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I usually buy a book of true ghost stories around Halloween every year.  This year, I got this one.  It's sort of a sequel to Haunted Baseball.  I ended up really busy at the end of October/beginning of November, so didn't get to read it before Halloween, but I'm reading it now. 

It has a section on Scranton, PA, and the Radisson Lackawanna Station Hotel.  That's the hotel where AAA teams stay when they come to play SWB Yankees.  It used to be the town's train station, and has a reputation for being haunted.  Many players who usually room alone arrange for roommates when they're playing in Scranton, and won't stay on the fifth floor, rumored to be the most haunted.

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Gary Majewski wanted to see a ghost, and would wait up at night, flashlight in hand, but never had any encounters.  Joe Crede and some of his Charlotte Knights teammates went ghost-hunting on the third floor, which is also supposed to be haunted. They felt a temperature drop, heard loud creaking noises, and bolted.  The Reds' one-time second round draft pick, Dane Sardinha, swears he saw a ghost in his room; it walked around his bed and sat on the foot of his bed.

The hotel management insists that there are no ghosts; it's just ballplayers playing pranks on each other.  Some of the hotel staff disagree, but there have been a lot of pranks there.

Andy Abad says that an unnamed rookie on the Pawtucket Red Sox had a genuine ghost encounter.  He came running out of his room, saying that a ghost had lifted his bed up and slammed it down.  Abad went into the room and saw impressions on the floor showing the bed really had moved. 

Abad then used that incident to "prime" his victims for pranks.  Usually involving hiding in rookies' rooms with fishing line, and using it to cause lamps to fly, curtains to rustle, and doors to open, seemingly on their own. Followed by rookies leaping out of bed and running out the door to demand a new room.

The next year, he was a Louisville Bat, and Jeff Bannon was his target.  He made sure to tell Bannon the story about the moving bed well before they traveled to Scranton.  He also got Bannon's roommate, Chris Denorfia, to help.  Denorfia gave Abad his room key and went to dinner with Bannon. When they got back, Deno told Bannon he was going to have a drink at the bar before turning in, leaving Bannon to go up to the room alone.  Bannon opened the door to find it pitch black and freezing cold (thanks to unscrewed lightbulbs and an air conditioner cranked up to the max).  The water was running in the bathroom.  When he finally got a light on, he saw chairs stacked on the bed, a cigarette burning in an ashtray, and a glass half full of beer on the table.

Bannon now says he knew it was a prank and wasn't scared.  His teammates say he was really upset and freaked out, and the hotel staff say he was panicked.  Bannon claims he was just pretending to be scared.

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it seems to be mostly baseball players who think it's haunted

Though there was a local writer who made that claim as well.

It does seem to be well-known as a haunted hotel among baseball players. When the Yankees first announced they were moving their AAA team to Scranton, Kevin Thompson, then a Columbus Clipper, was asked what he thought. He commented on the rural setting (he said he’d seen deer in the outfield) and on how the train-station hotel was supposed to be haunted.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 25, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yes!

The Pfister has a reputation, too. I’m not sure whether to take BP seriously or not, but he said in another article that he didn’t sleep too well because of the ghosts.

Though Haunted Baseball claims the most haunted baseball hotel is the Renaissance Vinoy in St. Petersburg. It’s where the visiting teams playing the Rays stay. Ghost Hunters did an episode there.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 25, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey BubbaFan

aren’t you an atheist?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

What has that got to do with the price of penus in Peoria?

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by BubbaFan on Nov 25, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

can ghosts exist for athiests?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

cann't they?

/vole’d

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Nov 25, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

go die in a fire

/me’d

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i am sorry

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

it's theoretically possible, I guess

But liking ghost stories isn’t the same as believing in ghosts. I don’t actually believe mentioning a no-hitter can jinx it, either.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 25, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

But to me

it would seem that there would need to be a god for their to be ghosts.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 26, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

how so?

Buddhists believe that there is no god, but they do believe the soul survives after death.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 26, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That was clumisly worded

to put it better, I believe that believing in ghosts but not believing in God is intellectually problematic. If you do not believe in God, usually due to a lack of any credible evidence anywhere that there is a god, the same would have to be said for ghosts.

Also Buddhists due believe in spiritual forces which effect the world we live in, most atheists do not.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 26, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

generally speaking,

people can believe in what they want to believe in, picking and choosing as arbitrarily as they choose.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

practically speaking

You are correct. Most atheists don’t believe in ghosts, holy or otherwise. :-)

However, I could see situation where ghosts wouldn’t necessarily have to involve spiritual forces. If, for example, “paranormal” phenomena is just that – outside of current scientific understanding right now, but ultimately understandable and measurable by science.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 26, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ghosts have nothing to do with religion.

Believing in a soul (or believing that weird stuff exists that we don’t currently understand with our three-pound brains) and believing in an all-knowing, all-loving, omnipresent, judgmental creator of the universe who determines your eternal afterlife are quite different things.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 28, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm

A myth is a myth is a myth.
Mary Magdalene was sure she saw a ghost.
So were those other guys the bi-cycles…Pete and Tom and James and Lance and…

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Nov 28, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

As an athiest my problem with this line of thinking is

I would think the idea of a soul and a ghost extends passed the known and scientific world, into an unknown world that seems at least Godly, if not with an all knowing omnipresient creating. At the very least an outside suppernatural force.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You lost me at "seems at least Godly."

I do not believe in an outside supernatural force. I believe that there are things that occur naturally, even hauntings, that are completely natural, but seem unworldly to those with narrow views that are based on prayer books from thousands of years ago.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 30, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Until scientists can find any evidence of a person's soul or even energy outside of the body

to me that is supernatural and is in a similar realm as god.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 30, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Because if scientists don't understand it...

…with current technology, then it’s magic.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 30, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps better stated:

We don’t completely understand anti-matter and black holes yet. I don’t think of them as Godly, just as I would not think of electricity or plastic as Godly in the 1690’s.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 1, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Godly....

Oh…Arthur Godly…he had a radio show in the 1950’s

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand that reasoning at all

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 28, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I see you clarified below

I don’t believe in a higher being, I just…..don’t. I don’t know how I feel about ghosts, I would normally say I don’t believe in them either but I’ve had a bizarre experience that made me feel otherwise.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 28, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting discussion.

I don’t believe, as some do, science is the enemy of Christianity. Science and Christianity, or other religions as well I suppose, often offer the same answer — “I don’t know … yet.” Both think they eventually will reach a conclusion. As a Christian, I believe that if science advances far enough, it can’t help but come to the conclusion that there is a God, a Creator.

As for ghosts, if one shows up at my house he’s paying rent or getting out.

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by Thundering Turtle on Nov 29, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think the opposite

Well, I don’t think science and religion have to be enemies, but I do think the nature of science is such that it will never have anything to say about whether there is a god or not.

There are some questions that only religion can answer, and some that only science should answer. Render unto Caesar, and all that.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 29, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

are you an athiest highlifeman21?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 30, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't

This conversation has been civil and productive so far. Don’t go stupiding it up.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 3, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I've never been a fan of Republicans tending to blend religion into politics

thus the religious right

however, once you get pretty left of center, that’s where you lose me in the world of politics, so I’d rather dance with the Devil I know, rather than the Devil I don’t

and I don’t know the left

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 3, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

reasonable.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Dec 3, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably not.

If science advances far enough, however, as a Christian I have to believe that’s the inevitable conclusion.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Nov 30, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm the opposite

I believe religion exists, but not god. :-)

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by BubbaFan on Dec 2, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Atheists unite!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Dec 2, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

if you're an atheist

Believers think you are as untrustworthy as a rapist.

This is particularly true for “religious believers who think that people behave better if they feel that God is watching them,” explained the study’s co-author Ara Norenzayan.

“While atheists may see their disbelief as a private matter on a metaphysical issue, believers may consider atheists’ absence of belief as a public threat to cooperation and honesty.”

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by BubbaFan on Dec 2, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

As a believer, I would think that God would be more pleased

with non-believer that is genuinely good than with a believer who is only good because they think God is watching them. But I really don’t think following Christ is about being “good” anyway. For me, it’s about having a relationship with Jesus that changes me for the better and it’s about loving other people, all people, the way Christ loves — sacrificially and without an agenda. I think many Christians try to “convert” other people because then they feel like THEN they are allowed to love them, as if we can only love people we agree with.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is that like anarchists unite?

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And dyslexics untie!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 2, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, religion exists and I think it sucks

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I find myself more and more apologizing for the behaviors of my so-called "fellow Christians."

It’s sad, and a tremendous disservice. I’m with Turtle here.

"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

by ZJiff30 on Dec 2, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll be honest, I dislike 90% of "religious" people I meet

Because they pick and choose which parts of their religion they believe in, letting their personality shape their beliefs instead of the other way around. It’s hypocritical and intellectually dishonest, and I don’t have a lot of use for people like that. I’m a militant agnostic with a ton of sinnin’ under my belt but I also have a heart and feel sympathy and empathy for my fellow human and I try to do right by the world. If there really is a heaven, I’ll take my chances.

I have a handful of devout people in my life that I like and have the utmost respect for because they walk the walk and use common sense to apply lessons from a book thousands of years old to modern society. You and TT fall into that group. Don’t give up the good fight fellas, you’re about the only hope that demographic has left before the world starts shunning you for the actions of a ridiculous minority.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 2, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, this is the weirdest baseball blog I've ever seen.

I like it though.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oops, posted this in the wrong spot

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If you had used "stuck" instead of "posted", I would have rec'd the hell out of you

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 2, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I've learned you have to choose your words wisely on this blog

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

motherfuckinrightpartner

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Dec 2, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You haven't seen anything, wait until we start talking about high speed rail as a public transortation option

We’ve had some really great discussions about religion, as well as the Ohio anti-smoking ordinance (it’s bullshit, we all agree), racial and socioeconomic inequities and the systemic discrimination that fosters them, and other wonderful topics.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 2, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

So much better than the usual "Fire Krusty" comments

on other blogs

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay for smoking bans!

#imallergic

#loveyameanit

"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

by ZJiff30 on Dec 3, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

zjiff is the beast

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Feltersnatch?!

I hardly even Knewersnatch!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 2, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Bangor Lumberjacks? I hardly knew her lumberjacks!

I can’t believe they passed on the chance to name the team the Bangor Beavers or Bangor Andleavers.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Dec 2, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It's fun to read these never-ending threads

but I’m not getting any other work done.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Macon, GA had a team for a while.

I think they either used or seriously considered becoming the Macon Bacon. The internet choice was clearly to become the Whoopie, though.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Dec 4, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec this man!

He chose a worthy comment to worship!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

God has a huge PR problem

because of his followers.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

INSTANT CLASSIC

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's a quote from a fellowed a Christ-like path:

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mohandas Gandhi

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Dec 3, 2011 6:01 AM EST up reply actions  

err thats from a fellow that followed...

(Christ on a hubcap…I cannot type)

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Dec 3, 2011 6:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Pfister?

I hardly even know her!

by FordhamRam on Nov 25, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I knew someone would say that!

Although I thought it would be Howie Feltersnatch

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Nov 25, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

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