This Reds-Cards Series is Kind of a Big Deal
Divisions aren't won in August. Let's just get that out of the way right off the bat. The Reds could get swept by the Cardinals this week and still win the division by 5 games at the end. So, when I say this is the biggest series ever in Great American Ball Park history, I don't mean this is a make-or-break series.
What I mean is, these three games might be the most impassioned and intense games we have ever seen at GABP. Heck, this may be the most energized series we've seen during the regular season in Cincinnati since the 1990 season. It's hard to find a comparable series in the last 2 decades where the Reds have played with first place on the line in August or September, and with the fans are latching on to that excitement. Here are the closest comps that I can find:
2006 - August 7, 8, 9, 10 - St. Louis comes to town with a 3.5 game lead. The series draws almost 156,000 fans, but the Reds were pulling out all of the stops to try to get fans to the ballpark with promotions like dollar dogs and half-priced tickets. The team came into the series having lost 6 of 8 and few thought that the 57-54 Reds were a legitimate playoff contender. After losing the first game, the Reds took the middle two and cut the Cardinals lead to 2.5 games, but lost the series capper and went back on the road still 3.5 back.
This series was comparable to today in many ways, but I don't really remember many fans believing in that team like they do in the current one. It seemed like the only time the Reds drew fans that year was when they went out of their way with a major promotion. This current series with the Cardinals has nothing but baseball on the docket, and it looks like the remaining ticket counts are dwindling for all 3 games. 2006 was a fun year, in a smoke-and-mirrors kind of way, but I don't think that season matched up to this level of excitement.
1999 - Nothing will compare to the playoff atmosphere of game 163 versus the Mets, but honestly that is more like a playoff game than a regular season game, even if it counts toward the regular season record. The NL Central was a two-team race in '99, with the Reds and Astros tied in the standings as late as October 1. However, the Astros did not come to Cincinnati after July 5th, and that four-game weekend series merely drew 115k+ to the ballpark. The two teams did meet for two games in Houston during the last week of the season and drew 106k for the two games, but since that wasn't in Cincinnati, it doesn't count.
1995 - The Reds led the division by 4 games on August 1st and the lead never shrunk below that the rest of the way, reaching double-digits for most of September. Couple that with the remaining fallout from the 1994 strike and the Reds actually weren't drawing that many fans to the ballpark in August and September that year.
1994 - The strike pretty much made sure that no meaningful games were played. The Reds last 7 games before the strike were home games versus the Braves and Dodgers and they averaged 39k fans a game over that stretch. Would have been nice to have seen how that year played out, don't you think?
1990 - August 10, 11, 12, 13 - The San Francisco Giants came to town down by 4.5 games, but the struggling Reds had just lost 13 of their previous 17 while the Giants had won 10 of their previous 15. The Giants came in cocky and ready to prove something, but the fans were ready, with 173k showing up for the series. The Reds took 3 of 4 in the series and got some more comfortable padding on their rival.
A month later, the Dodgers came town in 2nd place, though this time they were 6.5 back at the start of the series. They drew 113k for the series (remember, Riverfront could hold 52k though), and despite losing 2 of 3, the Reds maintained a 5.5 game lead when the Dodgers left.
Perhaps the closest comp to this series is the series between the Reds and Giants on July 31, August 1, 2 in 1987. The second-place Giants came to town trailing the Reds by 2 games. The Reds were 6 games over when the series started, but it was a young, talented team that was expected to win, so it's not like they were surprising people with their success. The series drew 119k, which would be a fantastic number for the series this year, but that was in a larger park and it was a weekend series.
This was all meant just as a fun exercise to put some perspective on how rare a series like this one with the Cardinals has been for Reds fans over the last two decades. I expect this to be a nerve-wracking, exciting, and hopefully happy experience. Whatever happens, be sure to enjoy the moment. These types of moments have been few and far between for us fans. Don't let it slip by without soaking it in.
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my excitement level is to the point that i get nauseous thinking about it.
it’s the same feeling i get when the colts are in the super bowl, uk is in the tournament, or brock lesnar/anderson silva are fighting. it’s been a long way since the reds made me feel this way!
Agreed. When I get this excited/nervous about a sporting event, sometimes I have to stop watching
I’m debating whether or not to watch this one from the beginning.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm stoked and freaked and everything...
This series is going to result in a lot of trash-talking either way… I hope it’s coming from me.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
This.
I’d be less nervous and more excited if it were any team besides the Cardinals. I really, really, really don’t want to hear it from my relatives if the Reds tank in this series.
by the finest muffins on Aug 9, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm pretty effin' stoked.
especially since i’ll be there tomorrow night, but i can’t say it made me pee my pants. just as the Reds could get swept and win by 5 games, they could sweep and still lose by 5.
my hope-ometer has been on a steady incline all year, but “pee-my-pants-excitement” would probably be the peak, and it’s way too soon for that.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
All stops should be pulled out entirely
Whatever the opposite of mud is, put that all over the balls. Whatever Matt Holliday’s least favorite song is, play that everytime he steps to the plate (or a flyball is hit his way). And make sure plenty of “illegals” are posted to provide “hospitality” in the visitor’s dugout.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
As a Vikings fan, this is not as bad as when we signed Favre
But it’s not far from it.
FUCK YOU, JIM EDMONDS.
GET THE FUCK OFF MY TEAM.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Aug 9, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait
What?
"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."
by beasleymachine on Aug 9, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade him during the 2 weeks he's healthy
I guess.
"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."
by beasleymachine on Aug 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I fucking knew it!
I fanposted that shit 3 weeks ago!
Later, C-Dick! And, perhaps later Nixy!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 9, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Say it isn't so.
I will say that I have not initially liked some of the moves Walt has made and they turned out fine to well. But, my gut is telling me, and I quote, “Motherfucking son of a cock lovin’ whore! I hate this!”
You are as dumb as anything you hate.
or for our 4 day a week starting LF'er
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
an Edmonds/Gomes platoon is what I'm saying.
I’m not saying I like the idea, but it wouldn’t shock me if it happens.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 9, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ok i see
i think that would be fine. edmonds is having a nice year.
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
Let's see.
Jim Edmonds splits this year: 293/.358/.500 vs RHP, .256/.319/.465 vs LHP
Gomes splits this year: .266/.308/.436 vs RHP, .286/.373/.482 vs LHP
Oh, and Nix only has 15 PAs vs LHP, but vs RHP he’s hitting .261/.313/.445
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I can't wait to see him jog for a ball just so that he can dive.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
After he took a bad route to start with!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 9, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And then does a somersault to wrap things up.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
He's such fucking douche.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 9, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't realize
that he’s only making $850,000 this year. This is of course because he’s 40 and was out all year, but still.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
edmonds this season vs RHP
.293/.358/.500, 6 HR
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
correct, i was looking at his total 2010 PA
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
2006 Cards
We even have our own version of Pujols
by JPGs on Aug 9, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HOLY FUCK! Now I know how Vikings fans felt when they got Favre.
I hate that guy so much. Overrated defender. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. No shit.
It’s bad enough I have to root for one geriatric douchebag that I have hated for 15 years. Now there’s another.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Aug 9, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit son, you weren't kidding...
this is… surprising…
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
who gets dropped from the 25 man for him?
We’ve got to dump someone right? Nix?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 9, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
trade nix and cairo for hanley
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Aug 9, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
go Jimmy Edmonds!!!
He’s my new favorite Red!!! (Westie still sticks with Stubbs)
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Aug 9, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
go Jimmy Edmonds!!!
He’s my new favorite Red!!! (Westie still sticks with Stubbs)
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Aug 9, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Remember that series late in 1999, 2 games with the Strohs?
We beat Lima in game 1, and lost to Hampton in game 2. That was on the road, but I feel similarly about it.
The type of excitement I'm feeling for this series is something I haven't experience for
baseball in a long, long time. It’s akin to OSU/Michigan or a big bowl game. The problem I’m experiencing is that those are one day ordeals. I haven’t been this excited for a series of games in a long time. I’m trying to pace myself.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 9, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Columbus native here. I'm feelin ya.
My wife is going crazy with me being excited a few days in a row here or there instead of each Saturday.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
Hah!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 9, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Reds have convinced us they can win games...
at least for me… But, I think this series could go a long way in convincing the fans (provided they can take 2 games) that the Reds can complete in a playoff type atmosphere against top level pitching. Especially with STL arranging their stud sp’s just for the series.

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