Bleacher Report's Take on Renteria

by wilsalex on Jan 9, 2011 9:47 AM EST

I found this "article" (Honestly, what is a "slideshow" anyway? Write something substantial please, I'm not a toddler who needs pictures to stay focused) over at Bleacher Report this morning and all I can say is ... well ... I'm not really sure what to say. Read it yourself and explain to me why anyone would ever read Bleacher Report with any regularity.

One you've perused it, I think you'll agree that Reasons 2 and 5 are especially convincing.

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Reason #2. Money Could Have Been Spent More Wisely

"Instead [of paying Renteria, Hernandez, Gomes, and Cairo], the Reds could have signed Lance Berkman, who went to the Cardinals for $8 million."

First of all, we need Edgar Renteria and Miguel Cairo as backup IFs, Jonny Gomes as a cheap LF with a good bat and bad D, and Ramon Hernandez as one of our two Catchers--and, regardless of who in particular we got to fill those roles, I think we can all agree that $8MM for those four guys is not too bad. If we weren't paying those guys but instead Lance Berkman, we'd have little depth to the team. Berkman can barely play OF anymore; he sure as hell can't back up in the IF and catch.

Secondly, had we signed Berkman, where would we have played him?? Certainly not in the OF like the Cards plan to (which IMHO is a bad move, even if his bat is still potent I don't like the compromise on defense they're making), and definitely not at 1B since we have Votto--a fact that this writer at BR conveniently forgot I suppose.

Reason #5: Renteria Is Not a Leader

"Orlando Cabrera was not a good player, but he was a leader in the clubhouse at least. Renteria, the World Series MVP, is not a veteran like Cabrera or Scott Rolen is. He will not be a team leader."

Well, I'd more or less agree on OCab. He was less than stellar at SS last season but he did add something to the team chemistry and the clubhouse atmosphere. But honestly, whatever your thoughts or feelings about the signing of Renteria and how much he will impact the team and be a team leader, how can you possibly state or claim that the man's not as much of an MLB veteran as Cabrera or Rolen?

Renteria: WS MVP, 5x All Star, 2x GG, 3x SS, 15 seasons experience.

Cabrera: 2x GG, 14 seasons experience.

Rolen: 6x All Star, 8x GG, 1x SS, Rookie of the Year (1997), 15 seasons experience.

Really?

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I don't buy reason #5

The same thing was said about Slo-Cab when he was signed last year. There were rumors that he was clubhouse poison. Much was made of the fact that on opening day, he was the only player who didn’t high-five the rest.

Next thing you know, everyone’s saying he was providing great veteran leadership. I say give Renteria a pass on this one, until he proves otherwise.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 9, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions

Eh...

It’s Bleacher Report. I wouldn’t really worry about anything from there.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 9, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions

Goose?

I was puttering around Wikipedia this morning, when I saw this on Janish’s page:

Paul Ryan Janish (YAWN-ish), nicknamed “Goose” (born October 12, 1982 in Houston, Texas) is a Major League Baseball shortstop and third baseman for the Cincinnati Reds.

Goose? Is he really nicknamed “Goose”?

His page has been subject to vandalism before (as have many Reds pages), so I Googled it to see if there were any references. And found this:

FTH? Is he really nicknamed “Goose,” or was some eBay entrepreneur sucked in by a Wikipedia prankster?

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by BubbaFan on Jan 9, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions

Huh...

Never heard that before… Odd

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 9, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions

Me neither...

Goose? Really? And I like the pronunciation help—“YAWN-ish.” Never thought of it that way, guess because I’m a Reds fan and have rarely heard it mispronounced.

by wilsalex on Jan 9, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions

He was definitely Orlando "Maverick" Cabrera's wing man

best to keep Paulie in a sleeveless shirt on the sand volleyball court while the bigguns go shirtless when they’re Playing With the Boys.

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by obc2 on Jan 9, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions

You didn't specify.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions

I knew what you meant

and should I get the chance to meet Arthur Rhodes, I will call him Sundown

and then remind him that he’s one of the baddest motherfuckers I’ve ever rooted for to wear a Reds uniform

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions

I heard a few announcers

go out of their way to say “Yawn-ish” … as if to deliberately emphasize that they had read the media guide.

Who was the national announcer, years back, on insisting that Geronimo was actually “he-ron-ah-mo” and ridiculed everyone who didn’t realize it? Well, ridicule is a bit harsh, but he was adamant in pointing out that the guy’s name didn’t have a “G” sound in it.

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by johnu1 on Jan 9, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions

Goose?

I might be one, or I might be a duck.
Duck?

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by johnu1 on Jan 9, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions

hmmm

Looking at the page’s history, the information was added by an anonymous user from the Cincinnati/Dayton area last August.

Looks like it’s a prank.

But amusingly, Wikipedia is used as a source by many sports departments, so the information is mirrored in other places, like the NY Daily News.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 9, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions

I had an editor

who railed on and on about using Wikipedia for our source material. The guy was a complete jerk about it and made no bones that he used it regularly to make himself smarter than anybody on Earth.

Then when somebody finally broke the code, he went around and told us to be “vewwy vewwy careful” about using it, pretending that he had learned this insight all on his own.

Fuckin’ jerk, he was.

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by johnu1 on Jan 9, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions

Yup, love those assholes.

I wrote a perfectly good old school 5 W lead sentence for a story last night, and this internet editor asshole came in this morning and made it into three sentences. Three bad, bland sentences. It just goes to show in business the dumber and more zealous you are the quicker you’ll get promoted.

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by Pops Daniels on Jan 10, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions

I like wikipedia and use it often

but you have to remember how it works, and use it accordingly, a lot of that site is cited but a follow-up is necessary on just about anything you find there. That guy sounds like he just wanted to feel like a know-it-all, regardless of how much of a hypocrite he is.

by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions

dun-gimmee-rong

I use Wikipeekie too if I just need a quick reference, as in was that the battleship Maine or the Harvey Wallbanger that went down off the Coast of Clearasil back in 1899. Wiki is one of the nicest things ever about the Internet.

Back in the day yawn we had to use the encyclopedia, which was fun too.

Even more exciting were those old National Geographic mags about the stories from African countries. Better than Playboy.

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by johnu1 on Jan 10, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

I work at National Geographic

I have unfettered access to all of those magazines.

But I also have the internet at home, where I have unfettered access to filthy, disgusting, make-Pops-blush porn. So I don’t really bother with the ol’ Nat Geos.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 10, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions

I do not blush.

Unless of course a midget clown is penetrating me.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 10, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

you've had a midget clown penetrate you before?

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions

Link please...

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by Madville on Jan 10, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions

Your gross

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 10, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions

Butt funny.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions

Can we put this behind us?

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by ZJiff30 on Jan 10, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions

are we sure it was in the butt?

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions

Hey Pops

Is that midget clown who is penetrating you wearing a strap on ?

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by Madville on Jan 10, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions

You should see my face right now...

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions

are you a midget clown?

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by ZJiff30 on Jan 10, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions

NO.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions

That's what Pops said?

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by jch24 on Jan 11, 2011 7:22 AM EST up reply actions

Crolfs this guy says he knows you (and Pops)

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by Madville on Jan 11, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions

wow, unfettered?

Crap, back in 6th grade, we had to wait for hours before we could get to look at pictures of the Ugandan Solar Eclipse.

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by johnu1 on Jan 11, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions

Because he should be looking for the number of that truck driving company right about now?

by Brendanukkah on Jan 9, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions

more likely

For his relief pitching prowess.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 9, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions

Bleacher Report is at once both the most worthless site on the internet

and a genius enterprise as it could be sold for millions and generate tons of ad revenue even though it’s creator and contributors put absolutely zero actual work into the content.

Nothing on that site is ever worth two seconds of your time.

by kcgard2 on Jan 9, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions

BR is an exercise in mindless drivel

But folks read it and that makes it valuable to somebody.

I really do weary of the “clubhouse leadership” argument. If you needed that, hire Gen. Schwarzkopf to be your shortstop.

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by johnu1 on Jan 9, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I'm with you john

There were 25 guys on the roster without Renteria. They were all sitting around waiting for a leader in the clubhouse?

by kcgard2 on Jan 9, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions

Seems like having too many leaders would have a bit of a detrimental effect as well.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 9, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions

I'd settle for a guy getting 4 hits ... let him lead by example

Cueto: “I will throw strikes, they will hit ball. You will catch it. See, Si, Sue?”

“Wow, what poise,” the team says.

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by johnu1 on Jan 9, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions

yeah I'm getting pretty tired of the "he's a veteran leader" stuff

There are other ways to be a leader than to just be a veteran, isnt that sort of the job for the manager and coaching staff anyway? sacrificing talent in lieu of experience/oldness is not the strategy I’d employ.

by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions