Field of Screams
I usually buy a book of true ghost stories around Halloween every year. This year, I got this one. It's sort of a sequel to Haunted Baseball. I ended up really busy at the end of October/beginning of November, so didn't get to read it before Halloween, but I'm reading it now.
It has a section on Scranton, PA, and the Radisson Lackawanna Station Hotel. That's the hotel where AAA teams stay when they come to play SWB Yankees. It used to be the town's train station, and has a reputation for being haunted. Many players who usually room alone arrange for roommates when they're playing in Scranton, and won't stay on the fifth floor, rumored to be the most haunted.
Gary Majewski wanted to see a ghost, and would wait up at night, flashlight in hand, but never had any encounters. Joe Crede and some of his Charlotte Knights teammates went ghost-hunting on the third floor, which is also supposed to be haunted. They felt a temperature drop, heard loud creaking noises, and bolted. The Reds' one-time second round draft pick, Dane Sardinha, swears he saw a ghost in his room; it walked around his bed and sat on the foot of his bed.
The hotel management insists that there are no ghosts; it's just ballplayers playing pranks on each other. Some of the hotel staff disagree, but there have been a lot of pranks there.
Andy Abad says that an unnamed rookie on the Pawtucket Red Sox had a genuine ghost encounter. He came running out of his room, saying that a ghost had lifted his bed up and slammed it down. Abad went into the room and saw impressions on the floor showing the bed really had moved.
Abad then used that incident to "prime" his victims for pranks. Usually involving hiding in rookies' rooms with fishing line, and using it to cause lamps to fly, curtains to rustle, and doors to open, seemingly on their own. Followed by rookies leaping out of bed and running out the door to demand a new room.
The next year, he was a Louisville Bat, and Jeff Bannon was his target. He made sure to tell Bannon the story about the moving bed well before they traveled to Scranton. He also got Bannon's roommate, Chris Denorfia, to help. Denorfia gave Abad his room key and went to dinner with Bannon. When they got back, Deno told Bannon he was going to have a drink at the bar before turning in, leaving Bannon to go up to the room alone. Bannon opened the door to find it pitch black and freezing cold (thanks to unscrewed lightbulbs and an air conditioner cranked up to the max). The water was running in the bathroom. When he finally got a light on, he saw chairs stacked on the bed, a cigarette burning in an ashtray, and a glass half full of beer on the table.
Bannon now says he knew it was a prank and wasn't scared. His teammates say he was really upset and freaked out, and the hotel staff say he was panicked. Bannon claims he was just pretending to be scared.
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it seems to be mostly baseball players who think it's haunted
Though there was a local writer who made that claim as well.
It does seem to be well-known as a haunted hotel among baseball players. When the Yankees first announced they were moving their AAA team to Scranton, Kevin Thompson, then a Columbus Clipper, was asked what he thought. He commented on the rural setting (he said he’d seen deer in the outfield) and on how the train-station hotel was supposed to be haunted.
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Same with the Pfister Hotel in Milwaukee
http://www.wisn.com/r/19586075/detail.html
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yes!
The Pfister has a reputation, too. I’m not sure whether to take BP seriously or not, but he said in another article that he didn’t sleep too well because of the ghosts.
Though Haunted Baseball claims the most haunted baseball hotel is the Renaissance Vinoy in St. Petersburg. It’s where the visiting teams playing the Rays stay. Ghost Hunters did an episode there.
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yup
What has that got to do with the price of penus in Peoria?
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by BubbaFan on Nov 25, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
can ghosts exist for athiests?
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
cann't they?
/vole’d
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
by -ManBearPig on Nov 25, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
go die in a fire
/me’d
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
that is not a very nice thing to say
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
by -ManBearPig on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
i am sorry
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
by Yossarian22 on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
it's theoretically possible, I guess
But liking ghost stories isn’t the same as believing in ghosts. I don’t actually believe mentioning a no-hitter can jinx it, either.
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Believing in a creator spirit is not the same as believing in undead human spirits.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Nov 26, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
But to me
it would seem that there would need to be a god for their to be ghosts.
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
by Yossarian22 on Nov 26, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
how so?
Buddhists believe that there is no god, but they do believe the soul survives after death.
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That was clumisly worded
to put it better, I believe that believing in ghosts but not believing in God is intellectually problematic. If you do not believe in God, usually due to a lack of any credible evidence anywhere that there is a god, the same would have to be said for ghosts.
Also Buddhists due believe in spiritual forces which effect the world we live in, most atheists do not.
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
generally speaking,
people can believe in what they want to believe in, picking and choosing as arbitrarily as they choose.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
practically speaking
You are correct. Most atheists don’t believe in ghosts, holy or otherwise. :-)
However, I could see situation where ghosts wouldn’t necessarily have to involve spiritual forces. If, for example, “paranormal” phenomena is just that – outside of current scientific understanding right now, but ultimately understandable and measurable by science.
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Ghosts have nothing to do with religion.
Believing in a soul (or believing that weird stuff exists that we don’t currently understand with our three-pound brains) and believing in an all-knowing, all-loving, omnipresent, judgmental creator of the universe who determines your eternal afterlife are quite different things.
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
by PeteyHendrix on Nov 28, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
As an athiest my problem with this line of thinking is
I would think the idea of a soul and a ghost extends passed the known and scientific world, into an unknown world that seems at least Godly, if not with an all knowing omnipresient creating. At the very least an outside suppernatural force.
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
by Yossarian22 on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
You lost me at "seems at least Godly."
I do not believe in an outside supernatural force. I believe that there are things that occur naturally, even hauntings, that are completely natural, but seem unworldly to those with narrow views that are based on prayer books from thousands of years ago.
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
by PeteyHendrix on Nov 30, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Until scientists can find any evidence of a person's soul or even energy outside of the body
to me that is supernatural and is in a similar realm as god.
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
Because if scientists don't understand it...
…with current technology, then it’s magic.
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
by PeteyHendrix on Nov 30, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps better stated:
We don’t completely understand anti-matter and black holes yet. I don’t think of them as Godly, just as I would not think of electricity or plastic as Godly in the 1690’s.
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
Angels & Demons explained it perfectly for me
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 2, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand that reasoning at all
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I see you clarified below
I don’t believe in a higher being, I just…..don’t. I don’t know how I feel about ghosts, I would normally say I don’t believe in them either but I’ve had a bizarre experience that made me feel otherwise.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
That would be old 'creds, master of the flute
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Interesting discussion.
I don’t believe, as some do, science is the enemy of Christianity. Science and Christianity, or other religions as well I suppose, often offer the same answer — “I don’t know … yet.” Both think they eventually will reach a conclusion. As a Christian, I believe that if science advances far enough, it can’t help but come to the conclusion that there is a God, a Creator.
As for ghosts, if one shows up at my house he’s paying rent or getting out.
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by Thundering Turtle on Nov 29, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the opposite
Well, I don’t think science and religion have to be enemies, but I do think the nature of science is such that it will never have anything to say about whether there is a god or not.
There are some questions that only religion can answer, and some that only science should answer. Render unto Caesar, and all that.
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so science will eventually prove the existence of God?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
are you an athiest highlifeman21?
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
by Yossarian22 on Nov 30, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
I am Agnostic
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yet you vote for people who use jesus to justify apocalyptic policies. Hmm
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
Don't
This conversation has been civil and productive so far. Don’t go stupiding it up.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 3, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've never been a fan of Republicans tending to blend religion into politics
thus the religious right
however, once you get pretty left of center, that’s where you lose me in the world of politics, so I’d rather dance with the Devil I know, rather than the Devil I don’t
and I don’t know the left
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 3, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Probably not.
If science advances far enough, however, as a Christian I have to believe that’s the inevitable conclusion.
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by Thundering Turtle on Nov 30, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I looked out tonight when I came home from working in the studio and the stars were incredible.
The issue is not God.
The issue is Religions.
Religions go out of their way not prove the existence of God/Soul etc.
They would have one believe on faith.
I have yet to have the existence of faith proven to me.
However I have had the existence of fraud and war and pedophilia and class-ism proven to me by observing the activities and results of most religions.

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
by Madville on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I agree
God and religion have very little to do with each other and yet many (most?) people feel the two are one in the same. Religion is a man-made entity that fails miserably at trying to define the undefinable. I believe in God but not in religion.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm the opposite
I believe religion exists, but not god. :-)
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by BubbaFan on Dec 2, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if you're an atheist
Believers think you are as untrustworthy as a rapist.
This is particularly true for “religious believers who think that people behave better if they feel that God is watching them,” explained the study’s co-author Ara Norenzayan.
“While atheists may see their disbelief as a private matter on a metaphysical issue, believers may consider atheists’ absence of belief as a public threat to cooperation and honesty.”
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As a believer, I would think that God would be more pleased
with non-believer that is genuinely good than with a believer who is only good because they think God is watching them. But I really don’t think following Christ is about being “good” anyway. For me, it’s about having a relationship with Jesus that changes me for the better and it’s about loving other people, all people, the way Christ loves — sacrificially and without an agenda. I think many Christians try to “convert” other people because then they feel like THEN they are allowed to love them, as if we can only love people we agree with.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
by darthmom on Dec 2, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is that like anarchists unite?
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Yeah, religion exists and I think it sucks
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Hard to argue with that.
Religion often gets in the way. It often is divisive. The Creator of the universe doesn’t need man-made doctrine, choir robes, crystal cathedrals and the like to assist Him.
Casting Crowns’ song “What This World Needs” does an excellent job of explaining this, if anyone cares to take a listen.
I encounter a great many tremendous people in the church. The folks such as those my buddy Maddy describes, however, tarnish them. The recent story of a church in Pikeville, Ky., that bars interracial couples from attending services is an example. People see or hear that and think, “I don’t want anything to do with a God that is racist.” Who can blame them. Satan throws a party and God gets the blame.
I’m a chaplain, so obviously you know where I stand. Give me, however, the atheist who feeds the hungry over the pompous believer who does nothing.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 2, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I find myself more and more apologizing for the behaviors of my so-called "fellow Christians."
It’s sad, and a tremendous disservice. I’m with Turtle here.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
by ZJiff30 on Dec 2, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll be honest, I dislike 90% of "religious" people I meet
Because they pick and choose which parts of their religion they believe in, letting their personality shape their beliefs instead of the other way around. It’s hypocritical and intellectually dishonest, and I don’t have a lot of use for people like that. I’m a militant agnostic with a ton of sinnin’ under my belt but I also have a heart and feel sympathy and empathy for my fellow human and I try to do right by the world. If there really is a heaven, I’ll take my chances.
I have a handful of devout people in my life that I like and have the utmost respect for because they walk the walk and use common sense to apply lessons from a book thousands of years old to modern society. You and TT fall into that group. Don’t give up the good fight fellas, you’re about the only hope that demographic has left before the world starts shunning you for the actions of a ridiculous minority.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
By the way, this is the weirdest baseball blog I've ever seen.
I like it though.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
oops, posted this in the wrong spot
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
If you had used "stuck" instead of "posted", I would have rec'd the hell out of you
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I've learned you have to choose your words wisely on this blog
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
You haven't seen anything, wait until we start talking about high speed rail as a public transortation option
We’ve had some really great discussions about religion, as well as the Ohio anti-smoking ordinance (it’s bullshit, we all agree), racial and socioeconomic inequities and the systemic discrimination that fosters them, and other wonderful topics.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
So much better than the usual "Fire Krusty" comments
on other blogs
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Ha!
As if “we all agree” on anything!
by the finest muffins on Dec 2, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Groupthink about the Ohio anti-smoking ordinance!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Christ in a hog pen....
not trains again….
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
ding ding ding, here comes the crossing guard!
"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone
speed up before it gets all the way down!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 3, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yay for smoking bans!
#imallergic
#loveyameanit
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Feltersnatch?!
I hardly even Knewersnatch!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 2, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bangor Lumberjacks? I hardly knew her lumberjacks!
I can’t believe they passed on the chance to name the team the Bangor Beavers or Bangor Andleavers.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
It's fun to read these never-ending threads
but I’m not getting any other work done.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Macon, GA had a team for a while.
I think they either used or seriously considered becoming the Macon Bacon. The internet choice was clearly to become the Whoopie, though.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Rec this man!
He chose a worthy comment to worship!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
God has a huge PR problem
because of his followers.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
kinda like the Cubs
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by BubbaFan on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Here's a quote from a fellowed a Christ-like path:
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mohandas Gandhi
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
err thats from a fellow that followed...
(Christ on a hubcap…I cannot type)
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
I knew someone would say that!
Although I thought it would be Howie Feltersnatch
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Feltersnatch?!
I hardly even Knewersnatch!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 26, 2011 10:01 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 5 recs

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