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Whatever Series Game 1 Open Thread: Rangers @ Cardinals

TEX @ STL

8pm, Busch Stadium

Chris Carpenter vs. C.J. Wilson

FOX

I won't say I'm not going to watch this World Series or that I don't care. Because that would be a lie. I watched most of a cricket game recently because I was already sitting down. But the mood in Reds Country is something quite different, if not entirely opposite, to the win-win outlook Arthur Rhodes enjoys. Although, appropriately, rooting for Arthur Rhodes is kind of a win-win: it's always nice to see the ol' B.A.M.F. succeed, but if he doesn't and happens to melt-down at a critical moment, not only does it not affect whether he gets a World Series ring, he'll also be making good on his promise to take it down from the inside.

Fortunately, beyond communing with all your fellow Reporters, there are also all kinds of odds and prop bets to trick yourself into caring about the outcome (courtesy of Bodog). Here's just a sampling (FULL DISCLOSURE: I don't know what these numbers mean and you probably shouldn't bet real money on the World Series):

Exact Series Result:
Texas Rangers 4-0 8/1
Texas Rangers 4-1 4/1
Texas Rangers 4-2 4/1
Texas Rangers 4-3 9/2
St. Louis Cardinals 4-0 18/1
St. Louis Cardinals 4-1 17/2
St. Louis Cardinals 4-2 11/2
St. Louis Cardinals 4-3 19/4

Star-divide

Odds to Win the World Series MVP:
Albert Pujols (STL) 5/1
Nelson Cruz (TEX) 6/1
Adrian Beltre (TEX) 6/1
Josh Hamilton (TEX) 7/1
David Freese (STL) 10/1

Who will record more Hits, Runs & RBI's in the Series?
Adrian Beltre (TEX) +105
Albert Pujols (STL) -135

Who will record more Hits, Runs & RBI's in the Series?
Nelson Cruz (TEX) -135
Lance Berkman (STL) +105

Who will hit more HR in the series?
Albert Pujols (STL) EVEN
Nelson Cruz (TEX) -130

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So I just got home from a grocery run.

Seeing as it’s the World Series and I’m prepped and ready to unleash all wrath and fury towards the Filthy Cards, I was wearing my Reds hat.

While I’m in the pasta aisle, I hear this “Go Rangers.”

I turn around to find this hot brunette girl in a UK sweatshirt (I love college towns), and before I could think of anything else to say, I blurt out “Goddamn right. Carpenter’s a douche.”

“Yeah,” she says. “But Molina can kiss my ass.”

It was all I could do not to ask her to marry me.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

why didn't you?

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by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

she was a cubs fan

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

PLOT TWIST

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Oct 19, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stared at that gif for like a minute, and almost got a seizure.

Also, for some reason, it’s really difficult to type while it’s on the screen. I almost posted “I staired at that fig”

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Oct 19, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is making me sick.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Oct 19, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have been watching it four an hour

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm watching this while listening to some really good modern jazz

it is amazing

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDORE!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've actually got a lovely girlfriend

who not only would have kicked her ass, she would’ve kicked mine, too.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i prefer the awkward shy quiet types

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm brunette, stupid

I WIN!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

sooner or later everyone turns to yOssarians thinking!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

O magazine was actually inspired by you.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Oct 19, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

people are warming to trading Votto

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

which you were for

but also against.

just put every possible scenario out there & eventually you be right!

by 'tHan on Oct 19, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ewwwwwwwwww

That was the year of the throw away vote. If I was old enough that year I was voting for my dad.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Oct 19, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that know how to wield a frying pan?

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by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

spousal abuse

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin had a girlfriend hit him (or attempt to hit him) with a frying pan once

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Oct 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had another dream

The Cardinals won the Series, and that sucked. But then TLR announced that he wanted to go out on top. So he retired to become a drunk-ass spokesmodel for PETA. That made it suck less.

by poojols on Oct 19, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Then Scotty Rolen jumped out of the shadows and chewed through his throat.

Then he saved all the fur coats so they wouldn’t be coated in the terrible blood.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Oct 19, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know

I don’t get it. Am I supposed to be Chico Esquela here, because beisbol been berry berry good to me, or are you supposed to be Chico Esquela because you have the accent?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sup, Chuck?

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Oct 19, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word, BeeKer

Drinkin’ some gin, watchin’ some baseball. You?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm doing neither of those things

But gin sounds like a fantastic idea… hm

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Oct 19, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine has been posting Mike Shannon quotes on Facebook in celebration

of his Cardinals being in the World Series. That guy says some dumb stuff. He makes Brantley look eloquent.

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

I think that’s the worst part.

Coulda been us…

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by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

every time I see Wilson pitch

it reminds me of what Travis Wood could be.

I hope he’s watching.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Right. On.

I think Travis is going to have a good year next year. The kind of year some of us thought he’d have this past year.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I missed Travis Wood's implosion.

One week he was still a promising young pitcher, then I stopped paying attention for a week, and then he was in AAA and everyone agreed he sucked. What exactly happened?

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uniformed fans?

Like the guy who Evan Longoria thought stole his hat?

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

His walks went up a tick and his strikeouts went down a tick. And he had some bad BABIP luck. Still, he was decent. I think Dusty just lost some faith in him.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wasn't very good at really any point this year

it wasn’t really an implosion as much as it was just long drawn out badness, and better options down below.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I swear the shift from “we’re excited” to “he sucks” was very quick—like I said, one week where I wasn’t paying attention. I guess my memory could be wrong.

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think about it

Wood’s minor league career and Bailey’s minor league career weren’t that much different at all, save for the year-ish age advantage that Bailey gets.

Both highly drafted, both highly touted, both equally effective in the minors…I just hope the Reds are as patient with Wood as they were with Homey. I really think the kid can be great.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Wood can hold a candle to C.J, Wilson

Whenever I see C.J. Wilson pitch, it gives me hope that Chapman can fairly easily jump from relieving to starting.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson didn't exactly jump to stardom early.

He’d only started 6 major league games in his career before he was 29 years old. I think Wood can be great, he just needs the patience given to Bailey, Volquez, etc.

Wilson’s top end? Maybe not, but not necessarily that far behind either.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

I like Wood and think he’d be a real good number three if we had the space in the rotation. I’d love to see him turn in a good year next year, and do think he’s capable of it.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I dunno

there’s a part of me that doesn’t think he has the put away type stuff, and that’s whats held him back.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his change-up has gotten away from him.

When he first came up, that was his out pitch. I feel like he needs to get back to that, since he was pretty well acclaimed for it.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A good point, and that may be the case.

supposedly that was his bread and butter before he added the cutter, maybe he did go away from it too much.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

According to FanGraphs, he threw the changeup more this past season.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about looking up his pitch usages before writing that comment.

But I was too lazy. Given it was praised as his plus pitch coming up, him going away from it sounded plausable.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

Maybe hitters saw it more and were able to time it better? I dunno. Whatever it is, I think he can and will fix it.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll see

At this point I see him as something of a 3 or 4 at his peak, but I was never all that high on him when he was coming up. I bought into his rookie campaign as did others and thought he’d be better this year.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right

And his fastball was the same velocity as years before. I swear I thought I’d heard he’d stopped throwing his changeup as much.

Derp.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this could be a bread and a butter cutter

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ancient Aliens is on

As well as MythBusters
As well as the World Series

by Ram27 on Oct 19, 2011 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

"Ron Washington brought to you by Happy Feet 2"?

Not “Ron Washington brought to you by Moneyball, which he’s a character in”?

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

i think it is a stab at cocaine

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp looks - sigh - good tonight

What I really want to happen is for him to just fall off a cliff. LaRussa keeps running him out there, he keeps getting shelled, and he keeps making excuses. That’s what I want.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

"Hey, buck up kid."

“Screw what you’re lame-ass dad says. Just remember what Cru says, ‘Me, I ride for me.’”

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cardinals were winning a baseball game.

And when Schumaker was batting, a squirrel ran onto the field and by him in the batter’s box.

The Cardinals fans started calling it a rally squirrel.

by FordhamRam on Oct 19, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

and don't forget

They whined about the squirrel. Said they should get a do-over for the pitch because Schumaker was distracted by animal. “How big an animal does it have to be before you get a do-over?”

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by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How big a baby do you have to be to ask that?

I went to a Reds game this year where there were three birds that just wouldn’t leave the infield. The third baseman would shoo them away, only to have them land over by the first baseman. Back and forth, for four or five innings. It was crazy, but no one even mentioned it after the game.

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember the pigeon game

I learned in little league that you need to not let distractions like that get to you. Apparently thats not good enough for the classiest organization in baseball.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the game that the lights went out (thanks snohio!)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Oct 20, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn

I was proud of my over-the-top Cardinal hate above. Still my comment applies anyway, sorry Oswalt, that’s baseball buddy, there are no do-overs.

by pack_fan on Oct 20, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

so yeah some stranger thinks i am some weird creepier.

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that stranger to take a number, no cutsies in this line

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Oct 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

"The ball's a little slick"

Fuck you in your fucking stupid old man fucking face, Tony fucking LaFucka.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

That infrared camera is really, really dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 19, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys,

I’m new around here. I’m a semi-big Reds fan (I’m mainly a Tigers fan). I like in Louisville, Ky, so I can always watch the Reds whenever they play. I go to Louisville Bats games all of the time. It’s pretty cool to see all of the big names before they made it big. I watched Joey Votto, Jay Bruce, Drew Stubbs, and Paul Janish play. I’ve basically seen anyone that has played with the bats over the past 6 years or so. Were you all disappointed this year?

by Freebird on Oct 19, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Not at all.

I think most of us were expecting to finish below the Cubs, right gang?

by crolfer on Oct 19, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's being sarcastic

Yeah, we’re all pretty disappointed with this year.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love that.

One of my best friends is a huge Reds fan. We always go back and forth between our two teams.

by Freebird on Oct 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was such a great year for us.

I usually stay updated on the Red too, so I’ll probably be around here a lot too. I went to a game..this year i think. yeah, against the astros in april. I think it was the first loss of the season?

by Freebird on Oct 19, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both are still young

The team does have a decent young core, so its not like we should expect them to tank next season, which is an improvement from years past. The team is missing a piece though, though its debatable what that piece is. Will be interesting to see how the FO approaches the offseason.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yeah, that helps.

The only thing keeping me from complete and utter despair is the promise that someone here made to me that this year wouldn’t be the start of another lost decade.

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was disappointed, sure.

But disappointment ended after the Mets’ 4 game sweep before the break…and turned into a relative optimism. It meant I knew I’d get to see the young guys up at the big league level, and that we’d finally get a decent glimpse at Alonso, Cozart, Frazier, and Mesoraco.

While the ultimate results were totally disappointing, I still think we got to see the makings of a team that (with shrewd management, WALTER!!) could be a a legitimate WS contender in the next 2 years. That’s pretty exciting.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 19, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That infrared shot was even worse.

I didn’t even get to see a Cardinal get hit!

by the finest muffins on Oct 19, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

buy a vowel!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

because Josh Hamilton touches himself at night

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that isn't the worst of it!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness to Josh

I would fall off the wagon in a much worse fashion than this.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Oct 19, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But then again,

I claim no god as a cop-out fallback.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Oct 19, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

God told Josh to smoke crack!

"Life is such a vapid world pool of nothing"-Eddie Pepitone

by Yossarian22 on Oct 19, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it was the demons inside him

since we should always explain the dumb things we do as if it wasn’t our fault.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that would be the one bright spot if the Cards win the WS

No Hamilton explaining that it’s all because of Jesus.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 20, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone happen to catch the Carpenter interview with Peter Gammons on MLBnetwork earlier?

He spoke of Cueto poorly, basically re-hashing the spikes-to-the-back issue, and he even used his ‘impressionable kids’ to make Cueto look bad. Basically implying that his kids are now traumatized by the fiasco and Cueto. It is really the most disgusting interview segment I have seen in a very long time. Carpenter is the biggest douche I have ever encountered in my years of following baseball.

If someone has the ability to find the interview and edit it, they really should create a fan-post of the controversial segment. It’s really an amazing piece of douch-ery.

by wanderinredsfan on Oct 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

What, seriously?

He really brought up that bullshit the night before the World Series?

by DerekH91 on Oct 19, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

that shit is so last year

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just throwing this out there

Someone should hit a liner directly at Matt Holliday next inning

by DerekH91 on Oct 19, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Good fucking lord

I seriously doubt your kids bring it up once or twice a month, and I seriously doubt they brought it up out of the blue for no reason a week ago. And even if they did and Carpenter demonized Cueto to the point where they are asking him whether Cueto has kids, then that in large part Carpenters fault. Ugh, I can’t understand at all why that’s even important to bring up in an interview a year and a half after the fact. Whether that was Gammons idea or not, a regular person would say they didn’t wish to comment on it since its something that is so far in the past. I just don’t understand it. Carpenter is such a whiner. Using your kids to make others feel hatred toward someone is the lowest of low of personality traits.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

reading comments of myself ranting is funny

but seriously, if he even had a shred of class at all, he would just say no comment on the incident, especially so long after the fact. And the attempt to incite pity towards him and his kids in order to take a shot at Cueto is just flat out sad. If it were me, why not just tell your kids “Sometimes people do bad things. Hopefully Cueto feels bad for what he did. Even if he doesn’t like me, hopefully he’s a good person otherwise and a good father to his kids.” Alas, I doubt Carpenter would do that.

by pack_fan on Oct 19, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's what seems really strange to me

The Cards whine even when they win. They won the game with the stupid squirrel (and that at-bat, too, if I recall), but they still complained about it.

Now, they’re in the WS, Cueto and Reds finished third and didn’t make the postseason, and Carp’s kicking us while we’re down? Good grief. He won where it mattered – on the field. Let it go already.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 19, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it many many times

I don’t know why someone hasn’t stuck on in his back/helmet yet when he continues to pull shit like this. Screw the suspensions/fines, in my mind it would be totally worth it.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Oct 20, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

hah

Nice caption.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 20, 2011 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

got my hair cut just this morning

the haircutter asked me if I was a Cards fan and was excited, I explained that no, I’m from Cincinnati, and “man, I don’t like the Cards at ALL.” The barber looks around and then whispers conspiratorally, “I’m from Wisconsin and me neither”

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Oct 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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