Even the Hova cameo on this SeanYe West track was whack. Reds win, 5-4.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 15, 2010 12:22 AM EDT
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Nick Masset. This space has been accused of having a prejudice against pitchers, and perhaps the honor should go to Mike Leake, who avoided his customary disastrous inning. Instead, we'll give it to Masset who pitched well with two scoreless innings of relief, in place of the normally infallible Arthur Rhodes. Honorable Mentions go to Hanley Ramirez and Drew Stubbs.
Key Plays
- Due to an error by pitcher Sean West in fielding Mike Leake's sacrifice bunt attempt, the Reds had runners on first (Leake) and third (Paul Janish) with no outs in the third inning. Then Brandon Phillips, Chris Heisey, and Joey Votto all struck out.
- The Reds did get their runs in the fourth inning, though. Scott Rolen and Jonny Gomes walked to lead off the inning, and one out later, Ramon Hernandez singled to score Rolen. Gomes went to third and scored on Paul Janish's suicide squeeze. Then Mike Leake got a hit and Hernandez scored. Reds lead, 3-0.
- Figuring all the cool teams have a guy named Logan, the Marlins sent Logan Morrison to the plate in the fifth inning, and he got an infield single to second base. Not easy to do. One out later, Dan Uggla hit a two run homer. Reds lead, 3-2.
- In the bottom of the fifth, Chris Heisey walked, then went to third on Votto's single. Joey then stole second base, and Scott Rolen singled. Heisey scored, but Votto was thrown out at the plate. Reds lead, 4-2.
- Wes Helms homered in the sixth inning to continue the seesaw scoring. Reds lead, 4-3.
- Drew Stubbs gave the Reds a vital insurance run, homering in the eighth off of Clay Hensley. Reds lead, 5-3.
- Vital, because Francisco Cordero pitched the ninth. Per his custom, he loaded the bases with no outs. Emilio Bonifacio walked, Hanley Ramirez singled, and Logan Morrison walked. Gaby Sanchez grounded into a run-scoring double play before Dan Uggla fouled out to end the game. Reds win, 5-4.
Other Notes
- At the beginning of the ninth inning, the Reds had a 93.1% chance to win the game. After Francisco Cordero walked Logan Morrison to load the bases with no outs, the Reds chances of winning were only 57.6%, a drop of 35.5%.
- The Marlins had a runner on second base or better in every inning except the eighth.
- The Reds are 2-0 without Dusty Baker.
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Boooooo
Janish deserves at least an honorable mention for that awesome bunt on the suicide squeeze. I just saw it on ESPN. It was a fastball really low and inside. I can’t believe he made contact on that pitch.
1 for 3 with a double and a RBI.
.273 / .363 / .404
I’m not missing Slo-Cab.
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by BubbaFan on Aug 15, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
So is it safe to say that at this point CoCo is our worst reliever?
That’s a scary thought.
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Fisher has a higher WHIP
But Coco’s right up there.
The Fay has some comments from Coco.
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I honestly think I'd rather have Fisher in the 9th inning right now. At least he'd throw strikes.
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You can tell just by watching him that Coco's nervous as heck every time he steps on the mound.
He needs a couple of weeks pitching in low-leverage sitches. Let Lurch close for a week or two and see if Coco can’t get this worked out.
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lurch, no ...
future closer chapman, yes!
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
Much rather have Chapman starting in the future, fireballing lefty starters ain't exactly easy to come by
Now, if he could come in and shut teams down in the 9th inning for the rest of this year, I am all for it.
“I have to stop walking people,” Cordero said. “I’ve got to do that or it’s going to be like that every time. I see how upset the fans are with me. I understand that. Every time I walk someone, that guy comes in to score. It’s not like I’m giving up a lot of base hits. It’s walks. I really don’t know what to say about that. It’s not my style. It’s not me. I’ve never been like that my whole career. I have to keep working and try to be better every time out.”
“I created that myself, walking people. I’ve got nobody to blame but myself. Putting me in that situation, putting the team in that situation and putting the fans in that situation, it’s why they’re upset with me right now. I’ve been walking too many guys. [The fans] have been great, unbelievable to the team. They’re coming out on the road, coming out a lot to the stadium. They want to win. Putting the fans in that situation is not fair.
“In the end, we got to go home happy. I know they got to go home happy.”
he clearly gets how everyone feels
but that can’t help him much. I don’t know what’s wrong, I hope Bryan Price can make a slight adjustment and fix it, but ithat seems incredibly unlikely
Ain't got nothing but love for CoCo
And I’m loath to ever boo the home team. But it’d be perfectly reasonable to pitch a little in the earlier innings, with a big lead or deficit, and get right. Might be, in part, as case of the yips.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Aug 15, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Eyewitness report
It was a happening place. People everywhere. I didn’t get a gnome. I was sad.
I forgot just how much range Drew Stubbs has in center. There were at least two plays that he didn’t have any business making that he came up with. Also, he absolutely crushed that homer.
To be honest, it was kind of a boring game (until the 9th inning, of course.) You could feel the tension in the crowd when Coco came in. Every pitch was met with either loud booing or Bronx cheering. Jordan Smith didn’t just warm up, he sprinted from the bullpen bench to the warmup mound.
Reds won, people went home happy.
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too bad you didn't get a gnome!
that gnome has intrigued me since opening night when I first found out about them
absence makes the heart grow fonder
At least with respect to Bruce and Stubbs. I do like Heisey (I was calling for him to make the roster before the season started). He did all right tonight (0 for 2 but with 2 walks). He’s not Dunn or Gomes with the glove, not at all. But he doesn’t have Stubbs’ range or Bruce’s arm. I was kind of taking them for granted, I think.
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I was just thinking that
Stubbs really does get to alot of things that others, proabbly Edmonds (I’m kind of hitting him hard this week) would not
great win despite the out of control ninth
In other newws, regarding the Cardinals loss, I admit I’m shocked. This is from Cardinals’ reporter Matthew Leach:
Pitching four days after suffering some bruises and abrasions in the Cardinals’ scuffle with the Reds, Carpenter never seemed to find his sharpest command. He and manager Tony La Russa both dismissed and connection between his scrapes and his performance, though. Carpenter did acknowledge that at one point the oppressive heat got to him, but he was able to cool off in the clubhouse and resume pitching.
I thought Carpenter would have tried to blame the fight in Cincinnati for that, but maybe even he can see how silly that would have been.
He knew it was too silly to blame the fight...
So he blamed the heat. For Pete’s sake, he should just man up and say, “I didn’t have my best stuff tonight, it happens”. Whiny little bitches indeed.
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by RedsMasochist on Aug 15, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions
that didn't stop mccarver from blaming the fight ....
… asshat … both of em’
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
Francisco Cordero to be our starter
Considering the amount of money that he was paid, Reds should give Cordero a starter’s role. May be it would be good for him to start one game and let’s see how he performs. May be by starting the game, Cordero will learn that he has to be sharp when he is the closer and he is not supposed to screw around, walking batters and giving up hits. Baker, we need you to think outside the box; otherwise you appear dumb when compared to LaRussa.
You realize that Coco's last professional start was in 2002, probably on a rehab apperance
his last season with extended time in a rotation was 1995 a low A ball.
But a two pitch pitcher, with control problems would be an awesome starter, especially since he is 35.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
But we would be able to witness the worst Reds starter since Jimmy Haynes
That, my friend, would be something special.
You mean opening day starter Jimmy Haynes?
Gawd, those were some crappy teams.
It's summertime - go Reds!
in 2002 it was opening day starter Joey Hamilton.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Solid
We need to fill those gaping holes in the rotation. May as well be a late 30s reliever who’s making too much money.
Very curious to see how Homer does tonight. Leake fell behind on guys all night and doesn’t seem to hit his spots like earlier this year. A move to the ’pen might be in order soon.
by ken on Aug 15, 2010 7:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Leake said he pitched outside the strike zone on purpose
It kept the hitters guessing when he would throw something in the strike zone. I think it worked .
He may be struggling recently
but I’m really excited to watch Leake continue to make adjustments in the majors. He’s still gonna be really good.
we sailed that boat with the danny graves experiment ..
… no thank you
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
and Graves made some sense
he at least had 3 or 4 pitches.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Poop on a stick..This Day in Red's History....not yet posted...
Fine then…I’ll just go back to bed.
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Just noticed this this morning
The Reds only have to go 24-21 the rest of the way to win 90 games. That seems entirely reasonable.
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the NFL blacks out PRE-SEASON games
because of ticket sales?
That is lame. And evil.
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ESPN
is running a show about whether baseball should have expanded replay. They did a study and found 20% of close calls are wrong.
Eric Davis is one of the guests.
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Davis is in favor of replay
He made a pretty good case. He said he thinks even those opposed to it would change their minds if they lost the World Series, or lost a chance to go, because of a wrong call.
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When that call on the foul ball in the Marlins series happened
a bunch of Marlins that weren’t in favor said that they think there should be replay.
Wow. END optioned to make room for Bailey. That leaves the team with 6 OF and only Cairo as a backup infielder
Lineup:
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Votto 1B
Gomes LF
Edmonds CF
Cairo 3B
Hanigan C
Janish SS
Bailey
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
This seems...not so smart.
Does somebody see Stubbs as an emergency second baseman or something?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
This tells me that they think Cabrera will be back Wednesday.
Still I don’t like.
What I do like is Bruce hitting second. But that’s almost negated by Edmonds in CF. If you want to play him, put him in LF instead of the guy who can’t hit righties or play defense
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Edmond's CF defense is limited and lazy from what I've seen.
Not to mention he can’t hit a lick right now. Why play knifey-spoony with Bruce and Edmonds and leave Gomes in there?
Regardless, Bruce ahead of Votto could be great for Jay over the long term, but we probably won’t see results in just one game. I’d be an advocate of this sort of lineup:
BP 4, Bruce 9, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Heisey 8, Edmonds 7, Catcher, SS, P
well
It should discourage Rolen and BP from brawling at least. If they both get ejected, we’re screwed.
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well, probably they're counting on Ocab return
on wednesday
by vottosmash! on Aug 15, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
that puts my feeling in a bind
I don’t want the chance of being short an infielder, yet I don’t want Ocab to regain his starter status. I like whats his name at short.
fuck yeah!
I’m not missing END.
Who goes down when Wood comes up?
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cordero
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
You know things aren't going well for Coco...
when you are calling for this; you’ve been one of his bigger supporters.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
I think he has to be hurt
his stuff is still there, I can’t figure out any other reason why he is struggling so much right now.
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by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's either mental or mechanical.
I know Price said at one point that he noticed something in Coco’s delivery that they were working to correct. I would think that if it were physical it would affect his velocity more, but that’s just my guess.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
if he is having a back issue, it may just be effecting his location.
I am sorry to use Isringhausen as an example, but he pitched 2006 with a bad hip, and he was not nearly as effective despite not having any drop off in his velocity.
Oddly enough Isringhausen’s 2006 stats are nearly identical to Cordero’s this year.
Isringhausen’s K/9 was 8.02 and his BB/9 was 5.86, his WHIP was 1.46, and he had an extraordinarily lucky ERA of 3.55.
In 2010 Cordero’s K/9 is 7.91, BB/9-5.85, WHIP of 1.55, and lucky ERA of 4.13.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Because he hasn't come in with runners on in 13 of his last 14 outings
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
he is pretty damn good
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by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
that seems insane
I guess they’re assuming that Slo-Cab will return as soon as he’s eligible Wednesday.
Still seems kinda risky. Not to mention limiting.
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Whomever it is, it probably won't be who we want.
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I think Edmonds and Nix are probably safe for now
They could send Stubbs down instead of Heisey, but I think it would be dumb to do that at this point.
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I know he's safe
I just think he’s an enemy plant.
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.
How about Bray or Fisher?
Doesn’t seem like the last guys in the ‘pen are used that often bc our starters go deep. When rosters expand we’ll have plenty of arms, so it’ll only be a short term sacrifice. And for the playoffs, the 5th starter will join the ’pen.
by ken on Aug 15, 2010 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So...
he can be replaced by Chapman in a few weeks!
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
good question
Gotta be an outfielder. Unless they want to do some fancing roster shuffling with starting pitchers.
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well, there's Wood and Harang waiting in the wings
Until the brawl, people were expecting Leake to be sent down in favor of Bailey.
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life is good
Any news on Tubby’s rehab? Looking forward to him returning well rested for the stretch run
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by Ewok on Aug 15, 2010 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes!
And Votto missed that tag.
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So, today, I woke up with infinity mosquito bites.
Everything between my knee and ankle on both legs itch.
I don't think so, but I guess maybe?
I was in a very buggy area yesterday and I had a lot of bites, I just didn’t think they’d be this bad or plentiful.
Remember-don't scratch
every time you scratch O-cab will be playing short and CoCo will pitch the ninth.
clear nail polish on each bite ... sound stupid but works wonders
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by joshuar9476 on Aug 15, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Does it have to be clear?
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
tooth paste works well too
not gel, but paste.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 15, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I really think salt is the way to go
make sure you scratch all of them open to remove any possible infection, and throw salt in the wound.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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