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If God Is Willing and da Pitching Don't Implode... Reds lose, 11-2.


Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Aubrey Huff.  The ballplayer whose name sounds most like a Brazzers star or perhaps a member of an all-girl pop group went 3-4 with a double, home run and a walk.  He also scored two runs and drove in three.  Honorable mentions go to Pablo Sandoval, Matt Cain, Freddy Sanchez, and Bill Bray.

Key Plays

  • Remember how we probably shouldn't have been counting on Volquez for anything this season as he was recovering from surgery?  Anyway, he walked Andres Torres to start off the first inning, then gave up a single to Buster Posey.  Aubrey Huff then double and drove them both in.  Then Pat Burrell doubled and drove in Huff.  Volquez uncorked a wild pitch and Burrell moved on to third.  But Edinson struck out Jose Guillen!  But Pablo Sandoval singled, and Burrell scored, then Juan Uribe walked.  Freddy Sanchez hit a double, which was enough to drive in Sandoval.  Pitcher Matt Cain grounded out, but Volquez walked Torres again to load the bases.  By this time, Dusty had had enough, and yanked Volquez after 2/3 of an inning.  Jordan Smith came in and struck out Posey.  Giants lead, 5-0.
  • The Reds were in a big hole, particularly with their starter not able to give them anything useful.  But they've made their hay on comebacks, and it looked like they might battle back into the game in the third inning.  With two outs, Laynce Nix reached on an infield single to the first baseman.  Joey Votto then hit a ground rule double to put runners on second and third.  Scott Rolen then hit a blast to center field to score them both.  Giants lead, 5-2.
  • The Giants studied at the Throat-Crushing School of Lead Protection, though.  Freddy Sanchez led of the bottom of the third with a single.  Matt Cain failed in his attempt to advance Sanchez with a bunt, but it didn't matter.  Andres Torres hit a home run, and the Giants lead, 7-2.
  • The Reds couldn't get anything going against Matt Cain for the rest of the game, but Jordan Smith and Bill Bray did a good job of stopping the bleeding after the third inning, as well as sparing some of the bullpen by pitching a combined 6.1 innings.  Logan Ondrusek, who has been excellent this season, experienced a rather dramatic regression in the eighth inning.  Aubrey Huff led off with a home run, and the Giants continued to hit the ball hard.  New Giant and noted Red-killer Cody Ross singled, Nate Schierholtz doubled, and Pablo Sandoval doubled to drive them both in.  A wild pitch put Schierholtz on third, where a groundout by Freddy Sanchez was all that he needed to score.  Giants win, 11-2.

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via www.fangraphs.com


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Other Notes

  • Both Laynce Nix and Jim Edmonds left the game with injuries.  Nix had a sprained left ankle while Edmonds had a right oblique strain, the same injury that has kept Orlando Cabrera from playing the last three weeks.
  • Matt Cain retired the final 14 batters he faced.
  • The five runs the Giants scored in the first inning was the most they'd scored since getting six against the Mets on June 2, 2008.  This was Edinson Volquez's shortest start of his career.

 


 

Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R
Cincinnati Reds 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2
San Francisco Giants 5 0 2 0 0 0 0   4 X 11

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by vottosmash! on Aug 24, 2010 2:14 AM EDT reply actions  

The Reds will win the NL Central by 2.5 games

If you don’t believe me, come look at this comment on Sunday, October 3rd, 2010. And just for shiggles, they;ll do it while going 6-12 against the Cardinals on the year.

"never made a mistake on an appeal. bet on it." -- obc2

by jch24 on Aug 24, 2010 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't believe you

Because they both will play 162 games and will win it by either 2 or 3 games

/smartass’d

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
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by btcoop71 on Aug 24, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they are up by 2 1/2

the cardinals are not likely to make up the game against the marlins that was rained out.

therefore, the reds could win the division by 2.5 games

by 'tHan on Aug 24, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

So yeah, forgot about the rainouts......

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
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by btcoop71 on Aug 24, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Cardinals are already scheduled to make up that game on September 20

and because of it, they will play for 31 straight days. That ought to be fun.

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by Slyde on Aug 24, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Molina will play in how many of those games?

32? 68?

In 2040, as a crippled 58 year old, Molina will still be cursing LaRussa’s treatment of him in 2010

by timb116 on Aug 24, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

him and scott sullivan will cry into their mugs

the mugs they are holding in their left hands

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not listed on the schedule yet

They need to get a waiver if they’re going to play Sept. 20, and I read somewhere that they are leaning toward playing it at the end of the regular season – if necessary.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 24, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

What 'tHan said!

"never made a mistake on an appeal. bet on it." -- obc2

by jch24 on Aug 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was surprised to learn

that this was the shortest outing of a Reds pitcher all season, by far. Next shortest was 2-2/3 innings. I guess in a weird way that attests to the quality of Reds pitching.

That said, it’s pretty clear to me that Volquez was rushed, AAA domination or not.

by OHSnap on Aug 24, 2010 2:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I just realized Omar Infante could scoop the batting title

He’s currently leading but doesn’t have enough ABs to qualify. Infuriating that he almost took Votto’s all-star spot and could possibly screw his triple crown if he gets enough ABs the rest of the season.

by Neuge on Aug 24, 2010 6:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, his BABIP is .393

So it would be fair to expect some regression with that increased playing time, if that comes to pass.

by ThePensive on Aug 24, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

kind of

but not much. when you sting the piss out of the ball every time like Votto does, you are bound to have a higher-than-average BABIP.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Granted.

I just think he’s more likely to have a BABIP more in line with his 2008 one (.328) than the last two seasons. He’ll need to cut his K% down a little bit to maintain such a good batting average going forwards, but his patience and power more than make up for the expected BABIP variance.

I’m a Cardinals fan, of course – but Votto is still one of my favorite players to watch. Almost always puts a good swing on the ball, rarely see him have listless at bats.

by Voxx on Aug 24, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know

his minor league BABIP from A+ through AAA was .340+. i dont know if he can maintain the .360+ he’s done the past few years, but it’s certainly well within the realm of the possible.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor League BABIP is 'always' ~.020 higher than Major League, due to the quality of defense.

So 340+ would mean 320+ at the MLB level, and would fit in nicely with the .328 he put up in 2008, which I suspect is reasonable to expect, given his batted ball profile.

by Voxx on Aug 24, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

granted

but he’s hit so much better in his ML career than he did in the minors (where he was certainly no slouch) that i think it could be sustainable. plus, the difference between a .320 BABIP and a .340 BABIP isnt much to argue over, is it?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 24, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not 'much', no - but it would put his average down from the 'league leading' territory where it is at, now.

Whether it’s accurate or not, people place too much emphasis on batting average, for better or worse. Votto has had a phenomenal season, but talking heads only notice because of the BABIP inflated rate stat. They don’t look at his excellent walk rate, and top notch power.

I guess this is just a long winded way to say LOL BATTING AVERAGE. Or something of that ilk.

by Voxx on Aug 24, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what moves the Reds are making

Ordinarily, a team might let injured players like Nix and Edmonds “sleep on it,” and wait to see how they are in the morning before making a move. But on the left coast, they might not want to wait that long. They are at least calling up a reliever.

Nix thinks he can at least pinch-hit today, and Edmonds says the last time he tweaked his oblique, it only kept him out three days. But having both them of them walking wounded would not be good.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 24, 2010 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

nows a good time to go onto the DL

that way you get playoff roster flexibility.

That said, I’m not sure either are going to be happy to leave at such an important time. And I’m actually shocked that they are viable options.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Aug 24, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I think I'd DL them both

It’s not like they’re key players who can’t be spared for a few games.

The Reds seems reluctant to use the DL, though. I’m really curious about what they’ll do.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 24, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

in fact, better send a Tonya Harding after him

just to make sure he’s injured

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why we got Edmonds

Fay reported that:

Jim Edmonds said his Achilles led to him overcompensating, leading to oblique problem. I wasnt playing that much and it started to feel better, he said. It gave me a false sense of security.

He was up front about these problems before he came (at least a previous story mentioned that). I know Dickerson is injury prone, but at lasst he isn’t 40 with a bad achilles problem.

by Red_Poodle on Aug 24, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if C-Dick burned some bridges

with his whining about not being the starting CFer. Then batting .200.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 24, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't matter

I’m not talking about evaluating him on sabermetrical grounds. I’m talking about how management feels about him, and whether he’s worth putting up with.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 24, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should just retire...

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by GrooveLeg on Aug 24, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Put Springer on the 60 day DL, bring up Wlad

Then look to trade for a LF by the 31st

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 24, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

and of course Edmonds to the 15 day DL

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 24, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Claim Manny off of waivers!

I’m not sure if I’m kidding or not.

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 24, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Aug 24, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of old, broken down sluggers...

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Aug 24, 2010 9:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you're wrong

we should definitely claim Manny if the Dodger waive him

He’s exactly the bat we need in our lineup to compliment The Say Eh Kid

by Highlifeman21 on Aug 24, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me thinks I'm glad I went to bed before the first pitch

last night. Rather depressing to see the results this morning. Oh well, tonight will be better. How could it be any worse?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Howie Feltersnatch on Aug 24, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't read the game threads...

watched the game at a bar. So if this is a repeat, sorry.

Anyhow, did anybody think that Rolen should have gotten to two of those hits in the first three innings? I don’t know if he could have fielded them cleanly, but it looked like he could have at least knocked them down.

by MatthewH on Aug 24, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Not the first one

Burrell smoked it. Rolen didn’t have a prayer; He barely had time to react.

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by ZJiff30 on Aug 24, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not that one...

One was the 7 hopper by the pitcher, and the other was the hit in the 3rd right before the homer.

Could be that on the pitcher one he was moved up to prevent a bunt, I couldn’t tell.

by MatthewH on Aug 24, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to Redleg Nation

to whom I hotlinked. (I’m an asshole)

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by Slyde on Aug 24, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

AHHHHH, jinx

It’s all over now, except for the crying

by timb116 on Aug 24, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that five year old is pretty much fucked.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Aug 24, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Last summer

my dad and I were talking baseball with my uncle from Minnesota. We were comparing our two brilliant young players named Joe. My dad and I were talking up Joey Votto and his awesomeness, but my uncle insisted he wasn’t Joe Mauer quality. “Mauer was on the cover of Sports Illustrated!” he kept reminding us, anecdotally.

What do you say now, Uncle?

by the finest muffins on Aug 24, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

navy blue spikes?

doesn’t go with the rest of the uniform…. goddamn those Canadians don’t know how to dress….

by Highlifeman21 on Aug 24, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think those are navy blue.

They look the same color as his bat, which looks to be black.

by the finest muffins on Aug 24, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's racist!

maybe it’s my screen, but those shoes look navy!

by Highlifeman21 on Aug 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Wladdy will get another shot

Although he’ll be buried behind Gomes and probably never play.

Which begs the question, why not Dorn? They’re trying to replace a guy who was a strict LH platooner, neither guy is on the 40 man, neither can play CF, but Dorn can play 1B too. I really wish this org didn’t hate him

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Aug 24, 2010 9:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Is it just me

or are all the new comments coming is as already read for everyone else

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 24, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

it's all of us

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by ZJiff30 on Aug 24, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

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