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Slyde thinks he’s sooooo cool, because he was at a private party to kick off the Winter Caravan.  Well, I’m at least as cool because tonight I was at an invitation-only party as part of the Northern Leg in Findlay.  The local radio station that carries the games had a very nice dinner (roast beast, chicken, veggies – the works), followed by a question and answer period and finally autographs; because we advertise on the station, I was invited.

No Cowboy – they left him "at the loading dock" according to Welsh, because of his strep throat.

Welsh:  Sean Casey is going to do about 15 TV games; George Grande is going to fill in for tHom during football season; the only way Joe Morgan does any games is as a "guest in the booth".

Dusty:

  • When asked about Chapman’s role, he was direct – "8th inning"; I don’t  think that surprises anyone.  He did mention that Chapman’s been on a workout regimen because "in Cuba, they don’t use one". 
  • Alonzo’s role on the team – "It’s up to him.  If you hit well enough, a team will find a spot for you".
  • Similarly, when asked about Frazier, he said "It’s on Todd to take a job.  He isn’t going to be handed one, he has to take it." 
  • Again similarly, said he likes to keep one spot open going into spring training for that one guy who surprises everyone (though he also said that one spot usually goes to a pitcher).
  • He’s excited about going to Goodyear.  Evidently, the training facilities in Sarasota were pretty shoddy – he said guys had to wait around to use the weight machines because there weren’t enough and wasn’t room to add more.
  • Hopes to have Morgan at spring training, because someone like him can turn a young player’s career around with one piece of advice that sticks.  Told the shocking story that when he started managing the Giants, one of the young players asked if Willie Mays was "really that good."
  • On Renteria, he said the things we want to hear.  He talked about Renteria being 36, "not the shortstop he was", "injured a lot lately"; of course, he talked about what a "clutch hitter" and "winner" he is, too.  He also reiterated that Janish is the starter.  He sounded like he regretted not giving Aurilia the starter’s job earlier in SF; "We kept bringing in these veterans instead of giving him the job".

Homer:  Something you don’t think about – he said it’s tough for a starting pitcher to get back in game shape after an injury because you’re used to pitching every 5th day so it takes forever, unlike a position player or reliever who’s used to playing every single day.  Also said he’d prefer a 4 man  rotation, because it’s tough to stay on top of your game when you only pitch once most  weeks.

Frazier:  Was given the rookie treatment – had to introduce himself with a little history, and (since he’s from Jersey) sing a little Sinatra.  I asked him about his position, and he said he preferred to play 3rd but is willing to play anywhere he has a chance to make the bigs.  While the little brother was getting his autograph, I told him to take the backup IF job from Renteria and he thanked me.

It was certainly fun, Dusty didn’t say any of the things we fear hearing (other than Chapman’s role, but  that wasn’t a surprise), and Frazier at least sounded like he’s willing to do what it takes to take the next step.

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Nice.

Thanks Sid.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 29, 2011 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting comment about Aurilia

And 4-man rotation? With a different roster I’d be willing to try it.

by ken on Jan 29, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

You mean a roster like that Phillies?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jan 30, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

*the

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jan 30, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

With our depth there’s not as much to gain with shortening the rotation.

by ken on Jan 30, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

wrong

double 4-man rotations
Arroyo-Volquez-Cueto-Bailey (innings 1-4)
Wood-Leake-LeCure-Maloney (innings 5-7)

Then Chapman and Coco.

Brilliance.

"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 30, 2011 4:14 AM EST up reply actions  

The question

Someone wanted to know if the Reds would consider a 6 man rotation, given their depth. Neither Dusty nor Homer thought it was a good idea.

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Jan 30, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Anybody who thinks about it would agree

A 6-man rotation would be harder on the bullpen than on the rotation.

Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

by johnu1 on Jan 30, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree that it would be harder on the bullpen.

But I’m certain Dusty’s concern is that his starters were getting too much rest.

by Brian B on Jan 31, 2011 8:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

always nice to hear things from somebody

instead of Fya telling us.

Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

by johnu1 on Jan 29, 2011 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

off the subject

but i think “Fya” is one of my top 5 favorite things on this site. i luagh evrey tmie i sew it.

by Daedalus on Jan 30, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Daedalus!

What’s your take on the Egypt thing? Is this going to end well?

How’s it going on Lebanon? There were some reports of scattered violence, but now Egypt is sucking all the air out of the room.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 30, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

well...

The military is siding with the Egyptian people, so I don’t think there’s any way Mubarak can hold onto power. But he has the powerful security forces on his side, so he can either leave in peace like Ben Ali or start a bloodbath. I think Mubarak’s resignation is inevitable. The problem is there is no one to fill the power vacuum. This uprising has no real leadership, and Egypt could just as likely fall into chaos as establish a more democratic regime. It certainly is fascinating to watch. I bet the State Department is pissing its pants right now.

Lebanon’s been pretty anti-climatic. There really wasn’t any violence – just a bunch of pro-Hariri hooligans blocking roads and burning tires. One Aljazeera van got smashed up, but that was pretty much the extent of it. The Hezbollah coalition is set to take over the government, but like all Lebanese governments, it will take months to form a new one (after the June 2009 elections, it took nine months to form the government.) The new government will be just as ineffective as the old one. The only difference is that this one will take marching orders from Syria, as the new Prime Minister is a Syrian puppet. Too bad the US can’t see that nothing has really changed. If we cut off military aid to the Lebanese Armed Forces, we are just ceding further power to Hezbollah.

I haven’t been out much lately, not because of any tension, but because I had a massive argument with my bartender buddy about how Arabs blame all their problems on the US. Everyone is so tense that if you let a word slip about politics, you might just get your head bitten off. So I’m keeping my distance for a time. It’s too difficult for me not to comment on things happening in the Middle East right now, and when I do, the anti-American rhetoric comes flying at me like an American missile at an Arab target. And though I agree with a large part of what is said, the ridiculous conspiracy theories and the refusal to acknowledge any responsibility in their own plights is too much and I can’t seem to keep my mouth shut to keep the peace. I hope the tension passes soon. I’m getting rather bored sitting at home each night.

by Daedalus on Jan 30, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

remind them the French and the British had their hands in this shit as well.

"I can’t imagine playing anywhere else. I enjoy myself. I can’t imagine being with a better team."

-Joey Votto

by justin007000 on Jan 30, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I get the impression

that the State Dept. did not see this coming. Sure, they called for democracy, freedom, etc., but they didn’t really mean it. I suspect Israel is having a cow as well.

Do you think there’s any chance this will spread beyond Tunisia and Egypt? Saudi Arabia? If they go down, we’ll all be taking the train…

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by BubbaFan on Jan 30, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Iraq was suppose to spread democracy throughout the region!

on a personal note I would love to see the Saudi’s fall Romanov style.

"I can’t imagine playing anywhere else. I enjoy myself. I can’t imagine being with a better team."

-Joey Votto

by justin007000 on Jan 30, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

By having sex with a

large, strange bearded wizard that can’t be killed easily? Me too.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 30, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

there have already been protests in Yemen, Jordan, and Morocco

I’m not sure anyone saw this coming so soon. As much as I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate to say this, I have to wonder to what extent the democracy promotion efforts of the previous administration had an effect on this. (There are many things I’d like to say but can’t in a public forum.)

The Saudis…well, I hate to sound like an Arab conspiracy theorist, but they are part of the consortium of…what do you call it? I don’t want to say capitalists, because that sounds like I’m wearing a Che shirt, which I am most definitely not. But they were a part of the Carlisle investment group which included the Bushes and the Majors and many of the world’s most powerful people. I know a heckeva lot of Saudis now (they come to Beirut to drink and whore around) and no one really wants change there. There will not be uprisings there, and that is significant because, well, you know, Mecca and Medina.

Israel actually gave permission to Egypt to conduct military activities in Sinai, which is against one of the stipulations of Camp David and a very, very big deal. Yeah, I am certain that they are freaked out, and I laugh as I think about it. They’ve played with fire for far too long. But – there is actually hope, and ironically enough, it deals with Lebanon. If Israel gives the Golan back to Syria, one of the stipulations will be for Syria to cut off the supply line that runs weapons from Iran to Hezbollah in Lebanon. If Israel gives back Golan and makes peace with Syria, the whole situation in the region changes. But honestly, I think there is a window and Israel needs to act now or it will close. Without Mubarak protecting it, well, how far does the fallout from a nuke reach? Should I get a plane ticket? Haha.

I swear we are witnessing the beginnings of peace in the Middle East. Everyone – buy your canned goods and duct tape…the apocalypse is near! (That would be funny if the Christian right didn’t have such a strong influence on foreign policy, which drives the whole protection of Israel idiocy.) Everything is really exciting right now. I just wish they didn’t hate us. The Bush years did more damage than anyone not here can realize, and I say that in my best unbiased voice. It breaks my heart, it really does. Every damn day.

by Daedalus on Jan 30, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

What is wrong with saying that the Saudis are acting in their economic interest

I am not a hard core socialist, but I do think it is very fair to say that people in power will act in their economic interest even if it harms people.

I think that it is plausible to believe that people harm others for economic gain, but to not think that ditching all of capitalism is for the best either.

"I can’t imagine playing anywhere else. I enjoy myself. I can’t imagine being with a better team."

-Joey Votto

by justin007000 on Jan 30, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

in all seriousness

If peace in the Middle East does occur, will we ever see a peaceful, stable, and wealthy Africa?

"I can’t imagine playing anywhere else. I enjoy myself. I can’t imagine being with a better team."

-Joey Votto

by justin007000 on Jan 30, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

a peaceful middle east is almost unimaginable

I sure sure sure hope it comes true.

Stay safe, Daedalus!

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 31, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

State Dept, noticing things?

Hell, our CIA didn’t uncover the Ponzi scheme in Albania until the government collapsed. Why would they notice 16 million angry Egyptians all walking around, pissed off?

Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

by johnu1 on Jan 30, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

For Sale:

Fred Lewis and EdRent together are not worth One Laynce Nix

by Madville on Feb 1, 2011 4:35 AM EST up reply actions  

omg
He did mention that Chapman’s been on a workout regimen because “in Cuba, they don’t use one”.

Does that mean he could throw even harder?

Todd Frazier seems like a really nice guy. But…he sings Sinatra????

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by BubbaFan on Jan 30, 2011 6:19 AM EST reply actions  

Chapman

The workout regimen is to build endurance and strengthen all of the muscles that help you avoid injury. Dusty made it sound like the Cubans just hand you a ball and say “pitch” (in Spanish, of course).

Don’t get too excited about Frazier’s singing skill – it was only a line or two from “New York, New York”.

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Jan 30, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it's still intriguing

Supposedly, one reason some pitchers throw harder after TJ surgery is that they’re lazy and don’t work out regularly. After the surgery, they have to work out regularly or they won’t make it back. So the fastball goes up a tick.

And hah! Frazier’s probably a Yankees fan. Jersey boy that he is.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

mets fan?

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Jan 30, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

well they aren't professional in Cuba

So it is fun, and an honor, but why work hard?

"I can’t imagine playing anywhere else. I enjoy myself. I can’t imagine being with a better team."

-Joey Votto

by justin007000 on Jan 30, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

have you heard his voice?

he sounds like the Situation

/steretype’d

"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 30, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

don't laugh

you may look like that one day.

hee hee.

by Daedalus on Jan 30, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

With any luck.

That fucker’s coming up on, what, 70?

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 30, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm more special than he...

Fred Lewis and EdRent together are not worth One Laynce Nix

by Madville on Jan 31, 2011 4:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm amazed at the eternal mocking of this dude on the internet.

"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 31, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a dude?

Holy Toledo!!!

Fred Lewis and EdRent together are not worth One Laynce Nix

by Madville on Jan 31, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is it?

Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

by johnu1 on Jan 31, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Who isn't it?

"there no countrey called west xylophone" Youtube

by andromache on Jan 31, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

well, there went that query up in smoke

Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

by johnu1 on Feb 1, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear about his bat, but never his arm.

That would be a wonderful surprise!

"Never fight a land war in Asia"

by Excalib8 on Jan 30, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

2009 in ST I saw Frazier play SS and 3B and his arm was very good

Strong accurate throws with some power on them. His range was not appropriate for SS, but me thinks he could be the next 3B for the Reds IF he starts hitting the ball with more authority and consistency…I see no reason why he couldn’t beat out Ed-Rent, except that Ed is oozing with VPness and Todd’s coming off a bad year in AAA.

Fred Lewis and EdRent together are not worth One Laynce Nix

by Madville on Jan 30, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Fiasco

He seems to have a difficult time:
1. Hitting the ball at the MLB level
2. Catching the ball at the MLB level
3. Throwing the ball at the MLB level

Other than that he’s pretty cool

Fred Lewis and EdRent together are not worth One Laynce Nix

by Madville on Jan 31, 2011 4:14 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the obvious solution.

Keep in in AAA to start the year, then when Rolen gets hurt, call up Frazier to start and let Cairo be Frazier’s backup.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jan 31, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

What will actually happen

Keep in AAA to start the year, when Rolen gets hurt, Cairo starts, when Cairo gets hurt, Renteria starts, when Renteria gets hurt, END starts, when END’s OBP somehow ends up negative, Frazier will get the call.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jan 31, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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