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Trade Rumors: Say "Hanigan to Anaheim" three times fast

Well, don't I feel like a cad.  A few weeks ago, I made up a rumor out of the thin air because, as the saying goes, "the Reds have no money and are talking to no one."  Things were boring and I was bored, so I figured it would be fun to have something to talk about for a few hours.  Since then, though, the rumor mill has been churning out some high quality product for us to chew on.  We're chewing on mill products now?  What are we, beavers?

Last night, word got 'round that the Angels, who are searching for a catcher after trading away the World Series MVP in THE WORST TRADE EVER, are making schmoogly eyes at the Reds over Ryan Hanigan.  The Angels sorely need a catcher and the Reds have them in spades, so it makes sense that they would sit down over a cold glass of chihuahua piss - or whatever it is those weirdo Californians are drinking these days - and have a discussion.  Or maybe it's all just made up.  Whatever though, let's have that conversation for them.  Just for the heck of it.

If the Angels want Hanigan, who do we want in return?  The Reds have made no secret that Priority #1, which has long sense been a right-handed bat (we had a long and fruitless journey scouring the internets for them a long time ago), this off-season is starting pitching.  The Angels have enviable depth in this department, so perhaps we can make something work.  I've made no secret over the years that I'm positively blue balled over Dan Haren.  In his seven full seasons in the bigs, his worst single-season fWAR is 4.0.  Dude is more reliable than Bronson Arroyo and soooo much better.  He's one of the best pitchers in baseball, actually.  And he's only 31!  Now, normally any such pitcher would be completely ridiculous to discuss in trade talks, but newly-minted Angels GM Jerry DiPoto has a history of selling Haren for pennies on the dollar. A year and a half ago, when he was the interim GM in Arizona, he sent Haren to the Angels for what amounted to a mid-rotation starter, a top-75 prospect, and two C-level prospects.  Perhaps he hasn't learned his lesson?  Maybe we could nab him for Hanigan, Homer Bailey, and Yonder Alonso?  I know, I know, I'm saying such crazy things.  But what if...

More realistically though, the Angels do have some decent young arms that could be had.  Ervin Santana has been mentioned a few times around the internet as a guy they could move this winter.  He's good and kind of expensive (he'll make $11.2 mil this year and has a $13 mil option for next).  Certainly, Hanigan alone wouldn't be enough to get him, but I think the Reds could build a decent package around Hanigan to make it happen.  

Star-divide

If the Angels are unwilling to part with their established talent and the Reds are interested in cost-control, guys like Trevor Bell and Tyler Chatwood could pique interest.  Bell will be 25 and has been something of a swing man the past few years, shuttling between the majors and AAA and the bullpen and the rotation.  He keeps the walks down and gets a decent number of strike outs, and even got a strong number of ground balls last season.  He's definitely not the top of the rotation help the Reds need though, so I'm not really that excited about him.  As for Chatwood, on paper he looks like a strange bird.  Next year will be his age-22 season, so he's moved through the minors very quickly.  He hasn't pitched like a fast-mover though, giving up tons of walks and not getting tons of strikeouts.  Maybe there's much more here than the numbers show, but as an outside observer who has checked his B-Ref page and his FanGraphs page, I'll pass.

If I'm Walt Jocketty though, the Angel I target is Jordan Walden.  He served as the Angels closer this past season and tallied 32 saves with a 2.79 FIP.  He was a starter in the minors until 2010 when they moved him to the 'pen.  It's possible that he could be shifted back the rotation, but I'd be just fine with keeping him in the 'pen.  As with Haren and Santana, it would most likely take more than Hanigan to get him, but a pre-arb closer who can rack up the strike outs is definitely something the Reds could use.  

As the original rumor says, if the Reds move Hanigan they would probably try to re-sign Ramon Hernandez to serve as Devin Mesoraco backup and mentor.  But realistically, it makes much more sense for the Angels to sign Hernandez themselves and let him mentor their top catching prospect, Hank Conger.  This seems the most likely scenario to me, but the possibility exists for us to get Dan Haren and that would be just so incredibly snackers.  

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I was way above the target age demographic for that movie

But I enjoyed it anyway.

Danny Glover for president.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 23, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hope the Reds do not trade Hannigan for Trevor Bell or Tyler Chattwood

just so they can resign Hernandez.

If the Angels really like Hanigan and Hanigan can be part of a bigger trade, awesome. But otherwise let him serve as the back up for the next few years.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

And what about Grandal?

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If both players come close to reaching their potential one of them will be gone in 2 years.

Meso and Grandal’s talent suggests both are two good to not be the primary catcher.

Really the only way this doesn’t happen is if the Reds decide the weaker defensive catcher of the two is good enough to play first base so he either replaces Votto if Votto leaves via free agency or they trade Votto to allow both bats in the lineup, this also assumes the Reds think Alonso is acceptable in left field.

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by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough two believe.

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by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean i wouldn't be shocked if i went with to

but the fact that I went with the lesser written two is strange. I wish my mistakes had more order and predictability…

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Simplify your writing... use more numbers

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Nov 23, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Off to pandora to listen to the Prince station....

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Went to YouTube instead

Kickin’ this little gem right now.

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

A Hanigan/Alonso package deal should be able to fetch something pretty good

LAA seems pretty set at DH/1B/OF though. Walt needs to get a three-way going.

by ken on Nov 23, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Haniheim Steamroller?

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Clutch Mouse Monie?

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by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Disney's Hanifornia Adventure!

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't really make sense to trade Hanigan at this point.

He’s going to be cheaper than Hernandez, so trading him means getting somewhat similar production in Hernandez, but for more money (and fewer years of control).

So the question is, would the return be worth it? I’m not really sure what to make of Hanny’s trade value. On one hand, a proven MLB catcher with good defense and excellent OBP skills should have a lot of value, especially when said player is under control, relatively cheaply, through 2014. But is that worth a good starter, or even a very good prospect? I kinda doubt it.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Depends how big your fantasy league is.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Having said that,

Walden has more perceived value for sure, since closers are overvalued, but a straight swap of the 2 wouldn’t be too unfair. The Reds would have to throw in a non-elite minor leaguer or 2, but that would be somewhat reasonable I think.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Closers are overvalued until the one for your team sucks

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It does seem like Hanny is the type of catcher that Scoscia would covet.

I would love to see some analysis on which of the beat writers have the highest percentage of correct rumors. It seems like a lot of these “rumors” are just writers throwing made up stuff on Twitter to get people all worked up, and then nothing ever comes of it.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I tend to think the national guys, particularly Rosenthal and Olney, only report things when they hear them from someone

More likely to me is that the “team official” is someone trying to drum up interest in one of their players by reporting another team’s interest in them.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It's tough when even good reporters get solid rumors from the GM themselves...

…only to find out later that they were misled and used.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don't care a bibble if these rumors are misleading or made up or whatever

It’s November and it gives us something to talk about. And it makes the conversation just a twinge more legitimate than sitting at the bar with your buddy and saying, “Hey, wouldn’t it be cool if the Reds could get Clay Kershaw?”

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

"The Reds have no money and are talking to no one."

This applies to everyone.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

in this case, THANK GOD

No need to have Chucky singing the national anthem here.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

that position is filled

Nick Lachey has it covered.

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by bbjones on Nov 23, 2011 10:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope Clay doesn't fist him.

I mean, fight him.

#powerbottom

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFY - Gotta watch that grammar, dude!

him and Ruben Studdard can do a duet

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by PeteyHendrix on Nov 28, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Something to talk about you say?

What’s your favorite holiday side dish, Chuck? I vote for sweet potato casserole (pecan topping version) in a close race with the classic homemade mashed potatoes and gravy.

Also, I’ll be a heretic and say that I prefer a well-prepared ham over turkey most of the time.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

HAM!!!

I will eat a nice ham 10 times out of 10 if it’s an option. I don’t care for turkey that much.

Best side-dish would be either sweet taters, homemade noodles, or stuffing. Stuffing would be the run away winner, but it’s so inconsistent. Depending on who makes it, it can be best thing ever or sucks thing ever.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on the stuffing, at some point my dad started making stuffing with raisins in it which sucked

How do you like your sweet taters? With or without marshmallow?

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Without. Pecan topping is a must.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Neither

Just a touch of maple syrup.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, are you talking whole or casseroled?

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

well not whole, but cut up chunks

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

You can bake them whole like a regular tater too, and I’ll eat the hell out of that. Mix up a little brown sugar and butter and put that on ’em.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, that's my side if available when I order steak

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Double high five!

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

AKA "the White Five"

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by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We all agree?

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You're still here?

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And queer

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

when groupthink gets it right!

sweet potatoes are delcious, prepared multiple ways

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Nov 27, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you eat sweet potato fries like french fries or under something?

If my choice for something to go with a burger I go with french fries, but sweet potato fries are awesome under various types of meat and sauces.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll eat them either way

there are tons of varieties of dipping sauces for them.

i like bbq sauce or marshmallow dipping sauce.

i also like the cinnamon brown sugar dipping sauce.

by 'tHan on Nov 23, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Have any of the burger tour stops served sweet potato fries?

They’re the best with a burger.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sammy's might have

I’ve had garlic, feta, and regular fries so far.

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

they are becoming pretty popular

much like fried pickles they are starting to be carried by a lot of restaurants.

barnsburg tavern has some extremely good ones

by 'tHan on Nov 23, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't go to a burger place around here and not fined them on the menu

Y’know, cause we’re all hip and trendy and shit.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Justin'd

Ugh

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dilly Deli has good sweet potato fries

with apple butter dipping sauce

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

oh god

I have a thing with apple butter. I can’t have it because if I start eating it, I will eat enough to make myself sick.

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd like to enlighten her

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Nov 24, 2011 9:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

that actually sounds fantastic.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubed, actually

You can casserole them if you like, in which case I prefer marshmallows to pecans.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotcha

I don’t think I’ve ever had them with maple syrup, my family growing up always drowned them in butter. Come to think of it, they drowned everything in butter.

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with this feller

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the ham.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean i agree on the ham

i am not insinuating that Charlie Scrabbles is a ham.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Skyhaven Ham made here in Cincy

is totally the snaxxx

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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

really

like should i order one for Christmas?

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by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a little pricey, but totally worth it.

Go with the bone in variety, natch.

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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I like my mom's stuffing

Bread-based, with clams in it.

Don’t care for sugar, marshmallows, or syrup on my sweet potatoes. Too sweet. Might as well put grape compote on hamburgers.

My mom used to boil sweet potatoes plain as a snack for us. Those were good. Especially the purple ones. Cold, out of the fridge.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

my grandma makes a broccoli casserole

That might just be the most delicious thing ever. But in general, a good stuffing is haaaaard to beat. Creds, I’m diggin that recipe too.

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by UncleWeez on Nov 24, 2011 12:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

but a hard stuffing is good to beat.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 24, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a strong choice

But if you can make those yeast rolls into a nice stuffing…look out.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i really enjoy stuffing

unless people want to put stuff like liver in it. those people should be smacked

by 'tHan on Nov 23, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't make stuffing

but isn’t it made with turkey broth?

does that make it not vegetarian?

by 'tHan on Nov 23, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Toast chunks of bread,

Then sauté onion, celery, mushrooms if you like them, and fresh sage and thyme in butter. It makes the whole house smell nice. Then dump in a bunch of veggie or chix stock and more butter. Then dump all of that over the bread, and bake it. Awesome.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This just made me realize

I won’t be eating that dish tomorrow for the first time in years. That makes me sad.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm making cornbread stuffing tomorrow

never made it before, but I have high hopes.

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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds like a winner as well.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

IME, cornbread stuffing is pretty tasty

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

cornbread dressing with oysters

is a southern classic.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds delicious to me,

but I’m going to my grandparents house tomorrow, and they are pretty anti-seafood. I’m either putting goetta or sausage in it.

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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I can send you the recipe if you want

/whathasRRcometo’d

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Where can I buy an RR oven mitt?

And can we please put up some images that I can decoupage onto my recipe box?

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Buy one? No way, Jose!

Sounds like a job for the RR Sewing Circle!

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 23, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a turkey roaster that cooks a 20-pound bird in 90 minutes.

I cook it upside-down so that all the juiciness flows to the white meat. And I aggressively baste it every 20 minutes.

Juicy, moist, flavorful turkey is amazing. Add gravy and moist stuffing…look the fuck out, Darnell Coles!

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Like it owes me money!

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What's the difference anyway

I thought you were going to be pantsless and alone tomorrow.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Nov 23, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured we needed something to "discuss fervently"

I will end up having a Thanksgiving dinner with my wife, kids, and maybe a handful of others on Saturday so I’m not completely missing out on the holiday.

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Prime Rib > Ham > Turkey

knowledge dropped

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Nov 27, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? He seems a lot like the defense-first, lunchpail-toting type of Catcher that Scoscia was and covets

Also, both have career 99 OPS+s built on high walk rates.

I’ve heard around the internet that Scoscia doesn’t care for Conger’s defense but I don’t know if that’s the case.

by ken on Nov 23, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

We have an embarrassment of riches behind the plate

I think Hanigan would start for approximately half the teams in the league.

The question is, how to get maximum value (on the field and in trade) out of Hanigan, Meso, and Grandpa.

Need more data out of the two young guys, but we need a starter right freaking now. I don’t envy Walt’s job.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 23, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ANAHANISAPELTILTONHEIM

The Halos would have to make this deal. Just think of the merchandising!

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 23, 2011 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

No habla Hanglish.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He sure looks uppity.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This is the most agreeable RR has been in months

We should talk about holiday food more often.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Don't make me hug you to spread the holiday cheer

(and by holiday cheer, I mean crabs)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure my crabs have a higher wOBA than yours

And no, I do not have any facts to support my position. It supports itself. Unlike your mom’s saggy boobs.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 23, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Which are supported by the roughest parts of my tongue.

And the tongue of Roger Ebert.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

x

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by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Lady Ugh-guh

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 23, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy New Years!

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by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What is the worst thanksgiving meal you have ever had

In 2005 I ate airline food beef.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

I can't remember the year, but the first year back at my dad's after I left

Between college and the Air Force, I hadn’t been home for Thanksgiving in a while, and during that time he had gone all health nut weird with his cooking. I choked down a plate of crappy turkey and the aforementioned raisin/grape stuffing before bolting and stopping at a fast food joint on the way home.

The coolest Thanksgiving I’ve had was in 1996 in Hawaii. I was 19 years old and 5,000+ miles away from home so I spent it with friends at one of our older/more established friend’s house. We started watching football and drinking beer around 7:30 in the morning, ordered pizza around noon, then played football in the late afternoon. Damned good times with good friends.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Your second story is close to my favorite

The Marching Band at ONU took a big international trip in the odd years and I spent Thanksgiving 2007 in Beijing, and me and several friends spent our last day in China drinking, going to museums and other cultural events, had dinner at a place that put huge amounts of food on a lazy susan and we ate excellent food, before spending the evening bar hopping and flying back to the states the next day hungover as shit.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst Thanksgiving was '06 in England

Their food sucks. We bought a turkey and ruined it, so we got some pre-fab turkey foodstuff at the last minute. They don’t sell canned pumpkin so we had to buy our own and cook it the old fashioned way. We didn’t know what we were doing. The English don’t know how to make applesauce, so that sucked. Everything was really complicated and difficult and it was our first Thanksgiving in charge. It was so much work that we didn’t really get to enjoy anything.

My Thanksgivings as a kid were spent running from one family’s house to another, sometimes three or four in a day. My parents were divorced, so there were many different sides of the family. Also, all of my grandparents were divorced. So it could never really be that bad. If you weren’t having a good time, just wait an hour or so. You’ll be somewhere else and it might be better.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I haz a sad

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We spent 2 Thanksgivings in England

And you are correct, both in that the food sucks, and it that it is very difficult to find good Thanksgiving foods there.

Still, that was the first time we ever cooked the meal, for 13 folks, out of our tiny kitchen.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Thanksgiving is probably my favorite holiday

so if I’m ever stuck eating a terrible meal, I’ll be making the face of that emo girl up there.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Nov 23, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to England one thanksgiving when my sister was studying there.

Our hotel gave us mini pumpkin pies and jack daniels. That was alright.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 23, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That would have been much, much better

than bad turkey and bad pumpkin bread. And bad applesauce. At least the beer was pretty good.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I've ever had a really bad Thanksgiving meal

I remember eating Thanksgiving dinner at a Hyatt hotel restaurant once. A friend and I were on vacation in Chicago. She got the Thanksgiving buffet, but I ordered off the menu. Don’t even remember what I ordered, but it wasn’t turkey or ham. Probably seafood, since I like it but don’t like to cook it.

Then one year I was home alone (work commitment, so I couldn’t travel anywhere). I don’t really like the traditional Thanksgiving foods, so I got Chinese takeout. It was good, but I found I missed the usual turkey, stuffing, and mashed potatoes. Especially since they kept showing it during the football games. Ever since then, I have more traditional foods on Thanksgiving, even if it’s roast chicken and Stovetop.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my favorite things about being from white trash stock

Is I’m rarely disappointed by a meal.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 23, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Lufthansa Airlines beef is disapointing

what was more disappointing was they ran out of chicken and pasta by the time they got to my seat.

#firstworldpains

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Everything's good after soup beans and fried bologna sandwiches

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

what's wrong with fried bologna sandwiches?

My mom made that for lunch for me every day until I was in high school.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I made green bean casserole from scratch for the first time this year!

I’m so pumped. /youallcare

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Nov 23, 2011 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

I thought about making a green bean casserole

But I’m afraid I’d be stuck with the leftovers, and those fried onion thingies don’t look like they’ll reheat well.

So instead, I’m making Green Beans and Bacon. It’s a recipe meant to be cooked in a fireplace, but I’ll be using a slow cooker instead.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

cooked in a fireplace?

What? Is this recipe from the 1800’s?

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Nov 25, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

well...

yes.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 25, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

High five!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Really great call, cinnamon apples are wonderful

I think I might have a problem with anything covered in cinnamon and sugar.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

good on you

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 25, 2011 12:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

good on you

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 25, 2011 12:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

so

Anyone watching the 2011 Plays of the Year on the MLB Network?

No. 62 was that play where Cozart threw the ball home off-balance, and Hanigan somehow scooped it and held on as Nyjer Morgan crashed into him.

I’m gonna miss Hanny if he’s traded.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Me too

I really doubt he gets traded, though. He just makes too much sense as a back up.

Seriously though, we need to reverse the particle flow. You know, cross the streams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

I’m not playing crossfire with you!

They just showed a bunch of this year’s brawls, and ended it with BP “crashing” into Geovany Soto and hugging him. “Brandon Phillips and Geovany Soto do it right.”

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

are you watching Ghostbusters on VH1?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

And I’m pretty drunk. Thanksgiving drunk, even.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

heheh, Thanksgiving drunk

When I worked in radio we had a designation for “Fireworks drunk”. It was a special level reserved for when the people involved in putting on the show finally got to blow off steam and got completely obliterated without recourse. Oh, the stories. I punched a naked man in the ass in the back of a limo one year. Good times.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still walking with a limp

You jerk

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Nov 24, 2011 12:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   2 recs

a donkey

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by jch24 on Nov 27, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He's a really valuable trade chip at a prime postion where we have an excess of talent

I love him but I would be absolutely cool with trading him and letting Ramon walk, with Corky as the backup until Grandal is ready to be the other head of the badass catching hydra.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather keep Hannigan and trade Meso or Grandal

Meso or Grandal well obtain more on the market than Hanigan. Hanigan as the back up plus whomever the Reds get for Meso or Grandal is better than Grandal and Meso playing 50/50.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry man, but that is absolutely insane

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

no it isn't

how often do you see two young very good catchers on the same roster? Both are young so they should each be able to play 130 games. 130ish games of Meso/Grandal and 30ish of Hanigan, and whatever the Reds can get from whomover they get for Grandal or Meso is more valuable than 80ish games of Meso and 80ish games of Grandal.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

You always hold the ace, just in case

The Reds are one bad home plate collision from having a contender willing to give the world for Yasmani.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So you want to hold on to both for 6 years of team control?

and I am not in a hurray for the Reds to trade either one, because they should also make sure both of them can hack it.

But if Grandal or Meso can get get the Reds the pitcher they need I wouldn’t think twice.

Also if Hanigan can be part of a deal which gets the Reds the pitcher they need, I would do that and let Corky back up Meso this year.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It's kind of a Catch 22

 [really]

They can’t have both of them on the big league club at the same time if they both stick at catcher, but getting rid of one of them before you have seen what each can do at the MLB level is quite risky.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If Paul Janish could get us a bag of balls I wouldn't think twice

It all comes down to what someone’s offering of course, but it had damned well better be worth it if they’re trading Meso or Grandal because even if they can’t hack catching one can surely move to 1B and hit like a fool.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 24, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

both may not be able to hack hitting

top MLB ready prospects do not always become top MLB players.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 24, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

crolfer missed it

A praying mantis attack!

Holy cow, that’s the biggest praying mantis I’ve ever seen.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

According to Wikipedia, they make great pets.

Chinese mantids are one of the more popular mantises in the pet hobby. Chinese mantids in particular make great pets, and need little care. Anywhere between a two and a half and a ten gallon tank or small-screened cage will do. One cricket about every other day is all they require for nourishment. Mantids drink by lapping up dew from leaves, so a gentle misting every other day or so will suffice. After being handled a few times, the mantids will allow handling without objection as long as you move slowly. Being docile by nature, a mantis will often stay perched on a houseplant, bedrail, or piece of furniture for hours at a time, cleaning themselves and keeping a careful watch for the slightest movement, and so can be allowed out of the cage under supervision. Mantids are watchful, curious, fastidiously clean predators and will even eat wet catfood if offered to them on forceps.

Clay Hensley should have taken her home!

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I've kept a mantid as a pet before.

After my vinegaroon died. It wasn’t as good as Vinnie.

by crolfer on Nov 23, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ack

It looks like a scorpion.

Doesn’t look near as friendly as that praying mantis.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Whipscorpion

Surprisingly docile. It’d climb into my hand all the time.

by crolfer on Nov 23, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Dat Dude

They had a list of players whose plays have been featured so often they deserve co-host credits. BP was #1, with 19 appearances.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

blech

The second half of the show had way too much Cardinals in it.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

slow down

it is only 10:30…

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take a pass

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 23, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

you and Chuck are both sissies

you only live once

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Nov 23, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

my fave comment of the day

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 25, 2011 12:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

my fave comment of the day

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 25, 2011 12:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

doesn't sound all that good to me

But then, I don’t like White Castle.

I might try it if someone made it, but no way would I actually make it myself.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

probably just your inner pot-head

that looks and sounds turrible

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Nov 27, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The new CBA

Apparently, it means there will be some doubleheaders on the schedule, and teams will be allowed to have 26 players on the roster for those games.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

it is time for roster expansion

I do not know when rosters expanded to 25, but that was obviously before the time of 5 man rotations being a necessity rather than something to pick up the staff when guys are dragging in the dog days of summer, and 7 man bullpens.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 23, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see rosters expanded, too

The specialization of the bullpens – closers, long men, LOOGYs, setup guys, etc. – means there aren’t enough position players.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 24, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

specalization is an issue

also starting pitchers do not amass the innings they use to.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 24, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Hanigan with prospects should get a really nice haul

I think he is at a sell high point.

Their GM surely wouldn’t trade Haren twice…or he might and try and make it a good trade this time with a haul of better prospects.

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Nov 24, 2011 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

hanigans value is at its all time peak right now. and since we are in position 3 sign clutch man monique if we want this would be a real opportunity if somebody wanted all fresh a starting pitcher for a really nice piece of art basel.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 25, 2011 1:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Auto-correct: art basel = a piece of our puzzle.

Not THIS Art Basel:

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 25, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

my blackberry had that too.

I never said anything about it since the Reds are still looking for a right handed bat…4 years later!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 25, 2011 9:34 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Disorder

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