Whatever Series Game 4: Cardinals @ Rangers

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Oct 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT in Game Threads

Welcome to another one of these. For our European friends: Serie W: Real Cardinál vs. Rangers B.C. This Grantland article assigning NBA teams to their corresponding English Premier League clubs made me wonder what the equivalent match-up might be, in other sports, to Cardinals-Rangers. Or even in mediums other than sports: Kinky Friedman vs. Gorp Cranstonbarf, author of How to Complain About Stuff. (This is unfair - and not just because one of those is made up. TS Eliot and Jonathan Franzen are both from STL).

Let's be honest: the Cardinals are probably going to win this World Series. Mostly because they've won twice as many games as the Rangers so far. Which means they can get away with winning as little as 50% of the remaining games. But also because the Rangers fare poorly given the following formula:

µ Championship (chance of winning) = (Mega-star having storybook postseason in walk year of contract)
(Game 4 starter facial hair good)(Actual games won in World Series)∑dwin Jackson coefficient / (How much I want them to win)

Cardinal resentment is becoming a little passé though, isn't it? A St. Louis World Series won in 2011 does not take away a World Series the Reds were never going to win in 2011. I can't get away from the only meaningful takeaway: that it's going to turn up the flame under Walt that should already be burning bright . If it doesn't, the Cardinals deserve to keep smarming their way to the top.

STL @ TEX

8:05pm, Arlington

Edwin Jackson vs. Derek Holland

FOX

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Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions

I had Schafly Pumkin last night.

I was not impressed. Im not sure pumpkin beers are for me, they’re too sweet.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

schlafly does not make the best pumpkin beer

they actually don’t make the best anything. overall, they are a pretty mediocre brewery.

if you don’t like the sweetness (what i call “pie flavor”), but you want to make sure you don’t like pumpkin beer, I suggest you try southern tier’s pumpkin beer

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

thanks, I'll be on the lookout.

I remember having some decent pumpkin beer when I was on the east coast, which was probably Dogfish Head looking back on it.

I get more and more depressed by Saint Louis as October has gone on. At least I can take solace that John Goodman is from here.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Shipyard Pumpkinhead, from Maine

is the best pumpkin beer I’ve had. Though it’s a SSS.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Every office I've been in, there has been a guy with weird scars that he needs to explain to you—'it was one of those old Xerox machines, with a lot of razors in it'... or a pale person with a novel of supernatural erotica that keeps getting left on the printer. Major League lineups need those guys, too." - David Roth

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Oct 23, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions

had that once

loved it, and I’m not normally a Pumpkin Ale fan.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 23, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

it’s the best, by far

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Oct 23, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I imagine this is true.

But for me, it is locally made, decent quality, and widely available for a good price. I can’t do shit in a can Budweiser.

by Eastwindquinn on Oct 23, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

And i do really like the Kolsch

by Eastwindquinn on Oct 23, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

i wish it was a good price here

the pumpkin 6 pack i bought was nearly 12 dollars

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Is St. Louis Proper, it is $9

by Eastwindquinn on Oct 24, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

mediocre brewery?

WHAT?!

you shut your whore mouf

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Oct 23, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions

yep, mediocre at best...

it’s from St. Louis, duh!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 23, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions

That sounds perfect for me.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Schalfy is great in the hoppy category

aside from that, punt

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Oct 23, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

i missed it, but apparenlty the mets fired wayne krivsky last month

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions

It won't happen

but I’d love to see him come back as a minor league/draft consulting role.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

He's rumored to be in the mix for the O's GM Role

The Baltimore Sun also reported Hunsicker was a candidate, with Jennings, LaCava, Ricciardi, former Red GM Wayne Krivsky, Yankees scouting director Damon Oppenheimer, Rangers player development director Scott Servais and Phillies (and former Rays) assistant Scott Proefrock.

Source

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions

that's a pretty long list

i guess it’s best to not rule anyone out

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, and that's even before the obligatory Cal Ripken Jr. rumors start.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

be fun to see Scott Servais make the leap

just because it’s always nice to see players from my childhood keep on being around.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s what you get for only reading the comments!!

by ken on Oct 24, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Yahoo exaggerates

Their little news box thing was bitching about how risky something was and how it endangered the players’ safety.
Then the story linked to was about the guy throwing a wiffle ball.

by Ram27 on Oct 23, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions

good lord

there’s going to be more fellatijols tonight than I can bear to listen to. Too bad the SNF game has the godawful Colts playing.

Looks like I’ll be watching this one on mute!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 23, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

i thought the colts were going to get a game & a half lead on the dolphins today

stupid miami

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

That'd be why I won't be watching this one.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

i'm not watching because i can't take anymore of that repeating mechanical noise that has ruined the world series broadcasts

i wish i knew what made that sound.

same thing happened during the Alabama/Tennessee game yesterday

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm pretty sure that's Pujols.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

looked for a stream to play over

nothing doing tonight. guess it’s music player. i rarely ever listen to the commentary of any game.

by Howie Feltersnatch on Oct 23, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Its all true!

Yes, he’s worth a quarter billion or so and it should be the WLBs who should enjoy his magnificence.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Gray should be here to comment on that illustration

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions

Matt Holliday seem a little perturbed

by DerekH91 on Oct 23, 2011 8:32 PM EDT reply actions

#SandyVagina

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs

He was hollering at the ump right?

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I like tHan's explanation better

by DerekH91 on Oct 23, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I bet Skeletor Duncan and Count LaRussa

are yelling at the ump right now, wearing him down. Guys like Bob Davidson can be kind of goofy but at least they’ll tell those guys to STFU and run them if they don’t.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions

#Range

by DerekH91 on Oct 23, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions

My news feed is filled with people bitching about the strike zone.

Ugh.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions

Kindly remind them about the Beltre foul off his foot, and the missed tag at first

by DerekH91 on Oct 23, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

If it continues, I will.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

have any of them asked how they'll explain it to their son?

by Howie Feltersnatch on Oct 23, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

Whoo! Kinsler! MIZZOU!

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions

Can he leave the building?

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions

Kind of a babe he was with

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions

Yeesh.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 8:49 PM EDT reply actions

The United State of Iowa?

This is why no one likes the Colts anymore.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions

odd play in the colts game

guy jumped & caught the ball in the end zone, but was caught in the air & tackled out of the end zone.

if you have to have 2 feet down to establish possession, how is that a touchdown?

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions

you have to have 2 feet down in the field of play to establish it as a catch.

Even if he catches it in the end zone and gets his feet down outside the end zone, it still qualifies as a catch, at which point they give him the TD based upon his forward progress.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 23, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions

i understand that's how they ruled it

but i don’t understand why that’s the rule.

how can you get forward progress for a spot at which you never possessed the ball?

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions

it goes the other way in college, this I know

I think the rulemakers worry about having someone deadlift wide receivers out there.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions

i guess so

but if they had been tackled out of bounds it wouldn’t have been a catch.

i guess i just don’t see the difference

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions

i didn't see the play

but I thought they changed the rule, that you can be forced out of bounds on a reception try and it is OOB. shrugs

by Howie Feltersnatch on Oct 23, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

he's an angerery guy.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 23, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions

Jon Jay. Professional tool.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions

"Yo dawg, I hear you like Cardinals"

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Not the first time he's put some Cardinals in his Cardinals.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions

OMG

The clowns at VEB mock Braun’s t-shirts and seem infatuated with the words douche and asshat to describe people, but nothing comes close to that shirt.

I wonder what other versions there are. I’d like to see the Bernie Miklasz version.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions

To be fair, I kind of agree on Braun.

But Braun’s about a million times better than Jay.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Isn't that just a slightly horrifying Greenscreen mishap?

Mgr., Red Reporter

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Oct 23, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Needs to have "I'm with stupid"

inserted somewhere then.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually, I think that's kind of hilarious.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Oct 23, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions

In a sad sort of way.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions

other than piss boy on the front, kinda like the shirt.

and the hair do? all kinds of greatness. still hate larussa and carpenter, but just saying

by Howie Feltersnatch on Oct 23, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions

What a fucktard

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Oct 23, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

RR needs to make shirts like this

with RijoSabes on them. Striking the exactly same pose as Molina.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 24, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions

you guys do realize they make votto shirts exactly like those, right?

they sell them at the team shop & at JC Penney!

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 24, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions

And if Drew Stubbs wore won one for a pregame interview, I would love it so, so, so much.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Oct 24, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

or even better,

he could wear one with a life size Dave Sappelt on it.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 24, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

they don't make that one

they make a joey votto one

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 24, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

what a fucking t-shirt

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Oct 24, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Someone is going to have to get the proverbial clutch hit

because the reliever carousel is about to start

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions

This Colts game is motherfucking stupid.

Fire Caldwell.
And we need to draft a CB in the first round

by Ram27 on Oct 23, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions

Coco should do the Taco Bell commercial next year

They’ve had a closer appear in them the past two years. He look’s like he’s enjoyed some T-Bell in his time, so it’d be perfect!

Respect my authoritah!

by BigBadBruce on Oct 23, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions

They should choose Jay Bruce

Just so they’ll no longer air that Penn Station one.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I've never seen Jay Bruce's ad

Is it on YouTube?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 23, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

me neither

and i’m lucky enough to have penn station here.

/off to the youtube search

by Howie Feltersnatch on Oct 23, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I haven't seen it, no.

I’ve tried searching a few times. Good luck!

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Just so long as he wears the generic "Cincinnati" shirt during the shoot

Respect my authoritah!

by BigBadBruce on Oct 23, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions

My friend Michelle is the woman in that commercial

So yeah, I know someone who’s been in a commercial with Jay Bruce. Just sayin’.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 24, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions

did she get to talk to him?

Is he friendly?

Still haven’t seen the commercial. Hasn’t Penn Station ever heard of YouTube?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 24, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Alas, she did not

The bit with her in it was shot at a different time than the bit with Jay.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 24, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow, they should retroactively give Peyton Manning the NFL MVP award for 2005, 2006, 2007 & 2010.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions

And this year

And next year
And the year after that
And the year after that…

by Ram27 on Oct 23, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I knew that sounded familiar….

Thief! I am the only person to have ever thought that!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Oct 26, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

the national baseball writers on twitter are unbearable

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Oct 23, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions

I'm continually amazed

that the Skip Bayless twitter account is not a parody account.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm amazed anyone is following Skip Bayless

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Oct 23, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

I didn't even know he was on Twitter.

I guess that’s what happens when you’re a celebrity that fails to tweet something even retweetable.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I kinda like that he takes such a bold position

on so many things. The person on there that was even worse was Jemille Hill.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

The words "like" and "Skip Bayless" should never be used in the same sentence

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Oct 23, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

You should work on getting blocked by him too.

I’d enjoy that trollgaze.

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

she's very insufferable

and even worse in real person

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Oct 24, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

#Win

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Oct 23, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions

well

So much for my theory that Rangers Ballpark is a slugger heaven.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 23, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions

so much for the theory that playoff baseball is anything but small sample sizes exploded out of proportion.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions

not making fun of you

just teasing sports copy in general.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions

playoff baseball?

This is World Series basball! An even smaller sample size!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 23, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions

7 walks and 1 run

bah

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions

now you know how we felt against Dave Bush.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

by DerekH91 on Oct 23, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions

That hit the spot

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

Hooray, them!

by FordhamRam on Oct 23, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

Are we winning?

I’m listening to angry music in my room and not watching the game.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

Seriously though

I had to go to mlb.com to find out that the score was 4-0 in the 7th. Why won’t you people let me be lazy?

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe a lot of multi-tasking

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Napoli?

Seriously?

Good gravy.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 23, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

He's by all counts a creepy no-goodnik

but tonight, he’s OUR creepy no-goodnik.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 23, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions

What do you mean?

Dude hit 30 homers this year

by DerekH91 on Oct 23, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Come down to Lake Ponchatrain.

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions

A lot of whining about the strike zone

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions

Fucking Cardinal fans

Delivered as promised. Love Vince to death, but common

by crolfer on Oct 23, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

I haven't used gameday during the playoffs

but its looked pretty reasonable to me. There was one game that the umps gave to the Cards against the Brewers with a goofy strike zone. There were a couple of big blown calls too. It probably comes down to them deserving it because of their “history,” or rather that big 1927 world series or their asshat fans. Fuck em.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions