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Red Reposter - Rocky Mountain, why?

A not-at-all-fun fact fron Mark Sheldon's latest, which asks the question we've all been muttering to ourselves as we lay awake at night: "Are you worried?": The Reds have a 16-30 record against the six remaining real NL contenders - the Cardinals (6-12), Braves (2-3), Rockies (2-4), Phillies (2-5), Padres (1-2) and Giants (3-4). What does this mean? None of these individual records look too unsightly, except that one against the Cardinals. Aside from being the upstart team with some fundamental holes in the roster, the Reds also seem to have something of an inferiority complex. Good teams cause them to press, which can snowball into team-wide flailing. That, and everyone's injured apparently, including our pride.

Bruce reports back on his BP session
"It was fine" is how a taciturn teenager describes a day at school. Not exactly a ringing endorsement. Bruce wouldn't commit to a date of return. While Friday had been the tentative goal, that seems optimistic.  Meanwhile, there's little sign of improvement with Laynce Nix, who is eligible to return from the DL Friday. Fay foresees staggering along with thee right-handed outfielders, but I really wish they wouldn't. There seems to be a willingness by the club to take too much for granted in a sport with a long history of epic collapses, injuries and other sundry weirdness. Things that don't last: leads of eight games or seven runs, six healthy outfielders, pitching surpluses. I don't expect the Reds to find an outfielder on the black market and spirit him out to Denver for this afternoon's game, but Bruce seems about 50/50, or worse, to return with the Reds at home this weekend. If he does, he likely won't be 100%. Oh, I've been screaming this in an empty cell. Well, never mind then.

This twitter sentence (is there a name for these?) from Fay sez that Dusty's extension offer is for multiple years
It's not hard to understand why the Reds want to retain the first manager to oversee a playoff contender in a decade, but anyone who's followed the team closely this year - or Dusty's managing career - should have reservations about the kind of tactical and personnel decisions Dusty makes in games that matter. Considering the man in full though, and the various peccadilloes of other MLB-managers, does it really get a lot better than Dusty?

Devin Mesoraco was a finalist for Baseball America's Minor League Player of the Year
Redleg Nation brings us the details. Jeremy Hellickson ultimately pulled down the award, but Devin's name was tossed around among the final three by Baseball America fundits. The organization's catching depth has exploded, seemingly overnight. It's more than just a prospect bias to say there's a lot of talent in the pipeline at premium positions.

Hall o' Famer Hal  joins the chorus of cooler heads calling for a general cooling out period
But here's some more bad news as a salvo: "Shortstop Orlando Cabrera’s side is acting up again and it is obvious Brandon Phillips is still suffering after effects from his hand injury. Chris Valaika replaced Phillips in mid-game Wednesday."  Just skip to the end and delight in the story about how Hal hit a home run in spring training.

MLBTradeRumors takes a look at Jonny Gomes' 2011 option
The team has an option on Gomes for $1.75MM, which is a bargain price for a guy who OPSed .879 in '09. Even as a 4th/5th outfielder, this seems like a good deal, especially with bonus fan and clubhouse appeal. But Jonny cannot be the solution to start in left field. His platoon splits are too stark and his defense too unreliable. I'd hate to see him unhappily moldering on the bench. So maybe if you love something set it free?

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twitter sentence is “tweet”.

And bosh on Dusty. I was kinda hoping he might be gone. I don’t hate him, he just frustrates me. (Playing Gomes into the ground, etc…)

I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?

by supergrover on Sep 9, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Tweet?

I wonder if there’s a college study that shows how exposing my generation to Three’s Company set gender relations back approximately 715 years

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Sep 9, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't dig the multi-year extension offer

but Dusty’s at least proven he can be a caretaker for a competitive team with a level of talent we all expected to end up in the bottom half of the NL Central. Whether or not they stay competitive next year depends far more on what Walt does than Dusty.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder about Gomes

I obviously don’t know him, but after the last 2 offseasons of uncertainty, I’d imagine he might be happy having the option picked up even if it meant being a 4/5 outfielder. He can come back to the team he knows, and he’s clearly happy here.

My concern is they pick it up with a mind to him being the starting LFer again next year.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

i would really like it if wlad balentien entered back into the plans after the season he just had.

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by GrooveLeg on Sep 9, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it, the team has a TON of options for LF next year, but none of them are really great.

Heisey, Wlad, Dorn, END, Gomes are all candidates to get time there, but I don’t trust any of them completely.

To me LF is the one area that Walt needs to focus on in the offseason, either via a trade or free agent.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way. They really need a LH outfielder now, and they still said he's not an option there this season.

I don’t see any way they put him there next year.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then they better get to showcasing his ass.

Because he serves no other purpose.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 9, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There's also Jayson Werth

And what’s the deal with Brad Hawpe? He’s bad? Product of Coors, can’t play defense, or something like that? There doesn’t appear to be anyone else worth the time on the FA market besides Crawford and Werth.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take either one. I also think a trade is a possibility.

Teams are probably much more likely to trade a corner outfielder than a shortstop.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't think our primary trade bait -

which is Francisco and Yonder – will fetch the shortstop of the future. If they’re willing to let Janish play (and likely improve as a fulltime starter), then they can focus their resources on adding a LF, whether by trade or FA. Sappelt, Heisey, Stubbs is a enough depth in CF. Bruce has RF on lock. Pretty much every position is spoken for. Bench, bullpen and LF – the cheapest positions, relatively speaking – are where they should spend.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Defense is more important at SS, and between Janish and Cozart, I think they can be an average MLB SS duo.

END and Yonder could bring back a good corner OF, and if a team is looking to shed a bit of salary and Walt can take some on, a pretty good player would probably come back.

I don’t think they need to spend on the bench. The Louisville Bats are proof of that. That team is stocked with good but not great players who are MLB ready. Valaika, END (if not traded), Dorn, Wlad, Corky, Chris Denove, and Frazier are all great, cheap bench candidates.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with both of you.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would combining Janish and Cozart form an average duo?

Seems like the team should identify the stronger candidate of the two and focus on him, unless you think neither is capable of starting 150+ games.

To me the question is whether Cozart can become an average SS. His numbers in Louisville don’t leave me with a great feeling, but he’s worth a shot next year.

by ken on Sep 9, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Heisey a LF option?

Shouldn’t he be our #1 CF option for 2011?

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 10, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind extending Dusty

With the caveat of his next losing season being his last.

What about Rasmus? Is it too far-fetched to put Rasmus in left field next year?

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by boohiss on Sep 9, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cards would be fools to let him go

And I can’t conceive of a scenario where he ends up on the Reds if things really are too toxic to fix.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR would never put Rasmus in LF.

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by GrooveLeg on Sep 9, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time believing our near-sighted Mr. MaCoy hit one out.

Far more likely he hit a grounder and watched a seagull fly over the wall.

by Gapper on Sep 9, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

now, now

This was 35 years ago. Long before he went blind.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

jealous hater

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I guess that explains why Janish was in the lineup yesterday, even though it wasn’t his day to be let out of his crate.

I wonder if the Reds will be more willing to call up some extra players once the Bats’ season is done.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

the Reds have to add him to the roster this year anyway, if they want to protect him from the Rule 5 draft, so they may as well do it now. At least if Edmonds is done for.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is totally done for

time for the ’pelt to start playing some OF for us down the stretch!

by Red_Poodle on Sep 9, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops

He’s only been with the Reds since 2008. He doesn’t have to be added to the roster yet.

I wonder if that’s why the Reds haven’t called him up.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's truly frustrating that they are dragging their feet when it seems pretty obvious that Edmonds is done

and even if he comes back, is he going to have time to get back into playing shape in time for the playoffs? Seems like it’s not worth it to me.

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by Slyde on Sep 9, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Add to that the fact that Nix isn't close to returning, you'd think they could do something.

I mean, I don’t care how bad Danny Dorn is at defense, he crushes righties. He needs to be here, now.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what's really frustrating me

You don’t have to get a stud up here, just get another warm body that can man the outfield.

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by crolfer on Sep 9, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw Louisville. They've got a career journeyman starting for them tonight. The guy spent the entire year in AA.

They can fill any roster spot needed, and you’ve gotta give priority to the big club.

More likely is that Walt is unwilling to pull the plug on Edmonds for the season.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep him on the roster!

He blinked at me – I swear!

by Gapper on Sep 9, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You'd think there would be a resevoir of goodwill

for the seats Chapman filled staying down there til the end of August. Bats are in the playoffs, the Reds still need to get there.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

When the lead was 8 games, I was OK with helping the Bats in their playoffs. But with only a 6-game lead, fuck the Bats. We can’t take these games for granted!

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

The Bats are kind of hurting for OFers themselves. They were playing an infielder in CF for awhile. I suspect that Sappelt would not have been called up to AAA so quickly if not for the OFer shortage. He was in A-ball last year.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not

There’s been no talk of baseball activity, let alone baseball activity with Edmonds. So he’s probably, best case scenario, two weeks away. Like you say, if he returns at all, it won’t be worth it since he’ll be a part-time 40-year-old player at the very end of his career and probably not at 100% – for a week or two AT BEST. They’ve entrapped themselves.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

They probably have other players they need to protect, and if they add Sappelt, there’s no way to get him off the roster without exposing him to waivers.

I can’t believe they can’t shake a Jason Ellison or Buck Coats loose somewhere, though.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't need those guys. Danny Dorn could be a perfectly suitable stopgap for a week or two.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you want a lefty hitter to complement Gomes

Which I’m okay with. But I would really like a defensive replacement for Gomes. I don’t care if he can’t hit, as long as he can cover the OF.

The idea of Cairo being the only backup OFer is terrifying, and not because of his bat.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree. The fact that we have to start 7 righties against a righty is ridiculous.

Dorn would do fine in LF, and he could provide more offense than Gomes. He might not be a huge defensive upgrade, but at least he’s a real outfielder.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the 7 righties vs. a righty thing pissed me off.

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I don't want to see Cairo fumbling around out there

I just had the terrible vision of needing both Cairo and Votto out there if somethign were to happen with our 3 nman outfield. I bet Janish might actually be a better OF’er than either. Who else, besides Votto and Francisco, have really played much LF form the infield?

by Red_Poodle on Sep 9, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try Votto in left

let END or Alonso play first?

by featherman on Sep 9, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way they mess with an MVP candidate

in the midst of a stretch run. Maybe if this were June or July, but I think they let Votto do what he does at 1b, and not risk him injuring himself or throwing off his routine/rhythm

by UncleWeez on Sep 9, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

and he he hadn’t played above high A before this year. And started 2010 there. he eviscerated AAA, but he’s 23.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's so dumb is that they desperately need a LH outfielder, and they've got a guy in AAA who has a long, long history of crushing righties, and has spent the last 2 years at AAA.

Why Dorn doesn’t take Edmond’s 60-man roster spot is beyond me.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just checked Dorn's MLEs (just to see if we were overrating his numbers because of the level)

2010 vs. RHP, his MLE Is .264/.353/.481
2009 vs. RHP, his MLE is .252/.312/.419

His BABIP is high vs RHP this year (.401), so I’m a little concerned that it is fool’s gold, but those MLEs make me comfortable that he could at least hold his own at the big leagues, especially over a 3-week period. However, his defense is so suspect that I doubt they’d play him much, and then he’s just a LHB on the bench, which is what Yonder and END already do.

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by Slyde on Sep 9, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't buy the defense is suspect thing.

I mean, I’m not saying he’s great, but TotalZone says he’s been completely average in the corner OF over his career. Take that FWIW, but no way he’s worse than Gomes, and I’m sure he’d hit righties better than him.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only harm I see is that if they add Dorn to the 40-man roster now, he'll clog up a space there into next year.

And he’s not really in our long-term plans.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he's not in the long term plans

Why would he clog up a space? DFA him as soon as the season’s over.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I mean: a DFA is the consequence of Dorn being called up now.

I am not against it.

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

They exposed him to Rule 5 last year, so dumping him off the roster after the season’s over shouldn’t be a problem.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 9, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to make that move for the homestand

Otherwise, they’re dumb. I don’t see the reasoning beyond Jocketty doing Edmonds a solid and holding a spot on the dancecard. He has a muscle TEAR, not a strain.

Keeping Dorn at AAA could be a concession to the Bats. And the Reds don’t trust his defense. And they hate him.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not eligible for the Rule 5 draft.

He was signed in 2008, so he’ll need to be protected next offseason.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

they'd better...

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by GrooveLeg on Sep 9, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I miss something?

Is the Dusty extension a done deal?

by riverfront76 on Sep 9, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Still just an offer

Fix’d

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 9, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup:

Stubbs CF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Hernandez C
Heisey RF
Janish SS
Wood P

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Game threads going up a little later today

since we had original content and a reposter already this morning.

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by Slyde on Sep 9, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm naive thinking that it's actually him

But in the Baseball America minor league player of the year chat, a Devin Mesoraco from Louisville asked what they thought about him…….would a player actually ask about himself like that?

"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."

by beasleymachine on Sep 9, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Second'd

random dudes always ask questions in the first person about prospects. I think it’s dumb. It must be a baseball-nerd thing.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's pretty dumb

I was 95% sure it couldn’t have been him, I was just seeing if anyone else caught it.

"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."

by beasleymachine on Sep 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the record disparity against good and bad teams

I keep telling myself it’s statistical noise, but I wonder if it’s a matter of good teams being able to exploit our pitching. The staff doesn’t strike out many (2nd worst in the league), has an average walk rate, and gives up an average or slightly above average number of HRs. I feel like that kind of staff will do much worse against a strong versus a weak lineup relative to a power pitching staff. The latter will obviously still get hit harder facing a strong lineup, but I’ll bet that they still miss enough bats to limit the balls in play and therefore runs.

by ken on Sep 9, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

It could be

I imagine there are several factors involved. It seems to me like the Reds make more defensive mistakes against good teams. Perhaps they are pressing a bit. Also, I’d guess the offense has feasted on lesser teams and been merely average against good teams (haven’t looked it up). And, as you said, good teams hit Reds pitching a little better, perhaps in conjunction with lesser defense.

I feel like the Reds definitely don’t match up against the Cardinals. However, looking at the other teams:
ATL – 2-3, but 2 of those losses were late inning games the Reds threw away.
COL – 2-4, Monday’s game was winnable, but they couldn’t get the timely hits they’ve had all year. Tuesday’s game may have been won in Cincinnati, where the outfielders don’t play so deep (Heisey catches the first hit of game, Votto gets the second one since he’s not holding the runner on, CarGo’s HR is a solo shot).
PHI – 2-5, but the pre-break sweep were all 1-run games except for the game they blew a 6-run lead on in the 9th.
SD – 1-2, but the last time the Reds played the Padres, they were 8-11 on the season. Different team now.
SF – 3-4, but they lost a one-run game where DRH and EDR coughed up the lead in the 7th.

Yes, I’m playing best-case-scenario here, but it’s not completely inconceivable that the Reds could have a winning record against all of those teams. And in the playoffs, you only have to win one more game than your opponent.

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by Slyde on Sep 9, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on all this. And the only reason the Reds don't match up against the Cards is because TLR keeps messing with the rotation so we don't ever get to see their crap pitchers.

Granted, that would also be the case in the playoffs, but still.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh. There's a lot of noise there.

2 of the top 6 guys on that list are pitchers. And the only guys on that list with significant PAs who have done significantly better than their normal numbers are Holliday, Freese, and Jay.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 9, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken, think about those losses

three of the losses to the Braves are by one one in their final AB. The Phillies series where the Reds lost three had two losses by one run and the third was an improbable meltdown by Leake and Coco

What I’m trying to say is that, except for the Cardinals, the Reds haven’t exactly been blown out by these “good” teams. A ball bounces another way, a line drive is at some one, Miguel Cairo doesn’t muff a ground ball in that Braves loss, and this is a non-story

by timb116 on Sep 9, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, uhh, Brian Wilson might be insane

Here’s him on Jim Rome is Burning

Dude is a total bro, but also insane. He’s like Kenny Powers meets Ashton Kutcher

by UncleWeez on Sep 9, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't decide

if he’s funny as hell or if I hate him.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 9, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why can't both be true?

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 9, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farney has broken free!

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by bbjones on Sep 10, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

2-0 Reds

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