Farmers Only: Where current MVPs (but not the one you'd think) and former All-Stars unite
by BK on Sep 2, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintAnother day, another Reds win. Southern League (AA) postseason awards were announced, and I'm pleased to say that our very own Dave Sappelt was named MVP. Congrats to him on a great season. How about those games?
- Louisville won 8-3 behind a stellar start by the soulsucker, Ben Jukich. Jukes pitched 7 shutout innings with 7 strikeouts. Devin Mesoraco went 2-for-5 with 2 RBI and Zack Cozart and Michael Griffin homered. Columbus also won, so the Bats are still 0.5 back in the division. Up next: Chad Reineke takes on Indy at 6.
- Carolina wasn't as lucky, as they got shut out 5-0 by Birmingham. Jake Kahaulelio had he Mudcats' only hit on the evening off of Charlie Leesman, who is one of three Xavier Musketeers currently pitching in professional baseball (but the only one I've worked on a group project with in Biology class). Travis Webb was the tough luck loser pitching a quality start, and Donnie Joseph gave up 2 unearned runs. Up next: Southern League Left-Handed Pitcher of the Year Tom Cochran takes on Birmingham at 8:05.
- Lynchburg got destroyed 10-2 by Winston-Salem. Cody Puckett went 3-for-4 and Didi Gregorius had two hits for the Hillcats. Curtis Partch was terrible in his start. Up next: Daniel Guerrero takes on Winston-Salem at noon.
- Dayton lost to Bowling Green 5-3. Here's the game you were waiting for. The good: Edinson Volquez pitched 7 innings in his start, and gave up 1 unearned run on 5 hits with 1 walk and 9 strikeouts. The bad: Orlando Cabrera also started and went 0-for-3 in the leadoff spot. Justin Reed had a homer and Stephen Diaz and Ronald Torreyes each had a hit in their Dayton debuts. Up next: Jacob Johnson gets BG at 7.
- Billings' game with Missoula was suspended after 3 innings. They'll finish it today, with Kyle Lotzkar taking the second game after that one ends.
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so can Justin Reed play short?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I don't think so
But he sure does have blazing speed in the outfield.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Sep 2, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
O-Cab bats leadoff and goes 0-3?
Sounds like he’s 100%.
Can't say I care what he hits down there...
I doubt he’s watching film, and the sample size isn’t worth anything.
How did he look? Especially in the field?
My sources say
He looked like a great backup shortstop
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by nycredsfan on Sep 2, 2010 10:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
FYI
looks like Balentien was lifted in the 7th inning. I would say he is on his way to STL today to meet up with the team. So long, DRH.
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by nycredsfan on Sep 2, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting poll over at MLBTR.
They ask readers if they’d rather have Stephen Strasburg or Aroldis Chapman long term. The last I looked, it was about 58:42 in favor of Chapman.
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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 2, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
What have you done for me lately, eh?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
well, Chapman isn't post-TJ yet
and he’s all the hype and he’s a lefty… I think if Chapman stays healthy long term he’s just as good as Strasburg, especially if he learns another pitch or how to throw that changeup effecively
A less-interesting poll at NESN.com
asked “do you believe Aroldis Chapman threw a 105 m.p.h. pitch?” It was split 50:50.
What do you think the vote would have been had Chapman pitched for the Red Sox rather than the Reds?
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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 2, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
more of them think Aroldis threw 105 then those that think Obama is born in the US
so, uh, we’ve got that going for us.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Bill Simmons would already have 274 articles & podcasts dedicated to him
And we would be familiar with some interesting pronounciations of “Aroldis”.
“Ahldis has got a wicked pissah of a heatah”
I wonder if there’s a college study that shows how exposing my generation to Three’s Company set gender relations back approximately 715 years
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
There's another poll on minorleagueball.com asking whether you'd rather have Chapman or Julio Teheran going forward
Teheran is a stud 19 yo pitcher in the Braves system. Right now it’s 2-1 for Chapman.
People love triple digits!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I'm having trouble getting excited about Sappelt
Maybe it’s because I see Stubbs and Bruce in center and right for the next decade or so, and Sappelt doesn’t fit my idea of a left fielder. What am I missing? And I ask this in all sincerity. I want to be wrong on thisd one.
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by poojols on Sep 2, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
extraneous d'd
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Sep 2, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If Stubbs can't cut his strikeouts, I don't see him sticking more than 2 years.
Although, if he can OPS .750 with his speed and defense, he’s probably worth it unless someone special comes along.
someone special
you mean, like Dave Sappelt?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 2, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This is very valid. He's certainly no sure thing, but here are some reasons to be high on him.
He doesn’t strike out nearly as often as Stubbs did in the minors. (Like, about half as much). He also seems to make consistent hard contact. His BABIP is crazy high, but to me that’s an indication of the quality of contact he makes as well as his speed.
About that speed: He may not be quite as fast as Stubbs, but it’s definitely close. Sappelt certainly doesn’t have Stubbs’ raw power, and probably won’t ever (he’s only 5’9") but that speed, combined with his contact rates and solid walk rates, could look really good in the leadoff spot.
Baseball America rated him the best outfield defender in the organization last year. His arm is only average, but his range is Stubbsian.
So what you have is a guy who could possibly bring Stubbs’ speed and defense, plus better AVG and OBP, but with a bit less power. If anything, he’s a good backup plan if Stubbs falters.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Also, this is Sappelt's age 23 season. His cumulative line so far is .339/.391/.504 over three levels
Over those same 3 levels in Stubbs’ age 23 season (2008) his cumulative line was .277/.371/.417
I’d say one compares favorably to the other.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
But Sappelt's SLG is inflated by triples. Dunno if Stubbs' was.
Stubbs also didn’t show any power until he got to the MLB..
Does it matter how a player's SLG gets there, as long as it's there?
Sappelt’s ISOp this year is .165
Stubbs in his comparable year was .140
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
and either way, they'll be home basing in GABP.
I like his odds for keeping a decent SLG.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 2, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, I like Sappelt
But if Drew cuts down his Ks, his line is gonna look a LOT better. If he learns how to bunt on top of that, you’ve got a great CF.
Sappelt is a nice backup plan/trade piece though.
That's a lot of ifs. And my guess is if he significantly cuts down on the Ks, you'll see a pretty significant power drop as well.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Hm, that's agood point.
Hadn’t thought about that.. but a lot of the K with Stubbs are of the looking vareity
Amen on the bunting.
I hope the Reds place a high priority on teaching Stubbs to bunt this offseason. With his speed, the bunt has to be a weapon. Learning to bunt also would allow Stubbs to break those pesky slumps he falls into.
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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 2, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Sappelt is at a 15 HR/550 AB pace though isn't he?
With lots of triples and doubles. He’s definitely not as fast. But if he OBP’s a lot better than Drewfus and provides comparable defense.. it’s close.
Drew’s power and SB/Defense capability probably makes him a better long-term look than Sappelt. But Sappelt’s trade value could be nice sometime soon. But, if Drew cuts down his Ks, he’s definitely better than Sappelt because he’s an elite player at that point.
Well, in Stubbs' age 23 season he hit 7 homers in 470 ABs. Sappelt has 9 in 484.
I’m not really sure what you are saying. I’m also not sure how you know Sappelt is “definitely not as fast”.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Don't know, but every eyewitness report I've seen says he's a complete burner.
It’s not like Stubbs is the fastest man to ever play the game.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Cool!
I like Sappelt more now. I mean, I did before, but I’m a little skeptical. Sounds like Sappelt is more progressed at his age than Stubbs was. Might as well trade Drew :D
Or just see how young players develop and wait to make rash decisions
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Sappelt is fast, but not a great base-stealer.
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by RedsMasochist on Sep 2, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
only 5’9" ?
That’s awfully petite for an OFer.
Especially if that’s the number on his baseball card. If so, his real height is probably 5’-7". Or less.
Can he play SS? He could be the next David Eckstein!
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But is he scrappy?
And a “ballplayer”. And, you know, white?
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by poojols on Sep 2, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If nothing else, trade bait.
Dealing from a surplus, particularly when it comes to starting pitching, power hitting or an up the middle position, is a wonderful thing.
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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 2, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Either great organizational depth or a potential nice trade chip.
This organization is just crazy deep right now!
I think Sappelt will be a guy somebody finds a place for
He’s a hard worker despite being undersized, and is tearing the cover off the ball. He’s not going to be a power threat to the level of Stubbs, but I think he projects to be more of a traditional leadoff hitter with good speed, range in the OF, and a strong OBP. I’d be perfectly ok with having him and Stubbs at the top of the order as long as he keeps producing in Louisville, and with him, Stubbs, and Bruce, we’d never see a line drive drop in that outfield.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Sep 2, 2010 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That would be a really nasty OF.
But do you really want to play his bat in LF? I mean, I’m not totally against it because he has pretty nice gap power and ~15 HR power it seems. I dunno if I’ll ever like Stubbs at the top of the order though.
With Stubbs providing power from center, I think you could get away with Sappelt in left.
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by RedsMasochist on Sep 2, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhere, Sean Henry weeps.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
not that related to today's FO
Torreyes came over from the Venezuelan Summer League after tearing it apart to the tune of .390/.468/.606 with 23 walks and 11 strikeouts (yeah, that is correctly typed) in 285 PA.
holy shit. how are we not tlaking about tihs 17 year old more?
It is plenty related to today's FO
He just got called up to Dayton and got a hit in his debut. He’s a really exciting guy who we’ve been talking about in the AZL all year. Look alive, Pisscow!
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by BK on Sep 2, 2010 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Durham has clinched the IL South
And Scranton has clinched the North. Only the West is yet to be decided. Virtually tied, with five games left to play.
In all likelihood, both Columbus and Louisville will make the post-season. The only question is which one will be the wild card and which one will be the division winner. (It’s theoretically possible for the WC winner to come out of IL North instead, but unlikely. They’re 4-5 games back, with only five games left in the season.)
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how do the seeds work?
what are the chances the Bats play the Clippers in the first round?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
first you plant them in the ground
then you have to water them and give them sunlight.
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by Slyde on Sep 2, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
someone
tell this guy he’s doing it wrong.
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The seeds
are pre-determined, based on the divisions. Not sure if it’s geographical or if it’s rotated yearly.
First Round Schedule (Best of Five):
September 8, 9 South Division Winner at West Division Winner, North Division Winner at Wild Card Winner
September 10, 11*, 12* West Division Winner at South Division Winner, Wild Card Winner at North Division Winner
Governors’ Cup Finals Schedule (Best of Five):
September 14,15 South/West Division Series Winner at North/Wild Card Series Winner
September 16,17*,18* North/Wild Card Series Winner at South/West Division Series Winner
* If Necessary
The Bats won’t play the Clippers in the first round. They will play Durham if they (the Bats) win the division. Otherwise, they get Scranton.
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thanks
i was really hoping to see a Bats/Clippers playoff game here, but i guess i’ll settle.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
you might see
a Bats-Clippers championship game.
They could end up playing for the Governors Cup, if they get by Durham and Scranton.
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You might see a Bats-Clippers championship game. If they each win their first round matchups.
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Too bad it's not going to be the dominant bats of all summer
I hear Maloney for sure, and likely Balentien and a couple more arms (Del Rosario, J. Smith) are coming up.
They might wait
until after the playoffs are over.
There’s usually a last wave of callups after the Governors Cup is won.
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Balentien not in today's Bats lineup.
So it looks like he is definitely getting added to the Reds roster.
Sappelt, CF
Cozart, SS
Dorn, 1B
Frazier, LF
Mesoraco, C
Terrero, RF
Negron, 2B
Eyemann, 3B
Reineke, P
The Arizona Fall League rosters are out.
The Reds have revealed the names of six players they are sending to the Peoria Saguraros. They are:
RHP James Avery
LHP Jeremy Horst
LHP Philippe Valiquette
C Devin Mesoraco
SS Kris Negron
OF Dave Sappelt
The AFL begins in early October and concludes in mid-November, featuring a 32-game schedule. It’s an opportunity for selected prospects to get more work in in front of GMs, scouts and the like. Also, players sometimes are sent to the AFL to showcase as possible trade bait.
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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 2, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Saguaros. Can't type in Spanish when I'm in a hurry.
Nor when I’m not.
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by Thundering Turtle on Sep 2, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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