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Red Reposter - Can We Talk About Something Other Than Joey Votto or Aroldis Chapman For Once?

Set to the tune of "Canyonero", from The Simpsons:

Can you name the pitcher that throws 105
He can strike out nearly any man alive
Cubandolerooooooooooo-woah!  Cubandolero!

He throws that slider to drop the hammer down
He makes any hitter look like a clown
Cubandolerooooooooooo-woah!  Cubandolero!

He's the new shut down reliever for your first place team
He's a Cardinal-crushin', Cub-stompin' pitching machine
Cubandolerooooooooooo-woah!  Cubandolero!

  • Always looking on the dark side
    Though it is incredible to hear that the Reds have gained 9 games in the standings in just 20 days, we must also remember that there are 30 days left in the season. The Cardinals still have a glimmer of hope that they can salvage the season and make an improbable comeback, but that can be throttled out of them with a strong showing this weekend. It is a great comfort to know that at the absolute worst, the Reds come out of this series with a 5 game lead. But let's make it 11 instead, eh?

  • Joey Votto is not the only Red climbing to the top of the leaderboards
    Old fan-favorite and ransom demand in the Willy Taveras deal Adam Rosales is one of the fastest home run trotters in the league, but Chris Heisey is working hard to change the hearts and minds of Reds fans who miss his goofy smile and aww-shucksisms. Tony Gwynn Jr is the home run trot leader coming down the home stretch, but two of his are inside-the-parkers, so they shouldn't really count.

  • Jayson Stark has Joey Votto atop his NL MVP ballot as of right now
    With the caveat that anything can happen in the last month of the season. "Without Albert Pujols, the Cardinals are done -- but you could say that every year," one NL scout said. "So what you've got to decide is if anybody else has truly superseded him." That's never a fun call to make. But if the Cardinals keep fading, it could turn out to be easier than usual. Or not."

    The problem with this logic is that the MVP award is not about the last 10 years, or even the last 2. Sure, Albert Pujols is the greatest hitter of this generation. But the 2010 MVP isn't a generational award, it's just for this season. And this season, Joey Votto has been better. Not much better of course, but enough to make the decision. The final month of the season can change things, obviously, but right now for 2010 Votto is the man.

    Perhaps the more interesting section of this article is his synopsis of the AL Cy Young race. Stark picks Felix Hernandez, he of the lowly Mariners and the owner of a 10-10 record as this Reposter went to press. How can a pitcher with a .500 record even be considered for such an award!!??? Kudos to Stark for getting it, but the rest of the voters won't. CC Sabathia isn't a bad choice (he'll most likely join that exclusive club of African-American 20-game winners this season) but King Felix is this year's Zack Greinke.

  • Though park attendence is taking its traditional back-to-school dip
    TV ratings are setting new records. The game Wednesday night got a 12.76 rating in the Cincinnati area, which is good or something. Viewership peaked at 18.31 when So You Think You Can Embarrass Yourself? went to commercial break.

  • Baseball Prospectus, that august publication, has updated their NL power rankings
    Your Reds are currently running 3rd behind the Braves and Padres. "The week was perfect for the Reds, as they won five straight at the same time the Cardinals lost four in a row, expanding a lead that was already depressing St. Louis' fans to eight games. They can all but eliminate the Cards with a strong showing this weekend, as they play them in a three-game set at St. Louis. The biggest news of the week was Aroldis Chapman making his debut and hitting 103 mph with his fastball, striking out three batters in two innings in two perfect innings. He may be just what the Reds bullpen (ranked 11th in WXRL) needs for October."

  • The Red Hall of Fame and Museum continues their summer of celebrating the controversial figures of Reds past
    Last month's Marge Schott bobblehead turned some heads, so this month the Museum is giving away limited edition lithographs of erstwhile baseball god Pete Rose. The first 5,000 fans to visit the museum this month will receive the free gift, which is in commemoration of the 25th anniversary of Rose's eclipse of fellow doosh Ty Cobb's hit record.

  • Doug Gray gives us a pitch F/X breakdown of every one of Aroldis Chapman's pitches so far
    Every single slider he has thrown so far has resulted in a strike. I have nothing left to say.

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I am so sick of the whole "But Pujols has been better for 10 years" argument

MVP is about this season and this season alone, not about nostalgia. Joey Votto needs to be MVP as long as he maintains his current numbers.

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Sep 3, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Firsts are only for game threads

Sheesh, kids these days….

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

First

to say don’t use firsts in non-game threads.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

pssst

“Firsts” are only for game threads.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

jeeze

firsts are for game threads only.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 3, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummm, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this to you, but 'firsts' are for game threads only

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, did you know that firsts are only for game threads?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently, my pathetic attempt at nerdy humor was lost on you cool kids

I’m aware that it’s only for game threads-I was trying to be funny, but apparently things that seem funny to me on three hours of sleep aren’t actually funny to everyone else.

Never mind.

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Sep 3, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the second, apparently!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

jinx!

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

as well as the second, apparently

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that case, don't thank me ever again. It's against the rules.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine, give me your balls to stomp on

I hear they’re slick!

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're welcome justin!

as i mentioned in FO, this is my favorite reds-related article so far this year, so I wanted to share

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a terrifyingly plausible conclusion to be taken from that article.

Sign, Dusty! Quick!

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I didn't particularly like the idea of Dusty managing this team.

But if we were to hire TLR, I would have serious problems watching the games, at the least.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope LaJussa wants it.

Dusty will sign just to keep him from getting what he wants.

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Aw Jeez no no no no please God kill me now no no damn crap damnit to hell!"

Sometimes it’s ok to swear….

…you bastard.

If you want to see real bashing, check out Red Reporter…it’s crazy over there - hr

by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

from the article

It sure does sound like the rumors of bad blood between TLR and Jocketty are greatly exaggerated.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

While we're nickname brainstorming...

Can we please come up with something good to call this 2010 Reds team? I’d say they don’t need a nickname at all, but I’m so damn tired of Big Red Machine referencesa, like the title in this Jocketty article. Dear journalists: that was a very specific group of players. Use your brains and come up with something else. Did this happen in ’90, too? In ’99, they used the “Big Road Machine” moniker, which was at least mildly clever.

by the finest muffins on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cinsation!

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chapman...no...Votto...no

How about…………………………..ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….
Big Butter Jesus
The Creation Museum
Laynce is hurt, BP wounded, SloCab rehabbing, Harang washed up, Voltron in Dayton, Cairo in Egypt…
Dusty is dusty,,,what about some Dean and Jerry?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=video&cd=3&ved=0CEYQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3sE1t7wVpnw&rct=j&q=dean%20martin%20jerry%20lewis%20videos%20you%20tube&ei=whKBTKrYAYL98AaK7ZXXCg&usg=AFQjCNGkHaw7SbXh2b4jCrV2a_z5AswhqA&cad=rja

If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker

by Madville on Sep 3, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

that was fun, thanks

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

He’s really been under the radar with Reds fans this year, I believe. In fact, I wanted to buy a Cueto shirsey and I ended up having to buy a custom one on MLB.com because I couldn’t find one in stores, and they have like half the team in the stores.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been pretty great so far.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

or mormon tabernacle boys' choir

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think there is such a thing.

Or is that what we call it when the Harlem Boys Choir and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir get together?

by the finest muffins on Sep 3, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh,

I’m pretty sure the Mormon Tabernacle Choir would never get together with anyone from Harlem… they are cursed, after all.

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like the beginning of a joke

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Harlem Boys Choir and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir walk into a bar...

and the bartender looks up and says “you can’t be in here, you silly little kids”

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 3, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bartender continues, "You got some balls coming in here!"

One of the Globetrotters motions to the choir and says, “I’m pretty sure these boys are snipped.”

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

(throws pants)

Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So happy about that last link.

I was wondering what his pitches looked like in graph form, but have been too lazy(/stupid) to do it myself

by C.DeVore on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Why reference an August publication in September?

That’s so last month.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Sep 3, 2010 11:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

something else in the nickname department

Doc comparing Maddux to Chapman:

It’s the difference between witnessing Einstein and Vlad the Impaler

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/paul_daugherty/09/02/chapman/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0yTsEaD7o

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 3, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

the ratings info is inetrersting

how much, in raw numbers, is a 12.76 rating? I know a bit about teh cable ratings system but I’m not sure how to read these.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

0.1276 x Cincinnati's population :)

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

that is still quite a bit

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prediction:

              Votto wins MVP.

               Dusty wins Manager of the Year.

               Deal with it.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I've been satisfied with Dusty this season

though I mostly side with Brian B’s take on the importance of a Dusty-proofed roster.

My question to those who have become vocal Dusty boosters: it seems clear that Dusty plans to reassert Orlando Cabrera as an everyday starter, how will that affect your perception of Dusty’s managerial performance this season? Particularly if Cabrera returns to being a maw of suck at the top of the Reds’ line-up?

You may outfit the Trolley.

by Man Mountain on Sep 3, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats fine

id rather have janish’s defense, but i doubt it will make much of a difference

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Cabrera is batting 1 or 2 it will

it’s been pretty awesome not having a black hole up there lately

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabrera batting 2nd:

              .303/.343/.404

               NL average for 2 hole: .278/.337/.405

              So OC’s been slightly above average in the spot he should bat.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he's so good in the second spot

then why doesn’t he just always use that approach? Is “role” more important than performance?

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is real life

              Not APBA or Strat-O-Matic. Some players are more comfortable in certain spots and roles. Over OC’s career, he bats about 20 points higher with about the same increase in OBP batting 2nd. This is a consistent statistical fact. Musings about why are pretty useless.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for You

            But the guy’s 36 years old and I doubt that a career long statistical tendency is going to change much now.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume

          that you would at least admit that your characterization of OC’s performance at the top of the lineup as a “black hole” was incorrect as far as his stats batting 2nd?

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Statistical fact!

That’s not an oxymoron at all.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Sep 3, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Useless?

Why? Because you can’t explain it?

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because

            what difference does it make? The guy performs better batting 2nd and has consistently done so over his career. A bunch of internet posters thinking they’ve found the “reason” for this doesn’t change anything.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate internet posters!

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

what difference does any of this make?

we’re always internet posters, yet it seems important to you that I share your opinion.

Anyway, I wouldn’t call his performance in the 2-spot consistent:
OPS batting 2nd by year (since he really started batting 2nd):
2003 – .809
2004 – .699
2005 – .692
2006 – .750
2007 – .794
2008 – .610
2009 – .737
2010 – .747

Personally, I’ll take his overall historical record as a better indicator of what to expect from him. And honestly, I don’t particularly care if he bats 2nd, but I think your line of reasoning is flawed.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

            you take his “overall historical record” (I assume you mean in all batting spots) as a “better indicator” of how he’ll hit when he bats second then how he actually has hit when he bats second (including this year)?

             I guess that’s “interesting”.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

These numbers are for when he's batting second. And as you can see, they are far from convincing.

Slyde’s point is that his total historical record of hitting is much more predictive than 200 ABs of hitting second this year.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes got a better career OPS batting fourth and eighth than second

better SLG batting 4th, 6th, 7th and 8th. Other than batting average, the two-hole just seems to be another spot in the lineup. not sure why youre so certain he’s any better there

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You people are really reaching

               He’s batted 8th about 30 times since 2000 and 26 of those were in 2004.

                The “small sample size” of him batting second is a mere 2722 PAs.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction

               26 of the times he batted 8th were in 2005.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, well how about this? His second largest sample size is hitting leadoff, where he's OPSed .671

Why so much better at #2? Is the approach really that much different? I’d argue that hitting second you are always hitting in front of a really good hitter, meaning you get good pitches to hit. But that has nothing to do with Cabrera. Every hitter would benefit from hitting in front of Votto and would get a boost to their numbers.

So why don’t we put a better hitter in front of Votto, give them a big boost, and stick Cabrera down low. (Since even with the #2 spot boost, he’s a below average hitter)

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The #3 hitter

            is almost always the team’s best hitter. If your explanation was the only factor, than you’d expect #2 hitters to consistently have higher OBP and OPS than #1 hitters. Looking over the last 5 years of NL data, it doesn’t look that way to any significant degree. Certainly not a 20 point difference.

               How is he a “below average hitter” for #2 when his numbers are slightly better than league average for that spot?

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

in 200 PAs they are. I'm not going to give much credence to that.

And you’re not thinking about it the correct way. You wouldn’t expect all #2 hitters to have better numbers than the #1 hitters, because often the #1 hitters are better players. What you’d expect is for any single player to be better in the 2 spot than the 1. I’m too lazy/busy to find that out, but I bet it holds true.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Royce Clayton back!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

BP's numbers

            are down the page; how’s your theory holding up with that data set?

              Basically, you’re guessing without any evidence to back it up.

               If I were to “muse”, I’d say that OC is able to hit to the hole with a runner on 1st quite effectively (.308 lifetime) and you get a lot more opportunities to do that batting 2nd than 1st. The league average is about 20 points higher in those situations than with no one on but OC’s are about twice that.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Muse.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about "muse"?

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not so much. They're too sarcastic for me.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kids these days

You have no taste in music, do you?

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, I usually just listen to it.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Talked to this woman at a party...

Friend of my niece. She found out I like Pearl Jam (I was drunk; I don’t remember how), and proceeded to regale me with minutiae about the band for at least 30 minutes.

Fast forward 3 weeks – she and her husband buy a car from me; I go out to lunch with them and my niece. We get on the subject of internet radio, and she asks if I listen to Pandora. I, of course, act surprised that she’d listen to it, as it would take so much time to “unlike” all of the non-PJ songs; my niece then makes a crack about her listening to PJ 24 hours a day. The husband, though, gets in the money quote:

“No, she only listens 23 hours a day. The other hour is spent writing out lyrics, them eating the paper so that the words become a part of her.”

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What the heck, man?

Muse is great. Their first albums were amazing.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

lifehouse is awesome too

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Gin Blossoms are better.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you like the rascal flatts?

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really.

A little too country for me.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

leave lifehouse out of this

I’m fairly certain they’ve done nothing to you

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 6, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great now we are never going to get Hanley Rameriez!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the 19 point difference in OPS isn't all that overwhelming

And of course there would be exceptions. But how about this year? Those numbers are for his career, but how about when Joey Votto was hitting behind him? (which is what we are ultimately arguing about) His OPS is over 100 points higher this year batting second (also in a SSS).

I’m tired of this discussion. At the end of the day, Cabrera isn’t a good hitter and I don’t want him at the top of the lineup getting more PAs than guys like Hanigan, Bruce, etc.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabera isn't a good player period

After Felipe Lopez we have had Clayton/Gonzo/Cabrera…Yuck

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

No wonder we think Janish is so great...

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

at the same time, his 2-hole numbers are skewed by 544 PA in 2007 when he hit .324

i think that was certainly more anomaly than indicative of a different approach. i really dont care about any of this; as i said, i dont think it makes much difference if cabrera hits instead of janish or if either hits eighth or second. but i think youre being a bit stubborn in your insistence that cabrera absolutely must hit second to maximize his potential

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you MEAN by "you people"!?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do YOU mean 'you people'?

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely done, boys.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean, 'boys'?!?!

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to objectify and diminish you!

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mission accomplished.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy both of those activities

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I mean, he's already a seventh.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sharp wit, andro.

I think the key was your measured response.

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely her forte

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you MEAN PEOPLE

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, technically, I'm more interested in most recent performance than overall

but maybe we should just bat him 4th. After all, that’s where he hits best, right?

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think we should bat him

about every 4th day

He fixes the cable?

by Colin Auscapee on Sep 3, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't batted 4th

                since 2004. So much for “recent performance”.

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

cuz I really want him batting “fourth”

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but the Red Sox won a world series that year!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should change the blog's motto to "Correlation does not equal Causation"

(and I know you were kidding)

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's racist!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all right,


cuz it’s all white.

Gnight, Slim

by supergrover on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabera might of been the only starter on that team to not take steroids

Just saying

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RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quiet you!

I want to keep my blind hatred of the Red Sox!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nerd Fight!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi there!

I’m an internet poster, and I have a very good reason for OCab’s better number hitting #2: blind luck. His BABIP is at least 25 points higher when hitting 2nd than when hitting in any other spot.

Now, 3 seconds of thinking will come up with one other reason: The infield (especially the 1B) will be positioned differently because there’s more likely to be a guy on base (you’d hope). The effect is still the same, though – he really isn’t somehow imbued with special 2-hole powers, he’s just lucky (either BABIP lucky or lucky to be hitting against non-optimum defenses).

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by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Ole BABIP "lucky" Bullshit

             I remember before the season how the BABIP argument “proved” that Joey Votto was not going to have as good a season this year as in 2009 (he was “lucky” last year).

               How’s that theory working out?

by no1marauder on Sep 3, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone explain the value of BABIP to me please?

The fact of the matter is, some guys just hit the ball harder than others. Joey Votto and Paul Janish can both hit a 92 mph fastball in the hole, but Votto’s gets through because he consistently makes better contact and is stronger, causing the ball to travel faster.

I don’t get it.

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically

Both pitchers and hitters have a BABIP “skill”. A large deviation from their career number is a sign of good/bad luck, and you should expect a regression towards their career numbers over time.

For both, “skill” is HR, K, and BB rates, and those rates are both much more projectable and more static than BABIP.

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by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That isn't clear

BABIP is going to vary much more than HR, BB, or K rates for both hitters and pitchers (once ballpark and league are accounted for). You can say that X player is going to have Y performance with more confidence when talking about HR, BB, and K than AVE/OBP/SLG because of that variance in BABIP.

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by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, no

I was trying to clarify what I said. If it looks like I was arguing with myself, I failed miserably.

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by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

That wasn’t the argument at all.

The argument was that his .372 BABIP was likely unsustainable, given his previous performances. In fact, it has been lower this year – .357 (his career BABIP is .351). Bit his HR, K, and BB rates have all improved, so he’s been a better hitter despite his drop in BABIP.

I’ve found that a basic understanding of what you’re talking about helps your credibility.

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by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Also, denouncing someone's scientificly-derived point as "bullshit" because you are ignorant about it

will often earn you RR mockery.

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

and a member's only jacket

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why

because you don’t understand it?

It’s a pretty simple concept, and a number of people have studied it and all showed the same thing. Whether you choose to believe it or not…well, that’s on you. There are people who choose to believe the earth is flat.

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Sep 4, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample size.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, to your Votto argument

His BABIP is actually down a fair bit from last year. The huge increase in his numbers this year is largely due to the crazy power surge.

We’ll have to wait and see if that’s a one year blip or if Votto is truly the best hitter in baseball.

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, to your Votto argument

His BABIP is actually down a fair bit from last year. The huge increase in his numbers this year is largely due to the crazy power surge.

We’ll have to wait and see if that’s a one year blip or if Votto is truly the best hitter in baseball.

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about phillips

im asking because im too lazy to look up and you can explain the data better anyway. It seems that Phillips takes a totally different approach when he bats 1-2 than 3-4-5 and hits much better. is that true?

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a good point. My untrained eye certainly sees Phillips hit differently 1-2 than he did in the 4 spot.

The numbers indicate he’s been best over his career at #4, but I don’t ever want to see him back there.

For Cabrera, I don’t know if he’s approaching anything differently, but it’s gotta be easier hitting in front of Votto than just about anywhere else, especially for a hacker like him. He’s gonna see lots of hittable pitches, and he’s going to swing at them. I’d still hit him 8th, if at all.

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But what I really think is happening is that his numbers are more acceptable to you in the lead-off spot. Here’s the breakdown in the 1-2 and 4 spots, where he has batted most in his career:
1 – .273/.323/.450
2 – .275/.319/.436
4 – .280/.330/.462

Not a whole lot of difference that isn’t likely attributable to sample.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

just as i thought

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christ on an invisible monkey, people

It’s not hard to figure out why Cabrera hits so well in the 2 spot.

Given the option, do you throw HIM a fastball, or Votto?

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why you should follow him on twitter. He made an announcement about it and everything!

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do follow him

doesn’t mean I actually read anything he writes.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'mma give you a serious suppository if you don't shut yer yap!!!!!

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got a sattelite radio receiver up your ass?

Skank.

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This comment is rated XM.

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by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably not, but to me that's not the point

A manager’s job is to do a whole bunch of things and make a whole bunch of decisions that, taken alone, don’t make much of a difference. It’s the sum total of those decisions and moves that have an impact.

Some of the decisions are tough ones, but it seems to me that the obvious decisions should be gotten right, and it seems pretty obvious that Janish should at the least get half the playing time. I doubt it happens, but I hope I’m pleasantly surprised.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to work through my feelings about Dusty as a manager

(with a half pint of Ben and Jerry’s and season 1 ofGossip Girl)

I wonder how much of our happiness with Dusty is that he hasn’t been able to go full Dusty (i.e., playing inferior veterans willfully in spite of the evidence). Although he’s gotten to do that with Gomes, Cabrera has been the real mote in his vision this season.

I’m sort of with Boobs in that I guess it doesn’t matter that much, but I’m dreading the return of Cabrera and all he represents in Dusty’s mind. To me at least, an OCab shit sandwich at the top of the line-up for the remainder of the season could totally obliterate the goodwill I’ve slowly developed for Dusty.

I’m just wondering if other RR’s affections for Baker are as fickle as mine are.

You may outfit the Trolley.

by Man Mountain on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spotted:

Sabr-sympathizer devouring Steven Colbert’s Americone Dream, trying to determine why Serena left Connecticut!

I’m more with boobs on SS. I’d prefer Janish and it’s worth finding out if he can really hit 270/350. But I don’t think benching him for Cabrera for the last month will be of any consequence.

by ken on Sep 3, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

boobs on a shortstop ?

do you think that would help ?

Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Sep 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd vote for Bud Black

Big league baseball players say that the most important part of a manager’s job is the part that the fans don’t see. So I guess I’ll take into account the fact that the record has improved every year that Dusty has been at the wheel and call him a success.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

At this point, I'm willing to put my trust in both Walt & Dusty

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll trust Walt to build a team

and hope Dusty will use it right. not sure if I trust Dusty’s decisions yet… although I think they’re getting a lot better

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

you trust The Dusty?

hasn’t Mads taught you ANYTHING?!

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 6, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have already started therapy

My therapist is confused as to what exactly I’m trying to deal with. Come to think of it, so am I.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i started a fight slyde!

sorry to make more work for your moderators while i was away

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a pretty decent articulation of veteran influence by Rolen

In re: Reds bouncing back from humiliating losses over the course of the season:

“I think early we had to learn how to lose,” Scott Rolen said. “With young teams, generally speaking, if you lose it’s like a morgue. Then you get with a veteran team, and there is respectful quiet, but the clubhouse eventually picks up. You aren’t going to throw a party, but you can talk, watch games, be normal humans again. By the time you get on the bus, you are talking to people. I think that’s important. I think carrying losses around and sleeping on it and bringing it back to the ballpark isn’t good. You need a fresh start every day. The best way to have a fresh start is to end fresh.”

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah,

you gotta learn to lose. For a while.

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by Cy Schourek on Sep 3, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

good advice I got one time

I was complaining to a friend that my guitar skills were…. not what I would have liked them to be.

He said, “You know what your problem is? You haven’t learned how to suck.”

I’m still not happy about my guitar skills, but I’m learning.

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by bbjones on Sep 4, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda funny

I think fans need to learn to lose too.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no question at all

but learning to lose is less difficult as a fan when you have a team that bounces back well.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I've got my terminal degree in Loss Management

Rolen usually has a pretty level-headed take on things. I do bristle when baseball fundits talk about him “setting the tone” for the Reds or being the spiritual MVP, but it’s at least anecdotally true that he’s been a good clubhouse influence. I have no doubt that’s played a role in the Reds bounce-backs from several gut-punch series.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw you

I hate losing. I am, honestly, the worst loser (not biggest loser, but I’m probably close there too) you know, and I’m never going to change.

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you don't seem to panic when the Reds lose

and that’s more what I was getting at. You can hate losing, as long as you don’t take it into the next game. That’s what Rolen was getting at.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because

…before this year, they just weren’t that good. I fully expected them to lose half (or more) of their games.

Even as just a fan, I can carry a loss much longer than is healthy (I’m still trying to make excuses for OSU-Florida).

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Sep 3, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The correct answer to the question in the title is

No.

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by Ash on Sep 3, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't know

Scott Rolen is pretty swell.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 3, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yoooouuuuurrr backyard friend,

Ryan Hanigan is pretty neat as well.

\sorry for the Nickelodeon reference.

Gnight, Slim

by supergrover on Sep 3, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

pablo'd for the backyardigans refrence ...

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by joshuar9476 on Sep 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chapman's slider

There is ridiculous horizontal and vertical break on it. It moves way more than any other slider I’ve ever seen, on top of moving faster than a lot of sliders too.

I read that right handers can’t pick up on the rotation of the ball, so they really have no idea when the pitch is coming in whether it’s going to stay straight or dive in on them. Add to that the extremely quick reaction time required to catch up with the FB, and he doesn’t sound like a very fun guy to have to face.

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Gray and I were talking about it last night

and were wondering where a batter would even guess to find Chapman’s slider in his swing.

As an aside, I thought it was interesting that Chapman had to face Craig Counsell in his first major league appearance. Counsell is alleged to have — anecdotally — superhuman pitch recognition.

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by Man Mountain on Sep 3, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is true-

The outstretched bat in Counsell’s stance serves as a kind of primitive antenna.

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

My strategy would be

…. if I could see the pitch, that likely means its < 100mph. Therefore, its most likely a slider. Therefore, I don’t swing and just take my chances.

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by TheC on Sep 3, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

a solid plan!

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

or just keep swinging all the time

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen

I’m just saying that would be my plan. I’m not saying its a good plan. But then, I haven’t seen a plan that works yet.

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by TheC on Sep 3, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

more guys should bunt

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if he can get a hitter to a 2-2, 1-2, or 0-2 count, slider is pretty much game over?

What, in your opinion, would be the best pitch for him to add to his arsenal? Sinker?

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The changeup could be pretty deadly if he can get the feel for it.

I’m afraid a curveball would put unnecessary strain on his arm, but imagine facing a guy who comes at you with 97-98 mph heat, then the next pitch comes in looking like that again, only for the bottom to fall out, or for it to come in and dip and dive either away from LH or under the hands of RH.

That’d be a pretty nasty arsenal.

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The slider seems to achieve the purpose of the curveball

There’s quite a bit of dive on that pitch and it’s already really hard for hitters to recognize.

I’d guess a changeup would be a great pitch for him, but not if it’s a 90 mph changeup like Straburg’s

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It probably would be. The point of a changeup is to keep the arm speed the same as the FB, make it look like a FB, but it suddenly drops off and slows

It’s probably not possible to throw the FB 98 and the CH 84. Volquez has one of the best FB/CH combos around, and there’s about an 11-12 mph difference between the two. That’s probably the best we could hope for, but that’s all you’d need.

If Chapman could get the changeup to be even average, you’d have a guy with 2 plus-plus pitches and a third average one. That’s a pretty good recipe for success.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with a changeup that fast, at least with Strasburg

is that it comes in at hitting speed ~90, and if you have guys behind a 103 mph fastball, they’ll be right on 90mph changes

i guess it is likely that chapman could use it effectively if he can locate it, just as a tertiary offering

i wouldn’t mind him using a vareity of fastballs (cut, sinking, 2-seam, 4-seam) on top of the slider and something slower, but like you said, I am worried about an injury risk with a curve

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure about that

if they are geared up for 103, 90 will seam like 80.

Did you notice one of the swings against Chapman’s slider, the guy swang and the ball was half way to the plate.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 3, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

swung

but, early on with strasburg, lots of the homers he gave up were off the change

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS. Also, Strasburg's slider isn't all that great, but that's not because of the velocity. It's just not as consistent of a pitch as his other 2.

Justin is right. The important thing is not the actual speeds but the difference between them. Also, the vertical break on the changeup.

You’ve heard of a “hanging breaking ball?” (ravenriley’d) That’s usually when a change doesn’t drop but just sits there at 80-some miles an hour in the heart of the plate.

The velocity difference from the FB, the vertical break, and the pitcher’s ability to disguise it are what make a changeup effective. Actual speed of the pitch is mostly irrelevant.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, meant Strasburg's changeup isn't all that great.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess this is the more likely explanation than the speed.

It just seems like a 90mph changeup is asking for trouble, because that’s as fast as a typical fastball.

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

strasburg is also a righty

this stuff coming from a lefty, with his weird 3/4 arm slot, makes it even harder still to pick up on the ball out of his hand

by UncleWeez on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Change. Calling Mr. Soto.

Mr. Mario Soto.

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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 3, 2010 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

reply'd

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

nm

i thought this was supposed to be in reference to my del TFH comment earlier. i like to think it at least gave you inspiration

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one that hits Holiday in the ding ding

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Sep 3, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

By all means, tell us what he's saying!

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

they pad their record against shitty teams

theyre not the yankees. the yankees have cc sabathia and the reds dont have anyone close to sabathia! 19 wins in the AL East! The Reds dont have anyone close to Mariano Rivera either! You can tell me the Reds are as good as the Yankees, but Im not buying it!!

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Replace the Reds with any other MLB team and you could still probably make that argument.

He’s just trolling for listeners, and apparently it’s working.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's kind of a dumbass.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, the first time I saw someone here mention Colin Cowherd, I had no idea who he was.

 Then someone posted a pic and I went, “Ohhhh, it’s that douche bag from that awful Sportsnation show”. Cowherd is bottom-of-the-barrel sports journalism, the quintessential sports media hack, and through his mini feud with Paul Daugherty, he actually made me root for P-Doc (I feel so dirty). Nothing he says is worth the oxygen he inhaled in order to speak it.

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by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yet he got a bunch of riled-up Reds fans to pay attention to him and listen to his show, so he wins.

Which is all he really cares about. He’ll forget he had this whole vendetta in 6 months.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it works

i like him!

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are one of my favorite folks here boobs

but i cannot for the life of me understand how anyone with discriminating tastes could like that guy. my boss listens to him nearly every day and im thinking about filing a complaint with HR.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks! youre one of my favorites too

i think i like him because i became familiar with him when he was making pretty innocuous statements. one of the first times I listened to him he was talking about how he likes the new menus at yankee stadium and how people need to get off his back for wanting a glass of wine at a baseball game. It was just elitist enough and seemed like something different from what most radio guys would say. since then i catch him sparingly and i rarely hear him say anything that really rubs me the wrong way. Ive heard that he says a lot of terrible things, but ive never heard him say them with my own ears.

so i chalk this reds stuff up to trolling and it doesnt really bother me that much.

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he's trolling

but that’s not what bothers me. i get that he does it for ratings. what bothers me is his near-complete lack of knowledge of baseball. it’s pretty clear that he doesnt watch much baseball, or even understand some of the fundamental aspects of the game both on and off the field. i dont mind when he talks about football because he seems to know what he’s talking about most of the time, especially college football, but when he talks about baseball i want to reach through the internet and choke the bitch.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he doesnt really know anything about baseball

but i mean, i dont really listen to him for baseball analysis. He’s not a total hack; he does enough research every day to be knowledgeable about the issues of the day. But he definitely takes a novice approach to baseball.

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me. He's not doing any of that research.

He has interns and junk to do that. Cowherd has probably never done a minute of research in years.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, he did have to find out about this raven riley thing all the kids are talking about.

He probably spent hours on the internet researching that.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

researched himself raw

\i still don’t know what the ravenriley’d thing means

\raw’d

Gnight, Slim

by supergrover on Sep 3, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hyperbole of course.

But I kind of doubt he does much of the stat finding.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems to elitist to be bothered with any kind of research.

He’d probably rather leave that to the peons.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

so would you if you could

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't constantly demean those other people.

The guy’s just kind of a prick. He’s a self-important asshole who doesn’t realize that if he died… the world would keep on turning just like it has been.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

he seems pretty important to me

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Who ever heard of Joey Votto before the All Star Vote?"

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

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by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cincinnati isn't for real though Crolfer!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeesh

No wonder he does radio.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

he does tv too

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it isn't available in HD.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colin Cowherd is a douche to end all douches

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know pigeons could do research!

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think speaking authoritatively about a subject you know nothing about

is the definition of a hack.

not to mention his stubbornness. he changes his mind about as often as i change the fuel filter in my car.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

only when it's convenient?

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like the definition of a "fraud".

I don’t mind him being critical. The use of “fraud” is saddening and maddening.

\english has words
\they have meanings

Gnight, Slim

by supergrover on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Cowherd

bitch about the length of MLB games. Any time someone says thay they don’t know what the fuck they are talking about.

Baseball is fine, don’t fuck it up.

@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Sep 3, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yet another ungreenable comment. Bummer, dude.

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Baseball is fine, don’t fuck it up"

I don’t know what Cowherd has proposed, but other sports change their rules to make the game more enjoyable. Baseball shouldn’t be an exception. Limiting batters from stepping out of the box would be one of my first moves.

by ken on Sep 3, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you have to give the batter a little leeway to disrupt the

pitcher’s rhythm, since they’ve got the advantage in deciding when the ball is coming to the plate. But yeah, stay in the box. And award a ball to the batter for excessive stopdowns by the pitcher.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would mandate cheerleaders

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

God, no. And no marching bands either.

by the finest muffins on Sep 3, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

NERDS!

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by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Revenge of the Nerds reference?

1 rec.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I'm not very interested in football either

I like basketball better as my non-baseball go to sport, but I do enjoy an occasional football game.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Is this the first time anyone

Incomplete thoughts suck, they have stolen many many greens from me in the past

@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Sep 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never thought of the tales of Beatrix Potter

as such horror stories of schizophrenia.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.

by andromache on Sep 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like Charlie Babbit!

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean Charlie Babbage?

If yes, type ‘1,’ if no, type ‘0.’

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are 10 types of people in the world....

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by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of having to read a post twice

\

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I bet he'd be pretty good in the 2 hole

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andorra the Anal Explorer!

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

winnar!

AAE for short

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by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then teach the man a forkball.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds lineup...

2B Phillips
SS Cabrera
RF Bruce
LF Balentien
1B Edmonds
CF Nix
3B Cairo
C Miller
P Leake

Oh wait, that’s the Reds DL lineup.

Still beats the Pirates 2 outta 3.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Is Miller on the DL?

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, the Corkster is all good.

I just needed a Catcher for my fake team, so I opted for a guy not normally on the bench for good measure.

Still, not a bad starting lineup….

/2000-2009 Reds’d.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW I don't think Votto v Pujols in 2010 is very close either

175 wRC+ to 165 with a virtual tie on advanced defensive metrics. I think that would be enough for Votto by itself, but (presumably) winning the division – while I think it’s overvalued in MVP decisions – seems a fine tiebreaker to me, if there were a tie. And tiebreaking beyond that, Votto’s also leading in (dubious) “clutch” stats.

It would take a pretty epic heater/cooler combo on both individual and team levels to reverse the polarity.

by astrostl on Sep 3, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

This line of reasoning employs logic,

advanced and useful metrics of evaluation, and does not contain any reference to past performance or events and focuses only on the discussion at hand. As such, it could hardly be farther from the internal debate being had among the actual MVP voters.

Votto had better win this MVP, unless something crazy happens in the final weeks (Carlos Gonzalez is on a crazy run, and the Rockies could go to the playoffs too).

by kcgard2 on Sep 3, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For traditionalists

Votto still currently has Pujols on BA, RBI, and the Reds are looking set to take the division. I think Cargo is an interesting consideration, but Votto’s still got SI cover notoriety and the Reds making the playoffs is a bigger deal than the Rockies. I still think Votto is in the pole position, from both schools of thought.

by astrostl on Sep 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ Gonzalez's road numbers.

Give it to him, and soon the likes of Dante Bichette and Matt Holliday will be demanding one as well.

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget Vinny!

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually getting kind of tired of reading about Chapman

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want him to go anywhere and I understand why the press is all over him. But I haven’t exactly read anything new about him in any of these articles since he came up to the majors.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Sep 3, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

If I wrote you a check for a million dollars, you would probably complain about the color of the inkpen I used.

@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Sep 3, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

Hot Pink is kind of unprofessional, if you ask me.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well no

But if you wrote me several dozen checks I would….

Come to think of it, never mind

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Sep 3, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best play of the year in my opinion.

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by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it really was

i wish i could have been in the ballpark for that play.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 3, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course for the Reds.

No other team matters damnit!

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by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

forgot about that, sorry

by kcgard2 on Sep 3, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

that really was exciting

a, spectacular play. A friend of mine from out of town hadn’t been to a major league game in about 15 years and that was his first gme back. It got him interested un baseball again it was so exciting.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like those uniforms

and Ramon Hernandez. He got some guff last year, indirectly, for taking PT away from Hanigan and getting the then-seemingly-unsubstantiated “clutch” tag.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fina rec this

just because you reminded me of the Canyonero, which is beyond hilarious.

He fixes the cable?

by Colin Auscapee on Sep 3, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think that word means what you think it means...

@mattklinker: Tim Kurkjian just said Nyjer Morgan was not happy because he is not making a lot of money in the Major Leagues. Oxymoron anyone?

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

You keep using that word

I do not think it means what you think it means

"Fuck it, we'll do it live."

by DTFH91 on Sep 3, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

Didn’t read your subject line

"Fuck it, we'll do it live."

by DTFH91 on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I kind of raised an eyebrow at that too.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 3, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 3, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

It took me a minute.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took me longer than a minute.

I was definitely looking for great meaning in that picture.

by the finest muffins on Sep 3, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe this will help...

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

ack !

Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Sep 3, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

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by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm
mrLeCure
  
I’ve really been laying off of the sodey pop lately, but this dr pepper is everything I thought it would be, so is this pickle from JJ’s!!
6 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

Seems like someone’s got the munchies.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Chapman and Lecure have become my favorite Reds in less than a week!

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, dude? You might want to change the year on your sig.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry I haven't been on here for awhile

In 2013 winning baseball will be back in Cincy!

RIP Norris Hopper's and Juan Castro's MLB career

by Zach K on Sep 3, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not what I meant. I'm pretty sure there's going to be winning baseball in Cincy before 2013.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

/Manny'd

"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."

by beasleymachine on Sep 3, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so were the umpire's. It was a ridiculous call, and when Roddick politely challenged it to the chair umpire, he had no explanation

but was basically like “Don’t know what to tell you, just shut up and play.”

Andy definitely crossed the line (and it cost him the match, IMO), but he certainly had reason to be upset.

I’m bummed. We’re going to the Open this weekend and I was kinda hoping to see him.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was far from a ridiculous call. he had no reason to be upset

it was a foot fault. but when he pressed the line judge, she accidentally told him the wrong foot. So what? He knew it was his left foot; he said himself that he’s never moved his right foot on a serve in his career. So what was the point of belittling a woman he doesn’t know and is probably making 1000 times less to be there than he is? because she got nervous and said “right” instead of “left”? it was ugly.

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you spark a fracas (or even a row) in the middle of a match,

please make sure it ends up on youtube. I thoroughly enjoyed the one that came out yesterday.

Also, NB: there is barely any security in Arthur Ashe Stadium.

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I almost did last year. Two douchenozzles were shouting the entire match and wouldn't shut up, even during the points.

I told them to shut up (kind of nicely) and they were pissed. I would’ve been tougher about it but there were 2 of them, they were both huge (I’m not), and I was with my wife. Eventually they left, I think because they were grumpy that people stopped laughing at their jokes. Guess that’s what happens when you sit in the cheap seats.

This year we paid a bit more, hopefully we can avoid the riff-raff.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

areuserious?

At the US Open?

I thought they were really strict about stuff like that.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

no matter how strict they are, it’s still in Queens.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you referring to

this?

Nothing so sad as watching a geriatric try to summon his old strength only to go tumbling…

{cue Pedro/Zimmer}

by Gapper on Sep 3, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is all true, especially in the cheap, way high up seats

You can’t hear anything from up there on the court, so at times it can be a free for all.

Having said that, we’ve been the last 5 years and that was the only problem we’ve ever had.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, the aussie has turned rowdie in recent years thanks to battles between serbs and bosnians

that chair-and-table fight last year was one of the best ethnic clashes ever

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yuh huh!

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he's definitely one of the more endearing sports personalities.

He’s self-deprecating, honest, and clearly somewhat intelligent.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

did you see him host SNL a few years back? that was almost as bad as Tom Brady.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that's a tough gig. Very few people, even comedic actors, are funny on SNL

Partly it’s because the skits usually are built around the cast and the guest has to try and fit in to it.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

and the writing is atrocious. i submit that i could gather a dozen RR members and write a funnier sketch comedy show than SNL does nowadays.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This too. People always talk about a certain cast being the best, but it really is all about the writing

You can bet that people who had Tina Fey writing for them looked a lot funnier than they really are.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should just let Seth Meyers write everything.

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by ZJiff30 on Sep 3, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Comedy begins and ends with the writing. I hate hate hate amateur improv groups. Improv is great when it’s performed by people who know what they’re doing. Not so much when it’s just a bunch of people too lazy to write something funny.

by thevole on Sep 3, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't follow tennis closely

but to me, from afar, he seems like the sportsworld version of John Mayer.

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely not accurate

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

usually

except for the occasions when he treats line judges and umpires like he did the other day

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's also a dick

i’ve heard this from numerous people who have worked with him, met him (including myself), ball boy-ed for him, etc.

by UncleWeez on Sep 3, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welp, we're about to find out how Dusty handles the SS situation

Cabrera’s been activated, and Matt Maloney and Jordan Smith were also called up.

That is one deep, solid bullpen.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish we had some outfielders...

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like they should throw Louisville a bone and give Valaika back

when BP returns, though he’d still be useful.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

To answer your question, for tonight

Stubbs 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Hanigan 2
Heisey 9
Janish 6
Arroyo 1

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by Slyde on Sep 3, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

bring hova baaaaaaaack

i really hope he gets better soon i like seeing him hit a million mile home runs

by UncleWeez on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn you. Beat me by a minute

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, she was pretty time-specific. :P

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd really like to see Heisey

crush the lefty, but he has been oddly hitting righties better than lefties. Garcia has also been incredibly good, so I doubt I’ll get to see that tonight.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

omg

Janish is playing even though Slo-Cab is available?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty always waits an extra day

after their available I think. Get ready to see Cabrera tomorrow!

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And damn near every day after that, I'm afraid.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

JCH retweeted this today (or yesterday?)
If Grammar Nazis are a thing, improper usage of “you’re” is their Jew.

There/their/they’re bother me more…but I’m guilty of doing it too.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

that is such an inappropriate way to express that. However I normally hate that their/they’re thing more than the your/you’re too and just slipped up. I typo a lot, but I try to avoid those kind of errors

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was from @JasonMustain, I highly recommend him

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 3, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'll #fuckingfollow him.

I literally LoL’d.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually as a Grammar Nazi myself

I’m just as offended by “I could care less.” Guess what, that means you care something about it, nitwit.

“I couldn’t care less” always.

Oh and the consistent misusage of rein vs. reign drives me nuts as well

"Dusty Baker is the best manager in the game....until the game actually starts."
— Doug Gottleib, ESPN radio, June 3, 2010.

by cesarhernandez on Sep 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sheesh...

everyone knows it’s rain!

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

man mountain is an "I could care less" apologist

he’ll get in your ass!

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pause

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I want the Reds to be the best team in the NL tonight is going to be great

Reds vs Cardinals

And local boy Cory Luebke makes his MLB debut for the Padres. I’m a massive Padres fan tonight.

by blark0202 on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty cool day for my sister

she won a huge autographed replica Votto SI Cover poster from Jamie Ramsey and the Reds. She’s on cloud nine.

by MixFMKyle on Sep 3, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

congrats to her!

how did that contest work>? did you have to submit a photoshopped version of the cover or something? I wasn’t sure. If the picture needed to be recreated, though, I might have gone for something extremely ostentatious and done a classic portrait painting. Votto would pose with a sword instead of a bat, I’d put a laurel wreath on his head in place of the hat and have him wear a toga with red detailing . All you would have to do at that point is put a nice Ionic column in the background with some rich colored drapery.

And if that is too ove the top, you could do a Gainsborough style portrait and throw a dog and horse in the painting for good measure.

Of course, I’m not at all a good painter, so Muffins, who is a very good artist, would have to do all the work ;)

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think

You had to send in a photo of yourself posed like Joey.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i'm probably going to miss some of tonights game

Lets make it 9 guys, i would love a 21 game magic number.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 3, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Lineup:

Stubbs CF
Phillips (!) 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Hanigan C
Heisey RF
Janish(!) SS
Arroyo P

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

STL Beat guys

claim Reds didn’t have Cueto come with team. Say Reds citing “family emergency” as reason.

Cardinal fans calling bs. Not sure why it is a big deal to them, he wasn’t going to pitch anyway.

by MixFMKyle on Sep 3, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

if that is true, are the Reds really worried that Cardinals fans would go after Cueto?

or are they worried that the Cardinals players would? It seems strange not to bring him along for those reasons. I can’t think of a situation where the players could harm him, the fans maybe, but that is also not very likely.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would Cardinal fans even care?

It’s really none of their business.

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by RedsMasochist on Sep 3, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were all up in arms about it here.

Get one really drunk and who knows. They aren’t the ‘best fans in baseball’ anymore. I can tell you that.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They actually used to be pretty good.

Once they won that world series though… unbearable.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it really is a family emergency

then that’s a seriously dick move on Cards fans’ part. In other news, water is wet. Regardless, I hope everything’s OK with Johnny and his fam

by UncleWeez on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'd whine if Cueto was there, and now they'll whine because he's not there.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Surprise!

He doesn’t know what light rail is!

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Sep 3, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's so gross about that?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS is grosser

OMG!

@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

eyewww

You’d think the adult sons would have noticed the smell, even if dad kept a sheet over their mom.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off days suck cuz there's no game

Days after off days suck, too, cuz there’s no recap to go back through in an attempt to guage the level of drunkeness of RR’s.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Sep 3, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

believe me, I was hammered.

A horse we own won a race in NY yesterday.

I celebrated.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats

I’ve got one running at Calder tomorrow.

It's summertime - go Reds!

by NYCCats on Sep 3, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice. MSW at the Spa yesterday.

best of luck to ya.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Always nicer to win at the ‘toga, but I’ll take what I can get.

It's summertime - go Reds!

by NYCCats on Sep 3, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

than just won an autographed ball from mall maloney and corky miller for being his 1000th follower.

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

matt maloney, too

Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, "his" meaning maloney's

i need to start proofreading my posts

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by boobs on Sep 3, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This ball will be appropriately misspelled.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

that rocks

everyone is winning! i want to win too!

by jsl413 on Sep 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another way to put it.....

Cubandolero has never thrown a pitch for a ball under 101 mph.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Sep 3, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Family emergency for Cueto?

Timing is fishy so color me skeptical. But whatever…no big deal.

"Dusty Baker is the best manager in the game....until the game actually starts."
— Doug Gottleib, ESPN radio, June 3, 2010.

by cesarhernandez on Sep 3, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree there's no reason for him to be there if not pitching

But unless it truly is a family issue, why be coy about it? Just be honest that you don’t want him in StL.

"Dusty Baker is the best manager in the game....until the game actually starts."
— Doug Gottleib, ESPN radio, June 3, 2010.

by cesarhernandez on Sep 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe there's been death threats

and eventhough they are bogus why take any chances if he’s not pitching anyway.

by featherman on Sep 3, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah if there were death threats

they probably just want to avoid the stress of worrying about it. I’d be surprised if there were no death threats toward BP though.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

any word on Bruce?

I didn’t see anythign on the twitter feeds

by Red_Poodle on Sep 3, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The Fay

said he thinks Jay Bruce’s injury isn’t serious, or the Reds would have called up an OFer from Louisville today.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have to be Balentine

or someone about 2 weeks outs AA ball, the bats outfield is thin.

by Eastwindquinn on Sep 3, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

good lord

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 3, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dorn!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 3, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get in front of the damn ball!

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Sep 3, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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