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That was my thought, too. Pujols looks pretty good in these clips.

It’s kind of awesome, actually, to see the ump signal safe every time Pujols turns and looks at him.

by the finest muffins on Nov 17, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was more kidding.

I was playing the card that the 1B needs to scoop those throws every time. Theriot would be an elite defender if Pujols would just scoop the throw.

/sarcasm

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 17, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The6iot

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

And he has a WS ring

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

i should probably flag myself for bringing that to your attention

but i’ll save that for later tonight, if you know what i mean.

by Heeringa on Nov 17, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Soundtrack by Paducah, KY's own Boots Randolph

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Nov 17, 2011 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Hey iPhone folks, I have an ignorant question

How do you get the % Power left thingy to show up next to the battery diagram?

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

Buy the newest iPhone

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I did. I can't figure out how to get it set up that way.

I suppose instead of asking you jerks I should just look it up.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

bwahahaha, suffer!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I did. Thank you, non-jerk.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

you are welcome

something i’ve had trouble getting used to with apple is the settings app. i always want to try to make changes to apps from within them

by 'tHan on Nov 17, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

Changing apps from inside the app always seems easier. But sometimes you have to change stuff from settings AND inside the app.

#1stWorldAppleProblems

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank Steve Jobs.

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 17, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What no granola-banana-yogurt-ladyfood smoothie today?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Peanut butter sammich

banana and apple.

And why don’t you grow a beard before you start calling me a girl, huh?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Apple is evil.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, they're not killing people for one

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You sure about that?

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I can't be 100% sure that tech companies, other than apple, are killing people

But the point is that Apple is killing people and killing people is evil. So by transitive relation Apple = evil

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

By killing people?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic

Apples – the fruit – are often called “the broom of the system” because they are full of fiber and are good at cleaning out your pipes.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool, I did not know that

I learn something new everyday!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, they most certainly are evil

I just think other tech companies (and mega-corporations in general) are probably guilty of similar types of things.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

These days, it's really a matter of picking the evil that is less horrifying

What I find horrifying is everyone carrying around Apple products.

So I will continue to use my Creative Labs mp3 player from 2004 and my dumb phone and try to give as little money to monsters as possible.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I applaud your actions

I have way too many Apple products in my house

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I have none

Not because of some moralistic stand though……Apple shit is expensive, yo.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Which one, old or new? Is it still under warranty?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I won't own another old one, I've decided

Didn’t get enough use out of the features to justify playing with fire when it comes to the solder.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

I told myself I wanted the old style for backward compatibility, then realized I owned exactly two PS2 games.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I am on the market for a new laptop

and once again I am doing the I am going to finally buy a mac this time.

While I know Toshiba makes good stuff, I have spent a lot of time with a buddy who has an iPhone, Macbook, and Apple TV, and the way everything works together is pretty fucking cool.

But I am guessing when it comes down to it I will see I can get a similarly powered Toshiba for several hundred dollars less and buy it.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

how much for your iPad?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not jerking your chain

depending how things I go I may be interested in it in a couple of weeks.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I have none because I find it stupid to pay the ridiculous prices.

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 18, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I use to feel that way about the iPod

I had a Walkman MP3 player which broke after like 6 months. I paid more for the iPod but the quality is great, and I like all the featurs.

The only thing I don’t like is that I can’t easily remove songs from the iPod to my computer, and that my iPod cannot be a backup for my computer.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 18, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

at least you can get the battery replaced now

Originally, once the battery died (sometimes in as little as 18 months), Apple expected you to throw the iPod out. And buy a newer, better one, of course.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 18, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was Google or Facebook

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, I don't think their marketing is that

It’s more like “Those guys are stuffy and old fashioned, look how cool we are!”

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Because cool people have more money

And can afford Apple products.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

(this was a joke, btw)

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Damned teacher unions

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever,

I followed Slyde’s lead and let my Mrs. be my sugar momma. Mrs. Creds makes way more than me.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I am intrigued by your ideas

and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's a great gig.

It allowed me to apply for a university gig yesterday that would mean a 20K a year pay cut.

#ouch

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...

a pay cut from being a public school teacher?

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Nov 17, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

Believe it or not, public universities pay less than public high schools.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this fulltime and tenure track?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

yes and yes

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we'll see.

It’s kind of a longshot, mostly because they want someone with a completed doctorate. But they also want someone with experience in a bunch of different random areas that I happen to have experience in (who knew “rooting jch’s mom” would ever be valuable work experience?).

So we’ll see.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No idea, but I doubt it.

LI schools pay remarkably well. And even if this does have a higher ceiling, it’d probably take me 15 years to get there.

Really, I just don’t trust that I’ll even have a job next year, given the anti-tax fervor gripping our state. That, and it’s always been my endgame to get into post-secondary work, so this is a good entry point.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't blame you

i have discovered that secondary kids kinda suck.

If anything I would take a cut in pay for college just to be able to lecture without having to worry about disciplining my class.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong, I love my current job

I’d stay here for a long, long time if given the choice. But I’m not going to be given that choice, I don’t think.

The tax cap our lovely state recently passed has been passed in similar forms in 2 other states: California and Oregon. And good luck finding public school music programs anywhere in those 2 states.

I figure if I don’t get this, I can probably hold on here 1 more year, which is fine. If I do get it, I have some job security for a while.

Also, it’ll free up time to do some projects I’d like to work on, which would also hopefully lead to a bit of income.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That sucks

I couldn’t (and do not want to) imagine my high school experience without jazz band, marching band, and pit orchestra.

They were all such great experiences.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

My high school experience had none of those things, did I miss out?

(please note, I have zero musical talent)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 18, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd say maybe you did.

I mean, part of the value in those things is being part of something bigger than you, so being on a sports team or something similar achieves a lot of the same effects.

But of course, as a music teacher, I think the music activities are far superior :-)

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by nycredsfan on Nov 18, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

the disappointed girl was in the marching band!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 18, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

This is how it was in Ohio before Kasich was elected... well at least for Social Studies.

I was really worried. They were eliminating Social Studies in the state testing, and getting rid of three of the six standards. Pretty much they were phasing it out to an elective, and we all know what eventually happens to electives. When Stickland was voted out that all ended.

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 18, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

For realz?

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 18, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep for realz.

I remember my senior year of college was pretty scary. None of us expected to get full time teaching jobs right away. But, the real fear was getting a job then the jobs being reduced by the state.

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 18, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It would be nice to just be able to kick kids out of class.

Plus there is very small parental backlash in college. But, if you do things like me you don’t give a shit anyway.

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 18, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought RR catchphrase day was yesterday!

"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

by ZJiff30 on Nov 17, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all bad

You just have to choose your masters wisely, while you still have the choice.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Apple products are idiot-proof

A lot of people are idiots.

It was a great way to know their audience.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a very good point.

And I say this as one of the aforementioned idiots.

Also, a lot of people like their things to look pretty, and most PC based stuff definitely doesn’t

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

I just made the comparison of Apple/PC and Wii/PS3 today.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting.

Interesting because I’m a complete Apple fanboy but I really dislike the Wii. But love the PS3.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

High Five!

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree completely with your complete agreeance of this

That was a disgraceful performance, in my opinion. We threw that game, we gave it away. We gave them the fucking game. In my opinion, that sucked. What's that? Playoffs? Don't talk about--playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs?! I just hope we can win a game!

by Ram27 on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely not more powerful.

You just have to pay more for equivalent power on an Apple product.

Also, the same old qualifiers about Macs being way better for graphics, design, music, etc. still apply.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I should have been more clear

When I say more powerful I mean for the amount of money you spend on an Apple product you can expect a more powerful PC for that price.

The price angle doesn’t hold up quite as well in the Wii/PS3 comparison but it’s close.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Just ask Adam & Eve

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought this referred to something else

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

me too!

/dildo’d

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

one so far...from me

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Nov 17, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

everyone loves Dale Sveum

He’s supposedly about to become the Cubs manager, and the Red Sox are bummed, because he’s the one they wanted.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 17, 2011 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Were they going to eat him too?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good luck to the Red Sox

After the way they treated Francona I would imagine they’ll have a rough time finding someone decent, talent and payroll or not.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It's hard to say which fanbase is full of more jerks.

But given what I hear over talk radio when I’m in the hardware store, I’d say it’s hard to beat the Red Sox fans.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Nov 17, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston fans, in general, are some of the worst in any sport

Patriots, Sox, Bruins…

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I do like Bruins fans, with them you get the feeling that it is very heartfelt.

The other teams – Red Sox and Patriots in particular – have developed a tremendous bandwagon fan base. So while I like the old timers who stuck with the Sox through thick and thin, the vast majority of the fan base can be very obnoxious. Still, a Red Sox game at Fenway is probably the greatest sports event I have ever attended.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Nov 17, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

At least with the Cubs job the expectations aren't as high as in Boston

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Nov 17, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to see one of these for Manny Ramirez.

I laugh every single time I see him cut that throw from the wall off in the middle of LF.

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Nov 17, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Raul Ibanez takes the cake, I always thought.

I couldn’t find the one from his Mariners days. Just this beauty, but this is a good collection (beware: gifs) of his Phillies woes.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet it was FordhamRam, that asshole

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

twasn't me!

I’m on RR mobile, bitches! I can barely type, much less delete!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 17, 2011 1:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

You fit right in!

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Nov 17, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Was it me?

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope wasn't you either!

/meta

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

?

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but I might be able to find some pics of her, if I haven't deleted them all

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's really funny you should say that

I randomly came across the episode of Chapelle Show last night where he was doing the game show “I Know Black People” and one of the questions was “What is a chickenhead?”

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You should buy a lot.

Any time anyone gets disagreed with, they’re a martyr!

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

x

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Nov 17, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

First they came for the nycredsfans,

and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t an nycredsfan.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Nov 17, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What got deleted?

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Nov 17, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

your dignity

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh. This was a third place team.

And then they struck gold with Berkman. We could have had him instead.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure what that would've done

Or if he even wanted to come to Cincy

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Who knows, but point is, everyone thought he was toast

Except for those stinking red birds.

If we had 1/10 of their success with reclamation projects and washed up vets, I’d be 9/10 less irritated all the time.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's fairly certain Berkman in LF all year would've been preferable to what we had.

But I also remember hearing that he specifically sought out the Cards and asked them to sign him.

Jerk.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How many other fielding reclamation projects have had success with the Cards?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of it is savvy trades for vets

Will Clark in 2000
Woody Williams in 2001
Tino Martinez and Chuck Finley in 2002
Chris Carpenter in 2004

I could keep going but it’s really depressing.

They’re just really assholishly smart bastards.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Note: many of those are FA signings and not trades

But you know what I mean. They are great at identifying cheap vets to put them over the top.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see their success with pitchers easier, considering the wizardry of Duncan

I guess I’m just not that sold on their fielding reclamation prospects.

I mean the Reds have gotten some good value from Cairo over the last couple years.

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor wording on my part

I should have said… great success with pitching reclamation projects and from hitting vets at the end of their careers.

Either way, they kick our ass in both departments.

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha...thanks

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

So we've had as position player reclamations:

Cairo
Ramon
Hairston
Rolen
Hamilton*
Keppinger?
Hatteberg
Aurilia

by ken on Nov 17, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

True, I guess we've done pretty well there

Unfortunately……..

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

We've had tons of failure on reclamation projects, too:

Corey Patterson
Willy Taveras
Jonny Gomes
Jim Edmonds
Micah Owings
Mike Lincoln
Russ Springer
Josh Fogg
Gary Majewski
Mark Bellhorn
Rheal Cormier
Eddie Guardado
Victor Santos
Todd Hollandsworth
Tony Womack
Cody Ross
Ryan Franklin
Joe Mays
Dave Williams

And this list only goes back to 2006.

A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart

by PeteyHendrix on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

well, you're gonna swing and miss a lot with reclamations.

I’m sure somebody’s done a study, but one team’s Mark Bellhorn is another’s Felipe Lopez.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

and lest we forget the indomidable Joe Randa!

Also Rich Aurilia and Scott Hatteburg!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 17, 2011 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Randa was pretty decent for us

And then we traded him for Travis Chick and Justin Germano. Ugh.

Should have traded Aurilia while he was having his last good year.

Hatteberg was, well… he was ok, but he killed Joey’s shot at the HoF by being in the damn way.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I was about to say that Hatteberg was one of the only bright spots on that '07 team

but I looked and holy hell, that team could hit.

BP-.816
Hatteberg-.868
AGon-.793
EdE-.794
Dunn-.940
Hamilton-.922
Griffey-.862

It’s really a shame the pitching had to show up a couple of years late.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also crazy how much the run-scoring environment changed in 4 years

Gonzalez’s .272/.325/.468 was good for a 99 OPS+

In 2011, .250/.322/.413 earned you the same designation.

I know people don’t want to admit that steroids had a very large effect on the game, but the evidence is certainly indicating otherwise.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

But I don’t think the full effects of the testing and punishments were seen immediately.

Shoot, we know Manny was juicing as recently as the beginning of this year.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yore seriously a moran.

Actually, I have no idea if correlation=causation in this case, but it seems that it takes more blind faith to believe otherwise.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not faith, hombre

It’s science. There is no evidence that steroids lead to more slugging.

I understand the simplicity of the “more steroids = more power = more home runs” narrative, but there is no evidence beyond the anecdotal that it’s true.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there significant evidence that it isn't?

And the antecdotal evidence is both significant and plentiful.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

So why the sudden decrease in run scoring environment?

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be any number of things

Slight alterations to the balls, for example.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, you're clever

Has anyone ever told you that? That you’re clever? Because you are so clever! Gosh, I don’t know if I’ve ever met anyone as clever as you are. I mean, I know some pretty clever people; one of them even wrote a book. But you…wow, you are like the most clever person in the whole entire world, probably!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Is this snark?

Prepare to get rec’d!

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what

I’m sorry. That was really out of line. I don’t want to contribute to all that. Seriously, my apologies.

Also seriously, check out that link. I’m re-reading it again and my mind is blowing all over again.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care, I enjoy it. I'm just saying, sassing me is the easiest way to go green!

And you are probably the most sincere person on this site. I’d say you have license for a few sarcastic moments :-)

And I read the site. I don’t know, I still think there are a few “faith” assumptions behind some of their assertions.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yessir

there’s gotta be some middle ground, I think. The effect of PEDs may be overstated in general, but that doesn’t mean it’s nonexistent either.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Nov 18, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a hard time believing that steroids have nothing to do with the power surge,

but I’m curious and printed that article you linked.

I do think there are several other factors that contributed to the power surge, and not all of them are conspiracies like juicing the ball. Expansion and the new wave of ballparks are a couple. Bill James has also mentioned that the hitters of the ‘90s were the first generation to have grown up widely using aluminum bats, which encouraged guys to swing with power even on outside pitches when they’re trying to go opposite field. I’ve also heard from announcers that the high strike was more commonly called before the ‘94 strike, but I don’t know if that’s true.

by ken on Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Very true, should've mentioned that

Barely anyone in baseball lifted weights in the ’70s. The tricky part is figuring out how much of the power surge to attribute to better training/diet and how much to the ’roids.

by ken on Nov 18, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

but that doesn't explain the drop in power

after the ’roids era.

Players surely aren’t turning into couch potatoes all of a sudden, are they?

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by BubbaFan on Nov 18, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

No

but even the slightest alterations in the production of baseballs or bats or differences in strike zone umpiring or changes in ballpark dimensions can have massive effects on the game. It’s dramatically over-simplifying the matter to say “it was the ’roids”.

Especially since steroids do nothing to increase hitting power.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 18, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not completely true

While steroids don’t directly increase hitting power, they do enable the person to work out more vigorously, adding muscle mass, thereby increasing hitting power.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 18, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Right.

This is my thought. Steroids allow guys to train harder without breaking down, which becomes increasingly significant in one’s 30s. I’m not sure how else to explain a whole slew of mid-30s ballplayers hitting 30+ homers, when now almost no one does that after age 34.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Nov 18, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the part I don't agree with.

You are making all kinds of assumptions about what could have changed things, when we don’t really know if any of those things actually happened.

What we know for certain is that steroids were a huge part of the game in the 90s and early-aughts, but now they likely aren’t.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 18, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

And you are assuming steroids increase hitting power

when all the science concludes that increased upper body muscle mass doesn’t lead to more power.

Now, the injury recovery argument is a good point. But to tell the truth, I struggle to see how that’s a bad thing.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 18, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

There's also lower body mass

And we’re not discussing the morality or ethics of it. We’re discussing whether steroids had an impact on power numbers. I still think there is significant evidence that they did.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 18, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

if lower body mass = power

Brett Wallace would have hit a zillion dingers by now.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 18, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you can really trust the science on this issue

For the same reason you can’t trust nutritional science. For a variety of reasons, it’s impossible to do truly controlled experiments on human beings.

Do you have to be a big guy to hit home runs? I’ve wondered that a long time, and am still not sure. The scouts and coaches seem to think so. Power hitters in recent times have been mostly big guys. But Hank Aaron was a scrawny guy in his playing days.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

injury recovery

What if you recover from injury faster, but risk bad side effects, or a shorter lifespan in the long run?

Actually, what I find most interesting is not ’roids but HGH. One of the reported effects is much better vision. Not a big deal for most athletes, but boy, would that be an advantage for a batter.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 18, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say "it was the roids"

I’m saying if you want to point to better training as the reason for the power surge, you also have to explain why said power surge has faded. Either the training has gotten worse, or it’s not better training that’s the cause.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 18, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Steroids by themselves do not make you stronger or increase slugging

Steroids plus work ethic lead to more physical strength, which leads to more slugging.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

So they are throwing the ball faster, hitters are hitting it harder

Seems reasonable there’d be more homers.

I wonder, was 1990-2007ish a big strikeout era too?

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Without doing any statistical research of any sort,

Pedro, Unit, and Clemens all broke strikeout records.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's kind of my unscientific hypothesis

You had all these roided up ragers throwing heat at all these roided up ragers constantly swinging for the fences.

So there were a ton of Ks but when guys made contact, look out.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Where were you when Scrabbles was making fun of me???

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Nov 17, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I was about to say

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

nyc don't got my back :(

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Nov 18, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

We are still totally name buddies. K all the way!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 18, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

common

I know he’s not the world’s best hitter, but he doesn’t strike out that much.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 18, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Having a name buddy is pretty dang sweet

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Nov 18, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

/looks around for other biblical names

/comes up empty
/sulks

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 19, 2011 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

One of my best friends in high school

named his first-born after you. So there’s that.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 19, 2011 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a biblical first name!

I don’t think it’s the same as yours, though.

by the finest muffins on Nov 19, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you Neftali?

I always thought Gad should stand a comeback.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 19, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, I'm in the Gospels, not the Torah.

I personally think there should be more Zilpahs and Bilhahs in the world.

by the finest muffins on Nov 19, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it's a name, per se

but I always thought a kid named “Leviticus” would be one bad ass mother.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 19, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Andy Phillips

named his daughter Isaiah. Because his wife, Bethany, found a lot of solace in the Book of Isaiah when her first pregnancy turned cancerous.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 19, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Jeremy count? I'm guessing no.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, the Reds had a nice run of craptastic pitchers that they somehow made servicable

Pete Harnisch type guys.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no comparison to what Harnisch, Parris, et al could do

compared to Carpenter, Kyle, et al.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Nov 17, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Check your screen name, big guy

16 years ago we got lightning in a bottle!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Nov 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Kile was good all along

so I don’t think he counts

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Nov 17, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Paul Wilson too.

The problem with those guys is that we needed them to be aces, not fill out the back of the rotation.

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by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactamundo

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, you think that's true?

In that case, I disagree.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you feel about gardening?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 roto

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Nov 17, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Which one? I have three.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey burger lovers!

The Claddagh Irish pub has a new burger on the menu. It’s essentially a cumin enriched beef patty with American cheese, American bacon and what is known as ballymoe relish. Come in and enjoy one today!

BTW, do I have to post these things on the burger site now?… It’s not like there’s a different crowd there or anything. But I will say it is way more 99% than SB, we have analysts on MLB Network, Nation.

I BLEED RED

by Excalib8 on Nov 17, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Is it better than the Jameson burger?

That exceeded my expectations and we will be including it in the tour at some point in time.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Nov 17, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It rivals it.

very different burger with the toppings, but both burgers are now made with our signature cumin onions blended into the patty. I feel like I’ve said too much.

Either way, Our chef Ben is expecting you to stop by soon.

I BLEED RED

by Excalib8 on Nov 18, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

We will come incognito so as not to raise any suspicions

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 18, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that video

is amazing. Holy guacamole. Someone out there hates Theriot that much?

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by BubbaFan on Nov 17, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

WE'RE SAVED

SAVED, I say!

According to BA, the Reds have re-signed Mike Costanzo. (He’s listed as a third baseman, FWIW.)

They also signed outfielder named Welinton Ramirez.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 17, 2011 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

i liked what i saw from costanzo during the two games i saw him play against the indy indians this summer

he yelled back at a drunkard that was heckling everyone and their uncle. it was awesome. the game started at 11:30 and the dude was sloshed by the 4th inning. stay classy, indy.

by Heeringa on Nov 17, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

what the hell else is there to do in Indy at 11:30?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 17, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Weep about their football team

like they always do…

Cingrani for 2012 Closer!

by OGC Reds on Nov 17, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It is awesome. They lose one player and are shit.

It just shows you how good Manning is. That team has been shit for years, but Manning brings in the wins.

It's never too early to learn that the government is a greedy piglet that suckles on a taxpayer's teet until they have sore, chapped nipples. I'm gonna need a different metaphor to give this nine year old. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Nov 18, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn that Bill Polian!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 18, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean just this year, right?

Cause they’ve been pretty damn good for a while

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Nov 18, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Damned good point

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Nov 18, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

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