Red Reposter - Free Will is A Useful Human Construct
Remember, the Universe owes us for 1981.
Despite grieving, Cueto took the hill and pitched admirably
It's been tumultuous lately for Johnny, but his composure has been incredible.
Hall o' Famer Hal values his access to Brandon Phillips
"THIS IS NOT to point any crooked digits at Reds’ second baseman Brandon Phillips, but his night represented the frustrations of the Reds, who lost for the fourth time in six games on this seven-game trip, their seventh straight loss in Coors Field. Phillips struck out twice, grounded into a double play, made the last out of the game with the tying run on base, made his first error in 64 games and was out trying to stretch a single into a double."
Hal is being at least a bit ironic by shifting blame while claiming not to, but Phillips did more than "represent" the frustration of the team last night. His play may have cost the team at least a run - the eventual margin of the game. I don't believe in a "goat," strictly speaking, since team sports rely on interdependent performances. The offense should have mustered more runs. Colorado shouldn't have designed a baseball stadium specifically for Carlos Gonzalez. But Phillips deserves the lion's share of the blame for last night. It's only one game in an All-Star season on a team still leading its division by six games in September, but sometimes you just Mess Up Big.
Mark Sheldon has your Bruce and Volquez updates
The sainted voice of ESPN announced yesterday that Volquez was being recalled, but it hasn't been announced whether he will re-take his position in the rotation. Bruce hit off a tee. It always sounds like excessive humiliation when MLB players have to rehab on the tee-ball circuit, but far be it from me to question their methods. Hopefully Bruce will be active again in San Diego.
Joe Posnanski probes the mystery of which pitcher has thrown the fastest in history
Mainline some Poz: "Finding the fastest pitcher is more art than science, more instinct than calculation." The inconsistencies in technology across eras, points of trajectory and even radar guns, taken with the velocity experienced by hitters in the presence of different deliveries makes this a subjective study. The effort yielded Posnanski's non-scientific list of the fastest hurlers in history. I may never break my cycle of addiction to ordered lists of baseball player's names.
CoCo Cordero is Reds' nominee for Roberto Clemente Award
The Closer drew scorn from fans when he forgot how to throw strikes a while a go, but don't let that obscure the fact that, on top of being pretty lights out lately, Cordero does good work in the community. Did anyone know that Pete Rose won the Roberto Clemente award in '76? Whatevs.
Smoltz weighs in on Chapman
The praise of Chapman's slider echoes what other analysts have been saying since his call-up. Doubting the radar gun is just a natural human response when being presented with evidence of real magic:
His spin-rate and his slider with a dot like that is so tight and so nasty that it really has the hitter more confused than anything else. You throw a 103[mph fastball] down the middle; enough big league hitters are going to hit it. I’m more impressed by his slider coming off the fastball. It looks the same and you can’t tell.
Marty Brennaman has a few words on the Reds starting pitching in this video/slideshow something or other
It's well known that Marty likes to skew negative. But it's also true, as he points out, that the Reds rotation is uneven. Each starter is capable of a melt-down. The upside to the Reds' depth, though, is that if Dusty is willing to hook his starters who look like they're off, there's a good menu of starter-caliber guys capable of going multiple innings in relief.
The Huffington Post on Pete Rose's "Crown of Thorns"
There's definitely some Huffing going on this Post: "America has much at stake in the way we treat Pete Rose. This is not because Pete Rose is innocent, but because he is guilty. In this respect, we are on trial, not Pete Rose." The premise is the same one Reds fans have heard for the last 20 years: Pete Rose's lifetime ban is out of proportion with he did. But Rose's role as a baseball pariah is less about creating a diversion from the Steroid Era than Baseball simply acting like most big organizations with long histories, contradictory policies, and selective ideas of precedent (the ban) and tradition, which gravitate to its self-identified heroes and away from guys like Rose. There was a time when baseball thought, at least publicly, that Pete Rose was a good guy (Roberto Clemente Award), and that just so happened to coincide with the height of his star power.
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The best part about that list
is that Crasnick didn’t include the Cardinals as contenders. I’ll feel a lot more confident about that if the team still has a 5-6 game lead this time next week.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Maybe this is wishful thinking...
But I really think the Cardinals are about to pack it in. Pujols can barely move. If the reds put a couple more games on the lead in the next week, I could see him opting to have surgery on his ankle now, in order to get a head start on rehab.
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Sep 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that is wishful thinking
only thing we can really expect is for the Reds to start playing real. Which may take a couple outfielders. Heisey is slumping something bad.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I think this is the real weak point right now
It’s really not surprising that the Rockies are playing well at Coors Field, but the Reds are going to struggle to score runs with an all-righthanded outfield, with Heisey slumping. I really don’t like Big Man theory or “keys to the game”-style analysis, but it would be great if Phillips would step it up. He’s going to get the most at-bats right now – in front of Votto and Rolen – so he needs to get on base and stay there.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
From the "How The Hell Did That Happen?" file
The Orioles are 21-13 under Showalter.
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Sep 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
no really
why is Showalter famous?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
He was to Mattingly as Yonder is to Votto?
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Sep 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They're sneaking up on everybody
Stink it up for 4.5 months and then play like banshees the rest of the way…spike interest for next year. And people think Angelos is crazy
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Yankees are starting that guy whose name sounds like an 80's band
Is it “Even Ovuh” or “I’ve an Ova”?
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Sep 8, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he's the guy
who took the mound for the SWB Yankees when Aroldis Chapman’s Bats came to town.

It was a pretty close matchup.
The Yanks lost Ivan Nova to the Rule 5 draft a year ago. I think they’d given up on him, since he spent three or four years without getting above A-ball. When they got him back, he started rocketing through the system. They put him on the roster so he wouldn’t be lost to Rule 5 again.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
sounds like he rose
like a champagne Ivan Nova in NY
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Sep 8, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That may just be
my least favorite song from my high school years.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Sep 8, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe if you were completely and totally blitzed...
Like within an inch of death or something, it would be pretty sweet. Otherwise… I got nothin’. Song drives me nuts.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Yadier Molina is still a HUGE bitch. That is all.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
Even the Brewers fans thinks so
That dude who got thrown out for heckling Molina last night got a standing ovation from the Miller Park crowd.
Finally, if you will permit me, I'd like to make a comment which in my mind, is indicative, perhaps, of the greater significance of football and sports emphasis in general in this country, and that is, I thank God I was warring on the gridirons of the Midwest and not on the battlefields of Europe. Nile Kinnick, 1939
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Sep 8, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I was referring to. Did you see the ejected fan's quote?
"But I never swore at him," Ottow told the AP. "He just got the umpire to throw me out. We were bantering back and forth and I guess Molina couldn’t take it anymore.
"You’d think these guys would have tougher skin than that," he said.
Then
"I don’t care how much this costs me . . . you’re a loser Molina!" Ottow shouted at the TV.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously? That's what the guy got thrown out for?
Molina is such a little bitch.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I guess he hasn't watched the Cardinals at all this season.
Or he’d realize that they really don’t have a tougher skin than that.
If you want to see real bashing, check out Red Reporter…it’s crazy over there - hr
by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a joke
I heard abotu that on the Dan Patrick show and I couldn’t believe it. I ave never heard of a player getting someone thrown out for somethng like that
Loudog at Brew Crew Ball has a bit more info
I watched the reply of the game and the fan that was ejected was very loud the whole game. However the only time you can really make out what he is saying on the broadcast is just before he was thrown out. "Hey Molina how do you like earning your living on your knees?" I don’t know what was said before that exactly but I have heard way worse than that many times at many different ballparks. However, if I had paid the money to sit in those seat I would have complained to the ushers long before he was ejected.
It’s possible that the fans around him tried to get him ejected for his loud and annoying behavior. I’ve seen that happen, though, and it never involved an umpire.
Mah bro once yelled to Paul O'Neill
“Hey, Paul, you make a great sandwich!!”
Got a look and a smile from the right fielder.
\cool story, bro
Gnight, Slim
most important news of the day
With the start of football season, Brennaman and Keels also won’t be available this weekend, so George Grande will come out of retirement for Satuday’s Reds-Pirates game on the 25th anniversary of Pete Rose’s 4,192. Brennaman is doing the Lions @ Bears for Fox Sunday, and Keels has the Univ of Miami @ OSU at 3:30 pm Saturday. Grande will do 7 Reds games on FSO the final 3-1/2 weeks of the season.
Hey!
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Ho!
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Kool-Aid!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If you insist

Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do. And that's awesome.
Look at that FACE!! That bowl of punch is piiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssssed!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I regret giving the Kool-Aid man short shrift
A better unofficial mascot for the blog / the Reds has not been birthed. Maybe the finest muffins would grace us with a Reds-adjusted, non-copyright-infringing likeness we could use ??
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I'm referring to finest muffins, the RR member and illustrator
not the class of baked goods.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
shut up
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
open down
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Anal?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
Like anything else.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a most excellent idea.
Talk to me in October. My respectable-person job is eating up all of my time now, but come playoff time I should be able to get back to drawing.
by the finest muffins on Sep 9, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Lions and Bears?
Thomas said “oh my! I must do those games.”
by ken on Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't. People that are too nice usually have bodies in the basement. He always creeped me out.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk about a shit storm that's going to be. Bradford and Suh will be the only reason to watch.
Those two teams are going to be Shi-tay!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame the Bengals don't play the Lions this season. I've been waiting to use this pic.
by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
that ladie looks none too happie
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I was trying to think of where I recognize that face. I got it.

Uncanny resemblance.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Sep 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh/
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a Nittany Lion -- bitch has no mane
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
something Gucci has been working on for years now, playa

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Haven't you ever heard the term "blood money"?
If you want to see real bashing, check out Red Reporter…it’s crazy over there - hr
by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he wearing boxer briefs?
There goes his street cred.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
How else are you supposed to keep those huge nuts off your thighs?
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
x

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ouch!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Also -- that's a rec, young man.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Do not want
Also, I saw no unmuted Reds ball last night, but in the Gomes homer clip, it seems as if Welsh is handing PBP duties.
Did that really happen?
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Sep 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Welsh is doing the PBP. he’s not great. you can tell he’s not used to it. still better than Keels.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
A deaf kid with tourettes is better than Keels
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Disagreed.
I was actually in a music class SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO A KID that had tourettes and was deaf in one ear. He played the tuba. I’ll take Keels any day over that.
And this has been another chapter in “Real horrifying moments in Farneyismycopilot’s life”
Seriously, this really happened. Fuck that part of high school
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you ever see the South Park where Cartmen pretended to have tourettes?
Just so he could cuss people out…..it was a classic.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Yes I have. I love that show. Unfortunately this was nothing like that.
The kid’s tourettes did cause him to yell funny shit — he had a facial tick and would make a smacking noise with his mouth … constantly. Even when he was playing his instrument. It was fucking awful.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
*didn't cause him to yell funny shit
SEE CHARLIE!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Go check out Farmers Only ... I replied to one of your comments there
and then proved my point here.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
who is doing the analyzing then?
is it Brantley? Did Kelch and Marty work the radio?
Would they really put 2 PBP’s on radio and two color men on TV?
Is this because Kelch does not fuck with FSN like contractually or something?
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think Kelch or Marty work with FSO
that’s my guess, anyway. otherwise it doesnt make any sense, as you suggested.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The only ones who can go between are
tHom, Keels and Cowboy?
This announcer garbage really has been a clusterfuck since tHom was hired.
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Sep 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
keels doesn't do radio
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
I thought that said "audio" for a second
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
he also don't do fat chicks
so leave that shit at home

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
see my post below ... both are doing pbp and color ... odd
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
it's actually seems as if both welsh and cowboy are doing both PBP and Color together ...
.. it’s very strange … they haven’t really stepped all over each other as you would think when both are talking equally … i’ll take it any day over thom and keels
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
I agree
Welsh and Brantley have worked together just fine. Both of their personalities are less annoying than THom, and Keels is just a trainwreck on baseball.
"Dusty Baker is the best manager in the game....until the game actually starts."
— Doug Gottleib, ESPN radio, June 3, 2010.
by cesarhernandez on Sep 8, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually like that two pitchers are calling the games, even if one of them is welsh.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
Yeah, I'd never trust a Gael of any sort.
We need to have good old fashioned Anglo-Saxons calling the series.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I think Brantley is at his best with Welsh, cuz he doesn't talk out of his ass as much.
And when Cowpile and Welsh disagree, Welsh just asks him a question to clarify his position, then lets Jeff say whatevs without comment. As it should be.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
holy christ we're fucked....
“The Grande Curse” might not mean anything to you guys now. different story after those 7 games.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
are you insinuating that Grande was the reason we didnt have winning baseball for so long?
because i think you just blew my mind.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ravenriley'd
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Sep 8, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"MIND", 'credsfan. i said "mind"
sheesh.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, she'll blow your mind too
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
But it ain't cheap
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think with one of my two heads ... I know exactly where my "mind" is.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
/shudders
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It just HAD to be the Pirates, didn't it?
I like Grande well enough, but now I have to hear him go on and on about the Buccos.
Finally, if you will permit me, I'd like to make a comment which in my mind, is indicative, perhaps, of the greater significance of football and sports emphasis in general in this country, and that is, I thank God I was warring on the gridirons of the Midwest and not on the battlefields of Europe. Nile Kinnick, 1939
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Sep 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
At least it's not the Cards.
Having to listen to him go on and on about how great the Cards’ fans are, what a great guy Pujols is, was just awful last season. And don’t get me started on him calling Pujols “Prince Albert” over and over again.
If you want to see real bashing, check out Red Reporter…it’s crazy over there - hr
by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hal has a crystal ball
Hal says the Reds “lost for the fourth time in six games on this seven-game trip”, which means the Reds will win tonight!
well, we are still on top of the NL by % pts .... Philly overtook Atl ...
i would much rather play the Atl than Philly …
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
Most definitely.
I’d rank current teams in the hunt in order of who I’d want to face as: 1) Padres 2) Braves 3) Giants 4) Phillies
I just don’t see us winning a short series going against Halladay/Oswalt/Hamels
maybe not
but I’d cherish facing Oswalt in the playoffs and finally exiting the coffin he has thrown the Reds in, throwing Oswalt into said coffin, then nailing it shut.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Of course
I’d love for that to happen too. But I’d still rather face some combo of Garland/Correia/LeBlanc/Richard after a stud (Latos) than Oswalt/Hamels after Doc.
Honestly
Who the hell is Carlos Gonzalez? I mean, this freakin’ guy is going to win the Triple Crown?!? In 5 years, he’ll probably be playing in some independent league in Montana. Yet apparently, he’s invincible this year. Obviously, I want Jo-eh to win the TC, but if it can’t be him (and has to be someone), please let it be Pujols. At least I’ll feel like he deserves it.
And quit going yard against the Reds.
It's summertime - go Reds!
He's been part of deals for Dan Haren and Matt Holliday
So, yeah, it’s not like he sucks. There were rumored “attitude problems”, a la our own Edinson.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Gonzalez has some staying power
He’s 24, this is his first MLB season playing more than 90 games and he has 5+ years of seasoning in the minors from age 17 onward. Colorado’s might have made the right bet that he’d be able to replace Holliday’s production at a tiny fraction of the cost.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't need your reasonable assessment clouding my rant
I still say he sucks.
;-)
It's summertime - go Reds!
Well. yeah
That was kinda my point.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We were discussing this in one of the game threads
and it turns out that Poz was musing on CarGo’s home/road splits today, too.
And Gonzalez may be hitting well (at home) and hitting a ton of HRs (at home), but he pretty much never walks.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
How ridiculous are Larry Walker's home stats from '99?
I had forgotten, but a .461 average?!? Jeebus.
It's summertime - go Reds!
Yeah, I thought it was funny that he just flew by that one.
It’s a significantly larger split batting average-wise, though slightly less of a split in HRs than CarGo has this year. Then again, we would like to assume that Coors is less hitter-friendly now than it was in 1999.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
the Athletics Nation mathematicians did something pretty awesome
this graph, from this article, shows how pitches move in Denver vs. (the avg of) everywhere else. Notice that the most difference is in fastballs, changes, etc. The theory they have is that Carlos lacks some pitch recognition skillz, but because pitches move less, its less of a problem for him at home.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Sep 8, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That seems possible.
Poz also asks if the existence of a home advantage actually makes a player play worse away from Coors.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
That's an incredibly elegant explanation
He also has a .385 BABIP (vs .344 career in the minors). That’s probably unsustainable, but he does make good contact with pitches he can hit. As long as he stays at Coors, he’ll be a force. And those splits might mean an extension with Colorado is pretty likely, since the Rockies will value him more than anyone else.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Grieving, LOL.
Yeah right. You do realize Uncle Cueto just faked his death so that Johnny wouldn’t have to go to St Louis and face the horror of sitting in the dugout there.
/VEB
/not as funny as you think.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Classiest fans in baseball, they are not.
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by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, unlike us.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Yeah, I'm ready never to hear anyone discuss relative "classiness"
of sports fans ever again.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
except for UMichigan
They’re really classy. Really.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
And fucking old.
/jingles keys
//yells at young ruffians to sit down
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Again I say: get off my lawn.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Psssshhh. None of the Asian students at UM go to football games.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We don't claim to be classy though.
Nor are we often referred to as being ultra classy all the time.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I had never heard the word "class" associated with the Cardinals until our melee this year.
Humility is also something their organization is big on.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
I don't recall anyone here making that claim,
However they do seem to like throwing that term around a bit. So I throw it back at them.
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by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
cite your sources?
Its just part of their schtick. Oldest team in baseball is part of ours. There’s nothing to it.
I just think criticizing fanbases unironically is lame.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Lame?
Are we talking about elderly Michigan fans again?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
no, just the lefties in the Reds outfield
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
ironically, Chris Dickerson is the healthy one right now.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Gifts of the Magi'd?
If Bruce can just O’Henry his way back to the lineup, I’ll be like “Ohhh… Henry!”
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Cite my sources?
I don’t care enough to. And honestly, I don’t care what others think is lame either.
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by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So. Don't you guys love obvious advertising of other sites on this site?
Pretty awesome. Yup. I love seeing people advertise sports betting sites under the pretense of liking the Reds.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I just flagged it as spam, and went on my merry way.
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by RedsMasochist on Sep 8, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously
dude has maybe 2 days left on SBNation with that comment history.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
How often are those on here?
Seems like the mods do a good job of catching them pretty quickly, so I’m guessing we don’t usually see them.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Yeah, I have started checking every now and then
to see what provisional members are obviously spammers. They haven’t been all that sneaky lately, so I can ban them before they even have the chance to post here.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
"User xghuwry78 joined Red Reporter"
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
I hate you so much right now. My eyes still hurt.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I also got this response from my friend in PA
“Okay….almost just wrecked my car. Fucker.”
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
You are a terrible, awful person. And that is why I like you.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Local flavor!
Cop wrongly arrests kid to get into the pants of his mom. Wow.
This is a sad story. I couldn’t imagine my son walking to school down Glenway Ave.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
The mother doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb either...
The mother testified she was so afraid for her son she would do anything to get him out of jail. She said Steele told her it was “a process” to get her son out and even after she performed oral sex on him, the detective didn’t get her son released.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Oh no, not at all
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
That's not really fair though.
Although he was obviously crooked, he had the color of law behind him, and ostensibly, the authority to do what he threatened. He could have really ruined her son’s life forever.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
I realized as soon as I posted that
that I should have made a disclaimer. I’m not blaming her for what happened, since he was clearly in the wrong. But still, she should have thought through what it meant that a police officer was pressing her to do that.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
The scary quote for me is this one
Julian Steele, who has since been fired from the police force, was only repeating what he saw others on the force do during his 14-year career, Steele’s attorney said before the sentence was imposed.
"No doubt about it. There was a mistake made here," Steele’s attorney Lindsey Gutierrez told Hamilton County Common Pleas Court Judge Dennis Helmick. "He saw other cops do it."
Not totally surprising sadly, but still scary.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
That's a great defense
He should also try “it’s got a mind of its own, your honor. A mind of its own.”
by ken on Sep 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Julian Steele is probably the porn-iest name I've seen this side of Boof Bonser.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
this is the best part
Julian Steele, who has since been fired from the police force, was only repeating what he saw others on the force do during his 14-year career, Steele’s attorney said before the sentence was imposed.
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"I couldn’t imagine my son walking to school down Glenway Ave."
Every day of my life until I got a kid. First one direction for eight years. Then the other for two.
But still, I’m with you. And FUCK the corner of Glenway and Grand and that shitty little convience store they have there.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
kid=car
I had a kid once too. But I sold him for some cigs the aforementioned convienent store.
WEST SIDE PRIDE!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I use it! And still fuck up.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, Kimball Perry can't write worth a shit.
They must have very low standards for employment at The Enquirer.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
They're the only print game in town, they don't give two shits about quality
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Ready for me to blow your mind, 'nukkah?
Matt Groening was in on 9/11!!!!
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
by andromache on Sep 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, but didn't that khal khalesh vendor thwart the Times Square car bomber?
“No bowl! Stick! Stick!”
by Brendanukkah on Sep 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I have Mountain Dew and Crab Juice"
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
by jch24 on Sep 8, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ewwwww
i’ll take the crab juice.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A rec for everyone from Andro on down.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That's my single favorite episode ever!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And in even other news, you don't have to hit enter when using Google anymore
Confused me a little the first time it happened.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Tonight's lineup
Stubbs 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Heisey 9
Hanigan 2
Janish 6
Arroyo RHP
At some point, they have to add another outfielder, right? Right? RIGHT? Is this thing on?
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the decision to play short on outfielders
is one of the dumbest this year. I blame it all on Jim Edmonds.
I think everything can be blamed on Jim Edmonds.
Rotation’s shaky? Jim Edmonds.
Rhodes regressing? Jim Edmonds.
Global Warming? Jim Edmonds.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
If it were climate change instead, I would fully support it
Just so we wouldn’t have to see that dicknose in his cutoff t-shirt again.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
by jch24 on Sep 8, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
JCH's crabs? Oh yeah, Jim Edmonds.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
why oh why did Wlalddy have to go and get hurt. Having said that, I don’t really think that they necessarily would’ve called him up
whoah
Janish?
It’s not his day to be let out of his crate.
What happened to Slo-Cab?
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and Ocab hit well yesterday
Maybe because he is just back from the injury, SloCab is going to trade off with Janish more often?
could be
Other possibilities:
Slo-Cab is injured
Dusty has realized Cabrera plays better when he gets some rest
Janish played well enough to earn more playing time
Some combination of the above
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I think it's number 3
Dusty is actually awake and caring this September and only a fool refuses to implement the RR compromise plan of 2010: Janish 2-3 times a week
They just don't seem to be willing to cut their loses with Edmonds
And if Bruce says he might be ready sometime this week, they’re going to keep slouching along.
Aaron Cook is no great shakes, but Janish, Gomes and Heisey (since last month) are all platoon players at best on any other contending team. I like ‘em, but that’s not a recipe for success in late-season games against good opponents.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
some of these games would undoubtedly turn out differently if we had just one decent left handed outfielder
didn't Edmonds himself say "I'm not going to play again, at least not this year."
So, uhh, WHATS THE WAIT
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
jim fucking edmonds
fucking our shit up from beyond the grave.
what a cocksucker.
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Sep 8, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this rmeinds me of a quesiton I had
can you hire an Independent league player at anytime? Could the Reds, for example, go and hire an OF from the Freedom? I don’t think that’s a good plan, I was just interested in whether or not it is even a possibility.
I would think so, as long as you have room on your roster
But chances are there’s someone better on your AAA squad.
by ken on Sep 8, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Pete Rose Jr. for the stretch run? HELLZ YEAH!!
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
There aren't any outfielding Pedro Martinezes sitting around
right now are there? I would guess Dorn fits the bill better as well as anyone they could scrounge.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
bring back Bubba Crosby!!!!
I would guess it depends on the contract the player has signed. Most of the independent league players seem to have contracts that allow them to bail if they get a better offer.
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awesome well an indie league player
has to be better than Edmonds and it could create a Disney type buzz around the team!
Darryl Strawberry?
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
well
There’s Tim Raines’ kid, Tim Raines, Jr. He’s playing for the Newark Bears. Switch-hitter.
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Are the fanz clamoring to DFA Harang?
I think the jury’s still out on whether he could be useful out of the ’pen. I think you give Volquez a start and see if Harang can pitch out of the bullpen.
The Reds need an outfielder and Edmonds had a hematoma and stil lcan’t even throw as of a few days a go. I think the fact that he’s still on the 40-man must be a handshake between him and Jocketty.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
they dont need to DFA either
they can just put Edmonds on the 60-day DL.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
or just toss him off the Roebling Bridge
with a cinder block tied to his tail.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huh
Didn’t know Edmonds was Jewish.
by Brendanukkah on Sep 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was just reading about
the Pearl Bryan murder. Supposedly, they cut off her head and threw it off the Roebling Bridge. It was never found.
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CHARLIE FOUND THE HEAD!
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
by jch24 on Sep 8, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Charlie's obsessed with head
He must be married.
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didn't you see the opening scene of Mask of Zorro?
that’s impossible
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
it was a documentary
and the events occurred in real time!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 8, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah it ws kept in a carpet bag
I saw a history presentation on that murder once. It was really sordid and weird. Not that most murders aren’t sordid, this one was just like some kind of horror movie.
especially for the era
Quite a scandal for Victorian times. The belle of the county, led astray by a man who was not what he seemed. Knocked up, and in the big bad city in search of an abortion.
I saw it mentioned on a History Channel show about ghosts. It just seemed so over the top that I thought it was an urban legend. So I looked it up. And it was true. And even more gruesome than the TV show indicated.
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There's only one man who can solve this crime, but he's now behind bars.
Nothing can stop Detective Julian Steele when he’s searching for head.
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