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The chatter of the weekend at the driveway mini-bonfire was What's The Most Overrated Stuff Out There?   You know, the stuff that garners good publicity that just isnt your cup of tea.  I found it most interesting that the most divisive category was music.  No shocker to me, I've said for years that people publically state they like bands and singers that they really, deep down, don't care for all that much in an attempt to look  hipper and cooler.  

(as an aside, I'm really, really, really glad the Reds are back from San Diego AND that the Black Keys concert is over.  Now....let's get back to focusing 100% on winning baseball.  No way in hell Pete Rose, Tony Perez, and Joe Morgan would have spent needless hours fawning over such a concert the last 10 days of a pennant season. Have I mentioned I'm glad Joey Votto doesn't Tweet?) 

 

Back to Overrated Stuff: 

Dunkin Donuts Coffee -   I know a ton of my NE pals disagree.  But, it really sucks.  Tastes like bark to me.  

Borat - sorry tHan.  Not one of my faves, even on repeated viewings.  Can't wait to see Bruno and see if it slides under the bar set by Borat.   

The Shack - written by some guy.  just unreadable.  probably the worst book selection by bible study groups since "The Five People You Meet in Heaven".  

The NFL Network's Weekly Highlight Recap Show -  Back in the day I certainly loved me some Chris Berman and Tommy Jackson Primetime action before it got old and tired.   The NFL Network show is turrible.   Deion Sanders and Michael Irvin are buffoons, completely unwatchable.  I can't wait for the Michael Vick balloon to pop, fyi.  "YOUDOWHATYOUDOMIKEVICK" seven times in a highlight package is pure garbage.  Ick.  

Mad Men - tried it, couldn't stick with it.  I know several other people who admit the same.  yet, i see this mentioned as the best show on television time and time again.  False.  The best show on television is Psych.  

The Green Movement - just had a large national company start paying its folks via paycard this weekend due to a corporate initiative to "Go Green".  Naturally, none of the PIN worked and none of the employees were able to access their payroll funds.   And i'm not sure how a reloadable plastic card is greener than direct deposit into a demand deposit account at a credit union/bank...but several large companies are falling for that rub.  

Tapas -  nuff said.  

First Watch - terrible coffee and overpriced food.  dollar for dollar its not any better than Waffle House.  

Video Games - i get the allure for children and adolescents.  not so much for grown men and women.  go do something, preferably outside!!! 

Cats - i know there are cat people and dog people.  my sister is both.  that said, cats suck.  

Nirvana - I find them to be the 4th best band of the grunge era to come out of Seattle (behind Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains).  Probably the most overrated band of all time, along with Pink Floyd and The Doors.  

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The Green Movement and Global warming – Not trying to get a firestorm started but while both are important issues they both get too much air time

The Phillies – We will take them

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by Caleb on Sep 27, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

the green movement

has become corporations doing something they don’t really like or care about in an effort to look cool. Americans really do need to adapt to using an unsustainable amount of resources before they are given no other choice. its sad the way its been folded into the media/popular culture without any of its attendant urgency

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand

by saboscork on Sep 27, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

SIS Fanposts

Just an excuse for people to spout opinions that no one really cares about in a forum that makes it seem otherwise.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Sooooo.....

You’re saying Fanposts are overrated?

by Nasty N8 on Sep 27, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just being a troll

but honestly, I doubt anyone cares what I think is overrated.

I disagree with about half of obc’s things above, but does it really matter?

Still, a door prize to whomever guesses which 5 I agree with.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nirvana, First Watch, Tapas, Borat, DD coffee?

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

First Watch, NFL Network, The Shack, Cats and Mad Men

2010 Central Division Champions, Your Cincinnati Reds!!!!!!!!!!!

by Caleb on Sep 27, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very close

Mad Men is, in fact, the best show on TV.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have heard that

although I have never seen an episode of it. The Simpson’s either

2010 Central Division Champions, Your Cincinnati Reds!!!!!!!!!!!

by Caleb on Sep 27, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should see this show that they call "The Simpsons."

…Hey, you know what’s overrated?

My knowledge of baseball. I’m pretty sure I had the 2010 Reds maxing out at 85 wins.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Overrated

Facebook….just joined, and my first thought was “This is what people make a big deal about?”

Bands no one has ever heard of….99% of the time, there is a reason you haven’t heard of them, because they suck

ESPN…..a shell of its former self

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

ESPN is a good one

they went from being the new kid that worked really hard at the craft to the Corporate Giant, always being politically correct and tap dancing around issues. Other than 30 for 30 they have no impact for me anymore

2010 Central Division Champions, Your Cincinnati Reds!!!!!!!!!!!

by Caleb on Sep 27, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

they died when they canceled the football show

at least according to me.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Facebook and ESPN

two excellent calls. It’s very sad what has happened to ESPN. It has left a giant void in the sports reporting market, I wish someone would step up and fill it, but I don’t think they will.

by kcgard2 on Sep 28, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What giant void?

The internet covers sports much more thoroughly than ESPN ever did or could.

by 'tHan on Sep 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derek Jeter

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Sep 27, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't really have an opinion about what's overrated

because I almost never know what’s cool or perceived as good at any given time. But I think the huffy parenthetical “aside” is pretty ridiculous. I would be willing to bet that no professional athlete in history has devoted 100% of his or her time/energy/thoughts at all times to their sport. That’s an unreasonable expectation. If you don’t want to know what else baseball players enjoy, don’t follow them on Twitter.

by the finest muffins on Sep 27, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

You forgot "those damn kids who won't get off your porch"

I don’t like tomatoes, therefore they are overrated.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 27, 2010 10:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hey

I left off international soccer and MAB&G to keep the peace.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It'd be a bit of a stretch to call the 7th or 8th most popular sport in this country 'overrated'

regardless of how you feel about it.

Also, I don’t like punk music, therefore it is overrated.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're part of the original American punk movement

But then, my definition of punk is pr’damn broad. I just thought this particular instance was largely agreed upon.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, maybe my punk brush isnt broad enough

i dont much care for punk, but i love Television, so they cant be punk.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Television is punk in the same way Talking Heads is punk.

I think they both count as punk rock but not in the same way as The Ramones.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, they are now. Not so much when they started though.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Wave is what record labels rebranded certain punk groups so that

they would be easier to market. I’d say television was more proto-punk than anything.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of

But New Wave came after Television and mostly after the Talking Heads.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

only kinda

i think it’s interesting, but still a bit silly. i mean, how are these classifications divined? are there actual blue ribbon panels of experts assembled to discuss this? as much as i’d love to be a part of that, it’s difficult for me not to see the total uselessness of it.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I hate people that whine about the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame

“That’s not rock! Why’s it in there?” Because fuck you. It’s good music, regardless of whatever classifications you’re trying to put on it, and it deserves inclusion and recognition. The problems aren’t with the Rock Hall having too broad a scope, it’s with you for having too narrow of one.

That being said, there are definitely movements throughout the history of popular music, and I find it fascinating to see why they arise and the links they have to what came before and what comes after.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't know man

The fuckin Eagles are in the RRHOF…that’s bad, real bad

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on

that record is one of the best selling records of all time. im not a huge Eagles fan myself, but you cant deny their incredible popularity.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I fall on this side of the argument

Plus, there’s way worse bands than the Eagles.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

But does popularity make it good/HOF worthy?

So what about Celine Dion? Do the BEP get in?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

rock band has nothing to do with it

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it does

i think to be in the RaRHoF you have to play rock and roll music. while that term should be applied as liberally and broadly as possible, i dont think it applies to Celine Dion.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Madonna? Bob Marley?

That’s a really, really, loose definition of R&R….

And then there’s RUN DMC

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course it's subjective

but i think Celine Dion is about as far from it as one can be, dont you agree?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh sure

I was going more along the lines of – top selling musical acts, The Eagles specifically, being a barometer of inclusion (which Nukkah kind of debunked)

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this is dangerously close to being elitist

and my biggest pet peeve about discussing music with people who disdain anything ‘popular.’

I mean, it is called the Hall of FAME. So, yeah, I’d say popularity is a pretty good barometer of qualification.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting view

I was thinking about the Baseball Hall of Fame where it could be said that your merits on the field, rather than your popularity got you into the Hall.

And I like your reasoning – i just wasn’t thinking like that…but it certainly makes sense

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I would say that, with a few exceptions

bands become and stay popular over time based on a fair bit of artistic merit.

It’s easy to be cynical and say marketing, sex, or some other non-musical factor led to some act being popular, but for that to be sustained over a long period the music probably has something worthwhile in it.

People who say otherwise tend to just not care for that particular group, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t/don’t have anything to offer.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could certainly see that being the case

Maybe I’m just being cynical now because I see marketing/sex/whatever driving popularity now more than in the past

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not trying to be argumentative

but I think you may have a bit of a rose-tinted view of the past.

The way things were marketed was quite different, but marketing (and sex) played just as much of a role then. If Elvis didn’t swing his hips, and if old folks didn’t make such a big deal of it, I GUARANTEE you he doesn’t become so popular.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that the difference here is that musical groups in the past could at least hold a tune.

With auto-tune and digital modifications, acts like Ashlee Simpson can get huge sans talent.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Petey.

Auto-tune can blow me.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Auto-tune sounds cool, when used sparingly and not for evil.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's good for the news!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 27, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiny Tim

’Nuff said.

Crap has existed in all generations, and will overcome any attempt, technological or otherwise, to repress it.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Johnny Bravo!

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

How old are you?

A lot of times when people say that this or that band sucks, its because they didn’t grow up at the time they were popular and ended up hating 2 or 3 songs that got beat to death on the radio.

by ol Pete on Sep 27, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I was born in the latter part of the 70's

I guess right as the Eagles were breaking up…so I must’ve missed their heyday.

But I also wasn’t born during the time of Dylan, Neil Young, Buddy Holly…and those are some damn fine musicians

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dylan went through a worthless phase

and Neil Young is damn near a member of the Eagles. Point still stands though.

by ol Pete on Sep 27, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

My issue with the RnRHofF is that it's stupid to have such

a thing for music. Athletes you can quantify their ability with numbers. Music you can’t do that with. There are a lot, a LOT of shitty bands in the RnRHofF.

Once again — music is too opinion based.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention it's exclusion of some influential rap groups

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

My only real complaint with the Rock Hall is just how beholden it is to Jan Wenner

If you remove the Rolling Stone-iness from it, you’ll get somewhere good.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Hall's only purpose is to promote music.

Everyone who is promotable will get in. It’s like the tennis hall of fame. Michael fucking Chang is in it, fer christ’s sake.

by Brian B on Sep 27, 2010 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rap and rock

aren’t those two different things?

by ol Pete on Sep 27, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think so

But how do you classify Run DMC – rap? or Rock and Roll?

And you have reggae – is that R&R?

You have Mo-Town and Jazz in there as well

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think searching for some kind of comprehensive philosophy in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

is ridiculous folly. Rock and Roll is unwieldy and schizophrenic and crazy, so why should the selection process be any different? expand your mind, square!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it should have just been named the Contemporary Music Hall Of Fame, and let all genres in.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

complete with a sped up drums wing!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

one could easily quantify the RRHoF with album sales

i wonder how many of the artists on the top 25 selling albums of all time list are in the HOF.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's see (Inductees in bold)

1. Thriller – Michael Jackson
2. Their Greatest Hits – The Eagles
3. Rumours – Fleetwood Mac
4. Untitled (IV) – Led Zeppelin
5. The Bodyguard – Whitney Houston
6. Born in the U.S.A. – Bruce Springsteen
7. Boston – Boston
8. Hotel California – The Eagles
9. Greatest Hits – Elton John
10. Cracked Rear View – Hootie & The Blowfish
11. Appetite for Destruction – Guns n’ Roses
12. Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd
13. No Fences – Garth Brooks
14. Whitney Houston – Whitney Houston
15. Slippery When Wet – Bon Jovi
16. Back in Black – AC/DC
17. Bat Out of Hell – Meat Loaf
18. Saturday Night Fever – The Bee Gees/Various Artists
19. Purple Rain – Prince and the Revolution
20. Ropin’ the Wind – Garth Brooks
21. Dirty Dancing – Various Artists (does feature a Righteous Brother)
22. Hysteria – Def Leppard
23. II – Boyz II Men
24. Please Don’t Hurt ’Em – MC Hammer
25. Tapestry – Carole King (Carole King is in the Hall as a Non-Performer)

List of top selling albums taken from some Entertainment Weekly link I found on Google.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOT IT!

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon over here.

Let me hold you and sway you gently to the polite pedestrian rhythms of ‘Cracked Read View.’

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Gaines wants to hold you.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hootie is going to have a statue erected in their honor in SC

it’s only a matter of time before the Hall comes calling

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pfft.

A statue of a black guy in South Carolina.

Good one, ChiDa.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my point. the fact that GNR isn't in it but

the Bee Gees are in the Hall. Bull. Now, GNR can get in later on but still …

Also, album sales don’t mean shit does anyone really want to see Hootie or Hammer in the RRHofF?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

overrated stuff:

GnR. turn it off already. God, what a bunch of pussies.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagreed. Appetite for Destruction is great.

Use Your Illision is meh. Everything else can blow me.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Use your Illusion II?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

II > I

Both are well above “meh.” November Rain is one of the best songs of the ’90s.

GNR should definitely be in for peak value – so should Whitney and Meat Loaf. I didn’t realize they weren’t.

by ken on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot Use Your Illusion II. It is better

than I. Though, the Use Your Illusion I & II best of CD is the best. It gets rid of the crap on Use Your Illusion and, I think, works better as an album when you slam the best songs of the two albums together.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Boston ever get in?

I figure GnR, Bon Jovi, MeatLoaf and Def Leppard are all locks for the HoF

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 29, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but there are plenty of bands that

were more influtential and important to modern music than say, The Eagles, that sold no records. That’s why you can’t go off album sales.

If album sales were the be-all-end-all then guess what — ICP would be in the fucking thing.

/shudders

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was their fans. Not the band itself.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, how the FUCK does it work?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I know who Tila Tequila is.

But throwing your own shit at her seems to me to be pretty rock and roll.

Now, it’s not gonna get ya into the Hall of Fame but we in CIncinnati know a thing or two about Hall of Fames and their hoity toity standards.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And sadly GG Allin sits on the sidelines

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

just discovered him this weekend

through thankswiki.blogspot.com

good stuff.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

GG Allin's music was ok. He as a person

was an absolute train wreck and therefor very, very awesome.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you seen this?

It’s been reprinted in a book by Edward Tufte; I have it at work, so I can’t remember which one.

This link will take you to a larger version you might be able to read.

Very cool, and not overrated.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Punk rock ain't overrated my friend. It's fantastic.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ain't that the truth

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good one. I hate tomatoes. But ketchup and tomatoe sauce is good.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like chunky salsa. Salsa without tomatoe chunks is what I prefer.

But I also know that salsa without tomatoe chunks isn’t real salsa. So, I guess, I don’t like salsa. I can tolerate it.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordo's and Strongbow Cider review

here

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not a fan of the Strongbow

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's good but it's not the best cider.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got one for free Saturday at Longworth's in Mt. Adams

I asked what they had on tap and that was a choice. I told the waiter, “I’ll have a Strongbow, I’ve never had one before.”

When he came back I told him I didn’t know it was cider and that I thought it sucked. He agreed, and took it off the bill. :)

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice fella

Strongbow does suck. in England they sell it in plastic liter bottles next to the Diet Coke.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hornsby's makes some good ciders.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, really?

We always referred to it as Rhino piss in college…

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look, I don't like cider but if I'm going to drink one I'm going to go with a

Hornsby’s. They have about 5 different flavors now. Some are dog-ass awful. About two are good.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

With that being said Woodchuck may be the best but only a few places

have it.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that in Kroger last night

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

next to the Zima!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It was bizarre

The Blue Ash Kroger has inflated beer prices, across the board. Everything was at least a buck or two more expensive.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Zima, and it never made me gay.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

INSERT MOM JOKE HERE

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

insert joke into mom here?

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Sep 27, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've rec'd you twice tonight

I can’t belive it

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

tonight

live in a real time zone, weirdo!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

its 9:00 somewhere

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm talking on tap. Tap cider is the only way to go.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

thhere used to be this brand, K

it was ~8% and was fantastic enough.

Also, I made an apple juice n’ tequila a few weeeks ago, and call that a success.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

i know what im doing this weekend.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

hanging out in college dorms?

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish

college was awesome, wasnt it?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it was.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was

electric kool-aid.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me

In Australia, I never once saw a Foster’s for sale in either bar nor store.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never met an Australian that likes Fosters. They all think it's shit.

They’re right.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Isn't the popular beer there "XXX" or something similar?

I recall guys I was stationed with in Hawaii talking about it when they went TDY there.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foster's!

Australian for Janish!

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good on that waiter. That's awesome.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was impressed, and made it up to him when the bill came

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And good on you.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

In front of the dumpster, like a MAN.

"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000

by jch24 on Oct 4, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I must try this.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

she calls it cider beer

I can’t take her seriously.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

tHan's initial list of overrated things:

Terry’s Turf Club, Sam Adams beers, the Beetles, Carmelo Anthony, Trains, Phillip Rivers, Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Star Wars, Pete Thamel, Chili Cheese Fries, Tim Tebow, True Religion Jeans, P90x, Tyrelle Pryor, Mushrooms, ESPN’s Recruiting Services, Bono’s Humanitarianism, Georges St. Pierre, Land Rover, CSI, 2 & 1/2 Men, The Olympics, China’s Economy, The Hysteria over Toyota’s Recalls, Qdoba, Backyardigans, Rascal Flatts, Blackberry Cell Phones, Grad School, Skyline, Indian Food, The Sopranos, Volkswagen, Craigslist posters stated knowledge of jailbreaking iPhones, Greaters, First Person Shooters, Peanut Butter, Walnuts, The Beast, Kanye West’s Twitter Account, Penn Station’s Fries, Hand Sanitizer, The Hangover, Ren & Stimpy, Wii, Phil Jackson, Convertibles, Apple, KFC’s Chicken, Motorcycles, and Michael Buble

by 'tHan on Sep 27, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

The Beast

is that the roller coaster or the beer?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mushrooms, KFC, Apple, Star wars

How much greatness can you include in there.

by ol Pete on Sep 27, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Jackson?

Count the ringzzz!!!!!!

by ken on Sep 27, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Million Dollar Baby

Incredibly overrated movie.

And because they lost yesterday to the St. Louis Rams – The Washington Redskins. Always overrated by the hometown masses – even beyond the prototypical enthusiasm one has for a hometown team; think delusional. It’s reached ludicrous levels the past 3-4 seasons or so. if the Redskins were a stock, it’d be the easiest short in the history of investing.

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

opinions are overrated

Growing up is overrated.

Getting kicked in the nuts is overrated.

This comment is overrated.

Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!

by Slyde on Sep 27, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yore overrated.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

really
The Green Movement – just had a large national company start paying its folks via paycard this weekend due to a corporate initiative to “Go Green”. Naturally, none of the PIN worked and none of the employees were able to access their payroll funds. And i’m not sure how a reloadable plastic card is greener than direct deposit into a demand deposit account at a credit union/bank…but several large companies are falling for that rub.

The employees weren’t given a choice? Wherever I worked that had that stupid card, I could also get direct deposit, and I always got direct deposit because I hated that stupid fuckin card. It was a pain in my ass, and some places charged me a fee to use it, and I really didn’t want to have to cash it out and then take the cash to the bank.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 27, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Carlos Marmol is not overrated this season

16k/9?

unreal

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

131 strikes in 73 innings is pretty incredible.

You gotta wonder why batters even swing, either he is going to walk you or strike you out.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 27, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mad Men is the best show on tv.

My wife and I watched the pilot and first few episodes of psych when it started and tried really hard to get into it. The novelty got old really fast. I’m surprised it’s still on, and shocked that network tv copied it.

by Brian B on Sep 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Come to think of it

I’m not so shocked that network tv copied it.

by Brian B on Sep 27, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

my overrated list

shoes on babies. why should they wear shoes if they cant walk yet?
Jeni’s ice cream here in Columbus. they put booze in everything. that sounds much better than it actually is, unfortunately.
french kissing.
World War II veterans. because what have you done for me lately, old man? i just read an article in the Atlantic about how that generation is largely to blame for the mess we are in now. i didnt really agree with it, but i thought that sentiment was hidden just beneath the surface and it made me laugh.
breast cancer awareness ribbons. because what about testicular cancer? dont we get a ribbon?
weed.
Weeds.
True Blood. i just finished season 2 and though it was better than season 1, there are still more things wrong with it than things right.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

weeds season 1 and 2 was funny

season 3 feel off, and season 4+ just sucks.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the more skin MLP showed, the worse the show got?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

weed is not overrated.

Weeds, however is.

Watch it, ass blood.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 27, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

First Watch is an excellent choice.

I have been harping on this issue to anyone that will listen and I flat refuse to go.

I picked up a copy of the Shack that someone was reading at work, flipped towards the end and starting reading, and of course it was total dreck, but who would have expected otherwise? It’s not as if Christian literature has been taken seriously since C. S. Lewis, and he was largely a children’s author. Hard to call the Shack overrated, only a dullard would rate it highly.

For my own part, I will go ahead and say scripted television programs (and that of course includes reality TV). The television’s only useful application is for watching sports; for a man to watch anything else is unbecoming.

He fixes the cable?

by Colin Auscapee on Sep 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

First watch sucks.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

best burger in dayton gets some love

for ash, on the near one year anniversary of the failhorn
SLYDERS

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Overrated

American Idol – It’s karaoke and people being mean.
Dancing with the Stars
Tears for Fears – They had two songs, and we’ve played them to death. Let’s move on.
Simple Minds – They had one song, and we’ve played it to death. “Alive and Kicking” is horrible, yet still gets radio play as sort of a tribute to their one decent song.
The Beach Boys
Really skinny chicks
Tim McCarver – how has the baseball community not risen up and publicly lynched him by now?!?
Mad Men – If I don’t give a fuck about the characters, then there’s no point in telling me stories about them.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers
J.R.R. Tolkien

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed with everything buy RHCP

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

*but

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who do you listen to?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

your mom

when im sliding it down her back! HIGH FIVE!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

more seriously though

what kind of question is that? do you want me to make a list? i listen to good music. i dont think GnR or RHCP are anything close.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen to 'Rocket Queen.'

C’mon have a listen. (It might the only one of their greats that you haven’t become numb to.)

That’s six minutes of good rock n’ roll right there.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

no thanks

ive heard it all. i appreciate your offer, but i just plain dont like it.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's Pops!!!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the best dinosaur music

old school style

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno.

They’re like high school kids and their album just came over the summer but it wouldn’t surprise me if you’re heard ’em in a Toyota commercial already.

(Not saying there’s anything wrong with that.)

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I happen to agree that RHCP are way overrated

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

shoot, I meant to cancel that

they’re good, they’re unique, they’re easy to love.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like them a lot

But they might be a little overrated in general.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 27, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are Foo Fighters overrated?

I think that band is overrated yet I think Dave Grohl is underappreciated? How is that possible?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They might be a little.

But again, I like them a ton, and you’re totally right on Dave Grohl.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 27, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a decent question. If you're going to point out bands that you think suck

give us some bands you like. I’m trying to figure out where you’re coming from.

And that brings me back to my whole argument against the RRHofF, you say you listen to “good music” I might think it sucks and vice versa. So creating a “HoF” for something so personal and unquantifiable is silly. Much like award shows for movies, music or any type of art.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, here's a few of my faves:

Kit Cloudkicker and the Tailspinners, Big Sexy and the Whiskey Winos, The Best Ever, Hamwater, Flinch Kiss, Dan and the Other Two, Discotek Divorce, Flamethrowers Forever, and Don Cheadle’s Beard.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

srsly tho

Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Tom Petty, Kraftwerk, the Beatles, the Who, Guided by Voices, New Order, Television, the Clash, CCR, Beastie Boys, and so on.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. I like a good helping of those bands as well. Now, I see where you're

coming from. I love the Beastie Boys but I do think they’re a little overrated.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The band/group as a whole you can. They've had moments of

brilliance but a lot of blah in between.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

truth

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get Tom Petty.

To me he’s always sounded like the guy who left the Eagles and went solo because he thought he was Bob Dylan.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I was young I love him. Now I can't stand his face.

I still think I have a CD of his somewhere though.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he really hasnt done anything of note in 20 years or so, but “American Girl” is one of the best songz evah. “Wildflowers” is a delightfully underrated record.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yum songs Petty has made since Sweet Lou and the Nasty Boys:

Kings Highway
Learning to Fly
Into the Great Wide Open
You Don’t know How It Feels
You Wreck Me
The Last DJ
plus Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3 – entire album

I see Tom this Friday at the largest outdoor concert venue in the world, The Hollywood Bowl. ZZ Top is opening, which is fine, but I would have preferred to see Joe Cocker open, as originally scheduled.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love him.

It’s Good To Be King is a great song along with so many others. Hell, the entire Full Moon Fever record is great.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Petty has been cranking out great music in the last 20 years.

Echo was excellent & Highway Companion was one of my favorite cds of the last decade. Saving Grace is one of my favorite songs of all time!

And you are right about Wildflowers. “you don’t know how it feels” it just an incredibly fun song.

by 'tHan on Sep 27, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neil Young? really?

He’s on my waaaaaaaayyy overrated list.
CSN was awesome, did fantastic things with harmony. CSNY was pretty solid. But Young on his own has:
1) Songs with boring 3-chord progressions
2) Not a particularly pleasant singing voice
3) Not very much deep to say lyrically.

Compared to Dylan, who
1) Uses a lot more chords, but even when he only uses 3, manages to do interesting rhythmic things that are not easy to mimic
2) Is famously nasal, but also ALWAYS on exactly the pitch he means to be, without an autotuner. Plus, he can sing non-nasal when he wants to — check out “Another Side of Bob Dylan”
3) No argument is here necessary

I just don’t get the NY love.

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by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's nothing overrated about the song "heart of gold"

it’s one of my favorites of all time.

I hate it when I hear that stupid tracy chapman song that sampled it & think I’m about to hear Heart of Gold.

by 'tHan on Sep 28, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

Did you just say that things that can’t be quantified are not worth celebrating or rewarding or critiquing? Do you really believe that?

by the finest muffins on Sep 27, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that at all. I said that having a Hall of Fame for such stuff is silly.

So much of it relies on one’s personal tastes. There’s no one on the planet that can tell me that the Bee Gees are a Hall of Fame anything. They suck.

Giving awards are also silly. The Oscars are a joke. The Grammys are a joke. Jethro Tull won the first metal album award for crying out loud.

Awarding art is silly. I think appreciation and compensation is enough. Hell, as someone who’s won awards in my field, I think those are silly as well.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. And APs. And "industry awards"

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, that's a little more reasonable.

I still disagree, just because I like winning awards and not-so-secretly hope to win a Caldecott someday. Also, I like to talk about which books and movies are better than other books— and I like when award committees agree with me.

I still think that, unless you’re against awards/Halls of Fame/etc. in general, there’s no reason to make a distinction between that which can be measured by quantity and that which can be measured by quality.

by the finest muffins on Sep 27, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm against awards (actual physical trophies -- raises are AWESOME) for all jobs with the exception of athletes.

When you’re an athlete, and I’m talking the professional level here, your only job is to win. And to win as much as possible. A team championship is the ultimate. An individual award is also good because it showed that you attempted to do your best to help your team win.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't this the blog that voted on Most Valuable Commenter earlier this year?!?

good lord…

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but I don't see anyone handing me a "Most Profane" statue.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cause you didn't fuckin deserve it

I reckon

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure about that one cock face! ;p

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that your SIS?

Or if it was mine, I unceremoniously lifted the questions from yours.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

They sort of helped give us this.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I figured there had to be a 'revival' of sorts going on.

Full disclosure. I was a big fan. (I looooved that Beatles-ripoff follow-up album. Title?) But IMO the only song of theirs that kids today should fuss over/cover is ‘Rule the World.’

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a big "mother's talk" fan?

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that on 'Big Chair'?

I remember that there was a really good ‘non-hit’ on that album.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was

there was two versions…

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

the best bands of the 80s were The Minutemen, Decendants, Black Flag, Fugazi, Husker Du and Sonic Youth.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dead Kennedys and Minor Threat

Are two that i’d throw in

"Fuck it, we'll do it live."

by DTFH91 on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love X

Got into them about a couple years ago with under the big black sun

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

They still play a good show, believe it or not

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.

by chesirecat on Sep 27, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Men at Work

Dug ’em then, dig ’em now. So sue me.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fun facts

Shooting someone in the butt with a pellet gun does not kill them

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Been there, shot that.

I nailed a buddy from 70 yards through foliage. Lucky shot, drew a little blood. :)

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 28, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

my buddy shot me point-blank when i was like 13

right in the armpit. i had x-ray last year and it’s still in there.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 28, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 28, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 28, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

They still get tons of radio play. Especially in Vegas. Nauseating.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until this week I had never heard of The Black Keys

You guys have two links to convince me of their greatness. Go.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry

I don’t link my coolness and self esteem to what music I like.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know.

I was just going for a cheap giggle.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I was just trying to bait one/all of the music snobs here :)

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not it.

I sold most of my Music Snob championship belts in a pawn shop long ago.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

first crack

link #1

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, they suck

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

not good

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I discovered "Ohio" over the weekend

if Ohio State doesn’t take it over, the Reds need to.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

linked

heeyah.

I would love to here that chorus at Reds games.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

overrated?

the NFL. The vast majority of players shuffle in and out of teams. I was lost when Willie Anderson went to the Ravens. But I don’t like it for many reasons. The lack of rights the players have creeps me out. The amount of egos and power the coaches have bores me. The uniforms are mostly ugly. It’s like watching an action version of the movie Wall Street, with all of these vanilla coaches trying to win by taking one less risk than the other guy. I’d love to see a Mike Leach sort of coach come to the NFL and win 10 games by letting best athletes in the world play football. This series kinda gets what I’m getting at.

What else? Deadspin, Kissing Suzy Kolber, and the whole frat-boy sports blogosphere. Especially The Dirty. They add nothing to the conversation. And their predations on athletes are the reason why we have so few MrLeCures and so many Albert Pujols. I basically disagree with obc on this one.

Also overrated: pitch counts, sliders, and slow dudes with high OBP.

I’d also like to add the New York Times, think tanks, and drop-in journalists. From all political beliefs, these are the jokers that give us the excuse to ignore what’s going on in the world and feeding narratives instead of facts. ::sheeple rant over::

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed on the NFL. It bores me.

Bad.

I think the only thing NFL-related that holds my attention for more than 1.7 seconds these days is Ron Jaworski. Seriously.

And yes, the New York Times is overrated but man, I don’t know what I would do without it.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

100 percent could not agree more on the NFL.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely agree with the NFL.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 27, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

My non-exhaustive list (just an introductory riff)

R.E.M.
The East Side of Cincinnati
Two and a Half Men
Thin Women
Harry Potter
Cal Ripken’s career
Marky Mark’s film career
Hatred of the press by conservatives
Gourmet pizza
Big weddings
Beach vacations
HBO’s Big Love
Seat belt laws
Cheerleaders
Boxing championship titles…..

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

*standing ovation*

I agree with all of these, though I do like REM but still feel they’re overrated.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seat belt laws?

"Fuck it, we'll do it live."

by DTFH91 on Sep 27, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like not being dead

If someone wants to turn it into a civil liberties thing, that’s a whole different thing I guess.

"Fuck it, we'll do it live."

by DTFH91 on Sep 27, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it your problem if i go through my windshield?

I mean i guess you can argue that, most Americans pay for auto-insurance, and seat belt’s decrease the severity of injuries, so if I am in an accident and I am wearing a seat belt the medical bills will be lower, than if I were not wearing a seat belt, so in that case it is your problem.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 27, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you don't want to wear a seat belt, that's your call

It would be in your best interest to wear one, and I think that’s the reasoning behind the law (besides the revenue it creates.)

"Fuck it, we'll do it live."

by DTFH91 on Sep 27, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That last part is where most people have an issue with the law. It's an

obvious money-making law disguised, poorly, as a law to keep people safe.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The same could be argued about cumpulsory automobile insurance

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, though being hit by an uninsured driver is some major, awful stuff.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, which is why everyone should have plenty of insurance for themselves

See where I’m going with this?

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

conception insurance = dr schwartz!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why minimum auto insurance should be paid via a per-gallon tax at the pump.

You can’t duck the pump!

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

A tax in this economy?

But seriously, that’s a good idea. But no way in hell that will go over now – hell just mentioning the words ‘tax’ and ‘increase’ is enough to get some people to go ballistic

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The political sticky wicket here is that poor people are affected most by gas taxes.

A disproportionate amount of the wages of those near the poverty line go to this tax, so less-pragmatic leftists draw a line in the sand at this idea…leaving those who can’t afford uninsured motorist coverage to take it on the chin when they get hit. The injustice of this makes me support the concept of a gas tax for this purpose.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 28, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is also the irrational ideas souronding gas taxes

as gas has gone up people want to cut taxes on gas, simply because it is more expensive, not fully understanding that those taxes will simply come from some place else.

This really doesn’t seem like a bad idea to me. But I may be biased because 9 out of the last 12 months, i spent very little time in cars, I have not had access to my own personal car, and most of my short trip transportation needs have been taken care of by a train or to a lesser extent a bus.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 28, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trains and buses would be taxed too, dude

You’d just pay your portion of the tax via higher fares.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

GE's making power stations!!!!!!!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 28, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

When they make an average-sized electric car...

…that doesn’t look like a wind-up toy and doesn’t cost more than $25k, I’ll buy one.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 28, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, the cost shifting would be more like this:

We now have most currently-insured drivers paying for minimum insurance + additional coverage + uninsured motorist coverage while some selfish/destitute motorists go uninsured, placing the burden of all those costs on the responsible, insured motorist who pays for the UM coverage AND pays higher premiums due to the insurance companies passing along their losses to that law-abiding consumer…

We would have a per-gallon gas tax that directly linked usage/pollution to cost.
You want to save money? Drive less, or use public transit. This would force ALL drivers (otherwise insured or not) to chip in for legally-mandated coverage, forcing overall costs down for the average consumer and incentivizing usage of public transportation. Those who drive more will pay more, but not much more than they would already pay in appropriate minimum insurance coverage. And overall, insurance costs would go down for consumers due to reduction in UM payouts, and fewer individuals would get stuck paying for others unnecessary driving habits and the irresponsible practice of going uninsured. We would also save court time and public expenditures by eliminating laws, penalties, and lawsuits related to uninsured motorists.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 28, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keeping people safe saves us all money

Less people going through windshilelds means less medical costs and law enforcement admin expenses.

by ken on Sep 27, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but having someone on "seatbelt duty" is waste of money.

And yes, that does happen in certain areas.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maryland for one?

I feel like they have cops who where night vision goggles simply to catch people who aren’t wearing seat belts.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 27, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

how comes there's no seatbelts on trains?

seems dangerous!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same thing with school buses.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was always fun as a kid

Get the bus driver to speed over some of those bumps and the kids would go flying in the air. It was incredibly fun as an elementary and middle schooler

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit

my friend and i would always anticipate “The Bump” on the morning route. no matter how careful the driver was, they were always sure to lose no less than 3 kids when riding over that chasm.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I call WHEEL SEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This brought back some memories, rec'd

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know. I just know that in smaller towns in the Midwest

cops wait around for vans full of kids and then pull them over.

I’ve seen it happen way too many times in the town I live in now — the cop waits in a dark alley along a four-way stop by all the fast food restraunts and pulls vans of kids over as they drive into McDonald’s/Wendy’s/Burger King/etc. Each kid without a seatbelt is hit with a fine.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

what else is that cop supposed to do?

there are no murders to chase like on SVU. he’s bored!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the fact that he's camped out there that bothers me.

Luckily the kids have caught on. I haven’t seen it happen in about 6 months.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

good for them

but yeah, it’s a waste of tax dollars that the stupid cop needs to find work to do, but the alternative is to not have him there and be less capable of stopping those rowdy teens from robbing the Wendy’s.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

rowdy teens in vans should wear seatbelts!

especially the ones with ear gauges. i support ticketing boys with ear gauges riding in vans sans seatbelts.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It used to be that a cop could not pull a person over simply for a seatbelt violation

he had to have another (actual) reason to pull the guy over, and could fine you for not wearing it after that.

I don’t know if this is still the case. But it eliminates the thing you are talking about.

by kcgard2 on Sep 28, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently not here.

If the dude did have a reason my guess is that its — Driving While Young.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 28, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

My HS gf got pulled over for Driving While Young.

Stupid abuse of power.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 30, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What sort of dummy doesn't wear a seat belt?

I don’t know anyone like that in this day and age. My grandpa used to not do it, but we, his grandchildren, bullied him into it.

by the finest muffins on Sep 27, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is.

I hate empty philosophizing and point-making. Is anyone, anywhere harmed by seat belt laws? No? Then who cares?

by the finest muffins on Sep 27, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is not empty to point out

that selective legislation based on corrupt enterprise is horseshit. The larger point is that it is a base hypocrisy no matter what the smaller benefit.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My first ticket was something similar

In Highschool, I pulled into a taco bell drive thru late at night – turned off my lights for some reason and then drove home. Had three friends in the car and the cop pulls me over no more than a mile from the taco bell. Gives me a ticket for driving without my lights on

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ve never heard that and I’ve never been pulled over in MD – at least not for not having a seatbelt on.

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If someone dies in the auto wreck, it's cheaper for everyone.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if you aren't fully libertarian about it

If you want to make it your civil right to go through your windshield, then it is also your civil right to bleed out on the street without any government-operated ambulance coming to take you to the insurance-funded hospital.

That’s cool with me, if it’s cool with you, but it’s not cool with most people.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

what if you go through my windshield?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 28, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then you need a better windshield. And quit driving on the wrong side of the road!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damn Brits.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Sep 28, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, in some states you can get huge fines for not wearing a seat belt.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't not wear a seat belt.

Don’t worry about ‘fines’ and ‘other states’ and ‘Josef Stalin.’

Just wear your seatbelt.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I wear my seatbelt and make everyone who rides with me do the same (when I drive)

but to fine someone who wants to be an idiot … I do have an issue with that. If some yahoo doesn’t want to wear one, fine, but at the same time I don’t think someone should HAVE to wear a seatbelt.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get how it's okay to ride a motorcycle without a helmet but not okay to drive a car without a seat belt

NOTE: Wearing a seat belt in all likelihood saved my life once upon a time, so I always wear one and demand my passengers do too.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

fyi....saving a condom can save your life also!!!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't understand why someone would be willing to not wear a seatbelt and gamble that they may die

but they complain about not wearing a seatbelt and having to gamble they would pay a $50 fine.

$50 < your life

by 'tHan on Sep 27, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's about being told

that I must do something that ultimately only effects me (if of course you ignore the trickle down from insurance companies passing their costs down to the consumers). It runs counter to my nature. Don’t even get me started about drugs, prostitution and smoking. I do not like being dictated to by people out to either inflict their moral will on me or to stick me with the bill for their usury-based enterprise.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

See my reply above

If someone is uninsured and decides not to wear a seat belt, then we all pay to peel that person off the street. The ancillary insurance costs you mention are another reason.

by ken on Sep 27, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this logic were consistently applied

across the board then I would find the law much less repulsive. I think it’s a squeeze by the insurance lobby. If we figure out a way to make poor people, as a group, healthier, then we would likely exponentially outpace any costs we share in scraping off that street. It’s a selective and hypocritical law.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Pops...

Gotta disagree with you on this one.

If someone dies in a car accident because they weren’t wearing a seat belt, it imposes costs on the rest of us who weren’t even involved in the person’s decision not to wear the seatbelt, and it has nothing to do with insurance.

For example, first responders (for whom we pay taxes) are needed as well as hospital beds and physicians’ costs, which may not be covered fully by insurance. If the person has no medical insurance, then that is a cost that is entirely borne by the state (i.e., the taxpayer).

Also, to the extent the dead person is a head of a household, the state may be forced to support his or her relatives through welfare or other transfer payments, which means the taxpayers pay.

There are probably a lot of other costs that are not borne just by the dying person that I can’t think of now, so I think the intervention by the government in requiring people to wear seat belts is justifiable unless the person deciding not to wear a seatbelt pays a tax (i.e., a fine) to not do so and cover the potential expense that would be caused to the public from his/her risky behavior.

What, me? Being negative? No. Never.

by Paul Householder on Sep 27, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

See above.

It is a selective application of community well-being.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Potentially true...

But if this particular application is actually correct, then while I’d rather be consistent, I don’t think the solution is to throw out the correct application in the interests of consistently not applying the principle in every instance in which it could be correctly applied.

I’d rather be right in 45% of the instances than wrong in 100% of them.

What, me? Being negative? No. Never.

by Paul Householder on Sep 27, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wear a seat belt.

I simply resent the law’s penalty as motivator concept.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

im with you

but unfortunately we live in a society of human beings, and many of them have very little understanding of what is best for them. these laws are not in place for your benefit, they are in place for their benefit. your resentment is not from someone telling you what to do, but rather that there are so many people out there stupider than you that need to be told what to do.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I feel like

legislators want to thin the herd, but only parts of it.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And criminal who can't!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Generally...

I don’t think of the law as a penalty but rather an attempt to get people who engage in risky behavior (which carries with it the risk of imposing a social cost) to view the costs/benefits of their risky behavior more in line with the way society at large views it.

I think we can both agree though that wearing a seat belt is a good idea. I personally would rather have you around.

What, me? Being negative? No. Never.

by Paul Householder on Sep 27, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that case,

motorcycles should be illegal. As well as ATV’s, guns, alcohol, pit bulls, slum lords, republicans, democrats….etc.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

Motorcycles should be legal, but you should pay a license fee to ride one (or be required to carry insurance that picks up the tab when the police and fire department come to scrape you off the pavement).

All of the other items in your list should be the same, other than slum lords, republicans and democrats. Not sure what the point was with those.

What, me? Being negative? No. Never.

by Paul Householder on Sep 27, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously this doesn't apply to slum lords

Theoretically there are housing standards and such to deter them. It’s a matter of a (lack of) enforcement.

by ken on Sep 27, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the lack of that I'm talking about.

It’s easier to stick one person for a seat belt ticket than some poor people that desperately need the help.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enforcement is tricky for a couple of reasons

One, the poor are often unaware of what the housing code requires and how they can assert their rights. Two, it’s intimidating to have to go to landlord-tenant court to do so. I used to do pro bono work for tenants and dealt with a lot of skeevy slum lord lawyers. Unfortunately, there’s much more help needed than available.

Enforcing seat belt laws, in contrast, is simple and almost free. Writing a belt ticket when the cop is already writing a speeding ticket imposes no additional costs.

by ken on Sep 27, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

But yes, the easy thing to do is what gets done.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it rumples my clothing!

seriously, I remember that being an excuse back in the 70s maybe, or early 80s. Some public service announcement was claiming that saving your life was probably worth a few rumples.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm right with you on this Pops. But I buckle up always.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard people advocate for helmets for car passengers.

It would cut down on fatalities, I’d think.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.

by andromache on Sep 27, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If so, I'm getting a goalie mask!

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'm going to start

lobbying for everyone everywhere live in a sealed bubble. Where does this shit end?

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

NIMBY

1) why does everyone “deserve” health insurance? in a healthy, functioning capitalistic society those that can’t afford the true cost of a good or service must simply learn to do without. (i.e. Octomom) i could write a term paper on CHMC’s ER after midnight…

2) i’ve been hit by multiple uninsured motorists. sure i carry a shit ton of insurance personally but its no walk in the park to see someone damage property and walk away scot free for the most part.

3) not wearing seatbelts is dumb but i can deal with those folks, unless they let their children run wild in the 2nd and 3rd row of the van. people who ride motorcycles without helmets are completely out to lunch. UNSAFE! except for sukr…he was cool.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

I’ll preface this by saying that I truly do not understand what the new health care plan actually consists of nor its long-term financial issues. I think very few people actually do.
I assume that the quotation marks around “deserve” that you are framing the argument in that direction. I suppose it’s all in how you look at it. I see my family, my mom and both of my brothers without health insurance. I see one of my best friends without it. All hard ass working people. None had enough money to start with for a decent college education so have a difficult time propelling themselves into a job that would provide them with medical coverage, because the free market has priced smaller companies or lower paying jobs right out of the game. If anything significant happens to them, it’s financial ruin. Medicare isn’t a real option for them either. So, do people not matter? I get the outrage at those who abuse the system, but that street flows up to the rich as well, if not more so. I frame the argument as a moral one, and I probably shouldn’t. The old system was fucked, hell, even Republicans admit that when pressed. And I have no idea if the new one will be any better. But yes, I think people deserve health insurance as a matter of moral responsibility as a nation.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 27, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd. Also -- as shitty as Octomom is her, her kids shouldn't

be punished for being the sons and daughters of an idiot.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

their genes will do that for them.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

not trying to argue with you, matt

i’d LIKE to see everyone have medical coverage. im not arguing that point.

but i get a bad taste in my mouth when someone who drinks and smokes argues for state assisted health care. i also look around and see that America must be the most obese country on earth, even amongst its poorest quartile. the lack of exercise and dietary control in shocking. its no wonder so many of our countrymates get so sick.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the system is set up horribly as far as actually providing care.

Doctors are so squeezed for time, preventive care is never done, medication or surgery are the preferred methods for handling EVERYTHING, and they do nothing to improve the underlying issues. Instead of making people healthier, we are covering up the underlying problems.

It makes me very sad to look at the whole system and realize how lacking it is.

by kcgard2 on Sep 28, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with the new system is that it's supposed to be fully implemented by 2014, yet they've barely scratched the surface with what changes/reform will actually occur

I work for CIGNA, and everyday we’re doing everything we can to try and shape/frame/influence the direction of the reform. So are the Blues, Aetna, United and others.

Right now what you will see in terms of long-term financial issues are employers with less than 50 employees get fucked straight in the ass, as they’ll have to pay more out of pocket to cover their employees costs as the risk and cost of insuring individuals is spread very unevenly. You’re going to see employers with less than 50 employees start to STOP offering health insurance to their employees due to the fact that they no longer get tax breaks on covering health insurance costs of their employees (thanks Obama and crew!).

So yeah, from my company’s standpoint, we have an emerging market to pursue with the individual. Previously, COBRA and state programs were the only options for individuals, but now you’ll see all bigger companies start to offer individual products and plans.

HC Reform is a fucking mess, and we have the Dems to thanks for that.

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 29, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone is to blame

but it is okay. At the end of the day we are all alive.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I really don't get this. But I'm certainly not well-versed in economics, so maybe you can help me out.
in a healthy, functioning capitalistic society those that can’t afford the true cost of a good or service must simply learn to do without.

How is it beneficial to society for a poor person not to be able to get say, a cleft palate fixed, while a rich person can get a nose job? I mean, is that not part of a perfectly capitalist distribution of medical services? Do I just disagree with you on the appropriateness of this outcome? Do you not approve of the economic losses necessary in a system that would avoid this outcome? (I’m really not being hypothetical – I just want to see exactly where it is we disagree)

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.

by andromache on Sep 27, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Survival of the fittest, holmes

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really believe that, or are you just trolling me now?

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.

by andromache on Sep 28, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe that, I'm just saying that's the mindset

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think having people wear protective gear while driving at 70 or 80 mph is necessarily ridiculous.

I’m not advocating for the practice, much less for having a law requiring it, but i don’t see why it’s that far of a stretch.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.

by andromache on Sep 27, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

at the risk of sounding sabre-cartric

I’d like a real proper quantitative study done that would assess how much difference it would make. Then we could put it in contexts of other ways to reduce accidents. Then we could get some signs from Jon Stewart, and demand to have a reasonable discussion.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 28, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speed doesn't kill in auto accidents

Difference in speed kills. That’s why the jackass going 45 mph on the interstate is as big a risk as the jackass going 90 mph.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

My two buddies who are insurance industry lifers tell me..

..it’s actually ‘mass’ that most often seriously injures and kills.

Little cars don’t kill and it’s a misconception that you’ll be more seriously injured (or killed) when you’re in a little car in an accident.

So you see.. if we all drove Geo Metros we wouldn’t need helmets!

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 28, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd still need a helmet if I drove a Geo Metro

To protect me as I banged my head against the wall for driving a Geo Metro.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually..

..no one is going to get laid if we’re all driving Geo Metros.

So I guess that’s a downside to this scenario.

But I guess that if we’re ALL driving Geo Metros then it might not matter. Maybe we’ll ALLL get laid. It’ll be one big Geo Metro orgy.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 28, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

X

"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is much easier to avoid stationary objects

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

since computers came along

i’ve found it much easier to avoid stationery objects

by 'tHan on Sep 28, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

/raises hand

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 28, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Simian

/throwspoo

"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 28, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is much easier to avoid stationary objects going 45 mph than 90 mph.

Your point about difference in speed is a good one, but it only applies to someone going the same direction as you are. Usually applicable in highway situations, but not always.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.

by andromache on Sep 28, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The East Side is no different than anywhere else in this city.

It only thinks it is.
And, cheerleaders serve no purpose whatsoever.

I do not like pickles.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 30, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

But if you contemplate a universe without cheerleaders, you’ll certainly envision their inevitable creation.

That doesn’t make them not overrated. Just fundamental and true.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 30, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife is aformer cheerleader, and she serves a great purpose in my life :)

"just a couple of weeks ago a first year student in my program told me i was charming and charismatic, it was a guy, but the point still stands.: -- justin007000

by jch24 on Oct 4, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buffalo wings are overrated.

If you were in a country somewhere near the equator and saw people eating shit meat off the bone like that in a messy orange vinegary sauce, you’d start looking around for a Wendy’s.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Hey, if the Pirates win..

..wanna raise a glass to our Reds somewhere around midnight?

I’ll buy.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Sep 27, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd love to

but im busy as all hell this week. im really gonna need my beauty sleep this evening.

3 Fast and i have discussed numerous times a Columbus RR reunion. perhaps this Friday night against the Brewers?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll have to put something together.

I can’t do this Friday, but once post-season scheduling is finalized we’re on for something

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

stuff is overrated

you are all too materialistic with your cell phones, and your alarm clock radios.

Joey Votto is my MVP.

by justin007000 on Sep 27, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Scott Hatteberg was overrated.

Happy Clinch Day (hopefully)!

What, me? Being negative? No. Never.

by Paul Householder on Sep 27, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

are delicious

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are as fucking stupid as that movie.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone have George Blanda in the death pool?

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

FUCK ME RUNNING, THERE IS A GOD

I won the lottery for NLCS tix, I can buy up to six to each game. Starts tomorrow at 9:00 AM.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Congratulations!

What, me? Being negative? No. Never.

by Paul Householder on Sep 27, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey jch

did we ever come to a consensus on posting links that don’t populate in a new window?

doing that is very, very underrated.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's in poor taste

VERY poor taste. Smacks of undergadism if you ask me.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what's NOT overrated?

The Reds’ plans for the clinch.

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 27, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Me likely that.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

not bad!

of course, this may be the last divisional title until 2025. Get out to GABP tomorrow, gang!!!

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

My brief list...

Bob Marley (and Reggae in general)
Boondock Saints
the NBA
anything with sexy vampires

Watch it, ass blood.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 27, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

i like cinema

my favorite films are Citizen Kane and Boondock Saints.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

me neither

it was a quote from last week’s The Office. i think it is the most inexplicably appreciated movies ive ever seen.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

peach and jch gave me that dvd last year

they swear its the best flick ever. then they proceeded to describe the plot to westie and me.

and…..now its in the garage safely packed with my vintage vcr tapes.

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 27, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you watch it?

it was hyped really big to me in college, and by people i thought i could trust. i lost a few good friends that night.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now, I didn't say it was the best movie ever, just a great movie

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked it when I was 15 and dumb. I've grown to hate the fucking thing.

I think there’s a Facebook group called: “Boondock Saints once a fun movie now just an overbearing piece of crap” or something like that.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it: Boondock Saints, once a good movie, but now revoltingly cliche

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here.

If you’re a high school/college kid, that movie has it all. Action, likable characters, and is superfluously quotable. All of the people who proclaimed it the greatest movie ever have made it really tough to like it, though.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 27, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

because they're still mentally in high school.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Sep 28, 2010 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd Charlie. I know douches exactly like that. Michael should of beat his nephew as soon

as he said that.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt see the episode and thought you were being serious...

I had a “Mass Media and Culture” class with a guy that said asinine things like that on a daily basis. He would blather on incessantly about the greatness of Juno and Ellen Page movies, yet thought No Country for Old Men was terrible. I almost punched him.

Watch it, ass blood.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 27, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Juno is a HUGE piece of shit.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i liked when i watched it

but when it was over and i started thinking about it, it made me really uncomfortable. how many 17 year old girls know that are that mature? it was more unrealistic than the Neverending Story.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 27, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that movie still going on?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. Also, if I ever met a teenager that talked like that I would laugh in their face.

So would their friends and teachers. Diablo Cody’s an idiot.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Her fifteen minutes went away rather quickly

Compared to some others who just keep on, keeping on

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about Cody or Ellen Page?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody

Ellen Page still has room to grow

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 27, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes she does. I figured you meant Cody but I wasn't sure.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 27, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

But was it more unrealistic than the Twilight series?

"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman

by jch24 on Sep 28, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

This post is overated.

"Ahhh! Yoda's little friend you seek!"
Yoda.

by Madville on Sep 28, 2010 6:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Quatman's was overrated

"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow

by obc2 on Sep 28, 2010 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was thinking about it

And that original estimate that got out of 15k might be the total they sold yesterday, whereas the actual walk up may be tickets sold once gates opened or something like that. Lisa Braun said they sold a crazy number of tickets in the last 24 hours before the game. Sounds like they may not have reached 20k if not for the possible clinch.

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by Slyde on Sep 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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