Updating the Top 100; Honorable Mention - Bronson Arroyo
by riverfront76 on Dec 13, 2011 9:30 AM EST
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Tough year. After five consecutive years of being Cincinnati's most reliable pitcher, Bronson Arroyo hit the wall in a very unfortunate way in 2011, although in typical Arroyo fashion, he tried to power his way through the wall. Falling just one inning shy of 200 (the first time he failed to hit the mark as a Redleg), Arroyo still managed to lead the league in home runs and earned runs surrendered.
The negativity of last year is fresh and overpowering, so let's lay out a rather stunning positive. Did you know that Arroyo ranks 6th in franchise history for strikeout-to-walk ratio? And that he actually improved this metric in 2011, despite striking out just 108? Quite frankly, it's Arroyo's outstanding control that allows him to stay employed, although even in past successful years he's teetered on the edge of anti-glory. In allowing more than 2 homers per 9 innings pitched during the '11 season, the cliff was no longer theoretical.
Arroyo suffered through mono and back pain this year, so there remains a plausible alibi. If it's injury and illness that's causing the long-ball fever, the numbers may very well fall in line. Cut the home run rate to his historical averages, and the ERA gets close-ish to normal. Getting a little more granular, a typical Arroyo year would see 26 dingers instead of 46...the difference would create about a 2.5 win upgrade. Maybe next year. Hopefully next year.
For his efforts, Arroyo creeped from #113 to #111 on the all-time list.
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"creeped"
is definitely the right verb to use for ol’ Bronson
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 9:44 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Bronson won the Reds Good Guy Award
and is approaching Reds HOF status
I’d love to see a bounce back season in 2012. The Reds need 4 pitchers to approach 200IP to be successful, Leake should be able to do that now. Who else?
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by obc2 on Dec 13, 2011 9:54 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I would have given him $2 mil to be the LOOGY out of the pen.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
For a few reasons I ask the question, why?
he has never pitched in short relief.
He also pitched decently enough last year that he can still be considered a starter.
The only way I would sign Willis to be a relief pitcher would be for less than a million dollars.
I am reasonably sure he can be a place holding 5th starter, I do not know if you can expect him to take the mound 70 times a year and get outs.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
It is mainly just because of his numbers against lefties.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I may never visit again.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we will cancel each i other out
I will sign up for a membership!
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by obc2 on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
What an indictment of Reds pitching over the past 70 years
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
by kcgard2 on Dec 13, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Reds have had few "special" pitchers
we have had several star position players though.
I mean when you go back to 1980 the best Reds starting pitchers are Mario Soto, Tom Browning, Jose Rijo, Pete Schourck, John Smiley, Mark Portugal, Dave Burba, Pete Harnisch, Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, Johnny Cueto, and maybe Mike Leake.
None of those guys are even close to Hall of Fame caliber.
Prior to Cueto and Leake, Tom Browning was the last good pitcher the Reds developed, and Brett Tomko was the last pitcher the Reds developed that had any sorta MLB career.
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I'll just say it............
Bronson doesn’t have it anymore and I would move him to anyone willing to take on his contract.
Good luck finding that sucker. Jim Hendry got fired, remember?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
What if he does still have it?
What if he pitches 200 innings again and ends up with another 15+ win, 4ish ERA season? He’s had many more good years than bad. I’m not sure it’s in the Reds’ best interest to get rid of him and get crap in return. Not that that is really an option.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
100% agreed
unfortunately, that contract is untradeable
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Hey Farva, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the wall and the mozzarella sticks?
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
This wouldn't be the first time someone said Bronson "creeped into something.
But, in all seriousness, if Arroyo could rebound and pitch 200 innings of 4.00 ERA ball that would be huge for this team.
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Damnit Walter.
I’m beginning to understand why my parents would get so mad at me for not bringing the herbies back to the garage after the trash got picked up. It’s such a menial, obvious, easy task, so to not do it just makes it seem that much more frustrating.
I guess DoJo really, really better have his shit together in ST.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Not to defend the Reds
but there’s nothing saying he would’ve accepted the same deal/situation from the Reds. Maybe he hated it here? Maybe he wants to win a ring and feels like Philly is the easiest place for that to happen.
And while I’d have been happy with Dontrelle as the LOOGY, it’s not like he was lights out.
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by Slyde on Dec 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You might be right, but you'd think he would have given a flier to the team that gave him a chance.
It isn’t like there were a ton of teams knocking on his door last season.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
and yet he's now on the best team in the NL
Hell, maybe the Reds offered $1.5M, but Willis said he likes the situation in Philly better.
Again, not trying to defend the Reds, but just because a player signed with another team doesn’t mean the Reds didn’t try. Players make decisions one way or another for more reasons than money.
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Agreed, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
NO. YOU HAVE TO LIKE IT.
It’s a requirement here at Red Reporter. If you don’t shape up, we’ll send the emotional control team to your house to reprogam you appropriately.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
Do they bring cookies?
None of this chocolate chip bullshit. I want oatmeal raisin.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
You like oatmeal raisin cookies, and not chocolate chip cookies?
That’s definitely something else for the reprogrammers to work on.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
by andromache on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I like chocolate chip cookies.
However, they will be one of the last I’ll pick from the cookie pile.
What I can’t stand are chocolate chip muffins or pancakes.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Raisins are gross.
Nothing pisses me off more than when I bite into a cookie thinking its chocolate chip, but it turns out to be a raisin. blech.
by Hawkeye00 on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Brownies with nuts
are the biggest disappointment.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Brownies without ice cream or milk is the biggest disappointment.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't wish being lactose on my worst enemy.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't say lactose intolerant.
He just said “being lactose.” Which is a weird thing to wish on anyone, anyway.
by the finest muffins on Dec 13, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
"I wish you were milk!"
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by jch24 on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i giggled.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I want you to come out of tits?
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by andromache on Dec 13, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that is a weird thing to not be sure that you want JCH to do
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
No.
“I wish you were the part of milk that gives people tummy aches!”
It feels so nice to be back to normal
they have to get hamburgers rather than cheeseburgers!
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
brownies without cannabis is THE biggest disappointment.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
1% of the brownies have 99% of the marijuana.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
by andromache on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i do not know why
but this made me laugh.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I'm guessing it's because you are the 1%, at least when it comes to brownie consumption.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
That's racist.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
blech
Pakalolo is a great way to ruin perfectly good brownies.
Someone brought marijuana-laced brownies to the NHS picnic when I was in high school. (It was the class salutatorian, in fact.) He didn’t tell anyone. A lot of people took a bite, gagged at the taste, and threw them in the fireplace. Which of course fogged the whole cabin with marijuana smoke.
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i have actually never had a pot brownie
it is on the bucket list
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, and overrated way to consume the herb IMO.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
what is the best way to get high in a less conspicuous way than smoking?
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Get high on life, man!
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
May I recommend
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
put hash in the tip of a cigarette
other than the smell, it’s inconspicuous.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
This is true.
I used to do the half and half with cigarettes on the way to school in the morning.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Raisins are acceptable but non-optimal.
Home-made brownies with nuts are ok, but nuts are terrible in box-brownies.
ANDRO HAS SPOKEN.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
I like pecans in my brownies.
My gramma makes them that way sometimes.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
brownies are more of a wal-nut thing
pecans go in pancakes and pies.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I concur.
But, walnuts are also good in brownies.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
No nuts at all in brownies
If you want nuts with your brownies, you should add them yourself after they have been baked.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
CORRECT
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
But, then they aren't as good.
If you don’t like nuts in your brownies then pick them out.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, then you miss one and bite into it and its all gross
Fuck that noise.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Ain't my problem!
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't it easier for you to add the nuts later
than for me to have to pick out all of them?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
But, the nuts taste better when they are cooked.
The best policy is to make half with nuts and half without nuts. Or you could just make two different batches.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
We have reached an accord
Success!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I'm such a good diplomat.
I’ll be starting my Congressional campaign soon enough.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
you are over 25?
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I'm obviously going to start off small in the Ohio General Assembly.
I have to assemble my group of followers and haters.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Even though we agree on little
i’ll sell my soul and manage your campaign.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Meh, I'm sure we agree on more than you think.
I’ll pay you in weed brownies, once I bring medical marijuana to Ohio. We all get weed cards!
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think on social issues we probably agree on a lot
on economic issues probably very little.
You are a libertarian I can handle because I can at least see the logic behind your ways.
And I am working to bring medical marijuana to Ohio right now. Depending on our ability to fund raise, we will have medical marijuana either on the 2012 or 2014 ballot.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I can sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
For how much?
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
come to a NORML meeting
help us collect signatures. It could turn into a paid job.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't like rum in your coke, just pick it out
You’re a nut-loving Communist.
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by jch24 on Dec 13, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a friend who's having a party with lots of free liquor!
but all of the free liquor is rum.
CONUNDRUM
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with this feller, no nuts on my brownies please
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
WRONG!
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
It's pretty simple, really
Keep your goddamned nuts out of my brownies, and keep your goddamned raisins out of my cookies.
I want to eat raisins and nuts, I’ll eat some goddamned raisins and nuts. Stop trying to put them in my baked goods.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
while we are on the subject
Oatmeal, peanut butter, and chocolate chips!
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
The only thing that could make these better are butterscotch chips.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
you ever want to eat a bag of chocolate chips?
but all you can find is butterscotch chips, but you say “fuck it” and eat the bag anyways and then feel awful afterwards?
That’s the worst.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
#SecondChinProblems
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
OK, I am passing this one on to my daughter
She is an awesome baker. She sees this, and she will just have to make me some.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
i have made them twice
they have changed my life.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Try
these ones. They have EVERYTHING good!
by the finest muffins on Dec 13, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
They have walnuts. Therefore, they are crap.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
if there's nuts and raisin in 'em
they ain’t your baked goods. Keep your paws off!
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I don't think anybody ever took a bite out of a brownie and said,
“You know what this needs? Some trail mix.”
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
walnuts are gross
I like most nuts, but not walnuts. Too bitter.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Walnuts are like eating wood
Pistachios, Macadamias, cashews, a whole world of tasty nuts out there – who was the idiot who thought to eat a damn walnut?
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think what I really don't like
is that they are so strong. Put walnuts in a cookie, and that’s all you taste. In fact, every cookie in the container, even the ones that don’t have walnuts in them, will taste like walnuts.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
At a better place than you, apparently
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by jch24 on Dec 13, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
there's a bart simpson chalkboard generator
you should google it
tons of fun for me at work
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 14, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
raisins in brownies? absolutely not.
walnuts are ok, but no other nut is.
Optimal brownie is nut-free and frosting-free. I’d prefer frosting to nut, but both just cover up a poor job baking.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
i like my brownies with a crunch and no frosting
we have disagreed.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Frosting on brownies are the worst idea... evah.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I completely agree.
Frosted brownies… WHY?
by the finest muffins on Dec 13, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I don't even really like frosting on cake.
I like my cake in a bowl, covered in milk, and all squishy.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
What the fuck is wrong with you?!?!?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
It is delicious.
The only good frosting is cream cheese frosting.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Cream cheese and butter cream frosting
That is where it’s at.
I like cake in a bowl with milk too, but not as a first choice.
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
Butter cream frosting is the devil, it goes straight to my thighs
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
No no, I wasn't suggesting raisins in brownies - just in cookies.
I’ll put cinnamon and instant coffee in brownies, but no fruit.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
oooo,
instant coffee is actually pretty clever. I still think it’s just to make up for a lack of baking skill, though.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
OHSnap!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dorie Greenspan is my baking goddess. And she has an amazing recipe for brownies with instant coffee.
She also likes to use instant espresso powder.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
could be worse
could be a rat dropping or something.
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I'd smack a small child right in the face for a white chocolate macadamia cookie
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
is that a Hawai'an thing?
every time I’ve had one of those, I’m like “wow, I wish I had any other cookie instead”
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
not sure, all I know is that they're scrum-diddly-umptious
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I seriously took out three co-workers to get the only white chocolate macadamia nut cookie in our Christmas basket
I concur, those things are deee-licious!
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
I'm with Cy
I eat one and I’m like, why is this really not any good? Any different cookie woulda been better.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Agree'd
I like to think I’m a pretty empathetic guy, but for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would ever willingly eat white chocolate.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Me too.
But to be fair, I smack small children in the face on almost a daily basis, so…
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I don't think I've ever had a bad one
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
anyone else ever have this?
wikipedia calls it “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_salami" >chocolate salami" but I’ve never heard that before. I’ve always called it “mosaic cake”. It’s basically a brownie with pieces of shortbread inside.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I had the chocolate salami once, in college
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
So did Raven Riley.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
OMG that's SOOO not true!
Seriously?
We all know I never went to college!
That's what she said!
by Raven Riley on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
speaking of
this is how you write a lede, y’all.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no.
Is THIS why there are over 200 comments in this thread. I guess I’ll know in a minute, but I hope there’s more here than a long argument about cookies.
by the finest muffins on Dec 13, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Red Reporter: But I hope there’s more here than a long argument about cookies.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Red Reporter: Unfortunately, the cookie arguments
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Dec 14, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
There is no argument to be had
Whit chocolate macadamia nut cookies rule the day and anyone who says otherwise is a damned fool and a communist.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
brownies are discussed as well
We can go back to bras and pants talk if you’d prefer…
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
There is also a brief discussion about cooties, STD's, and who is at fault.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
and NYCRedsfan is pissed
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
And water is wet
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I know it's not your birthday any longer..
however, you are still correct
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 14, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Things I wouldn't ever wear if it were up to me.
Discuss.
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so other people decide what you wear?
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The man, Yossi. He keeps us all down.
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socks
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Cookies and cooties; afternoon tea at Red Reporter
I think the funniest part of this thread is that it’s about Bronson, who is mentioned in about two posts.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
I think Arroyo was named after Charles Bronson
So I guess that counts. Okay, six posts!
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
By all means, don't like it
I’m just getting tired of the meme.
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Sorry, couldn't help it.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Also
I know the Reds aren’t swimming in starting pitching depth, but they may not have been willing to give a rotation spot to D-Train, and they may not have trusted him in the bullpen considering he has never done it. I don’t know why everyone is making such a big deal out of losing a pitcher who has put up an ERA of 5.65 since 2007.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
smile and slugging percentage, mostly.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I may be getting suckered into the feel-goodness of the Dontrelle story, but I think he would've signed here if the money was equal
I got the feeling that he really enjoyed his teammates and was grateful for the opportunity. If he had signed for the Giants or A’s I might be more willing to buy that he left for non-financial reasons.
maybe
Maybe the Reds didn’t really make an effort. My point is that just because the Reds didn’t sign him, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they didn’t try. There hasn’t been any indication that they didn’t.
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maybe he becomes superflous because the Reds are targeting a trade for a LHP...
like Gio or Hamels or Glavine or Rannnnndayyyy!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
But they just let Maloney go
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW
Most of my annoyance comes from twitter, where you’d thought the Reds just released their best player. Willis is a good story, but he’s a mediocre baseball player at this point.
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The Reds need the money to sign Ryan Theriot
/ducks
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
I've spent all offseason worried that they'll sign Miguel Tejada
and now I’ve found a reason to HOPE they sign Tejada.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh. You'd really rather have Tejada than Theriot?
Also, why does it seem like all we do here is argue about shitty UT infielders?
Oh, right. Because that’s all Walt ever acquires.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
from a completely superficial standpoint, yes.
Theriot has been a Cub and a Cardinal his entire career, and he played at LSU.
That’s like the holy trinity of teams I refuse to root for.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
he had 0 control over any of that
he was drafted by the Cubs, and traded to St. Louis.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
okay, some control over it
but would you take a year off to not play for the Cubs?
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
and he also picked LSU after growing up an LSU fan.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, his name is Jack Wilson
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
/johnu
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
He was lights out against lefties.
But I think that’s probably the issue. The Phillies probably offered him more than a LOOGY role, or at least the chance to compete for one. I’d guess Walt wasn’t willing to offer that.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
They don't have much in the way of lefties
Lord knows there ain’t much room for him in the rotation. I could see him getting a few starts but ending up in the bullpen.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Are they offering him a chance to start? Or is it just chasing a ring?
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I heard that he'll be a bullpen guy
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Yeah, I don't see them moving their "4 Aces" anytime soon.
and that Worley kid was flat out awesome most of last year.
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets about 5 spot starts next year.
If i were the Phillies I would probably stretch him out in Spring Training, so he can throw 80-100 pitches in long relief/spot starts if need be.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
never bet against a kid named Vance
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
with their rotation
I don’t think they need him as a starter.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I think the Orioles are determined to sign an Asian pitcher.
Chong goes back to Korea, and now they’re close to a deal with Wada talking to Chen as well).
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KLaw reads RR
Law said, “The Reds might be the best off of any team in the division by virtue of doing nothing – and losing nothing.”
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
But, even better if they do something!
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like to believe that - but both STL and MIL had better pitching than us last year. Ours hasn't gotten any better (yet).
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Replacing Pujols with Wainwright ain't a huge drop-off
that’s for sure.
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that's actually Dayn Perry...
but KLaw linked to him!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
that's what they said last year
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Caption:
Bronson: Tag! You’re it!
or
Dusty: Get those cootie infested hands off of me! God knows where they’ve been.
Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.
no way
Dusty is totally doing his impression of Kenan Thompson’s impression of a Bill Cosby caricature.
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Which is pretty much every character Kenan ever does, right?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Kenan
is actually less funny than Horatio Sanz. Hell, he’s less funny than Olmedo Sáenz.
by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Dec 13, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Keenan's All That "Frenchman in a bathtub" still cracks me up.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
It was funny
But watch any SNL sketch he’s ever been in, and it’s the exact same character. It’s ridiculous.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Dec 13, 2011 12:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
What's Up With That?
OOOOOO EEEEEE
What’s up with that? What’s up with that?
by GreatAmericanRedsFan on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
When ever I think of cooties I laugh.
I convinced my four year old cousin that she has cooties. I had to give her the circle-circle-dot-dot shot so she couldn’t spread it to the boys. She wanted to be cured, but I told her it is impossible. I could only keep her from spreading it.
Comparing cooties to an STD = not responsible.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
They do have the daily treatment now that can prevent cooties outbreaks
so you can have plausible deniability when you pass cooties on to your partner.
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Try explaining that to her mother.
She wasn’t very happy.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Not responsible, but hilarious.
Hey, you’re just prepping her for the real world when some asshole in college gives her chlamydia.
by Hawkeye00 on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But, boys don't have cooties.... girls do.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Boys have boy cooties and girls have girl cooties, duh.
That’s not a reflection of cootie gender – they’re different species, obviously.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
Girl cooties are scientifically proven to be much more dangerous
Having boy cooties is more socially acceptable. #Facts
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Your boy cooties make you think that, but they have been programmed to believe in their own superiority.
It is time to reject the boy-cootie built hierarchy and break through the turpentine ceiling!
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by andromache on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At my school only girls had cooties, and they got rock thrown at them until third grade.
Then they eventually started to grow boobs.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
boys had cooties at my schools
They chased you around at recess, and all the girls ran away, so they wouldn’t get them.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I suppose my atheist ways run deep.
I never believed in cooties. I was all about the ladies even in pre-school.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
when i was in pre-school i thought vagina was pronounced fur-china
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
And that's the story of Pops' first Valtrex prescription.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hey man,
My first kiss was at 4. I had a plan. This cute little thing was terrified of spiders so I had my friend (a little roughneck that wasn’t yet into girls) throw a spider on her. When she began to freak out and cry, I went over, killed the spider and consoled her with a hug and a kiss.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
"Losing my virginity means I would've had to have it in the first place."
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
"Now, do a little dance. Slowly."
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't know Charles Bronson was in Manhattan
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
the Woody Allen movie
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
i was thinking of throwing an Annie Hall quote at Pop's
but i went a different way instead.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
preschoolers don't think the opposite sex has cooties
Preschoolers and lower elementary kids often “date,” kiss, etc.
It’s the middle elementary years when the cooties stuff arises.
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I do not think so
unless you are including 4th graders in middle school.
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I said middle elementary
not middle school.
F in reading comprehension!
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But you get an A in bitchiness!
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You really need to stop with the personal stuff, immediately
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by jch24 on Dec 13, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't remember the dating and kissing stuff when I was really little.
At that point all that mattered were matchbox cars and football. Until girls developed they were pretty much invisible.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't remember it either, but I can say that it went on when my kids were in preschool/kindergarten
I don’t know if this is because the world has gone to hell in a handbasket, or because it was the same when I was little, I just don’t recall it. Probably the latter.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
it's the latter
Dr. Spock discusses it in his book, even back in the ’50s and ’60s.
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i remember in 5th grade a new girl transfered to my school
she was really tall and had boobs, and all the boys wanted to talk to her.
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I'm being completely honest.
There was never a time that girls didn’t motivate most of my decisions.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
You sound like you were sooooo jealous
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by BK on Dec 13, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I remember "dating" a guy in fourth grade
Which basically meant that we sat next to each other during school events.
I think cooties were primarily a first- and second-grade thing.
Well, until college anyway. Then cooties took on a whole new meaning.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Caption:
Bronson: “Hey skip, check out the turd cutter on that one. How much you wanna bet I can get her back on the Nasty Hook with fewer than 10 words?”
Dusty: “Ooooooooooooohhhhhh boy, back in the day when I was hitting behind Hank Aaron, he used to give me all kinds of tips on picking up ladies. One time, we were out and we met this set of twins. And ol’ Hank, he told them that we were brothers. And so, you know, one thing led to another, and we brought em back to the motel. And then Hank did both of them. It was awesome.”
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
D-Train to the Phillies, huh?
Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.
Looks that way.
I guess this means either the Reds are counting on making a move for another starter or that Wagon/Wood/Chapman are good enough to duke it out for #5 starter.
Why is P-Doc acting like he was personally victimized at the Crosstown Shutout?
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oh, Doc went to Dubyuhnell?
That is sooo phenomenally unsurprising.
(stereotyping based on alma mater is fun!)
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
really glad I opted not to go there.
I always enjoy when hindsight and foresight see things the same way.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
we went through this, right?
how you and I both almost went there for lacrosse?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
yep, we did.
I heard Stagnitta was kind of a dick, anyway.
Worked out for the best.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
word.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Because he is a self-aggrandizing self-righteous blabbering douche bag who is dumb
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
I love P Docs blog
I think he is a very talented writer. The few times ive met him he has been a pleasure to interact with.
I think RR has a lot of #hatredness.
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by obc2 on Dec 13, 2011 12:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
of course you do
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He might be a pleasure to interact with
but he’s a terrible writer. And that has nothing to do with his wacky views. He writes like an ADD 13 year old.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
...that hates non-white, non-Christian America.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
also:
hates most of white, Christian, America.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he's personally mocked me on the radio and in the paper
so, I kinda got a reason to not like him.
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A couple of years ago
When he did Sports Talk, I was on to talk about Adam Dunn and he was nice while I was on. After I hung up, he started calling me a stat freak and essentially mocking everything I said. Then a year later or so, he interviewed me for an article he was doing about lineups. I gave him stats that actually supported his stance, but he completely misinterpreted my position (mainly because he needed quotes to battle against) and gave me a mocking label.
I didn’t mind the radio thing that much, but the article pissed me off because I was doing him a favor and then he misrepresented what I said. I’ve since helped many of the writers at the Enquirer, but he’ll never get my help again.
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Because P-Doc is an asshole
(This is pretty much the answer to every question that begins with “Why is P-Doc…….”)
In a weird way, that fight was the best thing that could have happened to Mick Cronin. His response (which I do believe was genuine) was much better than Mack’s mealy-mouthed “I’m not a decision maker” BS, and now he has a built in excuse for the team sucking for at least the next 6 games.
Without the fight, he’s just a coach of one of the worst teams in Division I, who hasn’t recruited a single Big East-caliber starter for 2 straight years (soon to be 3 straight).
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Cronin does kinda suck at getting really good players
U.C. is kinda like the Red starting rotation.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
More than that, he seems disingenuous
Taking positions based on what is controversial or what will drum up page hits. I sometimes agree with him but generally don’t take him seriously, especially after treated Slyde.
P-Doc is always the victim,
whether it’s a fight at a basketball game or sushi at the ballpark.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
LIVE ACTION!!!
YIYIYYIIIIIYIIIIIHH YIII!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we could do worse!
but hopefully we will do better as well.
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by RedinWrigleyville on Dec 13, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
surely it's a split contract
Hell, even Jonny Gomes came in on a split contract.
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That's what I was going to say.
Giving him a big league deal seems very, very generous.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
It's got incentives too
I guess Heyman could be wrong, but it sounds like a straight MLB contract.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
could="will have been"
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a little surprised he got an MLB deal
but that’s a point for me in the prediction thread that everyone is monitoring closely.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Damn
I was starting to feel confident that I’d win by virtue of not submitting any predictions.
We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
In HS I saw Brackman shatter my teammates eye socket with a fastball..
Suffice to say his controls problems are not new..
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by RedinWrigleyville on Dec 13, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take anybody who works between 93 and 97 and touches 99
you can learn to throw strikes, you can’t learn how to throw that hard.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
/Sanchez'd
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
/Dirty'd
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Think Brackman has a chance to open the season in the Major League bullpen?
I have never heard of him until today.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
fuck this is what i have been reduced to
being excited over singing free agents with 3 inning of big league experience…
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
There have been plenty of pitchers who throw hard who over time learn some control
there are exactly no pitchers who are soft tossers who learn to throw hard.
Is he likely to gain control? Probably not, but it is possible.
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welcome home!
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
And predictably, the twitterers are convinced this is all Walt is going to do.
When did Reds fans get so cynical?
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I never felt like it was cynicism before, just frustration
I think 2010 followed by last off-season/season jaded people more than the previous 10 years combined.
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I think the tipping point was a result of three things:
The Gomes issue last season, the reluctance to bring up Cozart, and the total inaction at the trade deadline. All three were completely senseless, all three showed Walt to have a dangerous risk aversion. I lost a lot of confidence that the team actually had any sort of plan at that point.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 13, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
not to mention the Cards and the Brewers being really super-duper active.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Fortunately we don't have to worry about that anymore.
Since the Cards lost Pujols and the Brewers lost Fielder and Braun, we can just sit back and enjoy the ride!
by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
That was said in my most sarcastic tone, by the way. I would have used Comic Sans if that were allowed.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 13, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
If you had used comic sans, I would have had to curb stomp your ass
Nothing personal, mind you. I just have to stay in character.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This definitely played a big part
However, I think the team got too comfortable last year. I can see how that leads to fan frustration this off-season, but it seems to me the message is different this off-season than last. Last year truly “we have no money and are talking to nobody.” This year, they’ve been clear that they’re trying to improve via trade. I haven’t seen any indication that this is a lie.
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Agree fully. But it's kind of the nature of fandom that until they actually do something, people will be cynical.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
And then after they do something
people will bitch about it.
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oh now who's the cynical one?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Cynically Cyclical
Sounds like an 80s jazz-rock fusion band album title
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x
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this is accurate I think.
There was largely resignation in the aughts, but last year there was real hope and optimism….which was slowly beaten out of us during the year as we watched both Walt and Dusty make one questionable decision after another (at least in our eyes).
FWIW, I’m not cynical, but I understand where it comes from.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
the complete inaction on the CMM issue pisses me off a bit, too.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Truth. Although I'll give them a small pass, that perhaps they knew what was going to be in the new CBA.
He still should’ve been traded.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
so what's the story? They'll get a end-of-round-1 pick for him?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, a Todd Frazier style sandwich pick.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
So, Jersey Mikes?
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by Slyde on Dec 13, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
such an underrated franchise.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
so delicious
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 14, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
what is that, like a salami, mortadella, and prosciutto with provolone?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
that sounds so awesome right now
I could go for a giant and destroy it
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 14, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
The Walt-Dusty relationship is the most frustrating thing for me
mainly because I think it’s the source of all of last year’s problems. I’ve chosen to remain optimistic that Walt will grow up and just fix the damn team.
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I might say I actually trust Walt less than Dusty.
I think because Dusty is on the front line that he is the first to be blamed. Not a lot of armchair QBs pick on their GM. But I think Walt deserves a whole lot of the blame for last season. Dusty has some odd tendencies, but he was not responsible for many of the worst transgressions last year, which were roster issues, not lineup issues.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 13, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough, but
and maybe this is overly cynical of me, but I think Dusty has a lot of say in roster decisions as well. I know Fay would insist that isn’t the case, but Dusty has as much as said so. That could be him having delusions of grandeur, but I kinda believe it.
I think Dusty insists on keeping struggling players around, for example, long after Walt wants to get rid of them. Janish and Gomes come to mind.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
That could be true, but we just don't know that.
If it is true, then your point is a good one. But typically GMs make roster decisions, and managers make lineup decisions. You could be right, or you could be proving my point that people tend to heap unequal blame on Dusty.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think we know less about what Walt thinks
because he’s deliberately vague, but Dusty goes on record pretty much every game day. Last season, he said/did a range of things that seemed to contradict the sensible moves Walt was making – from rejecting a LF platoon at the beginning of the season to benching Alonso and Frazier after they’d been called up to play.
I would grant, though, that the vast majority of the moves Dusty makes have marginal impact compared to what Walt could potentially do to bring in an impact player.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
And I still it’s Dusty that wanted Cozart up, and Walt that was dragging his feet.
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at first glance I thought this was about Walt Disney
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
so
that means the roster is once again full, right?
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That's another reason for some cynicism.
Some of the rule 5 additions are very puzzling, and a full 40-man further reinforces the assumption that Walt isn’t going to do anything.
We know that isn’t true, esp. since Alonso and Grandal are both on the 40-man, but still.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Because the 40 man can't change now?
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
se it can,
but why fill it up with players that have very little risk of being taken, then expose players like Horst to waivers?
It feels so nice to be back to normal
true, i guess
but I think that is a minor issue.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'd really like to know the story behind the rule 5 additions
I assume Walt knew what he was doing, but why those guys? Were other teams sniffing around? And how is Didi even eligible?
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That series of events continues to baffle me
Especially with how the Rule 5 Draft went (general apathy by other teams and no pick by the Reds) and their apparent lack of interest bringing Willis back. They could have lost Maloney, Horst and Willis, while converting Chapman to starter.
And if they want to sign a lefty FA or add Horst back, they might actually have to outright someone because Villareal and Didi are both on the 40-man.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
did Horst come back yet?
or is he an FA?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
He made it through waivers
But now they’re in the position of having to outright someone else if they want to pick up a backup SS or reliever. I’m guessing the whole strategy hinges on whatever trade(s) are in the works, but it also kinda looks like circling the wagons and just trying to wring out everything from within the org.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Walt
may be expecting to trade a lot of players currently on the roster.
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Anyone else notice that you can't unrec a comment anymore?
I’ll have to start being more conservative with my recs if I can’t take ’em back.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
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by joshuar9476 on Dec 13, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
nope, not true
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by jch24 on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I rec'd this
and now it says “loading…” where it used to say “rec” and I think it’ll stay that way like all mine upthread did.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure this will come as a shock, but SBN seems a little off kilter the last couple of days
Mine did the same thing. Refresh/reload the page and the options return. It’s all weirded up.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Same'd
It’s annoying as hell.
I hope it might have something to do with some sort of update so you don’t have to refresh to see updated rec counts.
But probably not.
Go Colts Dammit!
I'm glad it's not just some problem with my comp.
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i was able to rec and un rec this comment.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
And fwiw, this has been happening to me for about a month
Only way I’ve found you can unrec a comment is to reload the page, then unrec it
Walt's about to put a very tall, crappy pitcher in our stockings.
Andrew Brackman.
Let the rejoicing commence!
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions
And it appears my scoop has already been well-scooped.
I suck at scooping.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of..
He is a free agent too, right?
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
shit, they'll be able to play Xavier closer than the Bearcats did.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think so.
He’d be worth taking a (very cheap) flier on, if he’s healthy.
Which he’s probably not, considering he’s only made 8 starts in the last two years.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
but he's 6'10" and
can catch liners with his face!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
If we can count on him for 4 lights-out starts
That’s worth league minimum.
DO IT WALT DO IT
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
holy shit
i forget there was a brief period that Chris Young was one of the top pitchers in baseball.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
and then he got all Pujols'd in the face
and he’s not been right since then.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Someone get that man some ex lax.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Dec 13, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
He's a spy!!!!
“You wan som cawfee?”
“Dats a ood idea.”
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by Slyde on Dec 13, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this is my favorite thing ever.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Now Fay is saying the deal is not done with Brackman
So, maybe it’s not an MLB deal after all?
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Wait, so you're saying John Heyman might have tweeted something that wasn't entirely accurate?
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Dec 13, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I took the afternoon off of work to apply for 2 jobs.
You people sure aren’t helping anything!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM EST reply actions
i just emailed a cover letter and resume
i even removed all the typos first (i hope).
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Shit... stop depressing me.
It is almost hiring season again.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
for teachers?
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Usually in January and February they start getting retiree notices.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
makes sense
have you had any long term positions yet?
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I have a long term position for the last three months.
One of the teachers is having a baby. I know her pretty well, so I keep joking that she should go on bed rest.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
that should help you a bit on the job market
you actually have real teaching experience, rather than just babysitting experience.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty much relying on it.
Also, my aunt is retiring this year, and she teaches in my field. I have been subbing a lot at that school to get my foot in the door. But, the other problem is the super at that school hated my aunt. She had been trying to push her out the door for a few years. So, if she finds out I’m relation there could be some kind of resentment.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
that seems bad
my district it seems most the teachers are related to other employees in the district, I think that really helps your resume noticed.
I mean honesty I have no idea how to hire a good teacher. I just do not know what you can see on paper that will tell you they will be good in the classroom.
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I'm sure it won't come down to it.
When the job is posted I’m going to personally delivery my credentials. Plus, it helps that all the other faculty seems to really like me.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
also from talking to teachers, they don’t like to hire really good subs, because they are hard to come by. If they know they can use and abuse you as a sub, and you will show up everyday with little notice, and keep order, if they promote you you can be hard to replace.
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So much for taking things seriously and being good at you job.
What a crock of shit.
The thing is if the really good subs don’t eventually get jobs, then they will find something else. It isn’t lack of ambition that keeps someone subbing.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I know subs in my district, who were subs when I was a student
they were the best subs when I was a student, and were passed over time and again for inferior subs who otherwise had similar qualifications.
I mean of course a principal or somebody in the board office isn’t going to tell them that they were passed over for being really really good at their current job, but there isn’t really any other explanation.
Of course my district may be strange. They have had the same super since the George H.W. Bush administration, and almost every administrative hire they make is an in system promotion, rather than finding somebody new and different from outside.
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I love how a "super" is in charge of a school district
But in an apartment complex, he’s just the guy who fixes your toilet.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
In all seriousness, make sure you have no typos, bad grammar, run on sentences, etc. in your cover letter/resume
I can tell you that if I get an application that includes misspellings, poor grammar, etc. it goes straight to the “do not interview” pile.
For the last hire I made (a Sr. Financial Analyst), we received about 100 resumes for the position. The list needs to be culled, so if you look like you cannot communicate in writing, you are pretty much dead.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
obviously
i actually reread my professional writing over and over again and usually ask a friend to as well. The real world doesn’t give a shit that I have dyslexia.
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by Yossarian22 on Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I was only going up against 100 other people.
I think the last interview I got they pulled 25 resumes out of a stack of 400. The only reason I was selected was because they knew my references.
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by BigBabyBruce on Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Make sure you get the name of the organization/school/company correct.
You laugh, but people always want to add a word to my organization’s name. It annoys me to no end generally, but when it comes to candidates for jobs, it shows me they haven’t done their homework and they don’t pay attention to detail (all things I look for in positions I hire for.)
Also, in my opinion and in my field, your cover letter should be specific to the job you’re applying for. There’s nothing I hate more than when I see a cover letter that has nothing to do with the job I’m hiring for.
by the finest muffins on Dec 13, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I actually got a cover letter that was for a completely different job within the same organization
That really reflected well on the candidate.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Dec 13, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I have a basic cover letter with the biographical stuff for this job, as I have sent out a ton of cover letters and resume (even got an interview!) for this type of job
but I still tailor each letter for the specific job.
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That's what I always did, too.
It’s what I recommend to those poor few who ask me (the same person who was unemployed for 9 months not too long ago) for career advice.
by the finest muffins on Dec 13, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
OK, so like 360 comments
and no one is going to ask how Bronson managed to move up the list of all-time Reds with a season that was unequivocally negative by every measure?
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Heh.
I was going to mention the HR allowed leaders for the NL:
Arroyo 46
Myers 31
When’s the last time the HR leader gave up 50% more than the runner up?
1948
And strangely enough, it happened in both the NL and the AL.
Murry Dickson had 39 for the Cardinals. Larry Jansen of the Giants was 2nd with 25.
Fred Hutchinson (yep, that one) had 32 for the Tigers. Bob Feller was 2nd with 20.
The league leader hasn’t actually been over 40% above 2nd place since then. Well, not until Arroyo did it.
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Murray, Larry, Fred, and Bob.
God bless the 40’s and their predictability.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, it's Murry, not Murray
So, it’s like totally different.
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Which is totally what I typed
beforetyped before Steve Jobs guessed wrong.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
I fucking give up.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
/Red Reporter'd
After reading a Drew Stubbs comment exchange.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 13, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Thought that might have been one of Hutch's pitcher-manager seasons
But he didn’t start doing that until 1952, and he wasn’t a full-time starter at that point. Woulda been fun to see Bronson as a pitcher-manager this year. 270 innings, 7.80 ERA, 75 HR.
Not a big surprise that we haven’t seen a pitcher-manager since Hutch (I’m pretty sure).
Win Shares has an absurdly low replacement level
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
technically, there's no such thing as replacement level in original win shares
everybody wins
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Which I would normally be the first to skewer
but if you’re going to do a list like this, the idea of players moving backwards so as to negate accomplishments that are locked in from past seasons is…similarly absurd.
by riverfront76 on Dec 13, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, it's an interesting dilemna
could someone be soooo bad one year that it actually negates the positive contributions from prior seasons? I mean, there’s gotta be the option of if someone is bad enough just give them a zero, you don’t gotta take credit away.
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Let's use an extreme example
Let’s pretend that Yasmani Grandal came up as a rookie and hit 162 HR with 500 RBI in his rookie season, leading the Reds to a WS win. In his sophomore slump, he struck out 500 times, with no power output, while making 150 errors.
Is his career value zero?
by riverfront76 on Dec 13, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
It could be (depending on the value of those events)
But the more important issue is that players both contribute to wins and to losses. Since we don’t have loss shares, that’s why replacement level was created. We need some indicator to tell us if the guy did more harm that good, and that’s valuable within a season and over a player’s entire career.
Another example. Pitcher is lights out one year and his team makes the playoffs. Every body comes back and has the exact same year, except for the pitcher, who is awful. Team misses the playoffs. How do we evaluate that pitcher? Only on the good year?
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I understand the need for loss shares
But a higher replacement level doesn’t take their place. It still creates a single number to answer life, the universe, and everything (which will obviously fail in some regard).
I could set replacement value to be a .100 team, or a .300 team, or . 500 team. It’s still just an artificial construct.
Were I a GM, I wouldn’t evaluate a player in such a low-replacement context. But for a list like this…I think it makes more sense.
by riverfront76 on Dec 14, 2011 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
I'd prolly say it's half of the value of the 1st season
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