Red Reposter - Head West
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 10:40 AM EDT
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PrintRed Reposter is proud to support your local dinosaur catcher. - 2006 - That bitter season. It's difficult to look ahead to this upcoming west coast road trip and not think of 2006. On August 24 that season the Reds embarked on a 10 game jaunt out west tied for the NL Central lead. When they returned to Cincinnati on September 4, they were 6 games back. That disastrous road trip was pretty much the end of the line for that intriguing-yet-fatally-flawed team. Fortunately, this year's vintage is much stronger than that one in a number of ways. To be specific, we now have more than 3 pitchers who can be reasonably relied upon to get an out. Let's hope that's enough to avoid a similar fate.
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So the Reds have a ton of good pitchers now, huh?
Homer Bailey was throwing rocks yesterday, shooting six shutout innings in his first start in over two months. So they keep saying "it's a good problem to have", but it's still a problem that needs solving. I count Johnny Cueto, Edinson Volquez, Bronson Arroyo, Mike Leake, Travis Wood, Homer Bailey, and Aaron Harang as having legitimate claims to rotation spots. I think Harang's claim is the most tenuous, so I think we'll see him in the bullpen down the stretch. That leaves one more name to cut.
Homer threw in the bullpen down in AAA, so I think the Reds are leaning on him going to the 'pen too. With all the extra off days he's had lately, Leake is on pace to finish the year near his innings cap if he remains in the rotation. Thing is though, he hasn't been all that good over the past two months or so. His ERA since June 10 is 5.60. He's averaging fewer than 6 innings a start in that stretch too. I think it's pretty safe to assume that Leake will be going to the bullpen for the post-season, but perhaps he could head there sooner than that in favor Bailey's fresher arm? Of course, this is totally disregarding the issue of who these starters are going to supplant in the bullpen. That's a whole nuther conversation entirely. -
Orlando Cabrera served as a ball boy in yesterday afternoon's game
The rest of the team ridiculed him, saying it was "ball boys", not "ball men". Cabrera was defiant though, that is, until he ran into Monica Seles and cost her a shot at the US Open title. -
Joey Votto got tossed from the game yesterday in the 1st inning because the umpire was a bitch
According to him anyway, that's how it went. -
Chris Heisey took some grounders at 2B yesterday morning before the game
"It's in case of emergency," Heisey said. "I've played shortstop my whole life, and then in college, the second half of my junior year was spent at shortstop. I would not say I'm comfortable in the infield, but I don't feel like a stranger. I trust my hand-eye coordination and reflexes enough to at least knock the ball down and throw it across the infield." With 6 outfielders on the roster and only 1 backup infielder, it's good to know he could cover it in a pinch. Then again, they could just not keep 6 outfielders. I thought we were past this roster redundancy stuff. Laynce Nix I'm looking right at you. -
Top draft pick Yasmani "not as good as Devin Mesoraco" Grandal took a physical on Saturday
Walt says it was just so it was out of the way and wouldn't have to be done last-minute, but it looks like a good sign to me. I don't think either side would agree to a physical if either one wasn't confident in a deal. Jocketty was mum on the idea of Grandal getting a big league deal. "I don't want to comment on that yet. Not until everything is done." If you ask me, I'd say he doesn't get a big league deal. He's a very polished bat and more big league-ready compared to most kids out of the draft, but he's still a catcher. I think it will take him a good while to get used to pro ball and I'd hate to see his options limited because he was on the 40-man prematurely. The deadline is tonight at 11:59, so we shall know very soon.
While Dusty was exiled from the dugout the past two games
he was spinnin' a lot of Van Morrison. Suck on that, Jackson Browne!
At the end of this post is a very good story about Jonny Gomes and Marlins manager Edwin Rodriguez. Gomes said, "He was my first manager and is the best manager I ever had." Rodriguez coached at Class A Princeton in the Rays organization when Gomes was drafted. It's definitely worth the read.
Roster moves
The Reds sent Juan Francisco down to AAA in order to make room for Homer Bailey's triumphant return from the DL. Francisco was understanding of the decision, but that didn't stop him from tearing a few toilets out of the clubhouse stink lodge.
Francisco Cordero wants to make it difficult as possible for you to dislike him
by being as realistic and self-effacing as possible. "I have to stop walking people," Cordero said. "I've got to do that or it's going to be like that every time. I see how upset the fans are with me. I understand that. Every time I walk someone, that guy comes in to score. It's not like I'm giving up a lot of base hits. It's walks. I really don't know what to say about that. It's not my style. It's not me. I've never been like that my whole career. I have to keep working and try to be better every time out." You know, no matter how aware he is of his struggles or determined he is to get better, it doesn't change how tense his 9th innings are. Dude's gotta clean it up. Now.
Ask Hal
Q Is Brandon Phillips a cancer in the Cincinnati Reds clubhouse or what? — Dave, Miamisburg/Centerville/Beavercreek
A With your assessments, the Reds need to hire a team oncologist. You called Barry Larkin a cancer. You called Ken Griffey Jr. a cancer. You called Adam Dunn a cancer. Now Phillips — who isn’t even intestinal flu in the clubhouse. Since when does expressing your First Amendment rights make you a cancer?
Q If the Reds are to make the playoffs they need some more power arms, like Homer Bailey in place of Mike Leake and Aaron Harang when he is ready. Bronson Arroyo as No. 1 in the playoffs means the Reds have no chance. — Mike, Houston
A Compared to Leake, yes, Bailey and Harang throw hard, but they are not ‘power’ pitchers. The only Reds ‘power’ pitcher is Aroldis Chapman and he is being bullpen-broken. Is Cliff Lee a power pitcher? Was Greg Maddux a power pitcher? Power isn’t everything and I’m comfortable with Arroyo starting Game 1 of the playoffs — just to see the Reds in the playoffs.
Troy Renck of the Denver Post is a very good sports writer, being both erudite and objective
To wit: "Let's get this straight: (Chris) Carpenter is a brilliant pitcher. He could have won the Cy Young Award last season. Probably would have, had teammate Adam Wainwright not split the vote. Carpenter, at 13-4 with a 2.95 ERA, could just as easily win this year, though Wainwright is the current favorite. His intensity ranks somewhere between the Ravens' Ray Lewis and the CIA's Jason Bourne. That is admirable. Who wouldn't want a teammate that takes his craft that seriously? The problem isn't the ERA, it's the IQ. He knows everything about everything. Dare I say it — he's become the next Curt Schilling." He then recounts the numerous times Carp has proven himself to be a whiny bitch. I think this is enough red meat for the Reposter for the whole week.
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I remember getting back from a camping trip during that '06 west coast trip
and seeing Elizardo pitching in the bullpen the night before starting. That’s when I knew the Reds had no chance that year.
Meanwhile, it’s nice to see Heisey become the nice, upstanding, Freel.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I was driving back to Ohio the night that West Coast trip started
I was getting in late at night, but that meant the Reds talk was just beginning, and I was able to get WLW on my car radio. They announced it as “The home of the FIRST PLACE Cincinnati Reds,” and I just started going nuts in the car, pounding on the roof. I was so excited! And then they just tanked and never sniffed first again.
Not gonna happen this year. I’m predicting a winning road trip.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
it is okay
the Reds won’t tank, because i’m not leaving the country.
The Reds tanked in 06 when I went to Cuba, and they tanked last year when I went to Europe.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm stealing your passport.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Cuba/d
I'm like a .38 caliber Derringer: absurd but deadly.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 16, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
wait a minute
you were in Cuba?
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Aug 16, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He went for the communism,
but he stayed for the love.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That was right about the time I moved back to Cincinnati from DC.
I’m staying put this year, which obviously equals a winning season for our Reds.
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Elizardo relieved late in an extra inning affair in Philly in 2006
like the 13th or 14th, and then started the next night, only to have our savior Chris Michalak take the hill
God I hated both Ramirez and Michalak
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be shocked if Grandal gets a big league deal
The Reds have enough roster issues as it is, and like you said, even if he is relatively polished, he’s also a catcher, meaning sometime in 2012 is the absolutely earliest he’d see the bigs. That means 2 options automatically wasted by signing him to a big league deal.
I imagine that’s probably not even on the table, but Walt can’t really say that to a reporter.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
What's the advantage for him of getting a big league deal?
Couldn’t you just pay him the same with a minor league deal?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
the bonus wouldn't be affected, but he makes MLB salary if he has a big league deal, plus it tends to get players to the bigs faster, since each year in the minors burns an option
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
which could realistically be all they earn without good, patient, coachind
Sardinha’d
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand why any prospect who isn't a mega prospect like Strasburg would want a Major league deal
Somebody should tell these guys the Willy Mo Pena story, all the raw talent in the world, spent 2 years rotting on a major league bench rather than developing in the minors, because he had a major league contract and was out of options.
If I were a player i’d just want the singing bonus, so my development isn’t messed with.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I've never been in their situation, but I imagine it's the same as everything else in the world, in that's it's all about money
Also, I’d imagine most first round picks are confident enough in their abilities that they think they’ll be in the majors in a year or two anyway.
And WMP didn’t end up sucking because his contract stalled his development. He sucked because he couldn’t hit offspeed pitches and had no plate discipline.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I have to disagree on one of these issues
And WMP didn’t end up sucking because his contract stalled his development. He sucked because he couldn’t hit offspeed pitches and had no plate discipline.
He never got a full season in AAA, but don’t you think a full season in AAA would have helped him figure out how to handle off speed stuff.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps. I went back and looked at his minors career, and he was through AAA and into the majors at age 21
So yeah, a year or two in AAA would’ve helped. But still, in AA at age 20 he walked 36 times and struck out 136. That is a terrible ratio.
But to give you an idea of how bad END is, his ratios are worse for almost his entire career.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
15 Ks to 4 BB in his major league career
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
which is about the same as Willy Mo did in the minors.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
To be fair to Wily Mo
Boone never started him. He’d get into the game as a pinch hitter after sitting all week. Then Boone whined about it. And Marty whined about it. When Pena finally got the chance to start and play on an every day basis, he did fine.
by Brian B on Aug 16, 2010 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wily did more than fine as an everyday starter.
in 2004 as a starter, he OPS’ed .848
in 2005 as a starter, he OPS’ed .790
But when you look at him playing as an EVERYDAY starter, the numbers get even better:
When he was an everyday starter from May 30, 2004 to Aug 21, 2004, he OPS’ed .851.
When he returned (from injury?) that year to start every day again, he OPS’ed .964 over that 11-game period.
He started 7 straight in April 2005, and OPS’ed 1.349.
From Jun 7, 2005 to Jul 5, 2005, starting everyday, he OPS’ed .854.
Unfortunately, he went into a 12-game skid then, OPS’ing .348, relegating him to bench duty until September.
Once he was starting everyday again, he OPS’ed .795 for 9 games before sucking for the final 11 games.
So other than a 12-game and a 9-game slump in Cincy, the guy looked like he had a real future ahead of him. Then he made his biggest contribution to the Reds organization: he was traded for Arroyo.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What organization is he with now?
I didn’t even realize he was still in baseball.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
Wily Mo Pena is Jay Bruce's 2nd most comparable ballplayer age to date!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
by obc2 on Aug 16, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a scary thought, tempered only by the fact that his most comparable is Barry Bonds.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Bonds' plate discipline is incomparable
he had a rough, rough start in MLB then took off like gangbusters.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
through age 22 Bonds and Bruce's numbers are pretty similar
Bonds had a good age 23 year, (Bruce’s current year), regressed a lot at 24, then really broke out at 25.
All the more reason to be patient, people!
Willy Mo never had good OBPs. Bruce is already ahead of him in that area.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
this kinda make me puke, a little
Similar Batters
Bob Thurman (966)
Mike Simms (962)
Elijah Dukes (961)
Jon Nunnally (960)
Damon Hollins (957)
Mike Diaz (951)
Mike Kelly (949)
Ken Hunt (949)
Rick Ankiel (948)
Brant Alyea (946)
Jay’s B-Ref page
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
You missed the more relevant list
Similar Batters through 22
1. Barry Bonds (965)
2. Wily Mo Pena (965)
3. Tom Brunansky (961)
4. Reggie Jackson (958) *
5. Pete Incaviglia (956)
6. Jeff Burroughs (952)
7. Willie Horton (952)
8. Curt Blefary (950)
9. Ruppert Jones (948)
10. Adam Dunn (947)
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Yep. Some pretty decent players on that list.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I still find it hysterical that WMP is #2 there for some reason
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
It makes sense. Keep in mind that list doesn't include this season for Bruce
Numbers through age 22 seasons:
WMP: .245/.302/.468
Bruce: .240/.309/.460
Bonds: .245/.329/.460
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
And some that I have never heard of, not once
And one that skipped parole and was a real black eye to Mike Dukakis.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
BLACK eye?
That’s racist!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a hunch some of those players won't be on the age 23 list....
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I have a hunch I'd like to see Bruce finish this year before I write him off forever.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
im not writing him off
but i am more than a tad disappointed in his development. i really thought he was going to be a Larry Walker type player. I’m much less sure of that at this point.
i’d, uh, very rapidly settle for a Jim Edmonds career at this point…
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Yeah, I'm definitely disappointed too
But like I’ve said, I really believe guys who have solid plate discipline when they get to the bigs do the best, regardless of age.
Jay never walked much and struck out a fair bit all through the minors. He just hit the ball so hard it didn’t matter.
The good sign is he’s improving on those things as he goes at the MLB level (never an easy task) The concerning thing is the dip in power, but hopefully that’ll reemerge as well.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
without the support of statistics
i’d say Jay is the best defensive RF in the league, right now. he has really impressed me with his hustle to catch/cutoff balls and his throwing arm is strong and very, very accurate.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
That's definitely been a huge silver lining all year
Even when he’s struggling at the plate, he will always help you out with his defense. He’s never useless. He also strikes me as a really smart player, which gives me hope for him becoming a consistently great player in the future. However, there are some really prolonged periods where he looks clueless at the plate, and I don’t know what to think.
And for whatever reason, he’s one of the guys on the team I’m happiest for when he succeeds.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on all counts
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
can't the same be said about Robert Stubbs?
even when he sucks offensively (and that’s more often than not), he at least plays an above average D in a premium D position
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's true
But we weren’t discussing Stubbs, and the expectations for Bruce’s offense are – and always have been – much higher than those of Stubbs.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
well, the argument can certainly be made about unrealistic expectations
or, just the wrong expectations
Honestly, I hope they end up better than they both currently are.
And, every conversation can revert back to Stubbs, or ass-less chaps.
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Can I ask..
why do you call him that? I know it’s his legal name and everything, but you don’t go around calling Joey Votto “Joseph,” or Dusty Baker “Johnnie,” do you? Do you just hate people who go by their middle name or something?
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He generally just hates cool things
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I heard he HATES ice
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
by jch24 on Aug 16, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe he's trying to get a 'thing' to catch on and it just hasn't yet
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
nah, that's not it
it’s just that I’m thinking that if I call him Robert Stubbs, Robert Stubbs has a chance to be a good ballplayer, whereas Drew Stubbs sucks something awful. Reinvention, and all that jazz.
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I went thru a Johnnie B Baker phase
and since then he’s been The Dusty to me.
Drew Stubbs sucks. I’m hoping Robert Stubbs can be a better player. It’s like re-inventing yourself, or something like that.
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Worked great for Bobby Kelly.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to see Jay copy Edmonds' career
because it’d mean struggling through injuries for years before hitting his stride with another team in his 30s. Brunansky is the opposite – solid 20s and then fell off a cliff (figuratively).
the next Tom Brunansky!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Tom Emanski?
He’ll be a back to back to back champion!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom Emanski?
He’ll be a back to back to back champion!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
one more and this would have been comedy gold
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
if only SB nation had fucked up just a bit more.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 16, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
there could be worse things
Rob Dibble, Norm Charlton, and Randy Myers were nasty boys. Arthur Rhodes is a nasty MAN. by Brendanukkah
Wow, talk about a low floor/high ceiling
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
And, someone should tell them, they reach free agency in three years rather than six
which would you want. Justin?
wrong again Timb
free agency is based on MLB service time.
The Reds have control over Chapman for the first six years of his big league career. If he doesn’t make the majors until 2012 (i know he will), he won’t be free agent eligible until 2018.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, the only thing an MLB contract affects is option years and the roster spot
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
if he runs out of options, Justin, he goes through waivers. If he clears, he can refuse an assignment , I think
I know after three he is exposed to waivers
your point is?
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If he is claimed by another team after three years, he has to be in majors
If he can refuse the assignment, then he is a free agent. EVERYONE wants to be a free agent
no because of failure though
everyone wants to be a free agent after playing really, really well. you dont make any money if you become a free agent because your team is so fed up with you that they release you.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
excellent rebuttal
i am vanquished.
/rolls eyes
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
different situations in that they were high draft picks who deemed free agents
but, the prospective big league contract we’re talking about is roughly similar. Getting to the Majors as soon as possible and getting that much closer to arbitration and free agency.
Hell, think about how far Chapman and defectors go to make sure they are NOT eligible for the draft
Ask Laynce Nix how free agency has helped him out.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
You mean, being on a major league roster and picking where you can play?
You think he’d rather be under a minor league contract with someone’s Triple A team?
Nix recieved a minor league contract last year and this year
I don’t think teams were beating down his door. The Reds choose to add him to their major league roster in spring training.
Nix may have only had a couple of choices when he signed with the Reds.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
That's exactly where he was. He was just lucky enough to find a team that overvalues his services.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Look at that HUGE payday Brandon Claussen got from Washington
after the Reds cut him.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
right, but free agency is a different beast.
Free agency is when any team can offer any amount of money for his services. Only comes with the requisite service time. Even if put on waivers, a team doesn’t have to offer money, just a roster spot.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
In the major leagues
else he has to go through waivers again. Being in the majors is a significant upgrade over being in the minors and puts one closer to free agency
but if he isn't playing well, he won't see a big pay day.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, he'll just have to sign a minor league deal or something similar.
Free agency is only really good for the superstars.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
50,000 versus 400,000. Just being on a MLB roster is a big payday
and all first round draft picks think they will be playing well
Right, but that's not free agency. That's just making the bigs.
And as was stated above, that’s a benefit of getting an MLB deal. But free agency has nothing to do with it.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I may be wrong, but I think it puts the pick on the path to his contract expiring early and getting to free agency
Like Justin said, I may be wrong.
Nope. Free agency has everything to do with service time.
If Yonder Alonso gets to the bigs next season, he’s still 6 years away from free agency. If he doesn’t get there until 2012, he’ll be 6 years away from free agency at that point.
The MLB contract just means he is getting paid more than his teammates at Louisville.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
you are
it does put the player on the path to making the bigs earlier, but reaching free agency with any hope of getting a nice contract is entirely predicated on playing very well in those first 6 years in the bigs.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't you sign a contract that paid him MLB salary while in the minors?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
thats gotta be against the collective bargaining
you can do a bonus, but other than that its structured pretty clearly
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
But you can just have a signing bonus paid out in installments, right?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
your agent gon' be pissed.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby Bonilla disagrees.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby Bonilla disagrees.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We heard him the first time!
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Does it affect a player's pension?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
i think MLB service time plays a greater role.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be my guess too
Just curious, and too lazy to do the research.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
then yes.
yes it does.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they can pretty easily make the space on the 40-man
but yeah, it would really squeeze his options. i really wish a few more deals were on the books already so we could have some kind of idea what he would reasonably sign for. is $2 mil too much? too little?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
it would be hard to do, they are at 40 now
They need to make room for a 3rd catcher in September, and if another injury were to occur in the middle Infield, they would need to add someone there.
Valliquette and Nix as easily expendable at this point
Danny Ray could be dropped as well, but i like him too much.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd still rather drop Edmonds than Nix
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
nix is considerably less valuable than edmonds
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Not sure I would put Valliquette in the "exoendable" category just yet
Power Lefty bullpen arm. Not saying he is the next Billy Wagner, but to just cut him, would be a little silly. Nix and Owings are about the only 2 I would D-F-A.
oh yeah Owings
i forgot him. honestly, i thought he was gone already.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
They wouldn't necessarily have to cut him. He could clear waivers. And honestly, I'd bet there's a good chance he would.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Yeah, good point. At this point in the season there are plenty of sucky teams with roster spots.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Votto'd?
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This sounded like you were talking about Owings
which made the Pirates part really funny!
by Brian B on Aug 16, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This sounded like you were talking about Owings
which made the Pirates part really funny!
by Brian B on Aug 16, 2010 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
royce fucking clayton...
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
Yuck - Rotation for that road trip in 06
Game 1 – Eric Milton
Game 2 – Aaron Harang
Game 3 – Bronson Arroyo
Game 4 – Kyle Lohse
Game 5 – Chris Michalak
Game 6 – Eric Milton
Game 7 – Aaron Harang
Game 8 – Bronson Arroyo
Game 9 – Kyle Lohse
Game 10- Eric Milton
Then the bullpen featured Mike Stanton, Rheal Cormier, Jason Standridge, Brian Shackelford, Scott Schowenweiss and bad Ryan Franklin.
Joe Mays was cut long before that
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Brutal
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if I recall correctly
Harang was the only decent starter on the team at that point. Arroyo had had a great year, but his second half that season was pretty rough, I think.
And that bullpen. Sheesh.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
was Guardado already toast at that point?
That may be my favorite cynical use of arms ever. Giving up on a flash-in-the-pan Travis Chick for a dude to just ride until his arm blows out.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he was. They got him early July and he only lasted a few weeks.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
you forgot Stormy
that was a decent year for him.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
2-0, 0.63 ERA, 1.186 WHIP, and a 761 ERA+
Plus we got him for free.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he couldn't wait to get the fuck out of here.
I'm like a .38 caliber Derringer: absurd but deadly.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 16, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That's fine
He only had one good year after he left. And then his wife overdosed. Really sad story.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was.
And in all fairness, I would have wanted to jump ship from that team too.
I'm like a .38 caliber Derringer: absurd but deadly.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Overdosed?
I never knew the cause. Accidental?
by Brian B on Aug 16, 2010 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Almost all overdoeses are accidental.
The cause of death was determined by an autopsy to be an overdose of cocaine and the anesthetic lidocaine according to a Maricopa County appellate court.
Since cocaine is illegal in the US, the potency of any dosage cannot be reasonably factored, leaving anyone who uses cocaine susceptible to unexpected death from either additives/impurities or from simply taking too much without knowing how much you are taking.
I am not a fan of this drug policy.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I must've gotten lucky then.
Seriously, there were a couple of morning/afternoon-afters that I couldn’t even eat from the sickness in my throat. Glad I stopped doing that shit a long time ago.
I'm like a .38 caliber Derringer: absurd but deadly.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 16, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And who knows if that was caused by the coke or by whatever they cut it with...
…baby laxative, coffee creamer…
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
WHo the hell is Chris Michalak?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
a left handed version of Tom Shearn or Justin Lehr
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no memory of him
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
The Reds played a long game in Philly where they used both Harang and Ramirez in relief
Ramirez was scheduled the start the next day, and he took his start, but the Reds called up Michalak fearing that Ramirez would fall on his face, which he did. Michalak saved the day that day, and made a couple of other decent starts (and some real awful starts), and I guess was mildly serviceable in 2006.
His call up in 2006 was the first time he had seen big league action since 2002, he was 35 at the time, but was dominating AAA hitters.
His average fastball was 81.4 MPH in 2006.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, 8/11/06
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI200608110.shtml
Rhodes pitched against us that night.
Pretty sure I was at that game (Michalak’s start), but it might’ve been the next night when Milton started.
I was at that extra innings affair, and then the game the next night!
We got EE to laugh pre-game when we loudly asked him why Jerry Narron hated him.
Us: “Hey Edwin! Why does Jerry Narron hate you?! He never plays you!”
EE: “(chuckling) Good question guys”
and then a couple minutes later, we saw Jerry Narron
Us: “Hey Jerry! Why do you hate Edwin?! He’s our best thirdbaseman! Fucking play him!”
Narron: “(quickly glanced at us) Worry about your own team”
Us: “Jerry, we’re Reds fans!”
Narron: shakes head and walks away
God I hated Jerry Narron
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
the amazing part is that we were all 100% sober
or, it was the sad part
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Was he wearing sunglasses that night? He looks like the type of guy that
would do that.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he had them on one of those rubbery looking things you put on the end of each side of sunglasses
so if they fall off you, you don’t lose them
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
My old man used to wear that thing. It's awful.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
You owe your very existence to the fact your dad stopped wearing that rubbery looking thing
by Brendanukkah on Aug 17, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no, we're Catholic!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 18, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
basically Randy Keisler without the bat.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
nice
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
chris michalak had the best pickoff move in all of pro baseball
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
he sure had a lot of practice using it.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
That's good, that's hot, that's niiiiiiiice
WHEE DOGGIE!
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I only remember because I went to a game he pitched,
But I remember someone in the bleachers making the point that he was a Jewish pitcher, which you don’t see often… always an interesting crowd there in the bleachers
Michalak was Jewish?
well i’ll be.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny, he doesn't look Druish
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
i'd rather be in Beirut right now
its lovely in the late summer
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
The windows from my concrete bunker were underwhelming.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuck indeed
I am SOOOOO grateful that there’s real pitching here now.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Wait
you weren’t blown away by Michalak’s 81 MPH fastball! If he reached back and threw as hard as he could, he still threw 15 MPH slower than Chapman!
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Chapman's best was 103 mph recently.
Which would place him 22 mph over Chris’ average fastball.
Also Chapman’s 103 mph mark is even more impressive when you take into account that Cuba is on the metric system.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried using this clock, but by the end of the day, I kept showing up 20% late.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm thrilled the Reds have Arroyo in the rotation....still
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I'd take a good LF over Arroyo right now
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
which is why i've nicknamed you "sweatyleatherpants"
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Matt Kemp!
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
who wouldn't?
we have plenty o’ pitching, and the cupboard’s bare in the OF
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
it is nice to know
that if there is another injury, the Reds will be choosing from pitchers like Maloney and LeCure, who are every bit as good as Lehr and Machalik, and they have more upside too.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If there's another injury to a SP, we still have 6 more to deal with.
Wood
Arroyo
Leake
Harang
Bailey
Cueto
Volquez
then you get to
Maloney
LeCure
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That rotation isn't terrible
Harang was gangbusters. Arroyo slowed down some but still had a solid second half. Lohse gave us a decent half-year, and Milton got as close as he would of being average. The 5th spot is the big difference between that team and 2010.
The offense is what really killed us in the second half. Aurilia was the only guy that hit down the stretch.
Did that Colorado guy give me credit for coining the comparison last Monday or do I need to have my attorneys contact him
I am sick and tired of wasting my brilliance!
But if you hold your "brilliance"
It can lead to some pretty bad things.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
good point, jch. But, without my "brilliance" what would Geki be able to contribute to a discussion
I mean, besides snarky sniping from the weeds (did you like the alliteration?)
I always love alliteration, well done!
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I usually like my alliteration to come in at least sets of threes
Trebled truisms are tremendous!
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll wait for your witticism!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people were happy to see Juan Francisco go down, and I don't necessarily blame him
There’s a lot of talk about needing to get rid of him as soon as possible and that he’s destined for failure in the majors, and again, I don’t necessarily disagree. I just think it’s important to note what he’s done when he has gotten the opportunity to face major league pitching.
In his most recent callup, he put up a slash line of .375/.412/.500. He only walked once, but he only struck out 4 times too. It was just 17 plate appearances, but he certainly played well in that limited time. His career line in the majors is .372/.438/.512. Again, it’s a total of 48 plate appearances so the numbers aren’t predictive or really substantial. I just think it’s important to note that when given a (little) opportunity, the guy has mashed. So props to you, El Nino Destructor.
I really think Walt is playing this one perfectly. If I had to guess, I'd say he plans to trade him in the offseason and is hoping a bit of MLB time bumps up his value a bit
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Yeah, I'd hope so
I’m not against trading him, but I’m really hopeful that his performance will land us someone good, or eliminate the need for another chip in a trade. I’m just impressed by the way the guy has succeeded so far.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
it is impressive
but i have little hope that it is sustainable. and the fact that Thom thinks he’s some kind of superstar-in-waiting makes me all the more skeptical.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So I had a pipe dream during the Marlins series. I heard Dusty Baker was drooling over Mike Stanton, their RFer who easily has the most power of any player under 23 right now.
The Fish have a lot of holes to fill, so I was dreaming we’d give them Yonder, END, and a pitcher for Stanton, and plug him into LF next season. That would be awesome.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
my God. Yes it will.
Sanchez has been pretty damned ok for them, though. And I think its tough to give up on a guy like Stanton.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
would you have traded Bruce for anyone 2 years ago?
that’s pretty much who Stanton is right now.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
except hitting.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
i said "pretty much"
gimme a break. asshole.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
right now Bruce is pretty much Mike Cameron
without the stolen bases and the ability to play CF
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
This is definitely the best placed comment in this thread
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I want Stubbs to steal more
but that would require him getting on base
and I think we’ve all seen Stubbs make too many miscues defensively than we’ve expected from him
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, no way I see it happening. They don't really have any reason to deal him since he'll be so cheap for a while.
Just watching him play, and listening to the Fish announcers, I agree with them: If his home park was GABP, he could hit 40 homers easily.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
no, but
we also had Votto, and Bailey, and Volquez, etc. In 2008 you could see that in a couple of years, the Reds would be pretty good.
If all we had was Bruce, and someone came along offering 2-3 guys who projected to be decent to good players, it might be worth it.
Otherwise, you end up with the Dale Murphy Braves.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Stanton may be the most valuable hitting asset on any team right now
Given his age and service time. I saw him up close at AT&T against the Giants. He’s a pretty impressive physical specimen. And at 20, he still has room to grow and get stronger. I could see him having the first post-steroid 50 HR season.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
2007 still seems like the steroid era to me
but maybe it’s not.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking Ryan Howard
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
This is less about being clean
since virtually everyone’s suspect at this point – even lacking a shred of evidence. It’s more of an arbitrary cutoff – the drug policy kicked in around ‘06 – and no one’s hit 50 HRs since 2007. You’d expect a little lag there, but it really seems like we’ve been in a post mega-power era for a couple seasons now. Stanton looks like a player that could be an outlier though.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
wasn’t it just last year where NOBODY in the AL hit even 40?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 16, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It could depend on how the new park plays out
The road games in the East are a wash, with a bandbox in Philly but a larger park in New York and maybe DC.
Jose Bautista
will get to 50 this year barring an injury. I think there could even be multiple guys get there
The living END
The guy can smash the ball when he makes contact. And the Reds obviously either like him – or are showcasing him, shown by three call-ups since last September. Everyone seems to agree that, with the type of hitter he is, it’s inevitable that the league would figure him out and stop throwing him strikes anywhere near his wheelhouse. But maybe that’s too cynical a take.
It’s too bad he can’t play a better left field right now – nor third base. The fact that Nix has well lately probably seals the fact that Francisco isn’t going to be on the bench for the rest of the year, barring injury.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to have END on the playoff roster
he’d be fun in a Miggy Cabrera in 2003 sort of role.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
...in which he had a .786 OPS
but still.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I just can't imagine there's a place for him
with 6 OF and a pitching logjam. They’d have to be willing to carry 9 or 10 pitchers in the playoffs, which seems unlikely.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
This has been posted before, but it bears repeating
END’s career BB/K rate in the minors is .17. The highest OPS I can find from any major leaguer with a ratio that bad is Bill Schroeder’s career .707. You have to get up to a ratio of .22 or better to start finding decent to good major league hitters. Vlad Guerrero, the guy some people like to hold up as an example of a guy who can swing at anything and be successful, has a ratio of .78 (well above average) because he never strikes out.
I really hope he can buck the trend, but unless he improves on his plate discipline, END would go down in history as the first decent hitter with such a bad BB/K ratio.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Rosales may have a higher career OPS than END!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
All the more reason to trade him before everyone figures out he sucks
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
wire transfers are better than cash transactions
the reference/trace # gives the sender and receiver a much greater sense of security!
and it eliminates the old check is in the mail argument
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
break his legs
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
is she dead yet?
im not doing an update until i get creds’ money
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
well now he isn't. I was just going out to put it in the mail, but if you're going to be like that, forget it!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
whomever had tila tequila had a near miss!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
You'd understand it better if there was an update.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You have my money, so do my update.
Or send back my money. It’s no fun playing a game where the scoreboard is hidden for months at a time.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I want my baby back baby back baby back
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
If you're not going to post any updates, I think we should all get our money back.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
couple things
first, it’s actually a lot more work than you might think to keep up with the league. With 22 rosters, that’s 440 people, and many of them are obscure, so the only way to find out if someone is dead is to look them all up individually. It’s not the hardest work in the world, but it’s time consuming, and I don’t always have time to go through and do that.
Second, i’m not getting paid to do this. I just do it because i like the idea of the league.
third, you can’t have your money back, but if the league isn’t what you thought, feel free not to join in next year, and it will be one less person to keep up with and potentially chase around for money all year.
I probably could update a little more often, maybe even once a month, but come on. cut me some slack; im the one doing all the work.
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I do give you some slack.
But after 2.5 months and 6-10 relevant deaths, ya gotta do an update or it’s no fun for anyone. And it’s not like multiple folks haven’t been asking for an update repeatedly. You can always ask for help if you’re too swamped.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, this was not at all your argument for waiting to do an update.
So maybe you should cut us some slack while you’re BS’ing us.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
well, i was trying to strongarm creds into getting his money in, but thanks
and youre welcome
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
If you're not going to post any updates, I think we should all get our money back.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And yet
Contrary to your expectations, he’s raised his BA at every level from A+ so far in his career. When do you think all these great pitchers are going to start getting him out sooooooooooooooo easily (they haven’t done so yet)?
Well, if you want to talk about making outs, his career OBP in the minors is .313, so it doesn't seem like it's been that hard for them
And I’m rooting for the guy, and I’d love to find someone with his track record who has succeeded greatly, I just can’t.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
So Cabrera is eligible to come back Wednesday
If Wood is still coming up to pitch the 19th, I’d expect Fisher and Heisey could both be gone by then. Ad then it’s who stays in the rotation – Bailey, Wood or Leake? And does Janish become The Invisible Man again?
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
Cabrera traded for Bobby Crosby
/2000s Cards are 2010s Reds’d
/2010s Pirates are 2000s Reds’d
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
This is sad to me because it reads cynically but is realistic and sad. Sad.
by jsl413 on Aug 16, 2010 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There's no reason Cabrera and Janish couldn't at least platoon left/right
No one loves a platoon, but given his defense Janish can be one of the most valuable SS in the league when hitting lefties. SSS, but he’s hitting.342/.432/.474 in 45 PAs against LHP this year. Janish getting shelved again would be as boneheaded a move as any we’ve seen.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm his biggest fan, but I think Leake needs a rest/demotion to get squared away
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I don't care to avoid the innuedo
So maybe Leake will go down for Wood, if they think it will make a difference. But it only defers the decision.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think he does
Leake was reported to have strong makeup and i don’t think sending him down “squares him away”.
Remember, he pitches in a bandbox and even the best pitchers (read: non-Cardinals) give up runs @ GABP.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Wait, Dusty is Jewish?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I don't think so, but this deer is!
I’m sure that’s photoshopped, but that’s one badass deer!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Does that only count as a six point buck?
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bambi Deerowitz?
Rob Dibble, Norm Charlton, and Randy Myers were nasty boys. Arthur Rhodes is a nasty MAN. by Brendanukkah
Today's passive-aggressive academic
This crazy guy somehow ended up being the conference coordinator for a conference September 22-24. For some reason, the deadline to submit final papers was August 15 and unsurprisingly, most people didn’t have them ready then. Time for a whiny e-mail!
To people presenting a paper:
Thanks to those who have sent us their paper. I would urge those who have not yet done so to do it as quickly as possible.
Bear in mind that each paper has a discussant, and that in some sessions a single discussant will be handling three papers. It is important (and a basic courtesy) that discussants have a paper in time to do a thorough job. Note that people teaching at US institutions have to start teaching very soon.
Let me reiterate: the conference is FIVE AND A HALF WEEKS AWAY.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Whoa, dodged a bullet
This crazy guy somehow ended up being the conference coordinator for a conference September 22-24. For some reason, the deadline to submit final papers was August 15 and unsurprisingly, most people didn’t have them ready then. Time for a whiny e-mail!
I thought you were talking about me, until I saw that the conference in question is September 22-24. The conference I’m putting together is in the spring.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So I think what happened
is that usually the conference happens in early September. They just kept last year’s deadlines, even though they make no sense.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Tell them you want power point presentations instead
just to mess with them
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
or a reel-to-reel
that will get their goat!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
or a mountain lion
that will really get their goat!
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Aug 16, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Ew, powerpoint.
I just stick to beamer, and thankfully I don’t think this is a conference where I’ll see many people using the “spiral bound notebook” powerpoint theme.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
what about each letter appearing individually to a typewriter sound effect?
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
i would go to that conference just to see Gray do that
and i would stand and applaud for the duration.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 16, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm supposed to be writing for a conference next spring right now, but I think I am damn near burned out.
I really need to graduate
are you an undergrad or grad student?
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
My secret was to always make my papers so inflammatory
that they would be rejected.
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.
i like presenting.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I got an email from a conference coordinator
well 3 actually, all telling me that the registration has passed and I need to send them money. Three months ago I told them I would not be attending the conference.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
you should still send them the money
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I submitted a paper to a transportation conference
and heard nothing so assumed my paper wasn’t accepted. Six months or so later I got an e-mail telling me to submit my final paper that week.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
but it was 3 identical emails
I don’t know if the guy had technology issues, or if he just wanted to fill everybody’s inbox telling them that we are about to lose are chance to go to Milwaukee and present a paper.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Which part?
The dressing up as a clown with a hard hat, or the dying of cancer at age 54?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Seems we have an issue with double posting on SBN today, hhhmmmmm
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
His art looks pretty cool.
And he has my empathy.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy Renck just earned a birthday card from me
with this gem:
He was suspended for seven games. Probably should have been 10. Carpenter — who else? — weighed in afterward, explaining that Cueto was never told how to fight correctly. Thank you, Dana White. Appreciate it. Can you get me a sparring match with Brock Lesnar?
there is nothing to beer, but beer itself
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Aug 16, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
Fun Fact
(As of 8/16) The Rasros have a better record against the NL Central than the lowly Cards.
Oh and also, The Reds have been getting it done against the scrub teams this year. Against teams below 500 we are 43-23 (.652). The Cards, however, against teams below 500 are only 34-27 (.557). Go Reds!
speaking of astros...
the fouls ball couple who gained internet fame at the astros game last week awkwardly announced their breakup on national television… pretty rad.
http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/08/13/astros-foul-ball-couple-announce-break-up-on-early-show/
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
by GrooveLeg on Aug 16, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that interview is more painful than getting hit by a foul ball down the third-base line
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
that interview is more painful than getting hit by a foul ball down the third-base line
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
i don't like the assigned gender roles.
the reporter is supporting sexism.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You should hit the reporter in the face with a frying pan.
"There is no such thing as an innocent Gatorade cooler."
champions beat shitty teams
which we have done outside or one series in Pittsburgh, Seattle, and KC.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 16, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That's three series.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget it, he's rolling
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I played in the Fantasy Camp reunion game today at GABP
Little rusty to start. Dropped a pop fly in the first inning. Struck out to lead off the second inning. I redeemed myself by catching a shutout inning behind the plate and then driving in a run in the ninth on a line drive single. My team still lost though as we took an 11-4 lead into the bottom of the ninth. Cordero just couldn’t shut ’em down. I was not on the field at the time (we had about 40 people on each team, so we only got to play on the field for 2 innings and only 5 of us got to bat twice).
The whole fantasy camp experience was outstanding. I wish I could go back next year, but I haven’t even made enough money off the book to pay for it yet. If you have a chance to do it, go!
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!
The Reds should sell you as a part of the experience...
Reds Fantasy Camp this year with Famed Reds Historian and Writer
Fantasy Camp and Cuba references in the same thread!!!!!
This is the most entertaining day in RR history!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
by obc2 on Aug 16, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Classic Fey today:
Votto, the NL’s top hitter at .322, took a called third strike to run the count to 1-2
Nothing better than contradicting yourself within the same predicate, due entirely to lack of proofreading.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
or due to a complete lack of understanding of baseball.
This is up there with that cubs fan who sat next to my wife at Wrigley a couple years ago. I missed the Cubs scoring in the 4th inning while I was in the bathroom. When I came back, this girl says Ramirez homered. “It was a walk-off.”
by Brian B on Aug 16, 2010 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I kinda don't like nitpicking
but he posted innaccurate stat on Paul Janish, saying he’s .282/.349/.385, when he’s currently slashing.275/.362/.402.
I don’t see a time, at least not this month, that Janish’s stats have ever looked like that.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Since taking over the starting spot on August 3rd
Janish is batting .282/.349/.385
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!
I am wrong
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna win!
/devilishly plotting a nice avatar for timb…
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
that is an awesome SLG%
You better hope he continues to walk, nyc…..actually, I better hope he continues to walk
Oh, I do. And he will!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
You do realize that Cabrera's SLG% is .339, right?
And yeah, his lifetime slugging percentage is .395.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
give janish a hundred more at bats....
wait for it
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
You a Cards fan, now?
i want the Reds to win!!! Heal fast, OCab.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
blah blah blah
Janish is a substandard SS, don’t get all the Paulie love. Give him some time to regress to his mean…
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
if this website ever goes up for sale
i, sincerely, hope you purchase it
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
and the whiny bitches shall inherit the earth!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
...and he'll still be better than Cabrera
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is how it works
Both are about a 6. One gets there by being 4+2, the other gets there by being 2+4.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
except
one has VR and one doesn’t.
i think Cabrera acting as the bat boy the other night was one of the cooler things ive ever seen. i KNOW the team was having a ball with that the entire night.
well done, Orlando.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Second'd
And let me just add that you are welcome to act in that capacity the rest of the year as far as I’m concerned.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
more like
One’s a 5 who used to be a 6. One’s a 6 who might turn into a 7. ;-)
BTW, thanks for the router recommendation. I’m very happy with it so far, and it seems to have fixed the problem. Very easy to install. Even easier than the supposedly idiot-proof Netgear.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Bubba, for the 57 millionth time, janish is almost 28 years old
he is not getting appreciably better
by timb116 on Aug 16, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
janish is entering his decline phase.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Which means Cabrera has been in his for 7 years now. He must be worse than we all dared think
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
well....
if janish and cabrera are comparable now…after OCab has been declining for 7 years, think how bad Paul is going to be soon!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
In 7 years? Yes, I imagine Janish won't be very good in 7 years.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
He's not 28 yet
And there are such things as late bloomers.
In any case, I think if he hits something like he did in the minors, with his defense, he’s better than Slo-Cab.
It’s not that I think he’s gonna be Barry Larkin, so much as our other alternatives are worse.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I think we need to start a Janish date thread SIS
some folks are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too enamored with the boy.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
by obc2 on Aug 16, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good idea! I'll start a Cabrera one too.
Yours will go up first since the Cabrera thread will be slow to load and will randomly shut down at odd moments.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
But it will be online everyday
even if it gets no hits.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I've posted his minor league stats before
above A ball, he has OPS’d over 700 once. He is hitting as well — or better — than he ever has
Don't believe I was talking to you :-)
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Wrong, OBC, Janish is above-average SS. He's a meh (historically) hitter.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he's no Walt Weiss
but Paul does have good hands and a plus arm. despite his rep, he doesnt have quick feet in the field.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
you're honestly arguing his range isn't good?
There was a ball hit sharply up the middle yesterday that he got to easily, smoothly transitioned to a throwing position and threw the runner out by a lot.
The same play would’ve resulted in Cabrera flopping as the ball rolled into CF.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Cabrera is on the DL
of course he wouldn’t have gotten that ball yesterday.
but i am saying that Paulie doesn’t pass the eye test for having great range. he lacks footspeed and quickness.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
He passes my eye test. Plus he passes my patented "Look Smooth While Making a Play Look Easy" test
Brandon Phillips is the standard by which all others are judged on that test.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
that's very true, which is why my test is adaptable to any position and many other situations
I’m sorry to report that you score very low on the blogger scale.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
those are the same people who think Cabrera is a good shortstop
so clearly they have very poor judgment.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes
but you are the person that think janish is a good player
so clearly you have very poor judgment
by 'tHan on Aug 16, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Never said he was a good player. Just better than Cabrera
/low bar’d
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
orlando led the AL is assists the past two seasons
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
hahahahaha. This comment literally made me LOL
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
This is one of the worst arguments for anything ever.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i disagree
i want my shortstops to convert ground balls into outs as often as possible.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
And total assists makes you think that his performace was quality and not quantity?
Cuz the number you are citing is solely quantity.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
more is better than less
and with janish one often gets less
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
true. less pastadiving
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I think the ball boys take care of that.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
wrong
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
need a bigger argument than that
where do we find defensive range stats for NL ss’s?
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
stats + scouting that agrees with stats = conclusion
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
from the guy who doesn't even know where to look up defensive stats?
I laugh at you.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
defensive stats are basically useless
it’s been said time & time again.
slyde doesn’t put much stock in them!
by 'tHan on Aug 16, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the other thing we need to organize
is a RR Fantasy Camp.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
We can call it:
“A Week in the World as obc and than See It”
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
/pointproven'd
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I really like this idea.
We can do it in Cincy, so there are no hotel expenses. We can get uniforms at a discount rate and have my wife do all the custom numbers and names. We can pay 3-4 Reds faves to come on out for instruction and whatnot.
Daddy likes.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Slyde can throw out the first pitch!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
kurt stillwell looked smoooooth too
alas, he was a substandard shortstop
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
His feet are quicker than O-Cab's. Everywhere.
Field, base paths, in line at the store. Everywhere.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Says the guy who likes Weird Al.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and Idol and Glee
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I don't doubt that
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
no fun zone, pal
nothing to see here. move along!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
But if Janish's AB music makes him smile, that's not OK with you
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
when janish's AB music ends is when i stop smiling
that’s when the actual at bat begins. its a damn crying shame!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
was anyone talking to you?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
this is the type of arguments that wins collegiate debates
ok, Bucknut….
quantify your position. what measurements are you bringing to the table that documents paulie has “quick feet”?
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
what measurements do you have that he doesn't?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
popups are gay
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
he never leads the league in SS assists
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
He doesn't play enough.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
because he plays under wise managers who limit his damage to the ballclub
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Yep, that's it. This is dumb.
Have fun eating orphans under your bridge.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ladies and gentlemen....
Farney Ray Herrara!
be sure to tip your busboys.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Wow, that's such a bad argument that I'm done debating with this wall.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Verizon Center keeps telling me he's a game changer
Nationals Park told me the same thing about Jason Marquis.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
red reporter tells me the same thing about janish
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
And you tell me the same thing about Cabrera
What’s a boy to believe?
Oh wait, that’s not what Red Reporters are saying about Janish. They say he’s at least comparable and probably better than Cabrera and deserves some more playing time. In the time that he has had, he hasn’t shown himself to be worse. Stop misrepresenting.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I really thought you were wiser than to try and engage these 2 in thoughtful discussion
clearly I am a sucker, but I expect more from you!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
he has a good point
but a better point would be that Rosales has turned into a damn useful player….and everyone here thought he was the shittiest ballplayer around.
folks are often wrong around here!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
As was I. You know who's stats are remarkably similar to Rosales this year?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
But that can't be true! He sucks!
But I hadn’t thought to look up Rosales’s numbers. Interesting.
Janish: .275/.362/.402
Rosales: .271/.321/.400
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Rosales makes up for it
with much worse defense.
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but he hustles
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
He also is out 4-6 weeks now
with a stress fracture in his leg
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this
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you were the most right in that Arroyo-Wily Mo trade thread Cy linked to
I just wish you’d quit acting like people here think Janish is a superstar.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i dislike janish quite a bit
i will root for him when he plays, of course.
i just have a sense of dread he’s going to regress to career norms. soon.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Ok, so honest question: Do you really like Cabrera, or are you just being difficult?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The fact that you asked this question made me giggle
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
It's possible
I think people like him because 1.) He has a good glove, 2.) he’s a Reds farmhand and people like players from their own system, and 3.) because Dusty really does bury him deeper on the bench than is warranted.
But you may recall the clamor for Stephen Drew at the trade deadline. People want a great shortstop. Better than Janish. Better than Cabrera.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't get a preference for players from the reds farm system
i just want good players. i don’t care where they come from
believe it or not, I agree
what’s frustrating is when the team brings in a mediocre or bad player from outside when an equal or better option is already present in the system
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I would reply to this,
but the stipulations laid out in our bet agreement prohibit me from doing so
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I had to read all these comments
at least that’s what I’m saying….the spirit of the agreement was shattered as I read through my bitter, disappointed tears.
in all fairness, Rosales would be a great utility player for this club
where can’t he play? (except catcher)
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he bring anything to the table that Cairo/Janish don't?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
youth, versatility
and most importantly: high socks
and let’s be honest, who’s ready for Cairo to come back down to Earth, before Johnnie B Baker starts using him in high leverage stop switch situations?
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Here are Janish and O-Cab's 2009 number for
RngR (range runs): Janish 6.5; Cabrera -10.7
Range runs (according to FanGraphs): The number of runs above or below average a fielder is, determined by how the fielder is able to get to balls hit in his vicinity.
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-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
is that a negative 10.7?
Christ on a crutch.
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Yes, that's a negative.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I should also point out that's just from Janish
playing SS in 2009. The 3B and 2B numbers are separated.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
...Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Singe August 4
when he went 3 for 3; he’s 7 for 32 or .219 and 3 for 19 or .158 in his last 6 games. That’s the Janish we saw at the end of last year when he hit about .180 once he was given the starting job.
that's misleading
The last six games aren’t a problem, except that they include the three games against the Cardinals. Nobody hit very well in that series.
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Misleading, how?
The more he plays, the worse he hits as last September showed.
And for the season, he’s batting only .224 as a starter. OC when he bats where he’s supposed to #2 in the lineup is hitting .303.
When OC comes back, Janish should be benched again and get some spot starts to rest other players. That’s what he can do to help the team; a starting SS he is not.
by no1marauder on Aug 16, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's OPSing .656 as a starter, or about 25 points higher than Cabrera.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Last September/October
Janish had a .560 OPS.
OC had an .815 OPS.
Who do you want in the lineup during a pennant race?
by no1marauder on Aug 16, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And that's not a fluke
For his career, OC has a .764 OPS in Sept/Oct which is almost 60 points better than for the rest of the season.
You have a proven commodity v. a player who fell on his face last year when given the job.
Well, I'd love to have last September's Cabrera for this year's pennant race,
but since that guy has clearly been lost to the sands of time, I’ll take Janish
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
VR3!
Since OCab has signed with the Reds all they have done is win!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
You're right, he's had way more to do with it than Leake, Rolen, and Cueto
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
They were saying OC
was washed up last year before he helped the Twins win the division with his play down the stretch.
Janish hit .176 last September if you missed it.
It's not alt night yet, timb
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
hey, stop that
I’m not the one cherry picking stats! One doesn’t need to cherry pick eother of them to prove they both stink
I agree, neither is ideal
And I’m just having fun with your reputation. You know I love you, baby.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
back at ya, big guy
You are the only commenter who has refrained from saying I get “all the facts wrong” Apparently the academic mafia sent out an email! But, I will get Gray and Justin and the rest…….OH YES I WILL. It will be like the end of the Godfather.
by timb116 on Aug 16, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Facts?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
by jch24 on Aug 16, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for the reference.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, anytime anyone disagrees with you, your galileo complex just gets bigger and bigger.
:P
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.
by andromache on Aug 16, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
you mean like the Indigo girls song
To be fair, Andro, if I were actually mad at people disagreeing with me, I have to hate all of you, be more careful with my reckless assertions, and probably hate my own three year old son. Damn him for being right about Max and Ruby!
I was trying for self-deprecating there....
You never imagine you will fail at self-deprecation, but apparently I can fail at that too.
oooh, the irony burns
It was just teasing! Hence the emoticon!
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the caftans.
OC
has been misused by Dusty in the #1 spot and #6 spot, but when he’s put him at #2 (where he should be) his line is .303/.343/.404 better than league average. And again this is no fluke; throughout his career his overall numbers are better in the #2 spot.
If he comes back and doesn’t play well, by all means play Janish and hopefully the latter can produce better than he did last year. But I still think Cabrera used correctly is a sufficiently better offensive asset that he should play over Janish at this point.
Doesn't matter. Bet was until the end of August, so regardless of when Cabrera comes back, we'll talk on Sept. 1
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Nope, just sticking to terms of the bet.
I personally don’t believe Cabrera will be back this week.
Dude is old and creaky.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Definitely his biggest contribution to the team
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Are you forgetting about his services as batboy?!?
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You're being ridiculous
He’s done fine since he took over at SS. The only series where he struggled was the Cards series. You know, the one where they ran their best pitchers out there and stymied the entire lineup. You can’t point to that can claim it’s proof that the more he plays the worse he hits.
Why not just look at the last three games? He did fine against the Marlins.
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that last sentence should be your signature
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
well, certainly not as well as you seem to know me.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
that makes no sense
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Maybe you DO know 'than. :P
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Johnson=substandard pitching?
Now I’m all confuzzled.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
The team as a whole hit .186 against the Cardinals.
.186/.252/.237, to be exact.
That’s why BF said it was misleading to cite stats for a period where half of it was taken up by that series.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
And if you want to talk about arbitrary endpoints, look at his numbers since being given the starting job:
.282/.349/.385
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
That's just silly
Why don’t you look at how he has hit as a starting this year? .224 gets you hard?
Or look at how he hit when he was given the starting job last year.
by no1marauder on Aug 16, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mixing Janish's everyday starter stats with his spot-start-every-three-weeks stats is folly.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is classic
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
You know, I'm pretty sure that was the same mistake they made on espn.
Yep, it was.. So it’s not Fay’s original mistake, but one he copied and failed to correct perhaps.
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by RedsMasochist on Aug 16, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So teh Fey copied someone else's erroneous work and pasted it as his own without giving credit to the source,
AND without proofreading it or putting it through his editor?
I’d get fired from my job for that.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The gauntlet has been thrown down! Devin Mesoraco has been promoted to Louisville.
His stats can start counting now!
On a serious note, this tells me they might be considering him for the big club next year, and Walt wants to know if he should pick up Ramon’s option or not.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Or a 3rd catcher this year?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I would realllly like if they brought him up instead of Corky in September...
With Hanigan and Hernandez healthy, there’s no reason we shouldn’t take a small risk with a few starts to see how he does…
That's actually a great idea. It would be a low-ish pressure way to get him some experience.
However, given the fact that every move Walt has made the last few weeks has been away from youth and towards experience, I doubt it happens. It’ll be Corky, that just means Devin will get more playing time for L’Ville in the playoffs.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Probably. They're all bums! Let's only sign old guys to play for us!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
they're telling Yasmani he's the 3rd highest rated Reds prospect whose name starts with "Y"
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
third Nix:
Yallan.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
History has shown Baker likes to have a third catcher when he can
and it’s good practice to have someone to spell the regulars when rosters expand. But neither Corky nor Devin are on the 40-man. This should favor Devin – since they’re going to have to add him at some point anyway. But Corky has been their man.
I don’t think it’s worth it dump anyone on the 40-man for a month of Corky Miller though.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, I just think they're going to want a veteran guy, especially one who already performed well for them this year.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Which makes sense to a degree
but isn’t optimal from a roster standpoint. The best thing to do is probably nothing. But if Hanigan and Hernandez are really wearing down, you could dump Springer or someone. It’d just be pointless to drop someone who might be useful next year so that Miller be third-string for month.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we'll see him this year
even in September. My guess is he’ll play a couple of weeks in Louisville and then go to the AFL.
Barring injury, I don’t think there’s any chance they don’t pick up Hernandez’s option. But I’ve been wrong before.
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The wise thing to do would probably be to pick up Ramon's option and start Devin in AAA.
As much of a fan as I am of his, he started the year at A ball and is only 22. It’d be asking a lot for him to be a solid MLB catcher so soon.
Inevitably one of the 2 catchers will get injured next year, and then Devin can have his chance, with an eye to a full time job in 2012.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man
It’s hard to believe he’s only 22, it seems like we’ve been talking about him FOREVER.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
And he only turned 22 at the end of June. Still plenty of time for him to keep developing.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Me so rakes a lot and hAnny in 2011!
by jsl413 on Aug 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's about damn time
although if Grandal signed a MLB deal, does he leap frog Mesoraco straight to the bigs?
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd be the first catcher to ever do that, so my guess is no
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I was listening to mo egger on the way home
and kindf ticked me off regarding Votto’s ejection and saying he normally likes Cowherd. Time to fire an email his way
What'd he say about the ejec?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 16, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he said that Votto has been ejected too often
and that he needs to keep his emotions in check, he’s a “26 year old man, not a 16 year old” etc. I agree that Votto should never take himself out of the game with an explosive tiarde, unless it is necessary (like the Rolen incident against the Dodgers). However, in on Sunday, Votto didn’t appear to do anything.
Further, he called Votto out for not saying anything in the press. He acted as though Brandon alays answers questions from the press even about unpleasant stuff (he used the example of Brandon’s response to the STL fight), but he failed to mention that Votto does answer questions about ejections and bad play (remember the KC debacle where Votto cut off the throw?)
I’m sure he is jsut trying to get some interest on an off day, but I think he is going a bit far.
He kinda has a point with the emotions bit
The last thing Votto needs is to get a rep with the umps, whether he’s right or wrong.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
The 1990 Reds were ejected 14 times on the year, and they had a reputation
They did alright. Buy my book.
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14?
we odn’t have that many this year, 2 for Votto, 1 for Rolen, 1 for Dusty, 1 for Cairo and I think that’s it. Only 5, we need to do better.
how many of those 14 were sweet Lou?
And, for that matter, how many included base shot-put?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 16, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
somebody needs to buy the book
Lou was ejected 5 times. Only once did he throw a base.
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i bought the book
do we do trade-ins after the semester is over?!?
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I agree with that
it just seemed like Mo Egger was throwing too much of the “acting like a 7 year old” he’s “not 16” stuff when Votto did nothing but jaw a little bit and make no gestures or anything until after he was tossed.
Votto needs to get rid of that reputation and I guess the only way to deal with it is to say nothing at all. Doing something like that, though, is like swallowing bile—I understand why he would not want to do that. We need him too much, though, for him to turn into the new Bobby Cox. He has to wait until he’s a manager for that.
Radio, especially Sports Talk, is all about the hyperbole
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
i concur that Votto needs to cool his emotions
ya don’t see Prince Albert getting the old heave ho in a pennant race…
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
no, they just lose to chicago with him in the lineup
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
as the Reds lost to the Cards with Votto in the lineup?
i don’t see where you’re headed with this…
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
nowhere in particular ...
.. just sorta saying we seem to win when votto gets tossed and that it’s always fun to remember that the cards lost to the cubs
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
but he wasn't heated
when he was tossed. He;s obviously very opinionated about the strike zone and jaws occasionally, but he didn’t do anything explosive. Cody Ross was MUCH more demonstrative the night before after he struck out and nothing happend.
or even when Votto addressed getting run in Chicago
remember how we should have a vote to see who plays first?
yeah and he even said he deserved that
I imagine he didnt’ talk about it because it was a get away day and he really couldn’t help the situation by saying he didn’t deserve the ejection
im gonna have to be talked out of doing this
http://www.etsy.com/listing/48175540/you-justin-bieber-unicorn
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by boobs on Aug 16, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can think of TONS of people I'd like to have the drawing made of, none of them myself.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just awesome.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a brilliant idea.
But I’m not fond of the drawing.
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I've no doubt she could
But she’d rather draw Joey than Justin!
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Yeah, I think so.
The unicorn’s pretty good, but that kid in the back is all kinds of awkward. Looks more like a doll than a person, in proportion and gesture.
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
its a graet idea for a portrait
it needs more blood and viciousness, IMO. also, she needs to be wearing crazier shit
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No, thank you.
Tomie dePaola taught me that real artists don’t copy. Also, I’m busy and slightly lazy.
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
will you do one of catherine zeta jones sucking off jabba the hut?
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by boobs on Aug 16, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
can I close comments on this thread right here please?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I like your think, kid.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit.
I have absolutely no response to this.
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not when he's done with CZT!!!!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Catherine Zeta's tongue
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Michael Douglas was just diagnosed with cancer
This is all in bad taste!
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I will NOT be baited
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
rec'd even though you left out the word "throat"
i knew what you were getting at
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so you're saying she's about to be back out on the market?
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Phoebe Cates, for one
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Nicely done.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but for 40 bones?
You could probably turn that out in 15 minutes. That’s $160/hour! Some good money!
common, thomas kinkade would do it.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
where'd you read that?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Didn't think you were lying, just though you could provide a link
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
nevermind, just saw it too.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Reds have signed their 6th round pick, Drew "Thong Song" Cisco out of HS
He’s kind of a Mike Leake type. Doesn’t throw hard (88-91) but has incredible control and polish for a HSer. Also has an above average curveball and an average changeup, all of which he controls. Not sure of the bonus yet, but this is a great sign for the org, and he could move pretty fast.
Now the only pick in the top 10 not to have signed is Grandal.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Votto, Heisey and other rantings
Joey, in my opinion, is getting a reputation within the men in Blue community of being a bit of a hot head. I don’t agree. I mean there is no way he whines and cries as much as some other guys around the division. But he needs to be careful because those guys are a brotherhood and they will squeeze him more than they have been. That being said I thought he carried on way too much after the ejection. Say your piece and move along.You can’t change anything and in my mind if you aren’t going to directly address the offending party why bother? Get in his face, get it off your chest and go take your shower. I’m just not a fan of standing 25 feet away from someone and screaming obscenities.
Heisey. I think it shows just how special that young man is that he is willing to put in a lot of extra work to benefit the team. And it is good to know there is a little wiggle room until they get the roster cleaned up. I just hope we do not have to wait until 9/1 to have some more, better options.
Harang. I don’t think we’ll see him before the rosters expand and I’m not sure we’ll see him then. I expect a trade for a mid level prospect to a team that is hoping to get 2-3 solid games out of him in September down the stretch.
Cordero. I loved his comments and really hope he gets it together very soon. At least he is honest with everyone, unlike Harang.. “I just made one or two mistakes”
Rob Dibble, Norm Charlton, and Randy Myers were nasty boys. Arthur Rhodes is a nasty MAN. by Brendanukkah
I disagree about the reputation.
The guy that ejected him hasn’t been in the MLB long enough to be part of that Blue community and, I agree with Justin, will probably be reviewed for that ejection. He has a Westian history of ejecting people to show he’s important.
I hope not
That might punch a hole through the plane.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
pull a Sullenberger, you'll be aight.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 16, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Since the team is off tonight, my guess is y'all will be 0-3
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Aug 16, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
if she offers to pay half the tab, politely decline
and say “I got this” while looking her square in the eyes and wiping your mouth with your hand.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
i disagree
not about the cookies about the sucky advice.
tHan’s wife is a hottie. i’d do what he recommends. he has a proven track record.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
is she a big girl?
if so, feed her cookies!
by 'tHan on Aug 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Remember to eat before you got out, so that you can order a salad.
Once you’ve ordered first, she will be too timid to order anything but a salad, as well. This will save you cash, and keep her stomach empty, ready to be plied even more successfully with shots of JagerMeister!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to work tomorrow Petey!
Plus, I’m pretty sure she’s going to insist on paying tonight, being it a first date between acquaintances. I’ll report back on this.
dating on a Monday?
Either she doesn’t have a job or she wants to make sure she has an out if you get any ideas about home runs. ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
First dates are for weeknights.
Weekends are for your friends and for sure things. Guys should never answer their phones on the weekend, as they should always appear busy and in demand. Women will tell you that they don’t like this, and want reliable guys who show up on time. But women want a guy who doesn’t idolize them, as they prefer to find a “catch,” not low-hanging fruit. So show up at least 5 minutes late ALWAYS and never answer your phone on weekends.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
NEVER bring a gal home.
It’s always HER place, so that you can get up and leave at any time.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I made this mistake once!
I just wanted to sleep in my bed alone. But she wouldn’t leave! But in this case, she lives 30 minutes away and I have to work tomorrow, so there will be no homing.
always clean your bathroom, kitchen and bedroom
poor preparation theory
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
This is horrible advice.
Jake is looking to get some stank on his hang-low, not walk her down the aisle in September, so showing off domestic skills is counter-productive.
And guys should never clean in preparation for a visit from a lady because:
1. It should always be HER place.
2. It sets an unrealistic standard which you will not enjoy attempting to live up to.
3. It places her on a pedestal, showing her think that YOU might think that she is better than you, which is a disaster.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wrong on all counts
a fella should always have a clean kitchen and bathroom. non-negotiable.
bedroom? yeah, that can go either way. but its a smarter play to have clean sheets and bedroom air, girls do talk ya know…
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Clean rooms = future expectations = eventual nagging
Bad way to play those cards. A “meh” clean place is the way to go.
And the bedroom should always be messy for a bachelor, with enough dirty clothes that the room has “your smell” but not a “nasty smell.” “Your smell” and ancillary body odor contain your pheromones, which work chemically on your special lady friend.
And for the record, Petey has a wife and a cleaning lady.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
tell me more about the cleaning lady!!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
by obc2 on Aug 16, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wrecked hard
Or so I’ve heard.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
I agree about the clean bathroom
and the clean kitchen is really dependent on the person. If you never cook, chances are your kitchen will be clean. If you cook, then you need to have what I like to call “I just made a fabulous meal” mess, that way she’s intrigued by the great kitchen aroma from a lingering meal, and she sees what tools of the trade you used to make said meal.
As for bedroom, as long as the sheets are clean and it smells good, you’re all set.
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This is good advice for once you're past age 25.
Context, gang! Context!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
true, I didn't get my shit together til age 26
and once I did, I hit my prime.
I’m gonna enjoy it for the next 3 years
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Have your mom do it while you're out! :)
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
i think posting dating advice from random RR'ers has tremendous value!
first, we need to eliminate those that have secured either ugly or batshit crazy partners.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Since I'm not wrong about any of this...
…maybe you should quit running your mouth and grab a notebook.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I am a graduate student of Leykis 101.
And in my lifetime journey that is approaching 40 years, I have likely made more mistakes than you ever will. If I can steer you clear of at least one big mistake, I feel I have done an admirable thing.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it so amusing
how I always wondered what was so wrong about being a “good guy”…and years later, I’ve finally figured it out. After blowing my chances with some women for being—you got it—too available.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
And "too nice"
A little bit of cocky and a dose of “I don’t extensively care, and I’m not always available” goes a long, long way. I wish it didn’t, but women can be too complicated for the open honesty approach that they say they want, but will often misinterpret as weakness or lesser value.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
As I post this, she calls me with an excuse!
Her dog got in a fight and she’s going to the emergency vet. Should I believe her!
Of course you want to
but there’s about a 10% chance it’s true. So it goes.
Just for God’s sake don’t make the next move. If it’s real, she’ll call and reschedule.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
This man is wise
The proper response here is to tell her you hope the dog is okay, and to give you a call if she’d like to reschedule. Then forget she exists and go drink beer.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
jch for the win!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I know she's really into dogs and I know she's a dog walker.
But I’m still gonna not make the move.
I suppose your 'eye test' is the only suitable way to judge this too
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
one or two....yeah....let's go with that. :)
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
jeez
That’s what they always tell women. Play hard to get. “The Rules.” Etc.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The problem is that "The Rules" was a book written by women telling women how men think.
FAIL FAIL FAIL
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
tsk
It’s ladies first for ordering, just like going through a door.
And a lady orders from the middle of the menu. If you order something cheap, it’s like saying you think he’s poor. And ordering the most expensive item is greedy.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I am all for chivalry.
This is a rare exception.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
that's sexist!
why can’t a fella order first half the time?
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
can I hire you to be my Gazoo?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
just repeat all the intellectual arguments here verbatim
i kill africans.
obamanomics works!
Renting is cooooooool!
Meat is murder.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
she's not a vegetarian
i own
i don’t kill africans what the fuck
by jsl413 on Aug 16, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If she answers the phone at the table, remember to excuse yourself and duck out immediately.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If your date answers her call phone while at the table with you, she's not worth your time.
It’s a really rude maneuver on her part, so immediately excuse yourself and ditch her. I normally do not recommend ditching, but in this situation, you’re cutting your losses.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
unless she's answering the call of a hot female friend
that’s a good sign!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I am crude, not snide. :P
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
what if she's a doctor
or, heck, even an engineer or fast food manager on emergency call?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There is no such thing as a fast food emergency.
Also, if she’s a doctor on call who does not first explain why she might have to take a call, then it’s the same bucket of rudeness.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yes there is
I was once on the other end. I was working the night shift alone, and the place caught fire. I had to call the manager, who was not pleased at being interrupted in a movie theater. But he was on call that night, and if I hadn’t called him or he hadn’t answered, we’d have been…er…fired.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Since the manager is neither a fireman nor EMT, the phone call should be a message that is later returned.
Not answered at the table. Rude.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I did call the fire dept.
But I was required to call the manager, and he was required to answer. Returning a message later wasn’t an option. He was on call.
You may not think it was necessary, but our boss disagreed. Do you really think someone should risk being fired just to avoid taking a call at the table?
I hate cell phones myself, and don’t carry one unless I’m required to for work. But these days, a lot of people are tethered to their jobs by those things. And parents may get emergency calls from the babysitter or whatever. If you sneak out as soon as they take they call, they’ll never have a chance to explain that the house caught fire or Junior has to go to the emergency room.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
i thought you could just do whatever you wanted to when you worked in fast food?
that’s what clerks 2 taught me
you can
If don’t mind being fired if you’re caught!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Again, if you are on call - for any reason - and do not explain beforehand
then it’s your own damn fault for being rude when someone walks out on you.
If I’m on a date with a gal, and she answers the phone at the table without any prior explanation, I’m leaving. And I would not answer that call at the table during a date, even if I was “the on-call manager at a fast food joint.” No crappy, dead-end job should take precedence over politeness and consideration for others. If you lose such a crappy job by not answering your phone, letting the call go to voicemail, and then returning the call when you excuse yourself about 5 minutes later, then your bosses are unreasonable, and you should go find a comparable shithole of a job.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it was actually a highly desirable job
For him, anyway. He had only a high school degree. And the company was actually very good. Privately owned chain. They gave generous vacation and health insurance, which you often don’t get in that type of job. And domestic partner benefits. The guy who owned the chain was a chemical engineer from an elite university, who just decided he liked the restaurant business better.
But it WAS an emergency, and voice mail and calling back weren’t an option. For one thing, I wouldn’t have been there to take the call. No one would have.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
what the fuck was this place
House of Usher and Waffles?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
it was a deli-type place
I’ve occasionally seen signs advertising it behind the batter during Yankees games.
It stayed open late, which is why I could work there (I was a college student at the time). It was well past midnight, and I was cleaning up after closing when I noticed the smoke.
The fire department trashed the place, plus they shut off the power. There was thousands of dollars of inventory in danger of going bad.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I didn't get this.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Or just a Poe excuse for a joke?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Aug 16, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thank you.
I almost write “or just a poor joke” but left it off.
by the finest muffins on Aug 16, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like something that you might want to bring up before you sit down, rather than being rude later.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
But I doubt he expected to get a call. I worked at that place for three years, and that was the only time I ever had to call the manager.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
And as far as parents go,
22-year-old Jake should NOT be dating a single mother. She’s a major unwanted pregnancy risk, and he’ll never be that mom’s first priority.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Jake, are you writing this all down?!?!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
conflicting arguments!
he shouldn’t want to be her first choice or she’ll smother him!
it would be like cleaning his room!
When women do not know where you live and you don't answer the phone on the weekends,
it protects one from unwanted smothering.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
also:
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I do not believe that this man is 22.
And they are in a relationship. Jake needs to being having a good time, not wrestling with relationship crap.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
you're up shit's creek
who’d she vote for last presidential election?
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
Ohhhhhh. You're a Glenn Beck Republican
things make so much more sense now.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I wonder what Obama thinks of the Cabrera v Janish
conundrum. I would let his judgment on the subject stand as the final word.
I want Sarah Palin's opinion!
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
I think she's a Kurt Stillwell fan.
Cuz he’s really white, and a horrible, unrealistic answer.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
this could be a deal breaker
there’s only 1 correct answer
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
*
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Doppleganged
If a guy hits .300 every year, what does he have to look forward to? I always tried to stay around .190, with three or four RBI. And I tried to get them all in September. That way I always had something to talk about during the winter.
Bob Uecker
grad school is for folks avoiding the Real World!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
I went to grad school and never miss The Real World
I love that they’re back in New Orleans, and Ryan is one of the all-time biggest creeps on the show.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
do you have Come On Be My Baby Tonight on cd?
if not, i can arrange an introduction to David. he went to college with my ex’s sister in Missouri.
awesome!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
No, and that's ok
That music does not make me smile.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe you need to kill more africans
maybe that’s the problem
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i always recommend setting a location when going on a first date
its much less creepy that way
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
you should not have posted that
now all these creepers are going to stalk you
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
They have a better chance than you do
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
you are always extremely late to parties
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
in this case though he's the loud one everyone will pay attention to
that was the meanest sarcasm of the night!
what's his name?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
Her loss.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
It’s possible, having met Jake, that he would have spent dinner complaining that it didn’t taste enough like Skyline.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 17, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
that's right
Unlike the rest of us, you’ve dated him.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Aug 18, 2010 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
CBSSports poll has 37% of voters saying Votto deserves to win NL MVP.
Pujols is at 22%, 12% for player not listed, 12% for Adrian Gonzalez. 8000 votes in!
What about COL C Gonzalez?
Average: Votto .322, C Gonzalez .321
HR – Votto 28, C Gonzalez 25
RBI – tied for rbi
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
How are Votto's numbers away from GABP?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I love how Cowherd tried to say he didn't deserve to be an all-star because he plays at GABP.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I visited a Ted's Montana Grill tonight
I had a hankering for Bison Burger, but it crumbled when it came and was very expensive. But the bartender was discussing Joey Votto’s chances for winning the Triple Crown. He thinks they’re pretty good!
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Opening Day!
someone should open one of those up north
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
opening day is a great place to eat!
chip > ted turner
by 'tHan on Aug 16, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i could stop by OD tonight
but im forced to head east on 275, dangit.
SPARTANS!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
practice?
at least it’s a little cooler today.
batting gloves man was sporting some weird tan lines today
they had practice games sat and sun also
it was 8 touchdowns to zero in first half. thankfully the scoreboard remained 0-0.
obc spawn is now a linebacker!!!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
What will you do if he becomes really good and goes to OSU?
Or less good and goes to Miami?
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It was my first time eating at one
I’d have to say I had a similar experience.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of Ted's
kid I went to HS with used to be back up Press Secretary for Bush, and just opened some joint named Ted’s Bulletin in DC. Lemme know if it’s worth checking out next time I’m in DC if you don’t mind.
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yelp seems to like it
Next time I’m on Capitol Hill, and lord knows when that will be, I’ll check it out
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still trying to figure out how that kid ended up Asst Press Secretary
and do you trust Yelp? I’ve gotten burned a couple times on Yelp recommendations on places to eat
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
RR Reporter!
I’m riding the train to Boston tomorrow!
Oh, which reminds me. If any RRers in Boston or NYC want to grab a drink this week, let me know. I’ll be around.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I'll be around the city until Thursday. Free pretty much all day
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
When do you arrive?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
GRAY 3:16!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
or more likely...
GRAY ~4:30
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
In the past five days
it’s only been more than three minutes late once!
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I'll be around. I could meet you somewhere around there late afternoon if you want to get a beer.
Let me know.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Sure. I'll shoot you an e-mail at your yahoo address?
I need to nail down plans, but I think I’m free until I meet a friend for an early (by NYC standards) dinner.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
are you taking the Acela?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I am taking it one way.
First class, even! I have a ton of Amtrak miles so I’m blowing through a lot of them that way. I’ve always kind of wanted to take Acela, and it was 8000 miles for business class or 10,500 miles for first class. Probably worth it considering I’m taking it all the way from DC to Boston.
I’ve never traveled first class anywhere. I wonder: how drunk can I get in 6.5 hours?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
they've got wi-fi and power outlets on those things, don't they?
You can tell us what it’s like!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Almost all Amtrak trains have power outlets.
All of the NC trains have one for every seat, which is very nice. I work on my laptop while going to and from work. But they don’t have wi-fi, and Verizon only covers about half of my usual route. That’s actually probably for the best, since I tend to get more done when I don’t have Internet access on my computer.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I can get "disowned drunk" in 4-5 hours easy
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Yes, but would they bring me drinks quickly enough for that?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
You could pull The Mads Technique
“…and put some goddamned alcohol in it this time.”
I’ve never been on a train, but I know in a casino they’ll bring ‘em pretty quick. Especially when you’re winning.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
by jch24 on Aug 16, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not in CT they won't
Both Mohegan Sun & Foxwoods has a 20 min drink time. You have to wait 20 fuckin’ minutes between beverages.
Damn Indians.
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 16, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I said that line the bartender at Qualcomm once.
They tell me I damn near took a header out of the second deck that day, and seriously discussed buying a beer for each Marine in attendance.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I just wrote my first "letter to the editor"
God, that feels good, doesn’t it?
Also, I have a cat and spend too much time online. Yeah, I’m turning into One of Those People.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you have a cat?
How do you manage that will all the traveling you do?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
its my landlord's
but it got into a fight with his other cat, so its staying with me.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
good for you!
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 16, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't be so hard on yourself, you could be the next Andy Rooney!
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
And what is it with digital watches? I didn't have any trouble telling time when it was just a big hand and a little hand.
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
Those youn whipper snappers
with their modern art!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
But few things are as fun as
the Andy Rooney Game.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WILL SOMEBODY GIVE THAT FUCKING HORSE SOME MONEY ALREADY?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
My four year old daughter just informed me that she wants a baby sister
I told her to bring it up with The Peach the next time she sees her.
Nice knowing you guys.
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
Go send her to live with Slyde
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Aug 16, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
good call, I think him & FVA are gonna start a commune
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
tell her
It’s a crap shoot, and if she loses, she’ll end up with a baby brother. And no, you can’t give it back if it’s the wrong flavor.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
snohio knows how to guarantee female offspring
not sure the peach will agree to what’s required, however…
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
MLB's Jonathan Mayo reporting that Grandal has signed
$2.99 million.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Aug 16, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"I don't care what happens, DO NOT give him $3 million!!!"
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
by jch24 on Aug 16, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Wow, and a major league deal.
That is a HUGE bonus.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I didn't realize that he's the first 2010 draftee
to sign a major league deal. Huh.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
does that mean
someone gets booted off the 40-man?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
whattya think a package of
Alonso, END and Janish could net the Reds?
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
A better 2011 team OBP?
"He couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with an elephant." - My Main Main Mads
by jch24 on Aug 16, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your everlasting admiration
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
that's what it means
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
This is a good question...Nix, Springer, Owings
I don’t think I’d be happy seeing anyone else released. They could do the classy, expensive thing and offer to transfer Springer to the 60-day DL, but that’s not a great business decision.
"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not with the organization's newfound valuation of "y"
by Brendanukkah on Aug 16, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They only value it sometimes.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Aug 16, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
vowel'd
and rec’d
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Nicely done.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Aug 16, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So did Washington sign Harper yet?
Rob Dibble, Norm Charlton, and Randy Myers were nasty boys. Arthur Rhodes is a nasty MAN. by Brendanukkah
Colin Cowherd has been ripping on the Reds the majority of his show.
Apparently a Reds writer took a shot at him and he has been taking a big shit on the team for it. This guy is what is wrong with ESPN these days.
Watch it, ass blood.
Herd's a pretty sharp guy
Met him once, and he really seems to know when to appropriate stir the pot
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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