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Determined to prove the slogan wrong
the Reds proved they have a bit of money and are talking to some people. They signed former Yankee farm hand and Moeller grad Andrew Brackman to a split contract, which basically means he'll make more money if he makes the big league team and a bit less money if he plays in Louisville.

I really like this move for the Reds. Brackman has had control issues and injury issues (likely related) in the past, but has been a prized prospect since being drafted in the first round in '07. He was ranked as the #78 prospect in all of baseball just last winter, so it's not like he's a total wash-up. This is basically a no-risk, high-reward move for the Reds, as Brackman has ace-reliever potential if he can stay healthy and hit the strike zone. If he can't, well, then no harm done. These are exactly the kind of moves that good teams make to build a bullpen. Right on, Walt.

andromache is dreaming of that illusive ace pitcher
and even augmented a popular song to channel those wishes. Here's my favorite bit, but you should definitely check out the whole thing:

Mr. Sandman, bring us an ace
Before our season becomes a disgrace
Whether from Texas, Havana, or Tokyo
If he’s got a decent groundball ratio

Blog Red Machine takes a look at the market of recently non-tendered players
and finds Luke Scott, Joe Saunders, and Paul Maholm at least interesting enough to discuss. Scott is an interesting guy (in more ways than one) in that he's an average LF defensively-speaking and a good bat. His career wOBA is a healthy .360. The Reds won't sign him though because 1) he hits lefty and 2) he'll likely get a contract north of $6 mil, or even a multi-year deal.

Joe Saunders? Yuck.

Paul Maholm is a decent lefty who gets ground balls and is stingy with the walks. He's a pitch-to-contact kinda guy who could benefit from having the Reds' infield defense behind him, but he too will likely get a contract similar to Scott. And just like Scott, he doesn't represent enough of an upgrade over the current stable of in-house players the Reds have to warrant spending that kind of money.

HardBallTalk has a nice breakdown of every team's non-tendered players
It's slim pickins, as you'd expect, but still a helpful list of players recently made available.

In case you missed it
the Phillies signed Dontrelle Willis to a one-year deal worth about $1 mil, plus incentives. He'll pitch out of the Philly bullpen, which is exactly what I wanted him to do for the Reds. There is no knowing whether or not the Reds offered Willis a similar opportunity, but dang. I think he could have been a pretty good pick up.

Star-divide

Redleg Nation questions the Reds' hypothetical interest in recently non-tendered infielder Ryan Theriot
He does present an all too familiar dilemma. The Reds need a back up SS for the upcoming season, there is no debating that. But with Zack Cozart penciled in as the starter, with all the questions and uncertainties he presents, any back up the Reds may sign is bound to be fairly close to Cozart in terms of value/ability/projection/and so on.

Now, I really like Cozart. He probably won't be an All-Star, but I'm pretty confident that he'll end up being an above average SS for the next few years. But he is coming off of major arm surgery and he only has a handful of Major League PAs, so if he struggles out of the gate, there may be strong temptation to replace him. And given Dusty's (warranted or unwarranted) reputation for deference to veterans, Theriot may be just the kind of player who could get 400 PAs next year. I get the sense that the organization is confident in Cozart and will give him every chance to succeed, but I'm worried a player like Theriot could change Dusty's mind real quick. I don't know. I don't think I'm being totally rational about this, but it still worries me.

Joey Votto (along with John Axford) won the Tip O'Neill Award this year
which is given out to the baseball player who best exemplifies the spirit of drunken Irish politicians (non-Kennedy division). Or something like that.

Hall o' Famer Hal wants his MVP ballot back
He voted Ryan Braun #1 and Matt Kemp #2. In light of Braun's supposed positive test for a banned substance, Hal wants to change his vote. I understand I'm of the minority opinion when it comes to this kind of thing, and for a variety of reasons, most of which aren't particularly germane to this piece.

But one that is applicable is the wretched sanctimony of guys like Hal. He even says that Braun is appealing and that he'll wait to see what happens. And even if he is suspended, the BBWAA can't do anything about it. But Hal still wants his ballot back. It's a matter of honor or pride or whatever nebulous idealism you want to call it. It's the same bullshit that is making Jeff Bagwell's Hall of Fame bid so contentious. There are plenty of players who did plenty of things (and as the Braun case illustrates, may still be doing plenty of things) that are worth our scrutiny. But this witch hunt to black ball anyone and everyone who you may suspect did something you might find disagreeable is just...well...it's just plain un-American. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

Albert Pujols’ wife says Cardinals fans are being ‘deceived’
I only added this to the Reposter to say that I could not care any less about this than I already do. Smell ya later, Pujols.

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I think you’re a tad off on Hal and Braun. I just watched Mitch Williams on MLB say IF Braun is dirty they should revoke his award and give it to the 2nd place finisher. I was surprised to see an ex major league baseball player take such a hard stance.

Actions have consequences and I don’t feel terribly sorry for Mr. Braun if he knowingly took performance-enhancing drugs to maximize production. hey, play fair or play not at all

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 12:37 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

on a side note

Does anyone have any doubt that Pete Rose would’ve definitely taken steroids to either lengthen his career or maximize his own personal production. I have no doubt at all

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 12:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Of course I have doubt about that.

I can’t just assume stuff like that. He was a bettor. Who said he was a cheater?

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 15, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

well, he did say he was all over greenies.

And there is that Buck O’Neill line: “Only reason we didn’t do steroids is because they weren’t invented yet.”

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Poz was the one who reported it

unless MLBTR scooped him.

I’m loving this meme, for no other reason than the fact that I have no idea what its appeal is.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

/posts picture of rhino pooping.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Except now he's in jch's crawl space

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

His wife left him and took there daughter

He doesn’t talk to me though, so screw him.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You screw him, he's your neighbor

Poor guy could probably use a good screwin’ if he looks like that and his wife left him.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I've tried being nice to him

He just ignores me and gives me odd looks…..kind of like everyone here!

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

You should come to burgers next week and meet e'erbody

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

When?

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually going to be in shitty Dayton next week.

I take it the meet-up is in Cincy?

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

as opposed to scenic dayton?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yep, west siiiiiiide

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

wednesday

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

indeed

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm.... that might be possible

It’s what, an hour from Dayton to Cincy?

It would be an excellent opportunity to get away from my family.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Actuall will be coming from Springfield, so longer

But still potentially doable.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll be coming from Xenia.

Springfield’s another 25 minutes. Heck, you’ll have to come through Xenia, probably.

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by ZJiff30 on Dec 15, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Google maps says 55 minutes

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

1 hr 29 min

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

/repyfail

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

My mom wouldn't approve.

I might have to tell her I’m going to a strip club.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I can email you the speedo pic if she doesn't believe you

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

awww yeah

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

dang

I just assumed that it was going to be on a Tuesday like usual. I’m going to have to try to switch shifts.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

neighbor's, on north bend rd

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I may make it up as well.

I believe ms. KMiB heads back to Philly that morning, so I just might have nothing to fucking do.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

nudge nudge

say no more.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't you be elsewhere in the thread defending a child rapist?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ha!

In grade school we had these annual skits done by community parents about inappropriate touching. There was a whole forest theme, where big bear touched little moose, who then told big moose.

Mama Schourek played big bear every year.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Small world, I played little moose every year

/AaaaaaawwwwwYeeeeaaaaahhhh

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

that is fucking weird.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I've met 7 Red Re

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

/delete button'd

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

# of Red Reporters met: 4
  1. of times I’ve been kidnapped or killed: 0

/SSS

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 15, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ugh, formatting.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 15, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Slyde kidnapped and killed me after the wiffleball game

But I got better.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I've met a number of RRs

Some are much nicer and more reasonable in person.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Some are just like their RR persona

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's true.

Bubba Fan really does like Bubba.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I tend to imagine that in person

I’m probably fairly normal. But I don’t know me in person.

by crolfer on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

you too? Sweet!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a large white man

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You Remember the days?

Sittin on the porch with your family, singing and dancing down in Mississippi?

by DerekH91 on Dec 15, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

jerk'd

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The Internet:

A place were pushovers become hardasses.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

me!

"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

by ZJiff30 on Dec 15, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm thinking I've met more RRs than almost anyone (20-30something)

and I’d say most are more reasonable in person.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He is, but obcwok takes the cake on that distinction

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I need to go to bed.

I thought this said that obcwok likes the taste of urinal cakes for their distinction.

by crolfer on Dec 16, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

the two statements are not mutually exclusive

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

why bother to hide him

it’s not like law and order svu would take his case

Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."

by dunnateher on Dec 15, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he's the one

who said it himself.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, very interesting.

It is fun to think of someone drinking ten cups of coffee before the game for “an edge,” and then peeing themselves by the bottom of the 1st inning.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 15, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that line

it is so much better than writers and ex ball players who feel that they are superior because they did not use steroids.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Whose to say Pete didn't take steroids?

Consider this:

1. Steroids first came into baseball at the tail end of Pete’s career, in the mid-80’s

2. Pete Rose, among other things, owned an interest in a Gold’s Gym at the time (aka “International House of Steroids”)

3. Pete consorted with and employed men who were convicted of dealing steroids (and had them living in his house, passing $$$$ back and forth, etc.)

I’m not saying he did, just that it is definitely a possibility. Of course, he has been self-righteous about the evils of steroid abusers, but that doesn’t really mean much, considering the source.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Pud Galvin used animal testoterone in the 19th century

this stuff has been going on way longer than since the mid-80s

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by kcgard2 on Dec 15, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

And there is evidence that Pete was corking his bat on his race to 4192.

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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 16, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't Hal was alone

I know he most certainly isn’t. But it’s his “guilty until proven innocent” mindset that really gets my dander up.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

what about Brauns stance he is innocent despite testing positive?

When was the last time a positive test was overturned?

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 1:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I dunno

But he says he is innocent and he is entitled to an appeal. He deserves due process, in both the system and public discourse.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

lololololololol

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, now that I've composed myself.

The entire profession of “sports columnist” exists as apostasy to due process.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

here's

what he wrote about it.

the big takeaway:

A kind word for Joe Paterno in this storm is taken by many as a pro vote for a child molester. A quick, "Wait a minute, Joe Paterno is a good man. Let’s see what happened here" is translated as an attempt to minimize the horror of what Jerry Sandusky is charged with doing. It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

This is supposed to be bad? I’m not following.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I get what Poz is trying to say, and he's right

The problem is, that idea doesn’t apply to the Paterno/Sandusky situation because Paterno had direct knowledge of the accusations.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

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by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Mads

How the hell do you guys manage to do that anyway?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

JCH, not NYC got my rec here!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

MOM?!?!?!?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone can be made to look like shit by a good Fisking.

I’m really not in the mood to go down this rood, honestly.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

awww, fuck it.

It’s really slimy, from a writing perspective, to throw two Mark Madden quotes at the bottom of an article about Posnanski.

Posnanski was writing about Paterno and the University (including The Odious Graham Spanier), not Paterno and Sandusky. Those are two different relationships. The university couldn’t have handled the situation worse. I don’t think anyone could disagree with that. That’s literally all Paterno’s saying. Except he’s getting his words twisted to make a story.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Me and Scrabbles' reaction to that:

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

awesome

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This

I lost all respect for him, and won’t read him anymore.

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he was unwilling to pass judgement since he is saving it for his book?

(That’s not a snarky question, I just am curious what exactly motivated your decision).

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 15, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He acted like JoePa was being wronged

No, the kids being raped that he didn’t do anything about were who were being wronged. He said many other things on that level.

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, I think he's too close to the situation

I’m not going to read anything he’s says about it, but he’s still the best sportswriter out there so I’ll read everything not about it

by DerekH91 on Dec 15, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm trying not to take this hard stance

but reading his recent posts, I can’t help but feel differently. It’s not that he didn’t jump on the condemn JoePa bandwagon, but the things he said at the PSU class, and then didn’t try to give an explanation for it seems off putting. He seems to have dug a hole for himself and is continuing to dig it deeper and deeper.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

I lost all my respect for him. I stopped following him on twitter (I know, who cares) and haven’t, and won’t read a single word he has written/will right since.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He is a great writer, no doubt.

But I’ve always felt there was an occasional streak of sanctimoniousness in some of his work, and maybe this is where it came out a bit too much.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 15, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Great writer/sanctimoniousness

generally interchangeable.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

it’s hard to write a lot of opinions and not come off as sanctimonious from time to time.

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by Slyde on Dec 15, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree.

I think it’s the nature of the beast.

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by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And now,

with blogs and comment sections it’s a two way street.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I'm following

I read ’tHan’s link up there, and I’m not sure what he said that was so scandalous. He’s saying we shouldn’t rush to judgment, everyone is entitled to due process, and all that. Or am I missing something?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I just need you to spell it out for me

because I’m still not following. I thought I read that, and I didn’t really see anything controversial. At least, I don’t think i did.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If I didn't have a 2:00 meeting I'd go find it

Someone hopefully will post it before I get back…help a brother out?

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It was this, essentially
1. Joe Paterno is responsible for what happens on his watch. Period.

2. People are making assumptions about what Joe did or didn’t know, what Joe did or didn’t do, and I can’t tell you that those assumptions are wrong. But I can tell you that they are assumptions based on one side of the story.

3. We are in a top-you world where everyone is not only trying to report something faster but is also trying to report something ANGRIER. One guy wants Joe Paterno to resign, the next wants him to be fired, the next wants him to be fired this minute, the next wants him to be fired and arrested, the next wants him to be fired, arrested and jailed, on and on, until we’ve lost sight of who actually committed the crimes here.

4. I think the University could not possibly have handled this worse. It was disgusting and disgraceful, the method in which they fired Joe Paterno after 60 years of service, and yes, I do think Paterno was a scapegoat. Of course he was. I’ve already said that he had to be let go. But to let him dangle out there, take up all the headlines, face the bulk of the media pressure, absolutely, that’s the very definition of scapegoat. Three people were indicted and arrested. A fourth, I hear, will be indicted soon. Joe Paterno is not one of the four.

5. It is still unclear what Paterno did in this case. It will remain unclear for a while. You might be one of the hundreds and hundreds of people I’ve heard from who know EXACTLY what Paterno did. He HAD to know this. He DEFINITELY knew that. He COULD have done something. I respect that. Joe Paterno’s a public figure. You have every right to believe what you want to believe and be absolutely certain about it. But since we have not heard from Joe, not heard from former athletic director Tim Curley, not heard from GA/assistant coach Mike McQueary, not heard from anyone who was in the room, I’ll repeat: It’s unclear. A determined grand jury did not charge Joe Paterno with any crime. A motivated reporting barrage, so far, anyway, has not uncovered a single thing that can tell us definitively what Joe Paterno knew.

by DerekH91 on Dec 15, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He makes a very good point on #4

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm with Joe

JoePa is innocent until proven guilty, and moreover, so is Sandusky. Everyone rushed to judgement on this one, as is always the case in a kid diddler story.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think his quotes from the PSU class were worse, but were made without contemplation and while he was inside the PSU bubble.

I’m not sure I entirely agree with Joe even now, but the idea that I would completely cut off a writer that I enjoy because he partially defended a man who didn’t do enough to stop a child rape seems a little extreme to me.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

My issue is that at first Poz said

“I’m going to let the facts come out before I report on this.” Shortly thereafter he spoke to the PSU class calling JoePa a scapegoat. Then he wrote his SI piece where he continued to defend JoePa.

It seems that Poz is way too close to this situation to write about it without getting his emotions involved, which is fine, and what he initially said. I think he should have done just that.

I wasn’t planning on reading the JoePa book anyway. I love Poz’s baseball writing and will continue to read his baseball stuff.

This is just another unfortunate layer to an already extremely unfortunate story.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

indeed.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yep.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

mmmm hmm

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

But we don't know any of that!

And I think that’s just his point. We don’t know that Sandusky did any of the nasty shit he is alleged to have done, and if he did, we don’t know how much Joe knew about it. We just don’t know enough about any of it to make any judgments yet.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

or Paterno, which is who we're discussing.

Who is a completely different human being altogether.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t know that Sandusky did any of the nasty shit he is alleged to have done

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course everyone thinks he’s guilty
I sure as hell think he is.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

/every'Credsfightever'd

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's nice that you've finally owned up to doing that to people

/ducks

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i am doing neither

you clarified in a later post.

probably because you realized what you said was ridiculous.

please be done now

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. It's back on. I get to have my say.

And nothing of what I said was ridiculous.

It’s true that we don’t know what happened. It’s also true that we all have already made up our minds about what happened. It seems pretty likely that Sandusky is a bad man. It also seems pretty likely JoePa either actively or passively helped cover it up. But at this point, we don’t know what happened. And until we do, the responsible thing is to withhold judgment.

It’s the same shit as the Braun/Hal thing in the OP. We are all so quick to judge alleged steroid users and child rapists, but they deserve their day in court just like anyone else. That is all I’m saying.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to chime in...

Remember the Duke lacrosse case?

Maybe, maybe not.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you're trying to argue both ways

but that’s not what you initially did.

how long are you going to keep going? i’ll just keep responding with a couple of sentences as long as you are going to write these diatribes.

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

How am I "trying to argue both ways"?

And what does that even mean? With what in my post there do you take issue?

I feel like you are either not understanding what I’m trying to say or deliberately misrepresenting it. I hope it’s the first, but either way I think it warrants elaboration. That’s all.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you are saying

we don’t know if he’s guilty, so we should withhold judgment

but also saying

ah, who are we kidding? he’s guilty

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I'm not

I’m saying we don’t know if he’s guilty or not yet. And the responsible thing to do is withhold judgment until he gets his day in court.

And I’m also saying that I think he is probably guilty. Those two things are not contradictory.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

GRANDMA????

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

gray boxes

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Still not enough, loser.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

YEAAAHAHA

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't it amazing how you feel that way when an argmument is this far to the side

half the time I have lost the passion for what I originally argued, and am merely arguing out of pride and spite, and then I realize I am arguing with somebody on the internet, and I lose my pride.

Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.

by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we know a few things pretty certainly.

Legally, we can’t say Sandusky did anything, but realistically I don’t think there’s anyone, including his lawyer, who believes he’s innocent.

I also think we know pretty certainly that JoePa knew about it. Beyond that is a little fuzzy, but that’s enough.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Soooooo....

Bras? Inseams?? COOKIES?!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

lets talk about this

sabermetrics for boobs thing some more…

VORP – value over replacement poontang
BABIP – batting average on boobs in play

anyone else?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

xxxFIP?

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

You just thought about my testicles. Which makes YOU gay. So there!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine, too!

I tilt my hat to the right to compensate.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That explains BP!

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course everyone thinks he's guilty

I sure as hell think he is. But I can’t say that with certainty. And until we can, we should put the torches away.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

But even after he is convicted, we still won't be able to say "with certainty"

I mean, plenty of innocent people have been sent to prison.

I don’t think the trial is going to make anyone any more sure than they are now.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

an indictment is one side of the story. There’s always another, and then a sifting of where the truth lies. It’s not a pretty process, but it’s the best we got.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

But in this case, I don't really think the trial is going to make things much more certain

My point is that we are never going to be 100% certain about anything, including whether the sun is going to come up tomorrow. Waiting for 100% certainty means waiting forever.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't you all see what's happening here!?!

WALT’S INABILITY TO MAKE TRANSACTIONS IS TEARING US APART. Left to our own devices, without baseball stuff to discuss, we get into recursive, self-destructive arguments about nothing at all.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ridin' dirty, right there

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

x

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Will Carroll, it's happened a few times

Here’s why I don’t like overturning an MVP: it’s awarded based on the player’s contributions to a contending team. Kemp was a little better by the numbers and played a harder position. Objectively, if this is the Most Outstanding Player award, he gets it.

Braun gets the MVP because Milwaukee won the division, and LA missed the playoffs. Which is fine with me. Braun’s performance – tainted or no – materially contributed to the Brewers’ success. He should keep the MVP unless MLB goes all NCAA and strips Milwaukee of its division crown.

by ken on Dec 15, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Dontrelle signed with the Phillies?

Why didn’t anyone mention this until now?

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 12:49 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Sad times. #flocka

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

One last shot across the bow for Dontrelle's twitter.

He‘s thanking all the Reds fans, posting the question WHO HAS THE BEST CHEESESTEAK IN PHILLY and has a twitter avatar that will break all y’all motherfuckers hearts:

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude's a balla

whether he can ball or not, he’s a balla.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

From women or school?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

the latter.

I’m the type that doesn’t mind being tied up with women.

by crolfer on Dec 15, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

so would jodie foster

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jodie Foster raped me on a pinball mahcine...

…and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 16, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This comment is criminally under-rec'd

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not picking on you bc...

…but I think that we should all get away from complaining about not enough recs on a comment when said comment was posted less than an hour ago.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 16, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

*With purchase of crolfer of equal or greater value

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Deidre is a pretty name.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

synonymous to Daedalus!

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 1:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

atta boy

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So Fangraphs says Nakajima may be a sign-and-trade

Yankees got him for 2.5 mil, and may be looking to shed him for, I dunno, whatever the Yankees ostensibly “need.”

He’s a decent shortstop/utility guy. Think the Reds could get him for Frazier/[pitcher]?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

I'm just wondering which team it will be

that finally gives a shot to (and finds a position for) Frazier.

It looks obvious that it won’t be the Reds, and kinda bums me out.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

couldn't agree more, I really like the guy.

But it looks more and more like he’ll have to get PT someplace else.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Although, maybe not.

He is pretty unique trade insurance (if you will). If another team’s GM doesn’t want him, but does want Stubbs, Heisey, Francisco, or Alonso in a deal, none of them should be a hang up because the Toddfather could step in in each of their spots (except CF of course, bur he would allow Heisey to move over).

Thats got me thinking…think he can play C??

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

No. And just stop, jerkhead. Meso isn't getting traded.

But your larger point is a good one.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure he is any more

I think that might be Heisey’s job now.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the prison block.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 16, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Favorite AL team?

I’m going to say Royals or Indians, myself.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

POOPFACE!

It looks like I’m going to Seattle this summer. I’m looking forward to lots of two-hour games. I may even convert.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it just needs some Tylenol and a nice nap

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Make sure to use the factor-label method.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

No kidding.

We need to do something that will reaffirm our love for each other. So… #attacksomeoneday?

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Dec 15, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

oh oh me me!!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

we attack you we get recs.

we attack jch we get pink speedos.

It’s an easy choice, really.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I was hoping to be called on to give an answer

Which would be, “That cocksucker ’creds”.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

#AttackCredsYear

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

thread, innocence.....whenever he's inserted, things die

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

well he clearly had good intentions

by vottomatic on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wish I could un-read this

I really did NOT need that mental picture.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

God. Dammit.

I laughed at that.

I am now a worse person than I was 5 minutes ago.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

In other news, the trailer for The Expendables 2 has been released.

What I never understood about the first one was this:

If they are “The Expendables”, how come they all survived (even the one who turned on the team and got killed for it came back to life in the end).

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Because they're all white and only black guys die in action flicks?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

whoops, no. Wait. That's horror movies. Disregard.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Predator an action flick?

How about Predators?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Those rom-coms

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

But even Terry Crews survived!!!!

And he is pretty black, last time I checked.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I see they added Chuck Norris

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of action movies...

anyone ever see “Extreme Prejudice” with Powers Boothe and Nick Nolte?

Best line of the movie:
“You’ve got two men fighting for you, honey. The least you can do is show a titty!”

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy Crap, "Extreme Prejudice!"

Been a long time since I’ve seen that one. One of those movies where you forget the title, and then you can’t remember if it was a real movie or not, because when you try to explain it to someone, all you can do is say,

“It had that one guy in it! And that other guy! And the one guy shot the other guy!”

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

it's totally awesomesauce

sadly not available on Netflix streaming

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It appears to be available on Amazon Instant Video (which I have never used)

But $8.99? That don’t seem right, to stream a single 25-year old movie.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear I saw a movie once

It was set in the future, and the only sex people had was via some virtual reality helmet thing. So some dude disappears for a while and no one can find him. They end up finding him, he had set the orgasm portion of the virtual sex machine thingy to loop, and he was a quivering, slobbering mess when they found him.

Can anyone name it?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Demolition Man.

Snipes and…Stallone, I think?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is a scene like that in Sleeper

Demolition man had the sex machine, but no bit where a dude orgasmed out on it.

I seem to remember a Jane Fonda movie that had an “orgazmitron” – I think it was Barbarella? Also had a character named Duran Duran, if I remember correctly.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

mmm, young Jane Fonda.

I’d be hungry like the wolf.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

what a horrible scenario

do they still make the Dippin Dots, aka the ice cream of the future?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

And they use seashells to wipe their asses.

They never explain how it works.

Also, the final line before Stallone kicks Snipes’ head off after freezing him with liquid nitrogen is “Head’s up!”

Dirt Bikes!

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

it's pretty obvious how it works.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

A collection of YouTube clips from that movie is 1000 times more entertaining than the movie itself

But that is true of many Stallone movies.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which

If you watch only the Dance scenes from Step Up 3, it ends up being a delightful comedy.

by crolfer on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The virtual sex would be with Sandra Bullock, not a bad thing

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Gross.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

pre Jesse James, etc. Sandra Bullock

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not watching her act, you're having sex with her

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

She's not topping any lists, but she well above replacement level

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fire on the amazon, made the same year as Demolition Man

Google it. Then come back here and apologize.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

a 20 year old movie?

that’s not the real sandra bullock

are we allowing any time frame? if so, she’s still awful

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

how are her peripherals?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

awesome.

Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.

by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No way

She’s a scab from ’95

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had sex with a lot of annoying women

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you paid them and they went away.

Bullock is definitely the whiny, clingy type.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll agree with that prediction

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Jennifer Aniston'd

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Dec 15, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i've always really really hated jennifer aniston

but the adam sandler movie & horrible bosses have convinced me that she is not unattractive

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Props where props are due

She’s aged phenomenally well.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

Crazy as shit it seems, but looks great for being almost 43 years old.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

she was the best part

of Horrible Bosses

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ATTACK JCH DAY!

Contributing little more than than snark and wittiness to SBN since 2007.

by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

incorrect and wrong

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Question:

I made a folder hidden in Windows 7, but I cannot find it now. How do I make it visible again?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

am I the only one who, on their last day on a work computer,

just wants to download all of the filthiest, worst, porn I can muster?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

last day?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Mainly, only 30GB?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

kids have their own computers at your school?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

They're the cheapest, crappiest, slowest laptops that Windows can possibly run on

And we still have to carry fucking textbooks.
And nothing on the internet works ’cause they have the same filtering system as the elementary schools.
inb4 “back in my day”

Go Colts Dammit!

by Ram27 on Dec 15, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ours really aren't that bad.

Nothing fantastic, but it’s a pretty middle-of-the-line computer; perfectly good for schoolwork. And yeah, computers aren’t used as a textbook replacement, but it’s still awesome to have the majority of your work on one machine that you take with you to school and home.

by sexsalad on Dec 15, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

do you use them in most of your classes on a daily bases?

like to write you notes on?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

There are some teachers who are kind of old-fashioned and don’t like us using computers a lot, but for the most part the teachers embrace let us use them for notes. They have tablets because that makes it easier to do notes for math classes. I can’t express how awesome it is to have the bulk of my notes in One Note and not worry about keeping track of seven or eight different notebooks.

by sexsalad on Dec 15, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know

I think I would be old fashion if I taught a class. I think technology has its place, but I would prefer my students to write their notes by hand (I can’t spell for shit which gets 30X worse without the aid of spell check, and my hand writing is absolutely awful, so i think if i can understand my hand written notes anyone can).

I really don’t care if students text, you can send text messages and still pay attention, and you might even actually have a somewhat important message to send. But I have read some studies that say you are more likely to remember lectures if you write your notes by hand rather than type them. Also it is really easy to distract yourself with a laptop without really setting out to do so. You could be waiting for an email, and check it, then think well i mightaswell check facebook as well, and well i guess it wouldn’t hurt to check out good ole RR as well. And before you know it you are knee deep in an internet time suck and the class is over and you have no idea what it was about.

Also I think there is a greater interaction if your face isn’t buried in a laptop.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

you're young and technology has already passed you by

you should never look for a way to limit technology in your line of work. that’s just asking to be left behind in your industry.

technology does have it’s place and that place is everywhere. you should definitely be able to take notes on computers

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i would probably allow it at first and see how it goes

or maybe even if i teach different sections of the same course I would allow one class to use a computer and not allow the other, and see if there is a noticeable difference.

I do know a number of professors I have talked to about it, feel that students are more likely to take an active role in a class without laptops.

Also this goes out the window completely in a giant lecture with hundreds of students.

Also unless some day i trick a community college to hire somebody with an M.A. and no teaching experience, or a rash of history teachers go on disability in the next 2 months, I will probably never teach a class, so this is all academic in the greatest sense.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

technology - yes.

computers – maybe.

The omnipresent Microsoft Office software severely narrows your ability to take notes/write/tabulate/use your brain. Students should let their brain develop and dictate how they solve problems. Not software.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i would never use it to take notes

because Word always thinks it has a better formatting idea than I do, so I would spend my entire time fucking dealing with the formatting.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

what kind of issues do you have with formatting?

i use word to take notes in meetings pretty much every day

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

mostly indenting issues

word almost always has a better idea about indenting.

Also SBN just said I made a new comment…

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

writing in margins, numbering things within a paragraph, etc are really difficult

and Excel is what I meant for math. It makes quantifying anything more than multiplication tables pretty tricky. And God forbid you actually want to print it out.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess it depends on note taking methods

i have no problems at all taking notes on a computer. It’s a lot easier for me to keep up because I can type quicker than I can write & my hands don’t cramp.

i don’t think excel would be a useful tool for math classes.

i would say you’d have to still use paper or a tablet for math. tablet technology at this point probably isn’t advanced enough for math.

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it also depends on the notes

if i am simply writing down information from a fairly straight forward business brief, typing it probably works well.

If I am writing down information I am trying to learn and remember and it is somewhat nuanced I would rather write by hand.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i get concepts and ideas pretty fast

but i suck at memorizing facts.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a terrible memory

in undergrad tests stressed me out so much, because i had to spend god knows how much time memorizing stuff, and i was always freaked out I would forget it during the test.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 16, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, personal style and all that.

It also kills my eyes to be staring at a computer screen. For editing it also helps to be able to flip through pages, for me at least.

I’m just worried that kids won’t be able to develop a personal style if they’re being bred to use Word for the rest of their lives.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

will it effect teh ability to work and buy shit?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm the opposite

i look at a computer screen 12+ hours a day without issue.

if I try to read 3 or 4 pages of an actual book, magazine or newspaper it’s an instant migraine

by 'tHan on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I'm the same way

that’s why I have 2 external monitors and my laptop monitor at work

ridiculous productivity

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Trying to make a works cited page can be a bitch in Word.

Sort of irrelevant because you’re talking about note-taking, but I thought I’d throw that out there. Word just doesn’t ever want to indent the second line and not the first, so you have to hanging indent each line individually. When you’re writing a term paper with fifteen sources, that takes a little bit.

by sexsalad on Dec 15, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not that hard to do

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, what 'creds said

wow we’re agreeing a lot lately, WTF

since Word 2007, making any kind of works cited, bibliography, etc is cake

MLA, APA, don’t matter how you wanna do it. Dat shitz pretty much plug n’ play

Fill out all the info you need based on the wizard for it, and it inserts it for you, none of that hanging ident nonsense of which you speak

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i usually don't use it, but it may have been smart when i was writing papers with dozens of sources

Word does have a work cited feature, and I think it even has options for different styles.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You're doing it wrong.

Highlight all the lines you want to indent and move the bottom tab thingy in the ruler .5 inches to the right.

Go Colts Dammit!

by Ram27 on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently someone doesn't know how to properly set a print area in Excel

and everything that you said about Word is very easy

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Computer programs will do exactly what you ask them to 99% of the time

Most people’s issue with computer boils down to “Why are you doing what I told you to do instead of what I want you to do?”

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, one note is awesome

but you’re like one of 4 people I know who have actually ever name dropped it

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

you're kidding, right?

Word 2010 so easy to format anything

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That's absolutely a problem.

People downloading games onto their computers and playing them in class is a problem as well. They try to fix that with a block on sites like Facebook and Twitter. Also, the theory that a lot of teachers have is that they don’t really give a shit if their students pay attention, and that it’s the student’s responsibility to pay attention.

In addition to that there’s a program called DyKnow which teachers can use to monitor students’ screens and also block features of the computer; for example, they can block you from going to your documents. That program allows teachers to block everything except One Note if they so wish, which pretty much forces you to either take notes or sit there and do nothing.

by sexsalad on Dec 15, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If I were a teacher I would never use the program DyKnow

I would consider that to be an invasion of privacy. Either I trust you guys enough to use laptops or i don’t.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

People learn in different ways.

Insisting people to take notes by hand instead of typing is a total and complete “get off my lawn” move.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 16, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

unless you know effective shorthand..

notes by hand is a waste of time

everyone should heed ’tHan’s advice and realize that if you can’t type faster than you write, you’re just doin’ it wrong

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I can type a million types faster than I can write.

But I’m a visual learner with a hint of kinesthetic learner, and the physical act of taking notes in my own handwriting (and drawing all over the margins while I listen to a lecture) used to be a key study/memory tool for me. For me, taking notes by hand wasn’t a wast of time, but everyone learns differently.

Of course, laptops weren’t in widespread use the last time I was in school, so I’ve never tried to take notes on a coputer in a classroom setting before. Maybe I’d adapt.

by the finest muffins on Dec 16, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

you're right, everyone has different learning types

however I’ve found in any notes intensive lectures, sessions, what have you, I can capture so much more with typing or dictation software than I ever can with reed and papyrus..

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 17, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to have to do crossword puzzles during lectures...

…to distract my mind enough that I could listen to the teacher without getting caught up in other distractions, like the people around me…or anything shiny.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 17, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

so's the reverse, though.

forcing people to type is laaaaame.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 17, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually no, at least not in the Oak Hills SD

That’s something that makes no sense to me. My fourth grader has had to turn in a few typed assignments, plus they work on laptops at school for some things and yet they don’t teach typing.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 17, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

that makes no damn sense

don’t teach it, but have assignments in it..

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 17, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

West siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide

I lived in Cheviot for a while. (mostly) good folks over there.

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by jch24 on Dec 17, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I've lived in Cheviot, Covedale and now Bridgetown

That’s what happens when you marry a Westsider. They drag you over here.

There ARE a lot of good people over here — and a lot of people who would cut your throat for five bucks but, hey, it’s home to me now.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 17, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

bleh

*for the most part teachers embrace the computer program and let us use them for notes

by sexsalad on Dec 15, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, yes, yes.

Notes on a neatly organized program are the best thing ever.
But it really annoys the hell outta me when there’s free time and I wanna check RR or just a harmless blog and its blocked. If kids are gonna dick around on Facebook during class then it should be their fault and reflected in their grade.

Go Colts Dammit!

by Ram27 on Dec 15, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

But allowing kids to flunk is just not something schools are willing to do

regardless of whether the kids actually deserve to flunk

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 15, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The argument is silly anyway

Whether or not a school is willing to let students flunk, it doesn’t have to provide them every opportunity to do so.

Most people wouldn’t approve of multiple TVs showing E! and ESPN in every classroom. Allowing completely unfettered internet access is essentially the same thing.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

What I would probably do after greater thought

is tell college students that I personally think they will get more if they leave they laptops in their bags, but they are adults and are not legally required to be in my class so as long as they are not disruptive I will allow it. But I would also tell them that if class discussion tanks, I will not allow the use of laptops anymore.

I was a freshman in 2005, and I rarely remember laptops in class. It wasn’t really a part of our culture I guess.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

the entire comment disapeared, that is really weird.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

some profs have rules against laptops in class for us.

It depends. Taking a 9-5 weekend class, well no, you’re gonna have to allow your kids to have laptops, otherwise you’ll have lots of not-so-surreptitious phone checking. But for a 90 minute class, I have no problem with banning laptops.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

and the comment came back

and it isn’t doubled.

Originally the comment I made at 8:49 dispersed except the subject line, and it showed up as a double post, and it showed up as a “new comment”, that was highlighted and I z’d to.

Has anything like this happened to anyone else.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it is a terrible thing

although it would be more useful to give laptops to students in inner city schools, as they are more likely to have access to a home computer.

I know some Universities give laptops to their undergrads, Seton Hall does, I just didn’t realize high schools were doing that.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand where you're coming from there, but it's a lot more practical financially for a private school because all it takes is a network system to support the large amount of computers and a couple teachers to volunteer to administer the program.

They build the cost (times about ten) into tuition, so in essence the families pay for our laptops. With a public school that has no tuition, they’d actually have to buy the computers for every student. That would get extremely expensive.

by sexsalad on Dec 15, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I see

well i guess at a private school students (their families) are paying for pretty much everything anyway. Honestly if that is how it works I would rather be able to opt out of the laptop, buy my own computer and watch porn.

What high school boy with internet access isn’t watching tons and tons of porn anyway?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Google

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't

It’s gone forever! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Control Panel > Folder Options.

Find the one that says “show hidden files and folders”

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

control panel > folder options > View tab > show hidden files and folders

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My solution was to have the cat chew through the power cord, and then wait for the battery to run out

It is not slow anymore. It is stopped.

I just wish Amazon would hurry the fuck up with delivering the new cable.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

My cable literally melted.

I have no idea how that even happened.

by crolfer on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

close your windows/tabs/restart

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

My laptop was brought back from death

I should have left it there. There are many sites that won’t load, including all the SB Nation sites. Twitter is really slow on it too.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have the patience to hassle with that kind of shit

I usually buy a new laptop every 2 or 3 years or so. You can get ’em for less than $400 or so.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If I ever become a rich person

I’m going to use this line for a dog whistle so RR will know my true identity.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, virus?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Not any that my software has detected

It is 4 years old. Everything I’ve tried hasn’t sped it up.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

bring it to burgers

If I fix it, you buy my burger.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

and beer

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, I pay for those visits myself

It helps my self-esteem.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Will you all still be there at 10?

That is as early as I can get there.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, but I would guess so

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Your best bet is to keep boot-up programs to a minimum

pretty much every piece of software you ever install defaults itself to load at startup, meaning the comp is trying to load like 80 programs at once when you first turn on the machine, and it just never ever catches up. My laptop used to take 45 minutes to get up to speed sometimes (I am not quite sure exactly what my wife had done to this day), but now within 5 or 6 it’s good to go usually.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 15, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

WinPatrol

is a good program for that. It’s free, and light on resources. It warns you if programs are added to startup, or changes are made in the registry, and blocks them if you tell it to.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, you could do it yourself

because your computer is old and has a small hard drive. And you don’t wanna slow the CPU down by running programs to speed up the CPU. And fill up your hard drive with stuff because a 54 KB download is like half your available space.

I still love my laptop even though it sucks…it makes me WORK for it’s love.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 15, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

WinPatrol

gives you the option of delaying the startup of some programs. So if you actually do want them all running, it will stagger the start times for you, so the computer boots faster.

It also does a lot of other things, like blocking drive-by downloads or any other programs that might try to install themselves without your knowledge. I use it instead of antivirus software (along with a firewall).

Here’s something for people who don’t want more software on board:

Advanced System Care

The basic program is free, and will clean up your system and optimize it. You can then remove it if you want. I don’t like most programs like this, because they end up removing programs I installed and use, but Advanced System Care is very good at targeting only actual malware. You can also tell it which things you want to clean up, and which you don’t.

It’s pretty fast, as these types of programs go, except if you want it to apply all Windows security updates for you. If you’re way behind, that might take awhile.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 16, 2011 6:46 AM EST up reply actions  

but that advice is probably very useful for coop

thanks BF!

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 15, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

uninstall/reinstall flash for starters

What browser are you using?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

IE 7

It is really pissing me off

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Death to IE

I only use it to log into my work VPN, as nothing else works. Aside from that, I avoid it like the plague.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

this

SBN is always wonky on IE.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

As most people here know, I’m a huge Firefox w/AdBlockPlus guy.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like user error

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

As always, you seem smart until you open your mouth.

Chrome rocks!

"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

by ZJiff30 on Dec 15, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The opposite holds true for many people I've met

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Chuck's got you on this one

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

do ChuckeCheeses even still exist?

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

a quick google search says yes

i haven’t seen their commercials in years, but I don’t really watch much that would have their commercials either.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

holy fucking shit, how do parents afford birthday parties there

$441 for a party for 25 kids.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

they have jobs...

$441 for 25 kids is about average, and it avoids the dreaded gift bag expectation

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Dec 16, 2011 6:58 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

That's what I was thinking.

How many 10 year olds actually have 24 friends?

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 16, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like somebody's jealous

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by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There are parties 100 times that expensive out here.

It’s freakish.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 16, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but they don't serve beer

Cocksuckers.

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by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

A flask gives any establishment a liquor license

if they did serve beer, that would be an interesting place for a sorority girl’s 21st birthday party.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 16, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Showbiz Pizza served beer (they might still serve it if you can find one)

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by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

oh man, Service Merchandise

And Swallen’s.

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by jch24 on Dec 17, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

touch yourself at night

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't mind if I do!

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Buy a Mac

/obligatory

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Speaking of which

fail owned pwnd pictures

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL, seriously

They’re missing the last word of the title.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

not a fail

if it’s an ad for Adobe.

Obviously ’shopped. You can see the pixelation around the apple.

That typo, OTOH…

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by BubbaFan on Dec 16, 2011 6:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Viva la Vida came on my Pandora just now.

/thinks of Scott Rolen
/pours one out
/skips song.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

anyone seen Machete?

That flick needs a sequel!

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

who's the beautiful naked woman?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

#dang

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This is accurate.

Sadly.

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by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

There was plenty of eye candy

Rodriguez, Alba, the chick who played Lohan’s mom (Alicia Marek) – who, incidentally, is only 11 years older than Lohan.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

but all the technology should be updated.

It could be called Chainsaw.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Machete has definitely been the best thing to come out of Grindhouse

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Might be the most fun movie I've watched all year.

Danny Trejo deserves some kind of award.

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by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

So, back to baseball...

Is it crazy to think the Reds and Pads could match up on a trade for Latos? The Pads are in a rebuild mode, and don’t need Latos right now. The Reds could then offer them a buttload of prospects to help their rebuild. Would a package of Hamilton, Yaz, Yonder and one of Wood/Bailey/Volquez be enough (or at least a starting point)? This seems like something that makes a lot more sense than trying to match up with another team trying to win now.

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by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think they have any motivation to trade Latos.

He’s young and cheap and under team control for a long time.

Might as well have someone for the fans to recognize.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on the situation

Especially in that ballpark, they don’t need a de facto ace. The Harangutan can put solid numbers up there. So, you have to weigh the benefits of said young ace versus the benefits of 4 young cost controlled, premium prospects.

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by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes,

but he pitched in SD last year and put up decent numbers. That ballpark is a pitchers paradise, so guys like Bailey and Wood would look a lot better there than in GABP. I just used him as an example.

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by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost as retarded as still using the word retarded.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 17, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

He's by all counts a jerk, so it would stink to have to root for him.

That said, he’s a stud. I think a buffet of prospects could do it.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he's the "face of the franchise" which helps.

Unk Weezy would know more, but I think that’s Chase Headley. Who, incindentally, I would also love to have.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it's probably Headley

it was Adrian Gonzalez, then he got traded. Then it was Heath Bell, and he got let go. I don’t think they’re too worried about changing the face of the franchise. But yeah, at this point it’s probably Headley.

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by UncleWeez on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, Headley is likely to be traded too

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LF solved!

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I was kind of alluding to this in saying they aren't worried about trading the face

Headley pops up in trade rumors frequently

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by UncleWeez on Dec 15, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Who cares

lets get Carpenter.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have this Carpenter.

Dude is hard to strike out.

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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 17, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

His third strike and we're out!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 17, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I would at least give it some thought if I were the Pads

Hamilton, Grandal, and Yonder is a pretty good haul. Not sure how interested they would be in any of those pitchers, but the first three guys are a good starting point for almost any trade.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Grandal, Hamilton, Corcino, and Yorman.

If they trade him it’s because they think thy’re more than a year away, so it would make sense that they’d want prospects that werent necessarily at the MLB level.

Doubt they’d want Alonso since they picked up Rizzo in the Gonzalez trade with Boston.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

even better

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

good lord

This will ensure the reds will become the equivalent of the Astros after the votto window slams shut

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 3:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Yeah

Because Alonso, Mesoraco, Frazier, Heisey, Francisco, Stubbs, Bruce, Cueto, Wood, Latos, etc are all going to be terrible.

Right?

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hanigan, Cozart, Stephenson...

Hank Rod, Vidal, Sappelt, Lotzkar, Torreyes…

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Latos...

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You should've expected this response

When you included OBWOK’S boyfriend Yorman

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ARE YOU RETARDED? CHECK YES OR POTATO.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The irritating thing about this kind of fawning coverage is that it makes you want to root against him

Tebow seems like a perfectly nice person, and it is always cool to see a player (or team) succeed in an unconventional way. But this shit is just getting out of hand.

Before he went crazy, Vince Young was doing very similar things, and no one was ready to anoint him as the greatest QB in the NFL.

I don’t want to see Tebow fail, but I would love to see Rick Reilly look like an idiot.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's because VY was black in Tennessee and Tebow is white in CO

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I should do some work now.

I’m proud of this thread, aside from the little boy rape part.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Cuddyer's lifetime splits against lefties: .290/.378/.491

He’s going to be too expensive, probably 3 years (or more) and is bad at defense, but the Reds need a bat like that. Especially if Heisey’s splits continue to be so badly inverted.

Alonso is a lefty, but if he’s being traded, it’ll razor-thin out there. Phipps?

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"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

On a per dollar basis over the next 3 years

I like Frazier over Cuddyer.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, looking back at Frazier's accolades for the 40-man thing

made me rediscover why he was a deal.

This is probably moot given that the Reds might have less money than the $8M of payroll space I thought was a reasonable estimate, but it’s no fun thinking only about dollar-effiency on a win-now team.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. The money thing.

So what are the Reds gonna do with their new shiny ace in a couple of years? Trade him for prospects?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

why he was a "big deal"*

I mean. And I why he could be in a deal too I guess.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Why the hell hasn't that been posted here before?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Darvish to the Reds!

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

x

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nope, you put me in the blue, uh, suit thingy

Everyone here knows my favorite color is red.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Two memes for the price of one

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

dang

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

heh. Jon Bois:
Did you know that Dontrelle Willis posted a 2.43 ERA through 191 innings last season? That isn’t true, but did you know it?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Mark's Hawaiian cousin?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

new shoegaze post-punk band.

Their EP is pretty good, I’m not sure if you’ve heard it.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he reported

that the Reds DIDN’T sign Willingham.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He is Hawaiian

He was in the Yankees system last year. I guess they were underwhelmed by his 22.85 ERA.

His first go-around with the Yanks, he was part of the Swisher for Betemit trade.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

24 NRIs.

I think there’s an inverse relationship between “number of non-roster invitees” and “eventual quality of the team.”

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Krivsky and Bowden put in a lot of effort and study time 8 years ago

there’s no reason why all that stuff they learned should go to waste. They were right then and they’ll prove it now for as long as it takes!

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Dec 15, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

come on, you should embed this shit!

You are so December 14th!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Who was it that was asking for a list of bands to like or not like

I found it.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

haha

I love that the Boredoms are on there. And the last one is great.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Dec 15, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

it was me.

And good! I’ll now make sure to go out of my way to avoid the Spin Doctors!

I find it amazing that Cold War Kids are listed. They’re really religious, I always thought.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Spin Doctors, really?

Lindsay Lohan too

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

"We Strongly recommend that you burn the CDs"

Even if they don’t have a sense of irony, they have to be worried this will be misinterpreted.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Also, the site is called "Love God's Way"

which sounds like an inadvertent reference to the Psychedelic Furs. Almost certainly would fall under their “gay gateway” category.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Also again

“In the era of internet mp3 piracy,” I guess you’re supposed to burn a CD, then burn it.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 15, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

conversation at work

guy: I just heard that due the energy crisis santa claus isnt’ giving out coal this year, the bad kids will get nickelback cds

girl: OH MY God! who said that? i like nickelback!

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 4:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Kill it with fire

I worked with a woman at Toyota that loved Nickelback and Lifehouse. She caught a lot of hell for that.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn'y HLM a Nickelback fan?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

no

but I’m a big Lifehouse fan thank you very much cock knocker….

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That's because Lifehouse is awesome.

some people are just too scared to admit it.

by crolfer on Dec 16, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You & Me was the first song we danced to at our wedding

and First Time was our song

.. fuck, I need a moment

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 16, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you guys. Lifehouse is awesome.

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by ZJiff30 on Dec 17, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

fistbump

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 17, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

if you don't know their awesomeness, then I'm not telling you

you have an iPhone, you go look them up

you’ll thank me later

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 17, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

THEY DO EXIST!!!!

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by UncleWeez on Dec 15, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This surprises me.... ok not at all

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by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I have yet to read a single comment on this thread

but since it has over 400 comments I am going to go ahead an assume there were several long inane conversations that at best are unrelated to baseball, and at worst totally and completely lacking in substance.

//Unfortunately the Cookies’d

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

How do you feel about having virtual sex with Sandra Bullock?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

circa 1993?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

How old would Yossi have been in '93?

I was 16 and fair game for Miss Bullock.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

winner

actually 1993 was the first year i was aware of.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

My high school graduation year.

I wasn’t too aware that year.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

best virtual sex i ever had!

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

She blew Yossi years ago

and now she might be alone?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean i was away from my comptuer for liek an hour an a half

but now that I am down here, I have completely forgetten anything that whomever wrote the reposter actually wrote. I cannot tell you about one link right now.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Using my RR catchphrase from a dead thread and not even rec'ing it?

I see how it is.

Red Reporter: Unfortunately, the Yossi

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by BK on Dec 15, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought i did rec it

SBN has been really wonky.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm. From Hornberger
@DKnobler
More on A’s price for Gio: Hear they asked Reds for Alonso, plus 1 of top catching prospects, plus more

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

That seems fair, I think

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It has been tough day around here, huh?

I’m being sincere. I’d have to think think hard about Alonso/Grandal + more, but I think ultimately I would do it. I don’t think it’s a major overpay, but more of a “cost of doing business” kinda thing.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why I wouldn't want to be in charge.

This is a tough trade to make.

But you have to pay something to get something.

Trading big time positions players for pitchers makes me nervous, as there is a real chance Gio, or any pitcher, could get hurt in spring training, and not be productive for the Reds.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

let me edit that

*big time position player prospects.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's an overpay, but that's the market right now.

If Walt can manage to get a good pitcher and hold on to one of the two, I’ll be thrilled. But I don’t think it’ll happen.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly.

What is continually swept under the rug in this whole gig is that the Reds will have to find some LF production from somewhere if Alonso is traded.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Heisey and company could hold it down decently

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect two WAR from Heisey next year. The offense did just fine the past two years without any production out of LF.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Your third sentence is very true.

I tend to doubt the first two. Especially because after Heisey there really isn’t anyone I trust to contribute at all.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

True about the offense.

But I’m still worried about Stubbs, we’ll be starting a rookie Catcher and rookie SS, the 3B situation is still totally in flux, and BP ain’t posting another year like he did last year.

I really, REALLY want Alonso’s bat in this lineup next year.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Post #666

Kevin Mitchell is the AntiChrist!

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by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

no, no, no, you've got it all wrong

the AntiChrist is Batman!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Fray-zhuh?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but the offense is probably fine

I would love to get another hitter to go with Bruce and Votto. But in 2011 the Reds will get more production at 3B and SS and CF (I hope) than they did this year.

I think Phillips will probably fall off a bit, just because he had an insane career year last year. Meso may also initially downgrade the catching production, as he may have a break in period and you can’t expect any rookie to come in and replace a guy who put up close to .800 OPS’s in back to back seasons.

Also seeing Heisey play near everyday in left could also improve left field’s production compared to Gomes and Lewis last year.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Want to know who would improve the fuck out of the LF offense?

Alonso.

Cozart’s a rookie, Meso’s a rookie, and I’m still not sold that 3B production will be vastly improved from last year (let’s be honest, Rolen’s going to play as long as he wants, and will END’s production be a vast improvement from what Cairo put up last year?)

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like this argument.

I’m starting to have doubts about the value of a trade if it costs Alonso. I’d very much like to see him playing for the Reds next year, at least until they give him a real chance in LF. I’m warming to the idea of Edwin Jackson, or of course a Gonzalez/Shields type if it could be done without Alonso. But there are so many damn question marks in the pitching, and that makes me hesitant to give up on some of those guys: Arroyo’s gotta have a bit of a bump, Wood was just weird last year, Volquez was too. Some good luck would be enough. Can we trade some scrubs for luck?

by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 16, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

We haven’t really discussed it much, but what happens if the pitcher we trade for turns out to be injured or just kind of suck? It happens often in these big deals…Mulder, Johan, and Peavy come to mind.

When you factor in “worst case scenario” to the trade analysis, it steers me towards an overpay for a guy like Latos much more than Shields; if Latos needs TJ a year after the trade, you can non-tender him if you’d really like, but if Shields is a bust or hurt you’re on the hook for nearly $30 million.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 16, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

This is SO true

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

but

I wonder what “plus more” is.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Roar, maybe?

He seems like the guy they’d take a flyer on

by DerekH91 on Dec 15, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the more is likely none 40 man guys

As the A’s are going younger their roster is getting crowded

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

they do need offense

But I don’t think the Reds will give up END. He’s their third baseman of the future.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd almost prefer him over Gio.

If that happens, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Yonder turn into a human doubles machine in Petco.

by FordhamRam on Dec 15, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, he's far, far preferable to Gio.

Both guys have 4 years of control, but one of Latos’ is pre-arb. So, cheaper.

He’s also just a better pitcher.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

How much of that is PetCo?

I want Shields over them all.

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The Trop is just about as friendly for pitchers as Petco.

Latos is younger, strikes more out, is cheaper, and has an extra year of control. All other things being equal, he’s easily the best option we’ve discussed.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

latos sounds good

i would say let’s trade votto for him, but that’s probably not what the padres are looking for

by 'tHan on Dec 15, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

votto arroyo rolen and janish

For matos and headley and their mgr

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 9:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

almost??

I’d take Latos 11 times out of 10, and I’d happily give up Grandal and Alonso and probably Hamilton too.

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by UncleWeez on Dec 15, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

eh. How are you going to quantify that exactly?

And there are some crappy offenses in the AL too.

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by nycredsfan on Dec 15, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

...the worst year of his career

in which he was still a league-average starter.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, yes

That’ll teach me to jump into the middle of a conversation.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd still like either of them

and considering that Latos is not being traded (I hate to break your heart. Again.), I think Shields is still tops on the list.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

next year:

Shields: 8 million

Latos: .5 million

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

so what I'm getting at is

that if you’re going to overpay via prospects, do it for the cheap one!

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I can dig it, holmes

but I’m pretty confident that the Padres aren’t trading him.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 15, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

it is smart to dangle him out there

in case some team makes some crazy offer, if you can get somebody to give you the equivalent of Grandal, Alsonso, Frazier, Boxberger, and Wood, more power to you.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's more or less what Tampa's asking for Shields.

Look, the Pads and Rays have operated with similar budget constraints for several years, yet one team continues to whip ass while the other basically has sucked (in a worse division.)

Who would you rather trade with?

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

and, also

there’s a reason Freidman continues to direct any trade discussions away from Shields and towards Davis and Niemann: there’s a pretty solid chance the Rays are the preseason favorites to win the WS next year if they DON’T trade Shields.

Sure, they need a 1B, but what if they choose to keep Shields and sign Derrek Lee to a 1 year, $3 million deal instead?

They don’t have any incentive to trade him other than to admit that he had a career year and his trade value couldn’t be higher. While that puts you in somewhat of a position of power, it also throws up red flags to everyone else in MLB.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

motto of RR

“go for the young cheap one”

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And 30-32

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by jch24 on Dec 16, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

How about comparing divisional payroll?

or HRs
or WAR
OPS

the Yankees and Red Sox are pretty good on offense.

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

not with offense

Edgar Renteria – World Series MVP

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Buster Posey

mid season call-up.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Devin Mesoraco

2012 will be his first full season

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by UncleWeez on Dec 16, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Shields faces tougher competition and tougher environments

I really don’t think this can even be argued

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by kcgard2 on Dec 16, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the kicker

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by ChiDa on Dec 15, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Wood

Wood is a flyball pitcher who is probably better suited for making half his starts in Oakland rather than Cincinnati.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you may be over valuing Wood.

He was excellent in the second half of 2010 but terrible in the first half of 2011.

He stuff is fine but nothing to write home about and his command is pretty pedestrian, especially considering his average fastball is 89.3 MPH.

Also remember that despite being just 24 years old, he has already had a major shoulder injury and lost a few miles on his fastball.

Wood could turn into a fine work horse of a starting pitcher, but he could also bust or get hurt again.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

and I realize my last statement about Wood turning into a work horse or busting can be said about any prospect

but it does not seem likely he will become an ace.

And yes Cliff Lee is a lefty with similar stuff who is an ace, but I don’t think 10 years ago the Indians would would have thought Cliff Lee would pitch like Cliff Lee. He did something pretty amazing, he had very average command prior to 2008. Since 2008 Cliff has not walked more 1.67/9IP in a season, and also he changed his style. Prior to and including 2007, Cliff Lee’s GB rate was always under 40%, since it has always been over 40%.

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by Yossarian22 on Dec 15, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Something is going to happen this week

I bet this is an intentional leak from the Reds side. This deal seem completely reasonable, if its Grandal.

If the Rays know that we are getting closer with someone else, then their demands on Shields will likely come down.

I think one of the reasons none of the SPs have been traded yet is because they all want our prospects the most out of the teams looking for SP.

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by Dave from Louisville on Dec 15, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a very reasonable point of view

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by obc2 on Dec 15, 2011 7:28 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

but Melissa Stark is smokin' hot!

And when I was in college, a guy I knew was the younger brother of her roommate in college…and he said she was slutty at UVA!

That’s hot!

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 15, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A "Melissa Stark" GIS

brings up Erin Andrews, Lisa Guerrero, and a Melissa Stark realdoll. That’s gotta kill the ol’ self esteem.

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by Cy Schourek on Dec 15, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

A carrot,

because the shepherd’s toe whistles a sad tune.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 16, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

i just read a Yahoo comment
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Someone say something smart, quick.

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by Ram27 on Dec 16, 2011 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

If it weren't for my horse I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

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