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  • The Rolling Thunder Redview will storm across the region later this month
    You can click through to see where and when they will be near you. I'm really impressed with just how much this thing has grown over the past few years. You really gotta hand it to Banana Bob. He's doing a helluvalot more to make the Reds a visible and attractive brand than any owner I can remember. With this and RedsFest, the fans get a chance to consume a bit of baseball in these cold winter months and that is really important for cultivating and maintaining interest. I may just get a chance to go this time.

  • The Fay worries that the club's delicate chemistry will be irrevocably upset by the departures of Arthur Rhodes and Orlando Cabrera
    I think that's ridiculous. I can't imagine Scott Rolen, Joey Votto, Bronson Arroyo, and Francisco Cordero all sitting around with their heads in their hands because these two guys, with a total of only 3 years as Reds between them, are not around anymore. These guys are grown-ups (most of them) and they can handle themselves. Rosters turn over all the time now in the Free Agent era. As long as they win, no one will worry about this chemistry issue.

  • Rob Neyer thinks Barry Larkin could the HoF's Obi-Wan Kenobi next year
    as their only hope for an inductee. After the relatively poor showings by guys like Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines, and Alan Trammell this year, it looks like Larkin could be the only one with a real shot at election. Bernie Williams is the best player making his debut on the ballot next year, which is to say that no legitimate candidates will be added. It could be Larkin or nothing next year, and nobody wants a fallow Hall of Fame ceremony in 2012, the last year of our existence.

  • Hall of Famer Mike Schmidt thinks he knows how to fix the Hall of Fame voting
    It's a bit uneven (his main argument centers around a comparison of himself, Jeff Bagwell, and Jim Rice, which is about as Papa Bear/Mama Bear/Baby Bear as you can get), but interesting nonetheless. Here's his proposal:

    "imagine a Hall system where the current voters pick the top 10 finalists each year. Those 10 are then examined by a committee made up of Hall members – meaning studied by men who played the game. Our committee votes and any finalist who receives a set percentage becomes a Hall of Famer. Anyone on the list who misses stays on the ballot for a second year – if he fails election, he’s removed, never to return." So Schmidt, as a Hall member, wants the power to elect new members mostly in his hands. I can think of worse ways to fix the current system, but not many.

  • Sean McClelland at the DDN has some advice to his fellow sports writers re: HOF voting
    "I’ve known too many of them to be comfortable with sports writers judging anyone’s character. Just stick to the numbers." Love it.

Star-divide

 

  • The Cubs made themselves a little better by getting Matt Garza from the Rays
    If you ask me, they still are not much to worry about. Garza is not the ace they seem to hope he is, and they already had a decent rotation. Last season they got average-or-better performances from Ryan Dempster, Randy Wells, Carlos Silva, Tom Gorzelanny, and Carlos Zambrano, so rotation depth wasn't really their biggest issue. This looks pretty good for the Reds, as the Cubs gave up a nice load of prospects for a modest improvement over the next 2 years or so. They didn't make themselves much better in the short term, but they really bled an already desiccated farm system to do so. Keep f**king that chicken, Chicago!

  • In case you missed it
    The Reds agreed with Jared Burton on a one-year deal last week. He'll be paid $750k and will avoid the arbitration process. Joey Votto, Bill Bray, Johnny Cueto, and Edinson Volquez have yet to settle anything.

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    uh, boy

    I usually don’t pick on the Fay too much, because lord knows, we have a lot worse when it comes to beat writers here in NY.

    But jeez, that article on chemistry. With all that’s happened over the past week, that’s the best he can do?

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

    chemistry = easy quotes

    The Bleacher Report is the armpit of the internet. - BTcoop71

    by johnu1 on Jan 10, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

    Fay puts the "beat" in beat writer.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

    John Fay: Deadbeat Writer

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

    Ha!

    "Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

    by BK on Jan 10, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

    That Fay article is Bleacher Report worthy.....

    Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
    @btcoop71

    by btcoop71 on Jan 10, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

    Even on his worst day, teh Fay isn't quite that bad.

    GOD DAMMIT I PAID THE CAR INSURANCE AND I DON'T FUCK PROSTITUTES WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT FROM ME!?

    by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 10, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

    agreed

    but Fay’s gotten so bad that I dont even visit his blog anymore. Anything newsworthy will be somewhere on RR, and it will be a hell of a lot easier to read.

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

    The problem

    with trying to fix the Hall of Fame voting problem is to overlook the reality that the people who decide the inductees are completely subjective.

    They don’t have to agree to anything different.

    That is how they set it up in the first place.

    I compare it to being pissed off about the content of the National Enquirer at the checkout rack at the market. Stop calling it journalism and you’ll feel better about yourself.

    The Bleacher Report is the armpit of the internet. - BTcoop71

    by johnu1 on Jan 10, 2011 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

    Schmidt

    I’m all meh about Schmidt’s proposal. I’m more concerned about that ball cap. What are those stars doing there? I’m so happy not to be from Philly.

    by ben nevis on Jan 10, 2011 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

    also, being a great baseball player does not mean you know shit about baseball

    "It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word."

    -President Andrew Jackson

    by justin007000 on Jan 10, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    He's not "great", but this quote applies
    If on-base percentage is so important, then why don’t they put it up on the scoreboard?

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

    Jeff Francoeur is a genius. Or something.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

    I have a shirt with that quote on it!

    "He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

    by jch24 on Jan 11, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

    Considering he is absolutely riddled with diseases

    I feel like maybe you could have picked a better object for your analogy.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 10, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

    Joe Morgan knows more about how to play baseball well than 99.9% of the living population

    doesn’t mean he knows anything about analyzing baseball statistically, which is what is required for HoF voting.

    by kcgard2 on Jan 10, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

    i believe someone in the Hall of Fame

    probably has a pretty good idea of what a HOF level player is. the sportswriters certainly don’t…otherwise Larkin and Tim Raines would already be in. And Ron Santo.

    i also think joe morgan takes a bunch of unwarranted shit from online stat nerds.

     

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    (no bash intended on you, kc...if it came out that way)

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

    But HOF players also have a vested interest in keeping the Hall ______________

    (pure, elite, respected, etc)

    I don’t trust players to vote in other players. At least not exclusively.

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

    What more is there?

    I am not trying to be standoff-ish, but really, is there more to being in the HoF as a player than what you did on the field?

    by kcgard2 on Jan 11, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

    Hof voting.

    I would like to see a large voting pool created (several thousand?) diverse in age, geography, and class. All having passed a stringent aptitude test on baseball history and statistics.

    by Eastwindquinn on Jan 10, 2011 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

    That's what he gets for being a relief pitcher

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

    This was a great summation of how I feel too

    I was going to say something like this when the vote was happening, but it seemed sacrilegious. Glad you were the heathen that went first :-)

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

    The left side of my brain agrees with you

    But I can’t help it. It’s the Hall of Fame. It’s as close as anything in this country to being knighted or having some other honorific as your title. “And here’s Hall of Famer Tony Perez.” Even if someone wins a Purple Heart, that’s usually mentioned after the person’s name.

    by ken on Jan 10, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

    i know, and i don't have a clue what to do about it.

    I do know its going to be really strange when in 15 years, we look back and there more 500 hour hitters NOT in the HoF than are in.

    It was the expansion era, with more teams and players than ever before, yet they’re going to elect fewer than ever before.

    Baseball has just backed itself into a corner and shut their mouths.

    Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

    by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2011 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    Fred Lewis

    Reds just signed him

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

    1-year contract

    terms not disclosed

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

    Also, Renteria deal is official

    Jocketty quote:

    “These two players address a couple of needs we had identified for our club," Jocketty said. "Edgar is a veteran middle infielder who we expect to have a positive influence on our younger players, and he is a proven winner. Fred gives us a left handed bat capable of playing all three outfield positions, with speed and a lot of experience leading off.”

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

    900K?

    Nice deal. I like Lewis a lot. Very solid guy to come off the bench. Looks like he’ll lead off on days he plays as well.

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

    I'm very very OK with this

    Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

    by UncleWeez on Jan 10, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

    so

    Is Fred Lewis our long-awaited leadoff hitter?

    All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

    I read somewhere that he hasn't liked leading off in the past

    and complained enough about doing it that he earned his diva label

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

    Sounds like a 'yes' to me!

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    Well

    He’s on his 3rd org in 3 years, and making almost league minimum. He can suck it.

    Also, this is a great chance for Dusty to demonstrate those Player Management Skills he gets paid so handsomely for.

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 6:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    mark it down below

    what stat line will it take from Lewis for you to credit Dusty for proper management?

    #ncydustylovechild

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    I think Dusty takes a lot less shit for his management around here than you pretend he does

    My one big pet peeve with him is his adherence to drawing up a batting order by position with little regard of who’s actually in those positions. Batting the shortstop second when it’s Janish or even Cabrera, for example. But most people have come to the conclusion that Dusty’s been a positive part of the success of this club.

    by Brendanukkah on Jan 10, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

    Fred Lewis, new Reds leadoff hitter, and LF!

    The Dusty got himself a new toy!

    Gomes, enjoy playing only vs. LHP

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

    That's a silly proposition

    I have never once criticized Dusty nor given him credit for a player sucking or playing well. What I give him credit for or criticize him for is mis-using players.

    If he leads Lewis off against righties, playing LF, and plays Gomes only against lefties, I’ll be very happy.

    /nycdustylovechild

    /pleasespellitcorrectly

    /must’vegonetoOU

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    but the e-mail from the Reds says
    Among American League leadoff hitters he ranked third in doubles, triples (5) and extra-base hits (44); T3rd in HR (8); fourth in slugging (.423); T7th in RBI (36); and eighth in runs scored (70).

    Sounds like they want to use him as a leadoff hitter.

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

    He'll most certainly be the leadoff hitter against righties

    and with a lifetime .348 OBP, he’ll be the best one we’ve had in years

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    Lewis should be our leadoff hitter vs. RHP

    and Gomes can play vs. LHP

    who leads off vs. LHP? Ya got me?

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

    Your avatar!

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

    Why?

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    b/c Stubbs is an awful leadoff hitter?

    his OBP and AVG aren’t high enough to leadoff?

    his SLG says he can easily bat between 5 and 7 and help us just fine

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

    Who would be better against lefties?

    Rules:

    1) No Hanigan. This has to be realistic.
    2) BP can be leadoff, but you have to specify who would be #2 in this scenario

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

    why can't Hanigan bat leadoff? Brian Downing did for the Angels in the 80s

    high OBP is high OBP.

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

    Dusty Baker manager is Dusty Baker manager.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

    this

    Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

    by UncleWeez on Jan 10, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

    ding ding!

    /kick’d

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

    Multiple Options

    Janish
    Nix (if we bring him back)
    BP (which means Janish bats 2nd, or Rolen, or The Deal, or anyone else on this list)
    Renteria
    Valaika

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

    if Nix bats leadoff

    i will piss on my opening day seat.

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

    this

    is one of the funniest things I’ve read on this site in a while.

    Watch it, ass blood.

    by -ManBearPig on Jan 10, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

    I still don't know

    why you guys refer to Herb and Thelma’s as “Opening Day”

    Watch it, ass blood.

    by -ManBearPig on Jan 10, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

    as they told the story to me....

    there was a guy in a yard near the entrance to H&T’s saying something to the group approaching H&T’s mumbling something that sounded like “Opening Day”, when he was really saying something to them along the lines of "they aren’t open there’

    you’ll have to ask ‘tHan for the official version, as my memory tells me that he told me the story, although I know I’ve heard versions of it from jch, BK and obc

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

    the skinny

    the first time the local yokels went to Herb and Thelma’s was mid-season a couple years ago. me and than carpooled, parked on the street and approached the bar/restaurant/iconic place before a Reds game one fine Sunday late morning.

    what best could be described as hillwilliam riff raff hollered at us “Izzz y’awwwwl gun ta Openin’ Dayyyyyyuh?”…we were in Reds gear, and didnt want to embarrass the feller by informing him the season was well underway so we just muttered back to him “uh huh”.

    He responded “tis closed today”. We waved at him and kept walking to Herb and Thelma’s. When we got to the front doorstep of the establishment it was locked and we learned Chips Grill is closed on Sundays (except during Bengals season)

    Hand Dig is a completely different story, however.

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    Is that place still for rent next door?

    And if so why hasn’t BK snatched it up yet?

    "He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

    by jch24 on Jan 11, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

    I think so?

    ask obc

    he and I passed the place on the way to my car, and there was some kinda sign up, but I didn’t see if it was rent, for sale or what

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 11, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

    Nix isn't coming back

    Signing Lewis means no Nix.

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

    Ixnay on the Ancelay?

    "He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

    by jch24 on Jan 11, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

    Maybe on a minor league deal?

    though with Hermida having gotten one of those already, it does look bad for Nix’s future as a Red.

    by kcgard2 on Jan 11, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

    ok

    1) HAHA, right
    2) Nix ain’t coming back, and if he did, leading him off against a lefty would be a terrible decision
    3) None of those people are batting 2nd under Dusty
    4) A possibility, but not a good choice.
    5) It’ll be hard to see the pitches all the way from Louisville

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

    Why not Janish?

    if he’s truly gonna be our starting SS, he’s gotta bat somewhere

    my wife’s gonna have to hold me tonight if Nix ain’t comin’ back….

    If BP’s leading off, the Renteria is the logical choice, or you can flip flop and have Renteria leadoff and have BP bat 2nd vs. LHP (honestly doesn’t matter to me vs. LHP)

    I think we’re going to see Renteria start as our SS

    wouldn’t surprise me if we’ll see a more Valaika than any of us think in 2011

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

    yeah, he can bat eighth

    I’m confused why you would think janish at 2 is better than Stubbs at 1. I dont think Stubbs is the perfect leadoff hitter either, but come on now, lets be reasonable.

    I’d be fine with guys like valaika or renteria (every once in awhile), but I see no reason not to groom stubbs to occasionally lead off.

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

    we're talking against LHP

    for whatever reason, Stubbs hasn’t performed well vs. LHP (which is ironic, since you’d think he’d do better vs. LHP than vs. RHP)

    so right now, I’d rather see Janish at the top of a lineup vs. LHP than Stubbs

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

    I thinks Stubbs leading off against LHP

    isn’t horrible.

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    Oh, that's a rec

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

    Neil Patrick Harris is amazing.

    Plus, people tell me he’s my apparent celebrity-look alike, if I had shorter hair (just got a haircut).

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

    Ain't nothing wrong with that

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

    I might be right there with HLM on that one.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    Let's just say I look longer than most.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

    Lance Berkman?

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    Lady Bug

    that’s our nickname for crolfer’s girlfriend.

    "Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

    by ZJiff30 on Jan 10, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

    And to clear up any misconceptions

    I’m not dating Lance Berkman.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    I assume not to her face

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

    Oh, cuz your an entomologist!

    I finally get that nickname now! Hooray!

    by kcgard2 on Jan 11, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

    Haha. And there was much rejoicing!

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 11, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    yeah

    I think that was related to his time with the Giants, but I’m just drawing that from the top of my head so its not very reliable. Sounds like they see him leading off so they probably discussed him doing that when they signed him. plus he led off for the jays last year.

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

    Actually I think this might be more of where he got his diva label:

    When asked about splitting time with Travis Snider (a young player with loads more potential than him) he responded:

    I come to the park every day to play. To see my name not in the lineup some days, I mean, it’s mind-boggling.

    link

    In the same article though, Snider is quoted saying he’s a great guy, so who really knows. Given Dusty’s tendencies to give players playing time if they want it and if they fill some sort of need in his lineups, I expect him to play often. Compared to Gomes though, I’m sort of ok with that. If he is any sort of problem this is only a one year deal.

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

    sounds kinda like

    C-Dick.

    Whose attitude did not earn him any extra playing time.

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

    If players want to think things like this, thats fine I dont really blame them

    but it is really surprising when they start telling the media this kind of stuff. That I really just dont get.

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

    I miss C-Dick.

    But I guess half a year of Jim Edmonds was worth it, right?

    "I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

    by sexsalad on Jan 10, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    I miss him too

    Edmonds is way better than Dickerson

    by Highlifeman21 on Jan 10, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

    And by half a year, you mean 32 PAs, right?

    /hatejimedmonds’d

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jan 10, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

    It was bad

    it was bad. Except for the fact that Jim Edmonds only needed one month and 32 PAs to teach Jay Bruce how to hit and fix his swing so he can truly bust out now.

    by kcgard2 on Jan 11, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

    he'll fit right in with the local Cincy Tea Partiers, then

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    Yes, because conservatives are all racist and homophobic.

    /nationalmedia’d

    "I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

    by sexsalad on Jan 10, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

    There's also a difference between tea partiers and conservatives.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

    You're right.

    I guess it’s a touchy subject with me. I just get tired of conservatives being painted as uneducated rednecks who hate minorities and are afraid of any change.

    "I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

    by sexsalad on Jan 10, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

    same here

    labels like ‘conservative’ and ‘liberal’ are a joke.

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

    people like them so they can blame someone else for all the countries problems

    personally, I’d eliminate the party labels all together. I get sick of the finger pointing the party labels provide. I dont see any reason why we have to label someone a democrat or a republican, people would instead vote for people who hold the views they prefer. We forget that there are democrats that hold republican views on certain issues and vice-versa.

    by pack_fan on Jan 10, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

    And even though a majority of the U.S. want us out of Afghanistan

    Most Repubs and Democrat lawmakers are perfectly happy with continuing the nonsense.

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    by cesarhernandez on Jan 10, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

    A conservative and a liberal walk into a bar

    The conservative says “Ow!” and continues about his day. The liberal says “Ow!”, and sues the bar for being there.

    "He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs

    by jch24 on Jan 11, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

    Deshaun

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    I have a coworker known as "Fast Freddy"

    He got that nickname because the cops caught him driving 75 mph backwards, on the highway median.

    He was drunk, of course. He eluded the cops, drove his car into his garage, and jumped into bed, pretending he’d been asleep all along.

    But his wife turned him in. When the cops knocked on the door, she told them the truth. Plus, his car engine was warm, so they wouldn’t have been fooled, anyway.

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

    that's a terrible wife

    "Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

    by obc2 on Jan 10, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    Over at Pinstripe Alley

    they tried to identify the 35 active HoFers that are active and will be next year. Some interesting choices, including a couple current Reds.

    "Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

    by ZJiff30 on Jan 10, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

    curious

    He didn’t pick Votto because he doesn’t think Joey can repeat the numbers he’s put up.

    But he did pick Jay Bruce.

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    Yadier Molina as a tier 1?

    What the hell?

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

    Let me fix that.

    Yadier Molina AT ALL?

    What the hell?

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jan 10, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

    I think that's a fascinating exercise

    but most of the commenters don’t seem to get it. It’s not a list of who currently deserves to be in the Hall, but a wild prediction of who just might. Maybe 10 or 11 years ago, I made a similar list— of current players who I thought might make the Hall of Fame. I think I tucked it in a book somewhere, so who knows if I’ll ever find it.

    On a separate note, why do so many people seem convinced that Joey Votto’s a one-year wonder?

    by the finest muffins on Jan 10, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

    my guess

    Because Jo-eh doesn’t have the “pedigree” that Bruce and others have. He’s not a first round draft pick. It took him six years to reach the big leagues. He didn’t hit as well as Bruce in the minors. His big league numbers are much better than his minor league numbers.

    I think if he does it again, they’ll start thinking of him as the real deal.

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    by BubbaFan on Jan 10, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

    I think it's understandable

    I don’t think the Reds are a team most people follow closely, so it probably seemed like he came out of nowhere to win the MVP. If they looked at his stats, they’d see there’s nothing to suggest that he was a one hit wonder

    "Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

    Dusty Baker on RR

    by DTFH91 on Jan 10, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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