were linkjacking, I would link to the original source rather than them, but they are doing real and useful work by aggregating, and I think it’s legit to link to them.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Again

It’s not the linking (which you never actually do), it’s the “reporting.” I know it’s just semantics, but they are not reporting. Saying they are reporting is giving them credit for work they didn’t do. They are repeating.

I’ve never denied that MLBTR is an aggregator. They just don’t deserve the credit to be called “reporters.”

Follow on Twitter: @jluckhaupt. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!

by Slyde on Dec 7, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I do so link

For instance, here.

I confess that I am posting links much less often these days. Between people griping about linking to the aggregator rather than the source, and people griping about links that open/don’t open in a new window, it’s not worth it. Let them Google it themselves.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 7, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Who the fuck are you callin' informal?!?

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The reason the Reds haven't made a move yet?

Walt’s sick. My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Walt pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been more than an hour, and no one has posted this?

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Dec 7, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

kinky

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually it was Hornberger...er, Danny Knobler that reported it

MLBTR just stole it

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It's being reported that KRod might accept arb at somewhere around 13 mil

That should be a bad thing for the Brewers, and put a damper on them having an impact FA signing.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 7, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

Good.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 7, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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Beat Reporters

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