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The week ahead: Winter meetings, ho!

With the MLB Winter Meetings kicking off today in Dallas and the potential awkwardness of trading players scheduled to appear at Redsfest avoided, this could be the week something happens. Maybe? The Reds are said to be hopeful that they can get something done this week on the pitching front, but John Fay's Enquirer coverage on Sunday was chock-full of highly-qualified and tentative remarks from both Jocketty and Baker.

So the Winter Meetings in sunny DallasFortWorthMegalopolis&CowboysParkingLot is the big item on the dance card this week. The Rule 5 Draft takes place Thursday, but if the Reds don't outright someone off their full 40-man roster by later today, they won't be taking anyone. I don't think they're too concerned about it. You shouldn't be either.

  • Monday: Winter Meetings begin at the Hilton Anatole, a luxury hotel somewhere in the Dallasland area and, I can only assume, named after the titular character in a series of children's books written by Eve Titus and illustrated by Paul Galdone. Anatole. Anatole, as you may already know, "is a mouse who lives in an un-named 'mouse village' outside the French city of Paris, commuting by bicycle who was foraging for food when he overheard some humans complaining about mice as villainous. Deeply aggrieved at the insult to his honor, Anatole resolved to do better" (Wikipedia).
  • Tuesday: Any Red Reporters in Dallas? It'd be nice to get someone on the scene to dish on whether the Reds have left their rooms. And, if so, whether it was for ice or ice AND mixers.
  • Wednesday: Winter Meetings continue. Midnight Wednesday is also the deadline for free agents to accept arbitration offers from their previous clubs. The Reds don't have any offers out. And with Ramon and CoCo in special Type B status, they didn't need to make any in order to get picks back.
  • Thursday: Winter Meetings conclude with the Rule 5 Draft. Like free agent arbitration (and possibly free agency altogether), the Reds aren't getting involved. Judging by this list - and the number of players they added to their 40-man roster last month - they probably won't lose anybody either.
  • Friday: Cool down from the Winter Meetings. Even if a big trade doesn't happen, it will have been an anxious week. Take a vacation. May I suggest Dallas? It's a major airline hub.
If you have anything to add to tthe calendar, and it's at all related to baseball, the Reds or baseball in the Cincinnati area, drop a line in the thread. We'll try to add it.

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Dang, the Marlins weren't kidding about making a splash this offseason!

I hope their fans get hooked, or they’re gonna freak out when they see the bill.

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Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

How are you single? You are clearly a catch.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 8:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

/pharcyde'd

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yo mama's got a pegleg with a kickstand

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Her middle name is mudbone but on top of all that...

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

If Magic Johnson has AIDS

then fuck it, I got herpes.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Sooooo...winter meetings, huh?

TRHNMAATTNO, so why spend the money to ship Walt and his uber-cool GM sunglasses down to Texas

It’s not like the market for Miguel Tejada is strong enough that Walt would have to sign him this week anyway.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

oh noes

I hope no one takes Mike Costanzo from us.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

we re-signed him

He’s ours! Unless he’s taken via Rule 5.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The Rule 5 thing has not changed right?

I can not see someone wanting Mike on their 25-man all year.

by Eastwindquinn on Dec 5, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I was not being serious

However, teams have taken free agents via Rule 5 before – guys they could have signed on the open market without having to keep them on the 25-man.

Victor Santos was taken via Rule 5 by the Pirates (the year before the Reds signed him). He’d been a free agent for years by then.

And the Baltimore Orioles were pissed off when the Yankees took Josh Phelps via Rule 5, just a month after they signed him.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

If Steinbrenner were still alive

I could see the Yankees taking a flyer on Costanzo

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

he looks exactly like how I expected him to look

he’s like Joey Votto’s stunt double.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

dallas is gawdawful

Just skip it

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Dec 5, 2011 10:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I agree

/shudder

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

worst places in america

Dallas
myrtle beach
newark airport
pigeon forge maain drag
branson mo
Gary Indiana

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Dec 5, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

The only thing worse than Newark Airport is the road that services the Airport

US 1 and 9 is the most convoluted and ill-planned road I’ve ever had the misfortune to travel on.

by FordhamRam on Dec 5, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I can verify Newark airport and Pigeon Forge

I would also add the entire state of Alabama.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually liked the Gulfport/Biloxi area, it wasn't terrible

You’re 1.5 hours away from New Orleans and 2 hours away from Pensacola, plus they have casinos.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

What are, a toddler? an hour or two away is nothing

Plus it has casinos, and less touristy trap stuff. More of a laid back setting. Of course, that was 16 years ago. Sweet Jesus I’m old.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

2 hours in 1995 is like 6 hours in 2011.

Inflation, dude.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ron Howard likes Gary, Indiana

Gary Gary Indiana

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

i'd like to add I-70 through Illinois to that list please

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I nominate I-80 in Pennsylvania

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This needs to include the southern half of Virginia

Fuck those people

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

North Carolina respectfully requests to be left out of the South.

Though the mouth breathers controlling the state legislature are trying their hardest to go full retard this bitch.

We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.

by chesirecat on Dec 5, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 5, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck you

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to say that JFK is much worse than Newark

Or maybe I was just cranky because JFK had shitty restaurants which sucks after a Transatlantic flight, and I spent 3 hours on the ground in a plane in a thunderstorm, and after the storm cleared we were like number 40 for take off.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 5, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

JFK looks like a mental institution

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Newark is actually a decent airport. It's the town itself that is terrible.

JFK is awful. Congested, takes forever to get there or get home from there, no matter where you live, bad restaurants, everything. We avoid it like the plague.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

EWR is also the only airport with direct train service to the city, a few years ago I spent $50 on a cab that took me from LaGuardia to Broadway.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 5, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That was not a wise move

You could’ve taken a bus and then transferred to the subway. Or a shuttle.

by ken on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Their international is pretty bleh

I remember being in Newark airport waiting for a flight and thinking that this is what it looks like when an empire crubmles.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

O'Hare's international terminal is awful

most of O’Hare is actually a decent airport (as far as passenger comforts not congestion), plenty of food options decent shops, not a terrible place to kill time between a flight. But the International Terminal has no restaurants on the gate side of security, and it is kinda far from the rest of the airport, so if you have a connection you really need at least 2 hours to have time to clear customs, and recheck your bag, and go through security, and get to your flight.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 5, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

US Worst Airports - that's I've flown through

IMO in order of attempting to make a fucking connection combined with enjoyable overall experience:
Atlanta
O’Hare
Newark
JFK

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 6, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Memphis is terrible, Hawaii was my favorite

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

err, Honolulu

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 7, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

never flown thru Memphis

Honolulu was awesome. Mostly open air, friendly people

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 7, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know the last time you were there, or what airline,

but their Continental terminal has been renovated and is pretty good. The rest of it sucks.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That applies to all of Texas, no?

(I’ve only been to San Antonio and Dallas-FW airport, but I stand by my statement)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

i might like galveston it has a beach

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Dec 5, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Austin is a solid city.

The rest…meh.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I took a trip to Big Bend NP once

It was outstanding. But El Paso was predictably a dump.

by ken on Dec 5, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

you've been to Big Bend? Luckyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I really want to spend like a month in West Texas at some point; Lubbock, El Paso, and Big Bend. then go up through NM; Truth or Consequences, Albuquerque, and the like.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

nice

I’d like to do something like this sometime.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it's the most remote national park, I believe

I’d love to set up shop in either the southwest or the northwest in a few decades.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I've only ever been to Dal/Ft Worth

Ive heard Austin and San Antonio are OK.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

San Antonio was surprisingly nice

Went last year because my wife had a convention there. Touristy but not unpleasant.

by ken on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Shudder'd

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I've had this argument before

but I like San Antonio a lot. But I was there in March, and you were there in the summer.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup, summer was absolutely brutal

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Laynce Nix

got a two-year deal from the Phillies.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

When was the last time he got more than a one year deal?

Was it with Cincinnati?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he's ever gotten a multiyear deal

The Reds signed him to two successive minor league contracts, not a multiyear deal.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

The Phillies beat writer can’t figure out why the Phillies want Laynce Nix.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

That's super dumb.

If I’m Walt I’m aggressively pursuing that.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's so weird

He didn’t have a great year last year, but he’s sort of their version of Jay Bruce (Not as much power, but better on base skills). And to be fair to us, we never sent Jay down.

by DerekH91 on Dec 5, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

And not in favor of Raul Ibanez either.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No decision is being made "in favor of Raul Ibañez"

that would be an affront to any and all living Phillies fans, besides being outright stupid for the organization.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 5, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That was before last year had come to its conclusion

now that last year actually happened, Ibanez is not going to keep a god-honest MLB player sitting in AAA. If they are sending Brown down to AAA it is either because of the arb clock or it’s because they don’t think he’s fully ready (or I suppose they are going to give Ibanez 25 games to prove he’s more than a pinch hitter before calling Brown up).

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 5, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

2 years seems unnecessary, but he has his uses

Defensively he’s a pretty good corner, and he played some first for Washington. So they gain some defensive versatility. And Mayberry outperformed last year.

by ken on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe the Veteran's Committee will announce today if it elected any of the "Golden Age" candidates

They met yesterday in Dallas. Santo will probably get in (finally, and unfortunately posthumously). Former Reds pitching coach Jim Kaat has an outside chance. I doubt Bill DeWitt, the Reds’ GM for the ’61 team, has any shot.

by ken on Dec 5, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

wow

I didn’t know Kitty Kaat used to be a Reds coach.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

With the rule 5 draft this week...

Does it affect what players can and can’t be moved in trades?

by badenjr on Dec 5, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

Not really

Rule 5 guys typically don’t have a ton of trade value to begin with.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Josh Hamilton'd

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 5, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

'xactly

The Cubs drafted him and we bought him for a little cash.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 5, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems to have an impact on roster flexibility though, right?

Most likely, the Reds would be on the end giving up the prospects, but suppose they got an offer they couldn’t refuse for Votto. In return they’d get three established players. Would the rules limiting movement on the roster for Rule 5 Draft purposes prevent a deal like that from going down until the draft were over?

by badenjr on Dec 5, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a good question. I don't know.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think so

The roster at the roster deadline is the roster that counts. Any moves made after that don’t count, at least as far as Rule 5 is concerned.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

My friend in the hackers group Anonymous got me a copy of Walt Jocketty's Google Calendar for the week:

Monday: Golf with possible trade candidates: Andrew Bailey, Corey Patterson, Jayson Werth
Tuesday: Cardinals Reunion! Will get to touch World Series trophy.
Wednesday: Cardinals Reunion After Part, cntd.
Thursday: Strategy Session with Jim Bowden
Friday: Poolside!

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 5, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

TRHNMAATTN is one of my favorite memes of recent vintage

but I’m pretty confident that at least one significant trade is going to happen this week.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 5, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Right.

Cain for Votto, duh Chumbles.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait

Are you predicting this because you think it will happen or because you want it to happen?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 5, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Both.

And neither.

See, if I blindly predict enough trades, one of them is bound to come true, and then I can reference that to fuel my rep as a fab prognosticator!

Seriously though, if the Reds got a decent prospect to go along with Cain I’d do it in a heartbeat, but I don’t think there’s a chance in hell it happens. If Sabean called Walt with that offer it would certainly make Walt’s butthole a bit tight.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

No way

Cain is a free agent after this season and isn’t as good a baseball player as Votto. He’s worth less than Shields.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 5, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sports Writer'd

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 5, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on both counts.

I cant remember Walt ever being this forthcoming about his trade plans.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Or Alonso

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

well yeah, we know he's been in trade talks.

I just wonder if this means Heisey’s been included, too.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh. Maybe.

If Alonso goes, the outfield depth is suddenly very thin. If anything, it tells me they still don’t trust Heisey to be the guy in LF.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

word.

It also tells me that they either don’t trust Sappelt or he’s in trade talks, too.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Or both.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Sappelt learn how to run the bases properly?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting...

Willingham looks to be starting his decline to me. I think I’d stay away. His BB% was lower last year and his K% was higher. He hit more homers, but his batting average fell. His SLG was pretty good, but his OBP was the lowest he’s had in recent years.

I did notice an interesting thing in looking at his stats on Fangraphs… His BB% has been about 4% higher against lefties vs. righties in each of the last 3 years. Has anyone looked into what makes up the platoon advantage? How much is OBP vs. SLG related? As player develop/decline do certain skills come/go first leading to them being more suited to a platoon role?

by badenjr on Dec 5, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, that could just be the Oakland factor

Shit, I bet for a 20 point bump for anyone leaving that stadium

by DerekH91 on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds conservative to me

double it

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by kcgard2 on Dec 5, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Willingham for this year only

But yeah, not interested in a 3 year deal.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill James' projections are dumb

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really not a fan of Heisey's .316 OBP in the lineup every day.

I’m not sure it washes out Willingham’s defense, but I don’t want to find out.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

To play the same game as Chuck

Bill James projected 2012 FIP

3.88
4.02

Which one would you prefer?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Jurrjens over Cueto, obvi.

That ship done sailed, hun!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, 3.88, it's lower.

Is this a reply to me? I don’t think Heisey’s gonna have a FIP as low as either of those.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, I put that comment there just to fuck with you

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course they are

but that’s not my point. My point is not that these guys are identical players, but that they are close enough that it makes sense to go with the one who will make a half mil next year rather than the one who will make eight mil.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 5, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

also, there's this bit of GM ignorance:

Apparently, teams are looking at Edgar Renteria as a utility man, capable of playing more than just SS.

Umm, really?

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

I saw that
Teams are looking at Edgar Renteria as a multi-position utility guy, including third base, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Renteria wants to play for a contender.

I guess they weren’t watching this season.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 5, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Ken Rosenthal is just full of shit

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

your face is Edgar's fault

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 5, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be...but I like to blame this on Rosenthal

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Walt does know these are the Winter "meetings"

and not the Winter “sit in the suite and do sudokus,” right?

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 5, 2011 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

He's playing Words With Friends

And just found out Votto isn’t a word

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 5, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

cunt and fag aren't either

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

queers is a valid word!

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by jch24 on Dec 5, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

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