Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Travis? Reds win, 7-5.
by Gray on Aug 29, 2010 4:20 PM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Drew Stubbs went 3 for 5 with a double and two stolen bases. Oh, and he scored three runs. Honorable mentions go to Sam LeCure (two perfect innings of relief) and Ramon Hernandez, who went 3 for 4.
Key Plays
- Drew Stubbs led off for the Reds with a double, moved to third on a Chris Valaika bunt, and scored on a Joey Votto groundout. Reds lead, 1-0.
- The Cubs got one back in the second on a Geovany Soto walk and singles by Jeff Baker and Starlin Castro. Tied at 1.
- The Reds came back with one run in each of the next two innings. In the second, Heisey doubled and scored on a Hernandez single. In the third, Stubbs singled, moved to third on a Votto single, and scored on a Scott Rolen sac fly. Reds up, 3-1.
- Travis Wood let the Cubs tie it up in the fifth, giving up two doubles and a single and an RBI groundout. 3-3.
- LeCure didn't allow any baserunners in the sixth and seventh innings. In the meantime, Jay Bruce hit a solo HR in the sixth. In the seventh, Drew Stubbs reached on a bunt single. He stole second and the throw went into the outfield, allowing him to take third as well. He then scored on a Chris Valaika single. Reds up, 5-3.
- Arthur Rhodes came in to pitch the eighth, giving up a Soto double and a Kosuke Fukudome HR to tie the game at 5. After two more singles and a K, Logan Ondrusek came in and induced a double play to get out of the inning.
- In the eighth, Chris Heisey singled to left. Hernandez, the next batter, singled through the infield hole between first and second (as Brantley noted, "that's the hole he loves!"). Heisey headed for third and Fukudome threw the ball off line and into the dugout. HAVOC run!
- Paul Janish then singled Ramon over to third. Brandon Phillips came in to run for Hernandez, and he scored on a Jonny Gomes grounder that ended up being an infield hit. Reds lead, 7-5.
- Francisco Cordero came in to pitch a perfect inning to close it out. Reds win!
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Also, what I love reading
is O-Cab pretty much going “Janish is playing awesome, let him play”
Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.
quote or it didn't happen?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I think it's just reading between the lines
by Brendanukkah on Aug 29, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
stay tuned for tomorrow morning’s Reposter!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 29, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine too
I bought a partial season ticket package last year and told everyone who would listen that the pieces were in place and they’d do something special this year. They all told me I was delusional. Which I am, but not about the Reds.
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Aug 29, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I told my roommates last year the Reds would be the team to compete with the Cardinals
I told the division would break down to
Reds/Cards
Brewers/Cubs
Pirates/Astros
I wasn’t completely right as the Cubs were far worse than expected. But one of my roommates words when I told him that I had little doubt the Reds would be better than the Cubs was “You have your Red colored glasses on.”
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
PotG
I did not realize: Stubbs has now stolen 24 bases, and been caught 3 times. That’s a very nice SB%.
He’s got speed, power, and defense. If that guy could figure out how to stop striking out, and boost his OBP a little, he would be an awesome player.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
He's been having a fantastic month of August
at the plate. My favorite thing about his game today was his patience at the plate. He’s seeing the ball really well right now.
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Slyde said this forever ago, but if he can learn to bunt well consistently, I think he could average .250 and OBP .330-.340
and combined with his power, be an awesome CFer.
Hopefully he spends the entire offseason bunting.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I never realized until I was at a game in person that he is so much taller than Gomes, et al
I wonder if he is the tallest non-pitcher on the team. Kid runs like effortlessly, so I just assumed he was a little dude
dude's a fucking gazelle
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Usain Bolt'd
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 30, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Go Reds!
They’re my favorite professional baseball team!
Consume excrement and expire......
by adaircam4 on Aug 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I enjoyed this story from Hal's blog
BRONSON ARROYO and several Reds are wearing gray t-shirts that say: Property of Waffle House Athletic Department.
Huh?
"I was eating in a Waffle House in Covington, Ky. one day when the CEO of Waffle House happened to walk in and see me," said Arroyo. "Turns out that even though he is from Arizona he is a big Reds fan. So he sent me a box of these t-shirts."
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
Smothered, covered and chunked
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Scattered, covered, and smothered!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ra Ra Ra
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
by Madville on Aug 29, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
HAH! Nicely done, Mads.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 29, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And how can we forget:
RA RA RA
WHO KNOWS THIS RA…?
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
for some reason i'm watching you sing don't stop believing
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
is that what unemployment does to people?
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, it is exactly what unemployment does to people
I think there’s something seriously wrong with me
okay
i’d like Imagine at some point.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
that was just as absurd as i expected it to be.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Where did you take this?
The woman in the back seems not to be paying attention to your outlandishness.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Ah
I was wondering if she was faking the accent.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 29, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
A British guy sitting next to me at McDonald's today
Was quizzing me about where he could find all the various Masonic temples in DC. Apparently there’s one on Embassy Row I don’t know about.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 29, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that's the one where they keep the secret king of America as a prisoner!!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 29, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
this is like the third time ive seen this photo
it’s really disturbing. how did it become a thing?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 29, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the weirdest fucking baseball blog ever.
I am glad I found it…
Watch it, ass blood.
by -ManBearPig on Aug 29, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Amen brother. Between that, cocaine bear, stories of JCH's paternity and, well, Mads
this place is a brilliant online stop for anyone that believes they have (or have been diagnosed) with ADHD.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 30, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of TLR hate going on at VEB
It’s a great read
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Baker "Clutchmanmonie"
by blark0202 on Aug 29, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Fantastic
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
shoot 'em down, turn around
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Extreme small sample size alert!
From McAllister’s blog:
Worried about Rhodes?
“The Reds better hope Arthur Rhodes hasn’t hit the wall”-Jeff Brantley
First 58 appearances: 7 ER and 27 hits in 48 innings
Last 2 appearances: 5 ER and 7 hits in 1.1 innings (2 blown saves)
Imma give Rhodes the benefit of the doubt and expect him to be the guy from the first 58 appearances rather than the last 2.
But Brantley is always right!
Always!
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Moses...
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Lance McAllister is a Grade-A dipshit.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 29, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I can rec this
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
So we're gonna have Arroyo, Bailey and Wood going in the St. Louis series
everyone okay with that? Wood’s control has been all over the place lately.
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
I like Homer
I know Pujols actually respects Homer alot and Homer handles him pretty well (but maybe I’m just selectively remembering and that’s making me forget his bad starts against them).
Homer has looked good since coming back, even in that rocky SF start
He just seems way more confident up there than I can ever remember. Arroyo is Arroyo, which lately has been pretty darn good. I think someone here said that they’re throwing out Westbrook, Carp and Garcia against us, so there’s not a lot of room for error. Westbrook would seemingly be the easiest to get to, but lord knows we have some kind of mental block when we play against the Curds, so who knows. Regardless, we still have to beat the Brewers this week.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Homer dominated the Cards on July 3, 2009.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
But he couldn't dominate David Weathers.
Sigh.
by the finest muffins on Aug 30, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
the only one who be dominating David Weathers is Mrs. Weathers!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Rhodes didn't help that game either
he came into get the left hander out who proceeded Pujols, instead he walked him to load the bases.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
from their May Day game...
Obviously, the biggest at-bat of the game was Homer v. Albert with 2 outs and a runner on in the 7th.
Bailey already had ~115 pitches, but I think the right idea was to keep him in, it would’ve been a huge booster for the Reds for the rest of the season if they could get Pujols right here, and Bailey was having success with him earlier….Alas, it was not to be. Pujols doubles and the Reds can never really battle back fully. I know stats, etc. but it really looked like the Reds had the wind out of their sails from then on out.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
My sources tell me that if Arthur Rhodes runs out of gas, Yoshida is ready.
The Knuckle Princess is also a professional baseball pitcher.
On the job at a style shoot…a versatile woman.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Brewers have been playing pretty well.
We can’t lay down on the job this week.
St. Louie gets Houston, but they’ve been playing ok themselves.
I'm sure you all know me.
Yeah, no let downs
Every game counts.
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
august
reds 17-8
astros 15-12
brewers 13-11
whiny bitches 11-13
cubs 9-18
pirates 7-19
i know i’d rather be playing brewers than astros. esp since astros swept phillies
Nice to see the Reds continue to play strong
years past like 2006, it was just hoping to not suck so much late in the season.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not optimistic about Tuesday
It’s Gallardo against Harang, so even in the unlikely event that we manage to put up four or five on Yo-Yo Ga, we can count on Aaron to give up five or six on a couple of backbreaking homers. I really can’t believe a team with as much quality pitching as this one is going back to the well with Harang yet again. He’s done as a starter. Maybe a move to the pen gives his stuff enough of a boost to be useful again, but the only thing he’s good at in the rotation right now is giving up line drives and homers, and that’s just in AAA. I’m downright scared at what adding him to the rotation for the final month will do to this team.
I would love for Harang to throw rocks for his next 6 starts or whatever
and be a horse in the playoffs. It’s completely rooting from my heart, not my head, but dammit, I want it to happen.
And that said, it worked for Jordan Smith from AA, why not Harang from AAA?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I have no idea what to expect from Harang
he wasn’t terrible in May or June, both months he put up an ERA in the 4s. Still after his great 2005-2007 run that is a disappointment.
If Volquez hadn’t shit the bit over the last few weeks, I would be dead set against this, but Volquez has struggled, Leake is on the DL, would you rather hand these starts to Maloney or LeCure?
I would really like to see Harang find his inner 2007, but i am mostly expecting him to be about league average and pitch 6 innings of 3-5 run baseball in his remaining starts.
Of course he will then go to the Cubs, they will find some flaw in his delivery, and he will win 18 games next year with an ERA of 3.24.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Harang's been a horseshit pitcher for the last three years.
His slider is no longer an out pitch, which lets everybody sit on his mediocre fastball and tee off. He gives up an absolute fuckton of line drives and even more homers, and there has been no sign of that going away while he’s been in AAA. I’d love for him to throw rocks too, but seeing as how that has virtually no chance of happening, I’d prefer it if he were not allowed to come into games and crush the Reds chances of winning by the fourth inning.
How many games has Harang single handily lost this year?
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say he's "single handily" killed the Reds chances of winning in roughly six games this year
How many times this year has Harang actually given a good start?
subjective ratings
Good Stars:
April 10th against the Cubs.
April 27th against Houston.
May 8th against the Cubs.
May 29th, against Houston.
June 9th, against San Francisco.
June 20th, against Seattle.
June 25th, against Cleveland.
June 30th, against Philly.
Bad Starts
April 15th, against Florida.
April 21st, Against LA.
June 15th against LA.
Of course definitions of good and bad differ, but the rest of his starts seem to be some combination of 5-6 innings of work giving up 3-5 runs. Of course I would hate for Geki to allow facts to get in the way of a good rant.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I am of the opinion that going 5-6 innings and giving up 4-5 runs is a bad start, personally.
I also feel that if you put your team in a 3 or 4 run hole against a Chris Carpenter or Adam Wainwright type pitcher, it’s a bad start. And I feel like a pitcher with an ERA over 5.00 that allows opponents to hit .300 with significant power simply isn’t a very good pitcher. Of course I would hate for Justin to allow facts to get in the way of a good sucking off of Aaron Harnann, the CG Machine.
Down thread you said you would rather see; Owings, Juckich, Maloney, and LeCure
You also have said that Harang is incapable of putting together a good start.
Harang was a serviceable slightly below average starting pitcher. It is a miss-match when he faces top tier pitchers.
Honestly I wish Volquez’s first start was a mirage. It would be nice if the Reds didn’t have a whole in their rotation. Harang isn’t the pitcher he was in 2007. I don’t expect him to regain 2007.
And I kind of look at 5-6 innings of 4-5 runs as a gray area, it isn’t good, but it isn’t taking your team out of the game either.
Harang is a huge upgrade compared to the options the Cards have for the 5th spot, and is about even with Westbrook. If Harang is the worse pitcher on a starting staff, that staff is in pretty good shape.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's see then
he’s given up:
four runs three times (one of those games had an unearned that made the run total five, a game that we eventually won)
three runs five times (we’re 2-3 in those games, being shutout once, giving up 11 runs in another, and were beat by one in another)
two runs or less six times (4-2, the two losses coming on a 1-0 shutout and a 4-2 loss)
Now, the games in which he shat the bed we obviously lost, but really, looking at his season stats, I just don’t see how your angst towards Harang makes any sense. He’s been having a decent season thus far.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm done with this argument.
I vehemently disagree that Harang has been anywhere near decent for a while now, but it’s clear that the argument isn’t going anywhere. I find Harang’s performance to be unacceptable and believe we have multiple better options. You and Justin are clearly happy with his contributions to the squad. The rest of the season will show which of us is correct.
Awwww, but debate is fun!
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love for the Reds to have a better 5th starter than Harang
it would have been great if Volquez could have put up numbers similar to what he did in 2008.
it would have been great if Leake didn’t fall of a cliff.
You are clearly wrong that the organization is letting Harang start based on sentiment.
You have failed to make an argument that there is another starter in the organization who could obviously pitch better than Harang.
You fail to recognize that outside of about 3 starts Harang has been decent, while not spectacular this year.
But I bet you are awesome at shouting things really loudly until everybody else in the room covers their ears and walks out.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
HE'S DONE WITH THIS ARGUMENT!
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You would defend Aaron Harang if he ran Joey Votto over with a Hummer.
Pardon me for not finding you to be a particularly unbiased or entertaining individual to argue with on the merits of Mr. Harang’s pitching ability. I feel my case has been made, and if you wish to know why I would rather see one of those minor leaguers, it isn’t because I think they’re particularly good, simply better than the present rendition of Aaron Harang.
If my argument style is shouting real loudly until everybody covers their ears and walks out, your argument style is covering your ears and shouting right back.
No one is shouting here really
and obviously no harm no foul here, we’re all friends arguing about the team we love. I understand your worry about Harang, but I choose to be optimistic about him until he absolutely shows me that he cannot pitch at the major league level (which, to me, he hasn’t yet)
hand shake?
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it is worth
When Volquez was dominating the Minors (minor league stats are a great indicator of an injured pitchers future stats aren’t they?), and Leake was still serviceable, I was for pulling Harang out of the rotation.
My views aren’t set in stone, they change over time.
I am not optimistic that Harang will regain his 2007 form. But I do think of the other options he is the best.
You notice I’m not really pushing hard for Maloney, who i have a crush on too.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and for the record
Here is a link to when I actually called for Harang to be moved to the bullpen.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Matt Maloney
love him, but I would rather go with experience mediocrity than inexperience mediocrity down the stretch.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Harang is washed up.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
Give up, Justin
The fact that Harang is a decent pitcher is lost on some people. His FIP last year was in the three’s and all, but “he’s sucked for the last three years.”
Seems to me, he’s a classic average starter and barely any different from the non-Cueto/non-Arroyo’s the Reds keep running to the hill.
Who is a better option right now? [although after reading your post below, it’s obvious this is an emotional argument for Geki and not a factual/historical one]
I think the main argument against Harang is that he's been god awful in AAA
And we don’t know how much of that is, as Justin says, “getting work in” and how much is “Aaron Harang is done.”
yeah, I'm an agnostic on this one
If we had a clearly better alternative, I would be upset at Harang starting. But we don’t, and I think that’s the only reason he’s being activated.
OTOH, I’d be willing to take a shot on one of the AAA pitchers, too. I don’t think they’re clearly worse.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I guess I'm not much more worried about this than Volquez's starts
But Harang doesn’t have Voltron’s stuff, and is thus even more of a liability if he can’t locate.
if the reds were out of it
i would want one of the AAA guys. See what Maloney or LeCure can do.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
At worst, consider it throwing the game.
Let Harang eat some innings for you against the only good Milwaukee starter, saving your bullets for the more winnable games.
Series wins do count, right?
You don't throw games or save bullets when you're in a tight division race trying to make the playoffs and it's September.
The Reds are letting Harang start out of sentiment and I absolutely cannot stand that. Sentiment is a big part of why this team hasn’t won a goddamn thing in 15 years. I love Aaron for what he did for the Reds in the middle part of the decade; I don’t want to hate him for blowing the Reds shot at the playoffs because management was too pussified to make the call to keep him from pitching any significant innings the rest of the year.
And yet there are more than 30 games left in the season!
More than enough time for Aaron Harang to get six starts and lose all of them!
Who else do you start?
Volquez has shit the bed. Volquez has lost more games by his own hands in less starts than Harang has this season. (When i say lose, games i don’t mean taking the L, i mean being bombed out so badly the team has little chance of recovering) Leake is DL’d. You can’t say you feel heads and tails better about Volquez.
Arroyo, Cueto, Wood, Bailey, ?
Volquez pitched his way out of the rotation. Period, end of story. Chapman isn’t stretched out for the starting role, and we can all agree that LeCure and Maloney aren’t exactly aces either.
I’m guessing if Volquez didn’t shit the bed, or if Leake didn’t run out of gas Harang would be in the bullpen on September 1. I find your letting him pitch out of sentiment argument to be horseshit.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that being said, I like Voqluez for 2011
but it takes time to return from TJ surgery.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I challenge you.....to a duel!
/slaps in the face with a glove
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Volquez than Harang.
At least he has the upside of a strong outing. A good outing for Harang is one that doesn’t involve him giving up 10 hits and 3 homers.
Ummm...Harang actually hasn't pitched too badly this year
He’s really only had three God awful starts, every other start he’s gone at least six and given up at most 4 earned runs. His got a 2 to 1 strikeout to walk ratio and though his whip isn’t that great, he’s been giving us chances to win and stopping the runners he lets on base from scoring. You’re argument seems to be based off of his shitty AAA outings during his rehab, which, though worrisome, does not show the entire picture.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and two of those three horrible starts were in April
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not my argument at all.
Harang has been incredibly hittable and incredibly homerun prone since 2008. He’s also been completely unproductive on the field. I’ve heard about his FIP, his xFIP, his BABIP, his poor run support, his tough opposition, his high workloads, his K/BB ratios, his ability to eat innings, his bad luck, and just about any other excuse you wanna throw out there. And you know what? I just don’t believe any of it anymore. The reason Aaron Harang has lost so many games the past several years is because he hasn’t been a good pitcher. The reason he hasn’t been a good pitcher is because he no longer has strikeout stuff but he continues to pound the zone with his now mediocre stuff anyways, which lets every opponent just crush him. He’s been trending this way for three years, the stats show that, and yet he still gets endlessly defended by some people. I used to be one of those people, but I’ve moved on. He’s not getting it back. Aaron Harang is not going to be a productive MLB starter unless he completely makes over his pitching style. His AAA outings indicate that this has not taken place, thus my confidence in Aaron Harang’s ability to get big league hitters out remains nonexistent.
yeah, but he's only been "really crushed" three times this year
I don’t doubt that he’s lost a few steps since 2007, but I don’t really think Maloney or LeCure are marked improvements over him.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like they have a ton of choices here
Letting Harang start enables us to have Homer and Arroyo go against the Cards, perhaps instead of sentiment it’s….dare I say….strategy?
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Maloney, LeCure, Horst, Jukich, Klinker, Owings...shit, probably the AA rotation too.
I would rather see any of them over Harang. If it’s strategy, it’s bad strategy.
you would seriously rather see Owings shitshow than Harang's mediocrity?
Owings is god-awful.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, out of all those guys Maloney and LeCure seem to be the only ones...
I would feel comfortable having on the mound, but they’re not exactly lights out pitchers either, and LeCure needs to be a long man for us right now, so he’s out.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confident they'll both get hammered in the majors.
Owings might at least knock in a few runs, and when he does get hammered I can at least count on him not making the playoff roster and not having his own personal defense league excusing his inability to pitch competently.
you are moving the goal posts Geki
You have made no argument that states that LeCure, Owings, Maloney, Juckich, and any of the other scrubs the Reds have sitting around are a marketable upgrade from Harang.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll make it for him.
Harang gives you mediocrity on a good day. Maloney can give you better than that on a good day. That’s enough for me.
by Brian B on Aug 30, 2010 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no, he doesn't
Maloney, sorry, Justin, is fit for the 2004 rotation. he might give Jimmy Haynes a run for his money, but he just does not have the stuff to compete well at the MLB level.
Hey, Brian, now that I disagreed with you, what sort of law do you practice? Mine is disability law.
this is seriously the dumbest comment ever
and I generally respect Geki’s opinions and analysis, but, come on, this is counter-factual
This is seriously the most hyperbolic comment ever.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.
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by Slyde on Aug 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Magic number of 29!
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No offense
but magic number talk before you get to 10 is lame.
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Jeez, slyde,
were you molested by a fortune cookie as a child or something?
by Gapper on Aug 29, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is what happens when you have a year of increasing fame:
Head Sabredude at RR, Then he becomes the Darling of the Red’s Fantasy Camp,next he becomes a world renowned best selling author…and now a highly retarded regarded on line pundit…but Go Slyde..you’re my favorite Slyde!!!
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
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by Gapper on Aug 29, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Nah
I just think the number 29 isn’t all that small. Still a lot of baseball to be played.
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but it is the distant light at the end of a 15 year tunnel.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure
but to me, quoting the magic number is like saying, “we’re almost there” or “this bitch is ours” and it is far from true. Maybe I’m a curmudgeon, but it just seems premature to me to be counting down the magic number.
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there is no maybe
you are a curmudgeon.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I'll be honest
part of my disdain for the countdown is because Lance McAlister is doing it now. He’s on my shitlist lately.
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for me, it is a measuring stick
i find things easier to handle if I can measure them.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
this made me laugh
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably.
But when we’re used to the magic number being 162, 29 sounds pretty good.
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by Thundering Turtle on Aug 29, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only funny line in the history of this
show.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 29, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
plus, magic numbers are incorrect.
They don’t take account of the fact that our wins and their losses are not uncorrelated; furthermore, the wins and losses of everyone else are correlated too, since there’s a winner and loser from each game.
Fortunately, the guys at Cal have done the math, and calculate the Real Magic Number every day.
It’s very rarely different from the common magic number by more than about 1, but allows you to act all sabersuperior.
As of today, if we get all the breaks, we could lose the rest and still take the division. If we get none of the breaks, we have to win 30 of 33.
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I seriously thought this wa sa Gray comment
stupid intellectuals and their “facts” and “research”
They take all the fun out of rooting for a magic number that is bigger than justin’s age and my IQ!
Cal?
Fuck those hippies.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 30, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
It didn't stop you from either knowing what it was or correcting me at the game.
NERD!
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cuz I had just read it on Twitter
and I have a nasty habit of always being right.
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You have just disproven your own theory
Consider your mind blown.
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Being a fan should be fun
And counting down the magic number is fun.
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 29, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Slyde is a serious issue seriously.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he's borderline liability, at this point.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on.
Ruiz was a loose cannon. He played it fast and he played it loose, and in the end he got burned.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 29, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you better believe
Sterling Mallory Archer always gets a rec from me
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by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 30, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
how=show
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by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 30, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but when the magic number is 160, it's not fun.
What Slyde is trying to say is that you shouldn’t be having fun yet. FUN IS FOR LATER. EAT YOUR VEGETABLES.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.
If you don't eat your meat
You can’t have any pudding!
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 29, 2010 8:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Be careful using the B word, Gray might delete your comment.
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goddamnit
why does the World Series start so fucking late, I hate MLB.
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so that is why the first game of the World Series is played on October 27th?
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not going to lie
your explanation makes no sense what so ever.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
now i get it.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, Bud Selig, for the birthday present!
Who’s buying me WS tickets for my birthday?
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The NL did win
so it could be in Cincinnati.
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by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
What?!
I thought the whole point of elminating the off days during the playoffs was to keep the World series from spilling over into November. Are you sure you got your dates right?
by Brian B on Aug 30, 2010 9:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope, he has the date
right. Games 1 and 2 October 27 and 28, 3-5 October 30-November 1, and 6 and 7 November 3 and 4.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
The dates are tentative
and might be changed.
But I think eliminating the off days was more to keep teams from doing what the Yankees did (going with only three starters) than to keep the games out of November.
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Wait, how could they change them?
I would assume that the broadcasters would never want to change the dates. So what makes them tentative?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I dunno
But Wikipedia says the dates are tentative, and MLB.com lists them as TBA on another page.
The dates change anyway (in case of rainout), so it’s not like it’s a big deal, like changing the date of the Super Bowl.
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however
It does look like there was no effort to try and shorten the postseason:
The awkward off-day between Games 4 and 5 of the league championship series, among those Los Angeles Angels manager Mike Scioscia griped about last October, will be eliminated. Instead, there will be yet another off-day between the division series and the start of the LCS, the commissioner’s office said Wednesday.
The overall length of the postseason will not be shortened and the first round will remain best-of-five at least through 2011.
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Yeah, this is what I noticed when I looked up the dates
they have a lot of time off before the series to set up the nights they want
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
god
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by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Brian, look at the bright side
You can celebrate your team winning a World Series game and your political team winning back the House.
Glass half full
Besides, as any farmer can tell you, the beginning of November is warmer than early April. Trust me, we used to play softball in November and it was no where as cold as when we playing in April…
not conterfactual,
just afactual
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by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
weather
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll try to look it up
Monthly averages
April 66°F 43°F 55°F
November 54°F 37°F 45°F
Still, if you look at the daily readings for 4/1 – 4/10 and 11/1 to 11/10, you find
Date April Mean April Low November Mean November Low
1 50 39 51 41
2 50 39 50 41
3 50 40 50 41
4 51 40 49 41
5 51 40 49 40
6 51 40 49 40
7 52 41 48 40
8 52 41 48 39
See, there ain’t much difference between playing in early April and playing in early November, which means, to me, if you’re going to play a 162 schedule with three rounds of playoffs, then you have to play in early November. The only way to limit the WS is to play a 154 game schedule, IMHO
PS the source was my boredom and the Weather Channel
Because the extra round of playoffs makes money
If MLB thought they could start the World Series on Christmas Day and still make $1.50 more, they would so do it
ugh
Manager Tony La Russa told Cardinals writers that St. Louis will activate Jeff Suppan from the disabled list Sept. 1 to start the series finale against the Houston Astros. The move allows Jaime Garcia to start the Sept. 3 series opener against the Reds, followed by Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright.
from teh fya
i love anything that gets Jeff Suppan an extra start.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
the Reds/Cards series is the Cards last hope
I think the pressure is on them to sweep.
Even if we lose one game in the standings, and they simply take 2/3 we still leave with a 3 game lead.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
no
the 5-game lead the Reds built up after the last series will actually be a 10-game one after the next series. :-)
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if that would happen i would be soooooooooooo happy.
would it be weird if i cry on clinching day.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
then can we please start counting down the magic number?
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
by joshuar9476 on Aug 29, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i would like to see this as well.
jch had it on facebook a few days ago. he may be keeping track.
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I'm hoping we roll into this series with a better attitude
The pressure is solely on their shoulders to not just win the series, but sweep. We gotta take care of the Brewers at home first, though, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with all of that
dusty has done a good job of focusing on the task at hand.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He really has
I know he catches a lot of shit from us at times, but he’s really pulled these players together and kept them focused. I mean, there have been so many moments (Stl sweep being the most recent) that I’ve thought to myself, “well fuck, we’re doomed” only to have these Reds bounce back and kick ass. They may be young, but they have veteran level fight in them, and that’s what I love. I mean, this has maybe been one of the most memorable seasons by them in my lifetime. It’s special.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They always get up off the mat.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
like a pre-schooler after nap time
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just glad
he’s better at managing young arms better than Jim Riggleman…that short-term viewed ass hat.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
VEB wants to interview Riggleman if TLR retires...
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
do you think they mismanaged Strasburg?
souldrummer probably has views, but it seems like maybe they did. Then again, it might have been inevitable. It’s just a really unfortunate situation.
I don't see how you could say they mismanaged him.
They seemed to be doing about all they could do to watch him. What more could they have done?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
sarcasm, folks!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I was half-thinking that
but then I thought maybe you were serious because some have been criticizing the way the Nats handled it. I guess Dusty got all the blame for tragedies with pitching in Chicago too so it is kind of absurd at some point
I'm aware that you were being sarcastic
but I didn’t think RP was. And yeah, some idiots have been saying that. I just don’t get it.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
did you just call Red Poodle an idiot.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
he better not have
unless he wants a snapping turtle in his beer! (my new untested method of getting even lol).
Heh.
No, I didn’t. I just thought you were asking why people were saying the Nationals might have mismanaged him, and I don’t get that at all.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
yeah that was mainly why I asked
because I heard some hinting at it on teh radio, but they hint at absurd stuff all the time. I doubt there was much any of them could have done. However, as I mentioned below,I do think they prohbably should have shut him down after the first DL trip.
\the only thinkg I was thinking of
is that they should have shut him down after the first DL trip, but maybe the tear was there the whole time. That is the impression I got form hearing about it onm 700 the other night.
but if the tear was there
it was going to happen.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like Liriano in 2006
It is best that he tore it and has the surgery, rather than the team dick around with it for the rest of the season, try to rehab it, and he tears it next spring, and delays the surgery for 6-8 months while not proving any serious contributions.
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to say how much pressure Riggleman was getting from the Nats organization
to keep him in the rotation, though I don’t get the feeling that they overused him at all. I think his delivery was just that dangerous and resulted in his injury. It’s what makes me worry about Chapman throwing 105.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
they way i understand it, which could be completely wrong,
is that the point in time that creates so much torque on the elbow is when the arm is straightened out right before the release of the ball. if memory serves me correct, which it could be completely wrong in this also, stasburg’s delivery is more of an overhand arm action, whereas Chapman’s is closer to a sidearm action, and therefore results in less stress on the elbow.
by no means do i have any credibility with what i just said, but i think it makes sense.
constructive criticism is welcome if i am wrong.
Al Leiter
and Ozzie Guillen reportedly both said they thought his mechanics were bad and he was headed for injury. Before he got hurt.
Leiter said they had a choice of fixing his mechanics and losing some of his velocity, or leaving him alone and hoping he lasted awhile before breaking down. They chose the latter.
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I remember Bobby Valentine
being concerned too. He was strongly against Strasburg getting on the All-Star team and thought he needed rest. He didnt’ say anythign as insightful as Guillen and Leiter, however.
Lots and lots of scouts had serious questions about his mechanics
it was actually a really controversial subject before the draft. Some insisted he was fine, others insisted he was TJ surgery waiting to happen.
Guess we know who was right.
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have those kinds of concerns
been raised with respect to Chapman? I know some are qorried about him now, but maybe he doesn’t have the same kind of problem mechanically
Chapman is a god
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by Dave from Louisville on Aug 29, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think there are always concerns when a guy throws that hard
but mechanically he’s much cleaner, and Kremcheck said his arm and elbow were “pristine”, so I’d say there’s much less concern there.
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how much of a science is that?
Plenty of guys with “good mechanics” get TJ surgery.
Remember when Prior was a prime example of how to avoid injuries?
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by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No one said it was a science
but there are red flags (some of which weren’t known when Prior was a prospect)
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I wonder
if they’ll take this opportunity to fix his mechanics.
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I remember reading an article on the SB site "Driveline Mechanics"
during the draft last year. They specifically noted that he forms the infamous “inverted W” (if you follow the shape of his arms through his shoulders in mid-delivery) which places loads on the shoulder blades; hence, they (and I) thought he was headed for a shoulder explosion, just like Prior.
definitely a good argument
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by nycredsfan on Aug 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Definitely
I can’t believe Dusty managed Marcus Giles onto Prior’s shoulder and THEN managed that line drive into his elbow. Dusty’s a dick.
or he's really good
he manipulated everything perfectly to make Hawpe line that into Prior’s arm.
In all seriousness, it’s a shame what happend to Prior but the guy had terrible luck and was injury prone before that
and what Dusty did with Prior wasn't out of line for that time
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by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Isnt that was Boras called it?
Or was is “squiggly w?”
by Brian B on Aug 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no, I don't.
Just like I don’t think Dusty is to blame for Prior…
that was just a veiled attempt at vindicating Dusty’s predetermined stigma.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The attitute should certainly be better.
Firstly, because the past several weeks are proof that you can fail miserably and be swept…and then go on to expand the division lead again. 162 games – no 3 game series is the end of the world.
Also, there is a good chance the Reds will go into the game with a lead that can’t be lost even by a sweep.
All the pressure is on the cards.
if the Reds go in with a 5 game lead
the Cards pretty much have to sweep.
They are running out of time.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we stop acting like 5 games is an untouchable lead?
Seriously, ask the Mets about that. I do not like the excessive cockiness the five game lead has instilled in Red Reporter and I kindly ask everyone to stop lest karma bitch slap our faces and shatter our souls.
by Geki on Aug 29, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
5 games is touchable
but it is comfortable.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Geki is correct
With the recent meltdowns of the Mets/whoever was in the division with the Rockies in ‘07, I’m not going to be comfortable until our boys are popping champagne in the locker room.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Aug 29, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yep IU am not clamign down until the champagne is flowing
howrever, I do trust the team to get back up after a gut punch (even 3-4 gut punches in a row like in Philadehlpia), I just don’t get really confident about leads.
I refuse to ask the Mets about anything, let alone a division lead.
They gave Oliver Perez 3 years and a frigging fortune…they’re not exactly on my reference list for “how to clinch a division.”
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I once asked the Mets for directions
Needless to say, there is no pool on the roof of Citi Field
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
yeah
we just need to keep driving until we win the race and at the end of the seaosn we can see how far in front we were
I'mma green this so everyone reads it
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I'm not arguing with you!
But I haven’t felt cocky at all about this team, though I do trust them to bounce back and win, which is a strange feeling to have after ten straight years of horribleness. I’m worried about every game, every pitch and every at bat.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and the Cardinals are running out of time
they need to do something against the Reds.
If they leave next weekends series down by 4-6 games they are in a lot of trouble. 4-6 games can be made up in one month, but it isn’t easy.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
But they are a veteran team
and may show that in September. All it means is that we have to keep going one game at a time.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure we've made "up" 6 games on the Cards in the last month.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly, this Brewers series is just as vital as the one against St. Louis
and the one against the Rockies…and the one against the Padres, I mean, we are in no way out of any woods yet.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
It’s been 15 years since the Reds have made the playoffs and a decade since they’ve had a winning season. I don’t think it’s out of line at all for fans to be happy about the current standings and optimistic about the teams chances of making the postseason. I also don’t believe I’ve seen anyone proclaiming that we’ve sewed up the division or a berth in the playoffs yet. Of course I could be wrong in that regard as I don’t always read through the ginormous threads that we often see around here.
What you, I or any other poster on this site writes has absolutely nothing to do with how the Reds players perform on the field. I just don’t buy into the superstitions that some ascribe to when it comes to the type of karma that you are alluding to. I firmly believe the players will ultimately determine whether or not they make it to the post season this year no matter what we may think or write.
There are quite a few reasons for the optimism running rampant around here. Why not enjoy this unexpected (at least by me) run instead of glumly sitting around waiting for the worst. After a solid decade of nothing but consistent losing shouldn’t we try to enjoy this to the fullest?
by King Coebra on Aug 30, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
What?
Fairly new around here. If it’s an inside joke I’m not getting it.
by King Coebra on Aug 30, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Geki hates optimism
and Aaron Harang
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 30, 2010 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
81% chance of winning the division, 89% chance of going to the playoffs.
I have plenty of reason to feel confident.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree
I’m not going to be completely comfortable with a 5 game lead until there is only four games left. However, I’m going to thoroughly enjoy first place too.
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Aug 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless my math is wrong, we are only a 1.5 games worse than San Diego
I would love to not only take the division, but to be the best team in the NL.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
It is a real shame we have 9 games against Milwuakee
The Brewers are 8 back of the Cardinals, and I wouldn’t mind seeing them overtaking second place, but the Reds still need wins.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right
Cincy is tied with the Braves for second in the NL 1.5 games back of SD. Even better is the fact that SD still has 26 games against teams that are .500+, ATL has 23, PHI has 23, SF has 19, STL 16 and the Reds only 10. CIN has a legit shot of taking the top seed into the postseason.
A .600 winning percentage would be awesome too.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I might cry
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I will weep happy tears
only thing that would make me more happily tearful is if Mike Brown vanished into the Bermuda Triangle.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 29, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that means he'd have to pay for a vaction to get there
and we all know that ain’t gonna happen.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we could take up a collection?
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 29, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
We could use the twenty mil we're not going to pay Antonio Bryant
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus, just saw an an ESPN piece
in which Bobby Valentine equated a Mike Piazza homerun in 2001 to being the point when New Yorkers began healing after the 9/11 attacks. I’m sorry, what?
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions
/facepalm
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't doubt it either
as a resident of NYC, I am all too aware of the NY sports fan’s ego.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
But I like the stairs!
Oh fatty McGee, you’re the fattest.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to say which is worse, The Emmys
or Baseball Tonight
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
but
They did show Aroldis Chapman and his 105 mph pitch.
Then had a lame discussion about whether or not big league hitters could hit it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You're telling me that Nomar and John Kruk have no personality?
poppycock!
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
poppycock, huh?
ravenriley’d!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This reminds me of the time I googled Raven Riley at work
because I had no clue who she was. I almost broke my computer trying to close down the window.
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And now you know.
And knowing is half the battle.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
G.I. JOOOEEEEE
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to think
that they said “winning is half the battle” at the end of GI Joe. I always misquoted that to my brothers when we were kids lol
Losing is the other half. It makes sense!
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.
by andromache on Aug 29, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just DVR and FF>> to stuff about our division
@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Aug 29, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
so you FF to the final 2 minutes of the show
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking about the Cardinals recent problems
and I really think alot of it might have to do with Rasmus not starting. I think he hasn’t started since Aug. 15th. Hopefully, we won’t have any trouble dealing with him—I’m sure he’ll be back by the series this coming weekend.
wanted to add that at VEB
they have some interesting stuff about a possible feud between TLR and Rasmus. That guy is a poison it seems because he drives out great players like Rolen. I really can’t imagine why he would be fighting with Rasmus but I don’t watch all the Cardinals games.
Cardinals problems come from the fact that, on any give night, any of the following might be in their starting lineup:
Aaron Miles
Pedro Feliz
Brendan Ryan
Yadier Molina
Skip Schumaker
That is an awful lot of offensive suck to have on one team.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Feliz has actually been good since joining their team
But it’s hard to say how long that will last
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a feeling that would happen
I just knew he would succeed after all the trash talk we and VEB were giving him
they should have picked up EdE
I’m serious. Encarnacion was very available and there is no way he is worse than Feliz.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
was good
He was good defensively, but I thought the consensus was that he’s lost a step.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Feliz is more sound defensively than EdE
and regardless, he’s on the DL now, so it’s doesn’t matter anyways
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they're really missing the cheese guy
Even when he has played, he hasn’t been all that good because he’s injured.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Yeah, I mean Brendan Ryan, Molina and SkippyDippy have had really bad years so far
that combined with Colby Rasmus’ shitty production of late and the loss of Ludwick have put a whole lotta offensive pressure on Holliday and Pujols
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus is OPSing over .800
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
.853 actually
i’ll take an .853 ops especially from a CF with above average defense.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
can we send them a gritty Johnny Gomes
and put Colby in left?
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
toomanycardinalsonourteamalready'd
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
you make a good point
but I wouldn’t turn away Rasmus just because of the nicknames we could give him.
Though I think it would upset that Rasmus girl too much who made that “Fire Burning in the Outfield” video.
I meant recently
Since the sweep.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
their year now really reminds me of the 2006 Reds
where it just seems like the smoke and mirrors start to fade in September. That said, I hope they won’t remind me of the 2006 Cardinals.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
the 2006 Reds were clearly a sham
we knew it, but we didn’t believe it.
The team had two nails starters in Harang and Arroyo, and a serviceable Eric Milton, and some luck with Ramirez for a while, and a servicable Kyle Lohse for the final two months. But Weathers was the only dependable relief pitcher, and there was no starting pitching depth.
Compare the starting pitchers on that team to the 2010 team.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget Randy Winn
Watch it, ass blood.
by -ManBearPig on Aug 29, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sickels
reviews his Reds prospects predictions. He really likes Maloney.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I can punch this kid, right?
Hi Professor XXXXXX, my name is XXXXXXXXXX. and im a student in your tuesday/thursday intro to microeconomics class. I have a problem. I understand that we have an asignment due tommorow but i made a mistake and bought “Foundations of Microeconomics” instead of “Principles of Microeconomics with Connect”. I dont want to get a failing grade because i made a mistake and bought the wrong book.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I want to be fair to students and cut lots of breaks
but they have to look at the syllabus and the required texts it’s not that difficult.
seriously?
At half the bookstores at colleges, you hand your syllabus to someone who works there and they fill your basket full of a thousand dollars worth of books you can’t re-sell that rarely get more than half-used.
How do you know that’s not what happened?
Yikes, I’m glad I’m not back in school anymore.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The student definitely would have blamed the bookstore if he had any reason to.
You can be sure of that. At any rate, he’s had a week to figure out that he has the wrong book. I imagine that he would have noticed if he had come to class.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I'd have dropped your class.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
When I didn't get an email back from my teacher.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I e-mailed him back within five minutes.
I said something to the effect of “it’s your responsibility to buy the book listed in the syllabus. Luckily, the bookstore still has copies so you can buy it tomorrow.”
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Ohhh, OK then. That's fair.
When you said “deleting the dumbass” I thought you meant you just deleted his email.
I’m not doubting his his ass for not getting the right book, but I am saying there are many bigger mistakes students can make. What level class is this anyway? Is this an upperclassman?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you go to a week's worth of classes and not notice that everyone else
has a different book than you?
/mind is boggled
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he just sent me an e-mail to let me know that
(a) he’s an idiot, and (b) he hasn’t come to class all week.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Well then..
mission accomplished my good man
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
missing the first week of class takes balls
I’m lazy and I still never did that. hell, the potheads I was friends went for the first three weeks, skipped the middle weeks and showed up for the last two weeks
The sad thing
is that he didn’t even bother to show up or read the syllabus and learn that I take attendance.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
does attendance directly effect their grade
or do you just use it when they are idiotic to say, well perhaps you would have passed if you showed up to class more than 5 times.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Nightmares
I still have nightmares that I am taking a class in college, somehow forgot to show up all quarter, and have to pass/make up classes otherwise I will not receive my degree.
I graduated college ten years ago with not perfect attendance, but it was never an issue.
me, too
I read a study where Harvard graduates in their 80s, who had been out of school for 60 years, still had those nightmares.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
i have never had that dream
perhaps since I usually am stressed out by school in my conscience thought, there is no need to dream about it.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to ask you
Did you find it a trifle unneccessary to show the Indian’s buttcrack?
by Brendanukkah on Aug 30, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You are way off the mark, buddy
Anybody else know what I was going for? Bonus points would be involved.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine are similar to those.
Like… I’m walking down a street in my parents’ neighborhood when suddenly I realize it’s the first day of school, I haven’t done any of my summer work, and I don’t have any means of transportation. Being late or unprepared for class are my versions of the “show up somewhere without any pants on” dreams. (Though I occasionally have that version, too.) It’s weird, though, because I was rarely if ever late or unprepared when I was actually in school.
by the finest muffins on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
a masters degree
my dreams tend to be weirder for insecurity.
I dreamed once I was in a foreign country, but had no money to get home, and I didn’t know how I could afford a plane ticket state side.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhere, chesirecat just called you a pussy
by Brendanukkah on Aug 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
that’s my second-favorite RR story.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and doesn't he have a friend in the class?
And access to a photocopier?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The reason he's at all worried
is that the homework is done through an online system (Connect) which comes with the book. So he will have to buy it, register it, and complete the homework by tomorrow night. Apparently he has completed none of these steps.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
he has 24 hours to do this?
that sounds reasonable.
There comes a time in life where you do things to make up for your mistakes.
A couple of times last year I woke up at 6AM so I could get to Northwestern’s library in time to check out a book and read it before class.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Chances of him actually submitting the homework by 11 PM?
Probably around 10%.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
So you're saying there's a chance!
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by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 29, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
so
No buying used textbooks?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Nope.
It sucks, but this is the only way to do homework in this huge class. The textbook publishers have figured this out, and now most of the value of the book is tied up in the homework access. Book + Connect ends up being about $100, basically none of which they can get back.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
That's really fucked up.
You don’t have a university wide system like Blackboard or Angel?
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.
We do, but
(a) you can’t do graphing-type questions with Blackboard,
(b) I’d have to write all of the MC questions or at least go through all of the trouble of pulling them into Blackboard, and
© basically every intro econ textbook does this now anyway.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
wait, so the econ textbook manufacturers
have effectively erected barriers to entry, to prevent their oligopoly from being undermined by open source solutions?
Sounds like a market failure to me. :)
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
nice thing about history
most history books have a few people outside of academia who want to buy them. So they are a bit more competitively priced.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
balancing your book budget on the backs of the poor!
see, historians ARE all communists!
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
you can thank me later
Once the beer and co-eds are no longer around, history books are easier to read than they were when I was 20
holy crap
That really sucks.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
One of the other instructors has a $160 textbook which isn't available used
so I don’t feel so bad about mine.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
when is textbook cost going to just roll into tuition?
Its a ridiculous hidden cost, especially with the abusurd resale values.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think texts are getting absurdly priced (for the most part)
which is why I and many of my profs use online scanned articles. However, that is not an option for a lot of people. I work in philosophy which is mainly article based so it’s not always necessary to order an expensive text. Usually only logic classes need textbooks like the one Gray’s describing so we are lucky that we don’t always have to assign really expensive books.
I totally understand the costs of textbooks,
the problem I have is the complete lack of market flexibility for resale. I’ve got no problem paying $150 for a textbook if I know I can (and will) use it, and can sell it back for more than the $30 bucks I know I’ll receive.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I still just think it is a burdensome price at some point
I’ve had books (for biolgoy) that were running $200+. I don’t mind paying money for a book, and I know printing isn’t cheap especially with a lot of photos,but there has to be quite abit of mark up there. Well we can make it back on the student elctronics prices!
Chuck Scrabbles is the expert on this
But I know the textbook system is a pretty big racket, and many books cost many times what they cost to produce
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 29, 2010 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have a childhood friend who is a law school professor in Cincinnati
He told me the textbook he helped write is too expensive for him to buy.
i dont think im an expert
but i do work in the biz. most of what has been said here is dead on. some years ago, we text book retailers realized we could make some profit and lower overall costs for students by creating a used book market. this made students relatively happy and us retailers were glad to add some profit on the resale of that book, but it infuriated the text book publishers.
so they responded by jacking up initial costs. a book that cost $40 new twenty years ago will now cost you $150. they lost tons of sales because of the used text book market, so they had to recoup that somewhere. they also began shortening the lifespan of the book by constantly publishing new editions. if they release a 2nd edition of a book with “new updated materials”, it will be obsolete within 3 years. they will start putting together a 3rd edition before the 2nd even hits the shelves.
they’ve also started doing the kind of stuff Gray was talking about, adding in “one use only” materials to suppress it’s resale value. in these cases, the book itself usually isnt worth shit, but they can add a CD or an access code and sell it for $150.
as for text books being part of tuition, it’s already happening. the future of ebooks is now, and they are quickly making paper text books a thing of the past. most of the classes at the school where i work use ebooks that are rolled into tuition as a “lab fee”. of course, students still gripe about that because this generation still hates using ebooks. everyone wants to be able to hold a paper copy of the book, but the school doesnt give them a choice.
so i guess what im trying to say is dont get mad at your local bookstore manager. it aint my fault.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 30, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm glad i'm a historian
i don’t feel like my books are terribly expensive. As an undergrad I could spend under $100 many quarters.
The only reason I spend a lot of money on books as a grad student is the share volume of books, most semesters I have 2 or 3 classes, which require a book a week for 13 weeks, so 26-39 books gets expensive.
I’m not buying many books this term, because I’m taking classes for my minor field, so I have little long term interest in the books I’ll be reading, since they won’t come in handy for my thesis or my field exam. So I spend a few hours a day reading books on course reserve from the library, or I get them through interlibrary loan or from Northwestern’s library.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
why can't the unviersity give some poor MA a TAship to grade things?
In my intro stats class, the section only had 40 people but their was a student grader.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the graders' comments
would be crude, but hilarious.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Does the online system make your job as a prof a whole lot easier?
Because, from the student’s perspective, fuck do those classes suck big hairy monkey balls.
maybe if he analyzes the secondary market
for Connect connections, and writes a two page article on price elasticity of said connections, you could let him off the hook this one time.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Here's your email back.
Tough shit.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Aug 29, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Though, mine would have included “fuck tard” after the “Tough shit.”
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
this is why
my sister gave up a tenured position and left academia.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
how does one buy the wrong book?
once I bought an old edition of a book, and it wasn’t compatible, but the library had the current edition on reserve so it didn’t matter. I was able to do the home work using the current edition, and used the old edition for studying.
I’ve done a lot of stupid things as a student. I will probably be some what lenient if I teach because I know what I am capable of fucking up, but getting a book is pretty easy.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is one I never expected.
The only thing I can think is that he just wasn’t paying attention in the bookstore, and bought the book for a different section.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Or he's just kind of stupid and lazy and such.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
that's what college is for, duh!!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Or he didn't buy shit
and was making up a bunk ass excuse
by kennythered on Aug 29, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You rang?
My entire college career…summed up in one sentence.
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
I've done it before
I’ve bought the wrong book. I just never told a teacher when I did.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Exactly
If your college was anything like mine, the bookstore is clearly marked so that a monkey could figure out which book to buy. They had cards with the class number, section number and book title and author listed. You would have to be the world’s biggest idiot to buy the wrong book.
I say go ahead and punch him.
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Aug 30, 2010 8:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how can someone who doesn't know their own name make it into college?????
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Aug 30, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This one mentioned his name the way they all seem to.
I don’t get why they think say “My name is John Smith” in the first sentence is better than just signing it John Smith, but they almost never do the latter.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I do what he did
I figure there’s no reason for the professor (or whatever superior) to know my name or who I am, but people always like to know to whom they’re talking to. So I’ll always start my first letter to a professor with a little “My name is Cy Schourek, I am a [year] studying [major].”
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Well, with an e-mail you have both a from: field and a name at the bottom
but I think people say it in the opening because they would do that in a conversation. It just seems unnecessary and awkward in an e-mail. But that’s probably mainly because I wouldn’t think to do it that way.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
the from field is fluky
plus, for whatever reason, my e-mail address makes people misread my name on a consistent basis. I’d rather just come out and say my name so there’s no confusion.
But yeah, not a dealbreaker either way.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree with Gray
it says when you open up the email from Justin007000.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
you can fail him
Professor Gray, I got the answer to numbers 5, 6, 7, 8, 23, and 32-47 inclusive wrong and i just wanted to let you know. I don’t want to get a failing grade because I made mistakes on the test
Perhaps this is elsewhere, but
the Cardinals are doing their best to prove BP right. Everything is personal with that lot.
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Aug 29, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good lord. That's absolutely pathetic.
They seriously do nothing but bitch. They’re a bunch of prima donnas who are focused more on who’s against them than on playing and it’s starting to show. Suck it, bitches.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Their playoff hopes needs one of these:
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
thanks
this photo made me happy.
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He was just trying to ice the rookie closer
I can’t believe the ump didn’t run LaRussa off the field
Aim for the head baby Jesus
even if he ejected Tony
Tony would have stayed out there.
Why don’t umpires have uniformed police officers remove managers from the field?
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 29, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so.
And even if he was, Holliday was bitching about it after the game too. That whole team is ridiculous.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
what happend to the parent post with the Holliday link?
did it disappear? or am I reply failing? Anyway, I was really questioning LaRussa’s motives. I don’t htink he could have thought Storen meant to do that. Why would Storen want to risk blowing a save by putting Holliday on base? He gave up a home run to Feliz right after that and it could have made that a 4-3 game instead of a 4-2 game.
Note to baseball fans...
Carl Crawford is good at beisbol. Signey he we should.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
That's my big offseason wish
Drop Arroyo’s option, sign Carl Crawford and Joey to long deals, and trade some of the AAA talent for a SS.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
buuuuuuut what about soft-J and his .350 OBP and best in class UZR?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 29, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
ctownboy's wet dream1
"@#$%$#@% you joey Votto. gutshot. urgh"-tehzachatak, Viva El Birdo
by justin007000 on Aug 30, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
oh ctownboy, you loveable scamp you
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 30, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I love getting into arguments with dumbass Cardinal fans on facebook.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
tell them that they should really take those games against chi/hou/mil/pitt seriously
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
by joshuar9476 on Aug 29, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
the cards are 5 over .500 in the division. the reds are 14 over.
they’re losing games their record indicates that they should be winning, and we’re winning the games we should be winning.
Watch out Joey
Stubbs has now official entered the triple crown chase.
by LyotardFactory on Aug 29, 2010 11:51 PM EDT reply actions