SIS - Least favorite Red edition
by obc2 on Sep 14, 2010 4:04 PM EDT
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PrintIt seems that since its inception RR has always bashed its men in Red. The earliest Least Favorite Red on Red Reporter I remember was Ryan Franklin back in the day, and I must credit Ash for that. I remember Red Menace yelling at Hollandsworth for innings and innings from the left field bleaches that season also. LaWhiff wasn't very appreciated either. That team also had McCracken and Royce Clayton, if im not mistaken. Plenty of hot mess to chose from as least favorite Red. .
Then came CPat. Then Taveras. And lets not forget the inordinate amount of Rosales bashing last season. Dusty has been a favorite target all along (although my favorite manager to bask was Jerry Narron, mainly because I couldn't flipping understand a word he was saying into the microphone).
Badroyo always exhumes a few demons from amongst our midst. So does Dusty...whether he is 10 games up or out of first place.
But its pretty clear this season's LFR is Coco Cordero. Obviously.
Who are some of your Least Favorite Reds from pre-RR years? Surely many of us here frothed at the mouth when watching televised games during our youth. Who'd y'all hate the mostest?
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hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thunder stealer
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
I green'd both of these becuase it had to be down.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
so many...
Rheal Cormier, Esteban Yan, Joe Mays, Chris Michalak, Royce Clayton, Eric Milton, Jimmy Haynes, Joey Hamilton..
but I’d have to say Jim Edmonds ranks pretty high.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
by GrooveLeg on Sep 14, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Eseban Yan was hardly a red long enough to hate
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 15, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
doesn't stop Jim Edmonds.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Sep 15, 2010 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't hate anybody pre-RR
I learned to hate here.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
And we hate you for it
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
You forgot Milton
Pre-RR days, I’ll say Jimmy Haynes/Jose Acevado.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Oh boy... let's see who all I can remember...
Jim Edmonds
Eric Milton
Ryan Dempster
Corey Patterson
Wily Taveras
Rheal Cormier
Royce Clayton
Josh Fogg
Gary Majewski
Kip Wells
Milton and Dempster were the only guys I really didn’t like before RR.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Sep 14, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Jim Edmonds.
Historically, Jeff Branson.
That guy was terrible.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 14, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Jim Bowden for starters
Deion Sanders (more ego than talent)
Eric Milton (redefining suck)
Marge Schott (loved white folks)
Ryan Franklin
CoPat
Willie May Taveras
Josias Manzanillo (the personification of ST SSS)
Ryan Jorgensen (roider)
Mike Lincoln (sucked since Abe was killed)
Edwin Encarnacion (and his mopey, hole-riddled glove)
Josh Fogg (smirked while sucking, so perpetual smirk)
Gary Majewski (magically worthless)
Mike Stanton (bad post-roid? signing)
Pete Rose (once my fave)
D’Angelo Jimenez (everyone hated him)
Joe Valentine (wouldn’t give me an autograph)
Bret Boone and his thick-skulled roid rage
Jason LaRue (over-rated, no-hit, calls a bad game, mouth-breathing, redneck)
John Vander Wal (missed almost all of his Reds contract when he foolishly tore his knee shoveling snow)
Jimmy Haynes
Jimmy Anderson
Marc Kroon – walked everyone personally down to first base
Ray Knight
Leon Durham (disappeared from team to go on a coke bender)
Randy St. Claire (just suck suck suck)
and I’ve never really liked Johnny Bench.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
Why Bench?
I can understand Rose, the corked bat thing really put the nail in the coffin for me.
WYSIWIG
Bench always came off as this arrogant blowhard who was about showy jewelry and talking about himself.
And he was a horrible broadcaster.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 14, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Petey is so so so so correct.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
He's even worse off camera.
Just a cunt.
I do not like pickles.
by Pops Daniels on Sep 15, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I can attest to that from personal experience
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
In my brief interactions with him, so can I
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
ive met bench twice
And he was really nice both times. So was PDoc. And sukr.
I think people are nicer to me than you.
Except will carroll. He flashed his lanyard power and didn’t enjoy the big bag if dicks girls…
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 15, 2010 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't understand a word of that last paragraph
But Will Carroll is a total dick on Twitter, IMO.
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think Cabrera has drawn more ire than Coco this season
as for the past most-hated, i always hated Javier Valentin. and Juan Castro. Russell Branyan. Phil Norton. Felipe Lopez.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Danny Graves
It’s everyone’s fault but mine! Including the fans! Hey, have you seen my new Bentley?
I'm sure you all know me.
Umm, JIm Edmonds is obviously the only acceptable answer
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Sep 14, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Clay Carroll seemed to blow every lead
the Reds had when I was a kid. I know it didn’t really happen, but it appearedcthat way and I hated to see him come into a game.
Jim Kern. Bobby Tolan. Both were attitude guys.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Sep 14, 2010 5:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I got here just in time for Graves to suck ass and be a dick ... so him
also, Bob Boone as manager … couldn’t stand that fucker
i could think of a witty signature, i just haven't posted it yet.
60's - 80's
Ryan Franklin, who was probably one of the major contributing factors to my heart attack, is my all time least favorite pitcher. CoPat is my least favorite position player.
I had to go back through Baseball- Reference. I was surprised that there weren’t more to put on the list. I guess in the early years it was hard to hate your first love. And in the 70’s it was hard to dislike anyone. The 80’s meh, it got easier.
late 60’s
Alex Johnson – was actually pretty decent but I just did not like him
Darrel Chaney – I just never liked him
70’s
Pat Corrales – He made me cringe
Denis Menke
Dan Driessen – and that was way before Perez was traded to make room for him
Don Werner – no love for back up catchers
Harry Spilman
Frank Pastore – Fraaaank, Fraaank
Alex Trevino – But I guess no one could really take Bench’s place
Duane Walker
Charlie Puleo
Tracey Jones – and that was before I ever heard him speak
Terry Francona – although I did see him hit an Opening Day Home Run one year
Van Snider
Rob Dibble, Norm Charlton, and Randy Myers were nasty boys. Arthur Rhodes is a nasty MAN. by Brendanukkah
A lot of these guys hav a special place in my heart
Duane Walker? Loved him! Frank Pastore, Alex Trevino, Charlie Puleo . . . I don’t know what I was. Maybe becoming a Reds fan in the early 80s made me excuse the results.
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's mine, chronologically
Jim Edmonds
Willy Taveras
Adam Rosales
Norris Hopper
Jeff Keppinger
Rheal Cormier
Mike Stanton
Todd Coffey
Ben Weber
Brandon Claussen
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Sep 14, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I remember you saying Brandon Claussen @ Gordo's
and I still refuse to believe it
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 14, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I eventually came around on Hopper, but for the most part: this list.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the kipper-snacks.
i always liked Claussen
i have a thing for no talent crafty left handers. He was serviceable in 2005 before he shredded his shoulder.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 15, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
really? Claussen always seemed like a class act
not his fault his shoulder was held together with baling wire.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I liked him
But I think most disliked him because that’s who Aaron Boone was traded for. Plus people expected more because he was a Yankees “top prospect.” Like Ed Yarnall!
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jim Edmonds is obvious
Pokey Reese
Felipe L.opez
Wille Greene
Jimmy Haynes
Danny Graves
Cesar Hernandez…….he wasn’t here long in the early 90s
I also hated Bob Boone more than any other manager in my lifetime
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
by btcoop71 on Sep 14, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Bob Boone was and is the worst manager I ever saw.
I do not like pickles.
by Pops Daniels on Sep 15, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He might be the worst manager I've seen
But I think Jerry Morron had more “what the fuck is he doing?” moments than even Boone did. Maybe RR helped my thinking in that, though.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Sep 15, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
But Cesar left quite an impression
He was the worst late-inning defensive replacement ever….misplayed stuff so badly you couldn’t call it an error. But Perez continued to run him out there….probably one of the top reasons Perez was fired so quickly.
"Left field, going back, we're going home! Joey's done it again! Joey Votto a walk-off home run. The first of his career and it gives the Reds a seven game lead in the central!" --- George Grande, Sept. 11, 2010.
by cesarhernandez on Sep 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I forgot to mention Ceasar Hernandez.
I will never forget him losing a ball in CF in Wrigley and just falling flat on his back and laying there for a while, letting someone else get the ball. Wow, for a no-hit, good glove guy, he couldn’t catch a damn thing.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I never liked Jason LaRue very much.
by the finest muffins on Sep 14, 2010 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
Has anybody mentioned
Jim Edmonds?
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
by JasperRed on Sep 14, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
My list of hate
Robert Stubbs
Bronson Arroyo
Orlando Cabrera
Brandon Larson
Aaron Boone
Francisco Cordero
David Weathers
Elizardo Ramirez
Chris Michalak
Justin Lehr
Todd Van Poppel
Rick White
Reggie Taylor
Sean Casey
Eric Milton
Chris Gruler
David Espinosa
Devin Mesoraco
Zach Stewart
Chad Mottola
Jeff Branson
Kurt Stillwell
Lotta hate
Ok
How in the fuck can you hate Sean Casey? He’s the least hateable player of all time.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Sep 14, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Seconding this.
Also, it surprises me that someone would take the effort to actually hate prospects like Zach Stewart and Devin Mesoraco. It’s one thing to be wary of or just not all that interested in prospects, but actively hating them smacks of… can I make “ornery-ness” a word?
by the finest muffins on Sep 14, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, that's Laynce Nix.
Or anyone, post-Jukich.
by the finest muffins on Sep 14, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit!
That’s what happened when he got Rule 5’d to St. Louis! He ate their souls, causing them to be stuck in 2nd place limbo!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Ben Jukich has totally saved this team's season.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Hate takes zero effort
and I hated Z. Stewart b/c he was overhyped as a Red, and people bitched, moaned and complained that we were giving him up for Rolen. I couldn’t have been more glad to get rid of him.
As for Mesoraco, I hate him b/c he’s a 1st Round HS catcher, and how do those work out?
Get off my lawn
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sean Casey is one of the nicest people I've ever met
Not just nicest athlete. Yeah, he was slower than hell on the basepaths, and he was a human rain delay at the plate, but nobody’s perfect.
"Left field, going back, we're going home! Joey's done it again! Joey Votto a walk-off home run. The first of his career and it gives the Reds a seven game lead in the central!" --- George Grande, Sept. 11, 2010.
by cesarhernandez on Sep 15, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
like I said, Casey was a great guy
I just hated him as a ballplayer
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I hated Sean Casey when he got expensive, got fat, got slower (how the fuck was THAT possible), and continued to hit into what seemed like truckloads of double plays
That’s how the fuck I can hate Sean Casey.
As a person, I thought he was great and a class act, and I definitely got all warm and fuzzy when I met him when Uncle Carl owned the Reds and he remembered my name.
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Your memory is kind of crappy.
Dude was a pretty good player.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 16, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Where did I ever say Sean Casey wasn't a good player?
I just said I didn’t like his contract, didn’t like his decreasing footspeed, and didn’t like when he hit into double plays (b/c he was slow).
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 16, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy...1st basebman are supposed to hit homes runs.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
I hated Stillwell b/c my old man hated Stillwell
I hated Branson b/c he was one of my 1st memories of a bust
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you hate EZ Ramirez
guy pitched his brains out for a while in 2006, he was one of the reasons the reds stayed in contention. For about 3 months it was pretty much expected he would pitch 6-7 innings and gave up 2-3 runs.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 15, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
b/c The Lizard fucking sucked, and it seemed like I was the only one who knew it
It could also be Jerry Narron’s use of The Lizard that I hated, but I also hated The Lizard b/c he did in fact suck monkey balls
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Highlife
it always scares me that I have a lot in common with you when it comes to views on baseball. I don’t hate Sean Casey though
Hated Sean Casey as a ballplayer late in his career as a Red
Loved him before he got expensive. I’ve never been a fan of lifetime achievement award contracts, which is precisely what Casey’s last contract as a Red was.
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 16, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
coughBarryLarkincough
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
I actually didn't mind that contract b/c Griffey basically told the Reds to give it to Larkin
and whatever Griffey said was good enough for me
Imagine how history would have turned out had we actually traded Larkin to the Mets
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 16, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
To hate Sean Casey is to love childhood cancer. This is a fucking fact.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, hated him as a ballplayer, not as a man
I thought we were hating them as ballplayers, not as people?
And I love childhood cancer. Can’t get enough of it.
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again look up top -- Casey was a good-to-very-good player for many years with the
Reds. In fact, his last two seasons with the Reds were some of his best. Your hatred is misplaced.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 16, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Common, people!
What about:
Paul Householder
Buddy Bell
Cesar Cedeno
and the entire 1985 team, that got lucky enough to keep hope alive, even though they were thoroughly and deeply meh.
Not to mention the ex-Dodgers.
Dusty, Kal Daniels, Tim Belcher. It wasn’t Eric Davis’ fault, and he got out of there as soon as he could, so he gets a pass.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
my mistake
He was a pre-Dodger. Some guys are Dodgers, even before they are Dodgers, like Jeff Kent.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
I'll admit it -- I loved Mariano. I played second growing up.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I always liked the way the PA announcer said his name.
There were some good efforts at that time, including the infinite "y"s in Barryyyyyyyyyy LARkin, but “Marianoooo DUNcan” was my favorite. What a terrific name.
by the finest muffins on Sep 15, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed 100-percent. I loved that. In fact when I say his name in my head I say it like
the PA announcer.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Duncan seemed like such a badass.
I knew a couple of kids like farney that also played 2B b/c of Duncan.
Since only 1 kid could play 2B at a time, I did not get to play 2B, but also kinda maybe wanted to b/c of Duncan.
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 15, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
"Tooooooooooooooddddddddd BEN!zingerrrr!"
by Brendanukkah on Sep 16, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a good one too.
I remember Hal Morris’ being pretty entertaining … something like: hal. Moooooooooooooris.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 16, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Why hate Jeff Shaw?
My memory is fuzzy from junior high, but I thought he was, you know, really really good.
by the finest muffins on Sep 15, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing I remember most about Shaw (other than him being a good pitcher) was that
he was the first MLB player to make an appearance for a new team at the All-Star game.
In 1998 he was voted into the ASG as a Red but got traded to the Dodgers during the break and made his first appearance as a Dodger at said ASG. Just weird, silly stuff.
This then led to Bret Boone being added to the NL roster. Boone did not play. Shaw pitched the eighth inning.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing I remember about Shaw
was that he signed a cheap deal to stay with the Reds (he’s from Washington Court House), and Bowden told him that he wouldn’t trade him. Then Bowden traded him.
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That's what I member.
And to Shaw’s credit, he said of the painful ordeal (which involved his family moving to LA, where they couldn’t stand being), was that he knew he was signing a contract without a no-trade clause.
And after he finished the remaining full 3 years of his contract in All-Star fashion, he hung it up at age 34 to move back home.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep good guy and further proof that Jim Bowden is a terrible person.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't that uncommon
Theo Epstein basically did the same thing to Arroyo.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 15, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And look what that got them ...
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 16, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Except that Bronson bought a boat, not a house,
and if he wasn’t traded, he’d be lost in the Sox pen.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 16, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yes. I remember that well.
That Bret Boone non-appearance set off a string of years where the Reds’ lone representative did not get into the All-Star game. This may not have actually happened, but that’s how my memory has it going down.
by the finest muffins on Sep 15, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved Buddy Bell. Best defensive third baseman I ever saw in person. And he chain smoked in the dugout - that's a plus.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
buddy bell is damn near a HOF player
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 15, 2010 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
intriguing material at bbref
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"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
Funny thing is
that doesn’t take defense into account, and while Robinson was one of a kind defensively, Bell was also very, very good. But when it comes to defense, reputation is all that can get you in the Hall.
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Pre-RR?
Does that include Reds Daily?
I’ll have to say:
Deion Sanders
Jimmy Haynes
Aaron Boone
Bret Boone
Bob Boone
Matt Boone (why not?)
Mark Sweeney
Danny Graves
Brian Moehler
David Weathers
Jason Larue
Juan Castro
Willie Greene
Jeff Brantley
Ray Knight
Manny Aybar
Wilton Guerrero
Donnie Sadler
Dave Collins
Paul Wilson
Ryan Dempster
Jimmy Anderson
Josias Manzanillo
Jason Romano
Dave Williams (although, I think he may have come post-RR)
I really had no reason to hate players in the 80s. Even looking at the rosters now, I can’t help but honestly say that I liked every one of them, except Dave Collins. And maybe Jay Tibbs.
good old Paul Wilson was one of my favorites
i loved watching him in 2004, especially early, when he was able to gut, grind, and think his way through innings.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 15, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought of PW the other day when I saw Kyle Farnsworth in a game
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
by jch24 on Sep 15, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what was so painful about it.
Reminds me of what my seventh grade baseball coach told me once during a mound visit: [speaking slowly] “Your pitches are sinking due to a lack of velocity.”
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 7:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm a young whippersnapper of 22
My dislike list is small
Willy Mo Pena
Kyle Lo(h)se
Francisco Cordero
Danny Graves
hmm
Ben Weber
Eric Milton
Bob Boone
Adam Rosales
Mike Burns
McFlurry
Paul Bako (i still don’t understand why they DFA’d Ross rather than Bako)
Fogg
F. Lopez
R. Olmedo
Josh Hancock
Joey Votto is my MVP.
Ross couldn't catch outfield assists
it was almost uncanny how many he dropped.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Don Blasingame
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Pete Rose fixed that wagon for you! :P
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I seemed to only catch games Mark Portugal or Steve Parris pitched
when I wanted to see guys like Burba or Harnisch. That made me unhappy.
I really haven’t had too much hate in my heart for any of the Reds. The only one I can think of is, well, Jim Edmonds.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Sep 15, 2010 4:54 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
oh yeah, Mark Portugal
I couldn’t stand him. Seemed like he was an automatic loss machine every 5 days.
I tend to think of Edmonds as an Angel, so I don’t hate him so much. That’ll get me flagged, probly, but there it is.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
good call...add him to my list as well
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
I am a man of simple hatreds.
Bob Boone
Bronson Arroyo
Bret Boone
Joey Hamilton
Jimmy Haynes
Todd Coffey
Jim Edmonds
Jack Armstrong
Johnny Bench
Ron Oester
I do not like pickles.
by Pops Daniels on Sep 15, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Yeah.. I should have included Bench and Oester too and Knight...what a group of cry baby pricks
(along with Blasingame who just plain stunk up the place).
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
your list is very, uh, white!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 15, 2010 9:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How can you hate the Colonel?
I don’t remember disliking Reds players back in the day, but some guys that I wish had never been on the team are:
Phil Norton
Dan Serafini
Joey Hamilton
Josias Manzanillo
Jimmy Anderson
Tim Hummel
Jeff Austin
Scott Randall
Jose Acevedo
Reggie Taylor
Eric Valent
Those are the majority of the scrubs from the 2003 team. I hated that season.
One name that will never be on the list of players I disliked is Dernell Stenson. But the assholes that killed him are on the list.
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Just saw that Brendan used the "How can you hate the colonel" line in yesterday's Caleb Date in History fanpost
So it turns out, everything I do is just a knock-off of what Brendan has already done. My time is near, I believe.
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But you are much more famous!
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Such is the way of us visionaries
Some no talent rides our coattails to all the sofa king glory.
by Brendanukkah on Sep 16, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna need you to keep feeding me useful stuff
You can be the brains and I’ll be the guy that just looks like a nerd.
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I really liked Reggie Taylor
but then again, I loved all the scrappy no talent guys before I realized that they kind of suck.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Acevedo was very nice, as was his wife. I thought he was going to become more than he became.
Serafini is a name from the past. Saw him pitch a day game on the one yr anniversary of 9/11
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 15, 2010 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw Serafini give one up to Pujols that landed in Ft. Thomas
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
I actually didn't dislike Acevedo
Like you, I thought he was going to be something more. But, he was on that 2003 team, which was the least fun Reds team of the last decade to watch.
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I like that his name was almost "avocado."
I like avocados.
by the finest muffins on Sep 15, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked him.
I think he had good stuff but no idea how to be a starter. I always wished they would have let him take over for Graves as closer. I think he could have dialed it up to 97-98 with a good changeup in relief.
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was awesome
I watched him growing up when he was in A-ball, as he was the ace of the staff of my hometown minor league team. Him and Ben Broussard were the only two guys I remember from that team that went on to do anything with the Reds, so they’re awesome.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Sep 15, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
God, that list brings back some bad memories
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
how did i forget about Phil Norton
whenever Dave Miley brought him into a game, that was gasoline.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I may be mistaken
but I don’t think anyone has mentioned Eddie Milner yet.
"Left field, going back, we're going home! Joey's done it again! Joey Votto a walk-off home run. The first of his career and it gives the Reds a seven game lead in the central!" --- George Grande, Sept. 11, 2010.
by cesarhernandez on Sep 15, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
I didn't have a problem with any of those guys in the 80s.
Eddie Milner – that how you played basball in the 80s. Fast, good athlete. That every centerfielder on every team.
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget the cocaine!
That’s how you played baseball in the 80s!!
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Jim Edmonds touches little boys
by jacob brumfield on Sep 15, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Obviously, Edmonds is my least favorite of all time.
But I can’t believe I’m the first to mention him (at least I think I am).
JOE FUCKING MORGAN!
I get the Bench hate from a lot of you but Morgan, in my mind, is a 100,000,000-times worse.
Perhaps it’s because I only know him as a broadcaster but Joe Morgan is a terrible shit head. Arrogant, ignorant, delusional and fucking awful to listen to. Sure he’s one of the best 2Bs in the history of the game. He’s also an insufferable people on the planet.
FUCK JOE MORGAN.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
*one of the most insufferable people on the planet
I hate him so much I got blind rage just typing this.
Just look at this smug prick — I want to punch him in the face so damn bad!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take Morgan over McCarver any day, and hour, any game.
Then again, I’d a take silence over McCarver.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather listen to a box full of puppies being passed through a meat grinder than McCarver
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
This
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed but McCarver was never a Red. Also, Tim's not pompous just fucking stupid.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He's pompous enough to keep talking when he doesn't know what he's talking about.
And pompous enough to not correct himself when the replay shows that Tim was wrong. DICK!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You just described half the people on this site
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
You've got that right!
/potmeetskettle’d
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You've got that right!
/potmeetskettle’d
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Stupid ass SBN!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
SBN has been farting HARD on me today.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 15, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Close your mouth!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That should sew up this issue.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I hate McCarver more than Morgan, I just think McCarver's
honestly fucking stupid.
Joe seems to have some intelligence and CHOOSES to be a ignorant. McCarver’s just plaing dumb.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 15, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Shlabotnik.
he killed my beatbox trainer
I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?
So if we are including announcers:
tHom and clownboy – it would take a sabremetric graph for me to figure out which of these two guys is more annoying.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Cowpile > Thom
Cuz Cowpile is OK when paired with Welsh…unlike Thom. Last night soooooooooo many times Instant Expert Thom gave his pitching opinion, which was then followed by Welsh explaining why that opinion was not completely valid.
Thom, you are the PBP guy. You are not a former player, and many in your audience have seen more games than you. When you have an opinion, ask Welsh about it on the air. That’s how it works.
And define one of your pronouns every once in a while, cockface.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 16, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Testify!
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Hmm, I wonder if this SIS was inspired by me?
since topping my list of current guys is Jonny Gomes? Plus:
Eric Milton
Felipe Lopez pre-2004 (literally the worst player I’ve ever seen)
Elizardo ramirez
Jose acevedo
Todd Van Poppel
John Vander Wal
Corey patterson
Willy Taveras
Rey Olmedo
John Riedling (because the announcers seemed oblivious to his sucking)
Gary Majewski
Ramon Ortiz (we tried WAY too many of these types for a decade+)
Bill Bray (borders on hate, not quite there yet until he blows something in the postseason)
Laynce Nix (same as above)
Kirk Saarloos
Paul bako
Josh Fogg
Ron Oester
I am surprised no one has mention Chris Dickerson, it always seemed like he has some people who are irrationally down on him to me.
I think folks here were only COMPARATIVELY down on the Lorax.
I think everyone was fine with him being a 4th outfielder with the Reds.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 16, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Jocketty was a CDick hater
or else just a former-Cardinal lover. I wonder which emotion was a stronger force in that trade?
And rightfully so.
Chris is not a winner.
Jonny Gomes is a winner.
Danny Driessen was not a winner
Pete Rose was a winner.
what more can you say.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
The winner that is not a winner is not the winner.
Loa Zoo
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Deadelus
where is she these days, anyways?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
She texted me twice when I was in DC
But that was the last known contact – over a week ago…maybe she’s in an airport bar in Cognito.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Plus, this SIS is for pre-RR Reds.
Not that that has deterred any Jon Edmonds-type hate.
by Brian B on Sep 16, 2010 10:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who's Jon Edmonds?
Sigh. I think I may opt for a droid next time.
by Brian B on Sep 17, 2010 7:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Eh
My droid likes to imagine what I mean too. In many ways, it’s good because then I can type fast and not worry about missing keys, but sometimes, I type exactly what I mean and it changes it. Bitches! (corrected to hitches!)
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My phone would correct fuck to duck
I fixed that right away. I love my fucks.
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
You asked for it
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
i hope your kids stumble on your redreporter history one day.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
by justin007000 on Sep 18, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That came from my son's /b/ folder
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
He was too unattractive to hate.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Oh wait that s Roland Office....all this time I had these two guys confused...
Rolando is a pretty good guy…
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
I agree.
I figured he’d get some hate though.
He was one of two Reds who gave me an autograph outside the Astro Dome after the first Reds game I ever saw. The other? Tim Layana.
That's sad. I didn't know.
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (AP) – Former major league relief pitcher Tim Layana,
part of the Cincinnati Reds team that went to the 1990 World Series, died
Saturday after his sport utility vehicle was broadsided. He was 35.
His passengers – brother Michael Layana, 37, Gregory Hoel, 34, and Bruce
Taylor, 35 – were treated at Kern Medical Center and released.
The foursome had been heading home from a charity golf tournament to raise
money for juvenile diabetes, said another brother, John Layana.
No one in the other car was injured.
Layana, who pitched for the Reds and San Francisco Giants, was a baseball
coach at a Catholic high school in Santa Monica.
Layana’s professional career started in 1986, when the New York Yankees
drafted him from Loyola Marymount University. He spent four seasons in the
Yankees’ farm system. The Cincinnati Reds drafted him in 1990.
The right-hander was 5-5 with a 4.56 ERA and two saves in 78 career relief
appearances. His best year was 1990 with the World Series champion Reds
when he went 5-3 with a 3.49 ERA and two saves in 55 games.
I hate Adam Rosales
i hated how much cincinnati fans loved that no talent hack because he ran to first on a walk.
Joey Votto is my MVP.
Yes.
But his fan club was pretty damned cute.
I do not like pickles.
by Pops Daniels on Sep 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/MileyCyrus'd
"Nothing wakes you up on a cold January morning like hot horse-piss." - Kevin Mitchell is Batman
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