SI's Sheehan: Reds will win the 2012 World Series
Sheehan predicts the Reds will top the Rangers in six games due to hot bats and a deep bullpen. Your thoughts?
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Next time I see Joe Sheehan I'll buy the first coupla rounds.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
Not sure if that blurb....
is more of a “whoever the NL champ is will beat the Rangers”, than an actual pick that the Reds are that team.
Nevertheless, I like the optimism!
by Howie Feltersnatch on Dec 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions
peanutbutter jelly time
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
What's the difference between jam and jelly?
by Howie Feltersnatch on Dec 29, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
I was going to say, I can’t jelly my d*** in your a$$
by Howie Feltersnatch on Dec 29, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know who (s)he is, but I love him(her)
If the Reds win the 2012 WS, I will…I don’t know. But I’ll do something to commemorate it!
If you're crolfer,
you celebrate by wearing only a sportcoat and tighty whities while drunkenly shoving veggie straws up your nose.
Oh wait. That’s what happens when the Reds lose.
Donald Duck'n it, brah
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Red Reporter: Donald Duck'n it, brah
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
The article has a paragraph devoted to the A's
Billy Beane has lost his edge hasn’t he? Not that I think he is a bad GM, but other GM’s in larger markets caught on the OBP and the other market inefficiencies Beane exploited 10 years ago, so he can’t get productive players for cheap like he use to.
Also any GM will look good if they hit the lottery and are in charge when three young aces hit the big league’s.
Wayne Krivksy would be a genius if Cueto, Volquez, and Bailey hit the ground in 2008 as top of the staff aces.
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The problem for Beane
is that the A’s are apparently just really poor. Whenever anyone gets good, they can’t afford to keep them around, so they trade them away for prospects, who in turn either don’t do much or become good enough that they trade them away…
It’s pretty pitiful. Does make you wonder what Beane could do with an actual major league budget, though.
Still not a candidate.
Oh yeah
I think Beane is a terrific GM, and he was really shrewd in the first half of the last decade, to win with his shoestring budget. But now that he has the same payroll constraints on other teams caught on to his success, and he can’t keep the stars he does develop, it is really hard for him to be successful.
What I like about the Reds is over the last decade they haven’t been active on the free agent market, but they have worked to retain the players they have. The Reds gave fair contract extensions to Adam Dunn, Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, Johnny Cueto, and Jay Bruce, so none of them left town the second they became free agents. I also believe the Reds will do everything they can, even if they do come up short, to keep Joey Votto in town.
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I have to agree with the Votto sentiment
they’re going to try their damnedest to keep him on the roster.
by Howie Feltersnatch on Dec 29, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
At the end of the day, Bobby C wants to do everything he can to win, while breaking even
that is really the most you can ask for out of an owner. He seems to really care about the product he puts on the field, and the GABP experience.
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Actually, due to baseball ownership being an equity business...
…I believe that a team should strive to spend about $10MM more than they can afford each year. When spent wisely, this money will make the team so much more competitive that the $10MM more than pays for itself on the back end when you sell the team. In the meanwhile, the team wins more. Literally a win-win.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 29, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
His big trades haven't worked out well lately
They’ve gotten marginal players for both Haren and Holliday.
He picked the wrong guy to extend in Chavez instead of Tejada.
Plus, they haven’t drafted and developed a good hitter since Swisher.
will moving to San Jose help them at all?
Or just make them that much more unlikable?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
I would love to see a good study on how new facilities help teams
They always say they need a new stadium when they cry poor, but I wonder what the true effect is.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 29, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Even if it boosts revenues (which doesn't always happen) you still have to do something with those revenues.
It’s tricky to tailor a park to a team, because you never know how the team’s identity will change.
It isn’t like in college football where you have new facilities with new equipment; I think the teams tend to have the same equipment across the league.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
If I were in charge
I would build my stadium to give pitchers a moderate advantage. Pitching is more expensive, more risky, and harder to come by than offense. I think a slight advantage will allow starting pitchers to go deeper into games, and be less wear and tear on my bullpen over 162 games.
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Chicks dig the long ball.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 29, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
my wife and I have argued on occasion
She thinks it’s ridiculous that baseball parks have different dimensions, whereas other sports have set dimensions for the playing fields. It’s an interesting angle that I hadn’t thought of before.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
i agree that it's ridiculous parks have different dimensions
baseball should have set dimensions for their fields.
especially considering the importance they put on records. all players should be competing on an even playing field
I think it is part of the charm.
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The eccentricities of the ballparks is one of my favorite parts of baseball
I wish there was actually more variety. The Cubs used to play in West Side Park, which at one point was over 500 ft to CF and under 250 ft to RF. That would be so bitchingly awesometits.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 29, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Stubbs would be the God of Centerfield there.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 29, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
This is the best argument in my corner here
I would buy season tickets and relocate to Cincy for the chance to watch a guy like him roam a centerfield like that.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 30, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it is fucking nuts.
As a players who’s run, full speed, blindly into shit, that pole is no bueno.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 29, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
it's truly amazing that no one has hit it running full speed and gotten injured yet
I know the hill plays into that, but still.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
actually i am more surprised the hill hasn't hurt anyone
it seems like it wouldn’t be hard for somebody to twist their ankle and either fuck up their ankle, or tear shit up in their knee.
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you know you want to see that happen though
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
Yeah, well, there are a lot of things we wanna see but we'll never get the cha.. wait.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 29, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha! Even playing field.
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
#SubscriptionRenewed
that’s why it’s hard to consider CFL vs. NFL records due to different field dimensions
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 30, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I always struggle with that.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 30, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Doug Flutie & Warren Moon
2 QBs off the top of my head that played some considerable ball in Canada. IMO, the different field sizes and the lack of league talent should skew and dilute stuff they did in the CFL.
And then you have guys like Rocket Ismail..
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 30, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 30, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'm being deposed in The Social Network?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 30, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
You're being something.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 30, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the word you're looking for is Awesome
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 1, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Soccer doesn't have set dimensions.
/dodges rotten fruit
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 29, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I see you fired up the BK signal
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Who would care?
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 31, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I see this is gonna become a thing in 2012..
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
The award winning lady sports writer who's name I can't think of wrote an article about new facilities
She said that new facilities, besides being a tax burden on the local citizens, usually charged more for non-premium tickets, and collected more revenue from luxury boxes and what not.
Look at all the premium seating at Great American Ballpark, it cost $250 to sit right behind home plate, that use to be a $20 blue ticket from the box, and there are several other premium sections, party decks, and the fuckin boat. So one would think they do collect greater revenue from a new ballpark, but I guess probably not enough to offset the cost of construction if they were financially responsible for the construction of the new stadium.
Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.
Stadium financing is soooo weird and shady, generally speaking
The wikipedia article on the new Brooklyn Nets stadium is great, and not just because it references a Brooklyn Dodgers domed stadium designed in part by Buckminster Fuller.
Stadiums often work as a regressive tax, just like a lottery. They put an substantial burden on residents and lower-class individuals and then award land to development corporations and financiers, often with tax breaks that simply do not exist for any other similar project. You kick people out and then take their land to get a stadium and a “stadium village” of some sort, but don’t allow them a sniff of the profits.
Of course, the other alternative is to build a stadium way out in the middle of nowhere, which can be decried for a whole bunch of other reasons.
If I somehow become a Pillar of Society and am building a stadium, I’ll give everyone who has to clear out of the area a corroborating share of the team. They’d get a dividend of some sort and shares could be traded/gifted/whatever. If someone can pick up enough shares, they can get on the board. It’d be neat mix of Lambeau, European soccer, and what is already being done.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
You have my vote for dictator
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 29, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
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"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Dec 29, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Dunzo.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 29, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Must be a tiny kingdom.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 29, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not to me bub.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 29, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
i never noticed before, but that just looks like the face of a burn victim.
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
Nice wagon.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 29, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
THEY SUCKED HIS BRAINS OUT
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 30, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
it's funny because it looks like a butthole
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
it's funny because you're quite certain about this.
Even enough to chime in as an expert on an internet site.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 31, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Moving to SJ will help a lot.
I live just north of SJ. Getting to Oakland from the Peninsula or even SJ is a disaster on a weeknight; I-880 is a parking lot. You’d have to leave work at 3 to pick up the family and make it in time for a 7pm game. Then you are in the most depressing stadium on Earth.
It’s easier from the East Bay and SF, because you can take BART, but the farther up there you go, the more you are in Giants country.
Simply making it more accessible will be a big help. I know if the A’s move to SJ we’ll go to a lot more games than we do now (which is 1 in the last 15 years).
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
My Uncle lives in San Jose
When I visited him several years back, and he was showing me a map of the Bay Area and all attractions, I asked him "Do you ever go to Oakland?’ his response was “Nope”
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
the thing about this article
is that he doesn’t really provide any analysis. He says we’ll ride the hot bats of two of our top 3 hitters, and we have a deep bullpen.
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
ha
yeah, I mean it’s certainly not a false statement. And it’s within the realm of possibility! Good on ya, Joe Sheehan
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
He doesn't mention Brandon Phillips..
..which won’t go unnoticed by some(one).
But my favorite thing is that Mesoraco gets as much run than the Cards, Yankees and Pujols combined.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 29, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
That's just crazy
No way the Rangers make it to a third consecutive Series
by poojols on Dec 29, 2011 6:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
they definitely have the talent and depth
especially if Darvish pans out
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
How long until they reach dynasty territory?
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If the Buffalo Bills were a dynasty, two more years
Josh Hamilton = Jim Kelly
by poojols on Dec 29, 2011 6:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Rangers are officially my thrid leat-favorite AL team, behind only the Yankees and Red Sox
Hating the Yankees is just a family tradition, and Red Sox fans just irritate the shit out of me.
The Rangers bother me because of the way they were able to spend like drunken sailors after driving themselves into bankruptcy. Compare the way MLB allowed the Rangers to spend with the way they restricted McCourt and the Dodgers, or the way they basically forced the idiots who own the Mets to sell off a big chuck of the team – something smells bad there.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 29, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And MLB moves the Astros to their division
Setting up a natural rivalry with an inferior organization and increasing television ratings.
by poojols on Dec 29, 2011 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe they should have moved the Brewers back where they belong!
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Yeah, but the Rangers didn't have McCourt as an owner
Ryan and Greenberg didn’t have any of the baggage McCourt or Wilpon had. And they just signed that ridiculous TV deal, so it’s not like they don’t have the money for all the spending.
The Rangers have benefitted tremendously from favorable treatment - both by MLB and others - for years
There is a guy sitting in a field level box at the Rangers games who is the closest thing this country has to royalty – and that has created a rather interesting advantage for them.
Marge Schott, Frank McCourt, the idiots who run the Mets (I cannot remember their names) – for various reasons, MLB has wanted them out of the little club, and done what they can to make it happen. I’m not necessarily opposed to that – these people are all assholes in their own ways and created their own problems. I have no sympathy for any of them.
But the Rangers various owners have been just as bad for a long time – and constantly get bailed out and helped. It started a long time ago with one of the most corrupt stadium deals of all time, and continued through a bankrupt team spending like they were the Yankees.
It is not really hard to draw a line between the sweetheart deals the Rangers benefit from and their connections to some pretty serious power. Now, that is how the world works – “who you know” can be a powerful tool, and the Rangers have exploited it well.
But seeing a team succeed in part because they have access to levers of power makes me dislike them. It is hard enough for the smaller revenue teams to compete without having a rich team act stupidly without being punished for it. Rich teams acting stupidly (see the Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, etc.) is a key to any smaller team competing. It just sucks that there is a team out there that seems to be inoculated against its own stupidity.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 29, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Chan-Ho Park is getting field-level seats now?!
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 29, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
This kind of reminds me of the whole Wall Street fiasco
Rich guys acted stupid and did whatever they wanted, made bad decisions, and got bailed out of it without punishment, then took our all-star centerfielder (whoops, got mixed up there).
#OccupyTexas
Most ironic part, “W” was right there in the middle of both cases!
Respect my authoritah!
by BigBadBruce on Dec 30, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so let me get this straight..
you’re blaming W for the current Wall Street fiasco?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 30, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
There was some de-regulation that occured under his administration, was there not?
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 31, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Bubba did his part.
I do not at all care for Dubya’s administration and for what it’s worth I’m pretty cool with Clinton’s eight years. But I can never let it go unstated that Bubba opened the deregulated floodgates.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 1, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
What do you mean by Texas getting constantly bailed out?
The prior owner, Tom Hicks, was the one that ran the club into financial trouble. MLB stepped in to prevent Hicks from doing anything stupid, but to my knowledge they didn’t bail out Texas. Hicks’ holding company filed for bankruptcy, which meant that a bankruptcy judge had to approve the sale of the club to the Ryan/Greenberg group. But companies file for bankruptcy all the time. It doesn’t make the Hicks group corrupt, and I don’t see how MLB bailed him out.
Did MLB bail out any of the pre-Hicks owner? I guess I don’t see why you resent them so much.
I think while in bankruptcy they used loans from the MLB to sign guys like Beltre
Other GMs were pissed. I think that’s what happened.
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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
that is curious
How can a team that was bankrupt spend so much?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Never before have so few with so little spent so much.
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
by boobs on Dec 29, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gotta spend money to make money!
In all honesty, they were probably given no-interest loans, and the folks they were indebted to (stadium, players) were called off. It’s probably not that tough if, as Beef says, MLB likes ya and will throw you a hand.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 29, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
"That's how us Texans do it."
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 29, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What a moron.
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
I thought it was strange that
His crystal ball didn’t reveal a little more about the 2012 World Series Champion Reds, including Carlos Quentin’s 5 WAR campaign in LF and nycredsfan’s avatar professing his manlove for Chris Carpenter.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 29, 2011 8:42 PM EST reply actions
I'mma smack you
And if Chris Carpenter is the best avi you can come up with, don’t bother making bets. You gots to get personally offensive with the avatar, dude.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
No dumbdick, I mean like giving 'creds his avatar
crolfer’s avi was a quickie because I was drunk and it was the easiest thing to do at the time.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
which one? 1, 2, or 3? I need to know what get's your crank turning.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
jch's mom jokes are a bannable offense
as per the aforementioned corollary of the RR charter.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 29, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I have until October to think of something good
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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 29, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
i've been thinking about this for a good couple of hours
i think based on this, MLB should declare the 2012 season a waste of time, because we all know what the result will be and award the Reds the 2012 title.
1994 was our year, sadly.
Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.
The Reds
will then be World Series Champions forever, when the world ends on December 21, 2012!
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by BubbaFan on Dec 30, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This reminds me of that great farm that my dog Ginger got to go run and play and chase chickens on when I was a kid.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 30, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I thought everyone always said 1994 was the Expos' year?
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
you are sorta becoming the new Johnu1!
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 30, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I wasn't gonna say this
I was just gonna think it
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
That's bullshit
Johnu was always trying to be the next Mads. He just never did it right. It’s a delicate trapeze act.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 30, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
/christ on a trapeze
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
by boobs on Dec 30, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If only johnu1 had been coached better by Mads...
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 30, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
this should be comment of the year
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 30, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am saddened that Johnu1 isn't here to defend himself (hehe)
God we could have had some fun with that shit…
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Dec 31, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I am available for coaching at 15% discount for all RRs. Christ on a Cracker - how can( YOUR NAME HERE) pass this up?
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
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