Farmers Only: Wladdy continues to impale fools
by BK on Jul 29, 2010 8:15 AM EDT
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Print- Louisville won 7-5 behind another big night by Wladimir Balentien. Wlad went 3-for-4, hitting his 20th HR of the year, and has a line of .400/.441/1.167 over the last 10 games. That's an OPS of 1.608 for those of you scoring at home. For a team that's been considering picking up a bench bat, isn't Wlad at least worth a looksie? Juan Francisco and Yonder Alonso also homered, and Chris Dickerson doubled twice to bring his average to .429 on his rehab stint. Sam LeCure gave up 5 runs in 6 innings, and Aroldis Chapman had another scoreless bullpen outing. Up next: Matt Maloney takes on Charlotte at 7:05.
- Carolina lost to Jacksonville 6-2. Despite a crappy start by Travis Webb, the Mudcats' bullpen was solid, with Jeremy Horst and Federico Baez pitching 2 perfect innings each. Mike Costanzo was the sole bright spot on offense, going 3-for-3 with a homer. Up next: Matt Fairel takes the hill at 7:05.
- Lynchburg lost a heartbreaker 8-7. In a 5-2 game coming into the 9th, Shane Carlson drove in the tying run with a single after a Jose Gualdron double, and after a sac fly and Kyle Day's double drove in 2 more, the Hillcats were encouraged. In the bottom of the 10th, the Keys came back on Donnie Joseph, as he allowed 3 runs (only 2 earned) to blow the save. Chris Richburg was 3-for-4 with a homer. Up next: Curt Partch at 7:05.
- Dayton lost 5-3 to Bowling Green. Cameron Satterwhite hit his 7th homer as one of his 2 hits, and Justin Walker gave up 5 runs in 6 innings. Up next: Tim Crabbe takes the mound at 7:05.
- Billings got a well deserved off day. Daniel Tuttle will take on Missoula at 9:05.
- The AZL Reds lost to the AZL Giants 6-1. Mitchell Clarke gave up 5 runs in 3 innings, but all were unearned, and Joel Ernst and Luca Panerati pitched 2 shutout innings of relief behind him. Robert Maddox and Samuel Diaz had two hits each. Up next: A-Reds take on the AZL Cubs at 10.
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good to see robert maddox doing well!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jul 29, 2010 9:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sorry to threadjack ya, BK, but if no one else has said it somewhere ...
Oswalt to the Phils.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe, but my guess is they really, really, really wanted Halladay.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
that's just the thing
they had both of them. the Halladay trade and the Lee trade were completely independent of each other.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Amaro is starting to push his way into the discussion of worst GM in baseball
Minaya, Moore, and the newly-minted DiPoto still have the edge, but he’s coming on strong.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
What about the guy he's trading with?
Ed Wade might have an argument too, depending on how this trade looks if/when it goes down.
Are you only counting guys who have jobs? Bowden, Steve Phillips, Ricciardi, and our very own assistant Bill Bavasi might be the worst.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Jul 29, 2010 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i was only counting guys with jobs
and you might have a point with Wade.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
But they weren't really independent of each other.
Halladay wanted to be in Philly and wanted a contract extension — the Phillies were willing to do it but it would take top prospect. Philadelphia also wanted specific Mariners prospects to replace what they were giving up to Toronto — that took Lee.
All of this had to go down for that deal to go down.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
But they didn't have to give up Lee. They just wanted to restock their farm
Problem is, the guys they got back aren’t that good. The Ms got more back for a half season than what they gave up for a whole season
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes. But it was very clear that Philly would NOT make the deal if
they didn’t at least restock the farm.
Which gets me back to my original point — They really, really, really wanted Halladay.
And they weren’t going to get him if they didn’t give up Lee. There was no chance, from the beginning, that those two were going to be in the rotation together. None.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
but that still doesnt make sense
the only reason the Phillies couldnt have both was because of some stupid arbitrary desire to “restock the farm”. why the hell should a team like the Phillies, perennial WS contender with only a few years left to contend, worry about their farm? who cares if your farm is a shambles if you have a team as stacked as one would be with Halladay, Lee, and Hamels headlining your rotation? the only thing standing in their way was their own stupid GM.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
"with only a few years left to contend"
Their thinking was that they could contend longer than a few years with a good farm system. It’s not a stupid theory.
“the only thing standing in their way was their own stupid GM.”
Actually, the desire to restock the system was placed on the GM, it wasn’t his decision — he wanted both Lee and Halladay. But he isn’t really who’s in charge. That would be ownership and Charlie Manuel. (Yes, that’s beyond scary to think about.)
My main issue was that you said that the two deals were independent of each other. They weren’t. They both had to happen in order for the Halladay deal to go through.
I’m not saying the decision was smart or the process was good — I’m just saying that these two deals were not independent of each other.
Who knows, the GM could have had Halladay wrapped up with Lee in the rotation but got nixed until there was some movement with Lee.
I, too, think they should have kept both guys, but to say they were independent of each other is wrong.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Originally it was reported as a 3-way
with Lee going and Halladay coming in the same deal. So the initial reaction was positive; sad to see Lee leave but happy with getting an ace.
I think you’re giving the GM an easy out with the restocking the farm thing. That’s what he and the ownership said publicly. I suspect that they thought they could waltz to another pennant without Lee, save a few bucks in the process, and get a couple of live arms. At the very least they grossly misjudged the value of Lee and worth of the prospects they received.
Wouldn't disagree with this.
Also, yes, I could be giving Amaro a free pass in this instance.
But the dude is an idiot. There’s no way — none. You give Ryan Howard that much money. Ever. That’s where he trully fucked himself.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they're gonna have a rough go of it after this year
Rollins and Utley are unlikely to play full seasons at their prior levels. There are no viable in-house candidates to fill in for them either, which is why they’ve been asking about Miggy Tejada. Howard might not kill them but that contract will be an albatross. Werth will be gone after this year, though Dominic Brown could provide similar production.
Looking at their bb-ref position starters, Victorino is the only one in his 20s. He’s 29.
Yes, they are fucked. Right in the ass.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
so i should have said “the deals should have been independent of each other”.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, you should have said this:
“The Phillies are being run by dumbasses, with dumbasses, for dumbasses.”
I would have rec’d that!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
and that's the point
it was dumb on philadelphia’s part to take that stance. they easily could have had them both in the rotation.
Which raises the point
Imagine if Walt had gone after Lee in the offseason.
Given what the Ms paid, we coulda had him for Boxy, END and a low A SS, of which we have a few.
I know we weren’t thinking about playing for just this year then, but damn. That woulda been great
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 29, 2010 11:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think Walt would have done it because it would have
basically been a one-year rental.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. But to say the Lee move and the Halladay move were
independent of each other is wrong.
The whole decision was retarded. They could and should have both. But brass wasn’t going to let it happen unless the farm was restocked.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
The team’s official stance notwithstanding, it’s clear that they could have had both Lee and Doc in the rotation. The purported reasond were money and restocking the farm, but as others have said they got a poor haul in prospects from Seattle. And the money reason makes no sense since the Phillies gave generous extensions to Howard and Blanton, and had signed Polanco shortly before trading Lee.
The Phillies have an old, win-now roster and are swimming in money. It made no sense – then and now – to trade Lee, and it likely cost them another pennant.
Agreed. My only arguments were that 1. they wanted Halladay at all costs
2. the Halladay and Lee deals were not independent of each other.
I agree with everyone that the Phillies fucked this up terribly.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really a Fanpost or Fanshot, so I'll post my question here...
I had an accident last week and am on crutches and have tickets to the game Saturday in the 500-level. I haven’t applied for a handicap pass, because I can do my everyday things OK, but the whole process of getting to and around the ballpark is a little more involved. Has anyone gone to a game in a similar condition? Is there anything they will do to accomodate or will I have to show some type of official handicap documentation?
I believe you can use the elevators if your on crutches. No questions asked.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm ... I can't help you there.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 29, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Email me at the address in my profile
I’ll be at the game Saturday, I’ll help you out however I can.
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
he will
he’s kind of a big dude, he’ll just toss you across his shoulder like a gym towel.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Leave our Tuesday nights out of this, mister!
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
wait a second...
i see you on Thursday nights….
YOU CHEATING WHORE!!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 29, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
HE MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A WOMAN! BETTER THAN WHAT I GET FROM YOU!
HAVE YOU EVEN MADE AN EFFORT THE LAST SIX MONTHS? NO! YOU COME HOME AND WATCH THAT STUPID BALLGAME WITH THE LAPTOP AND LAUGH OUT LOUD FOR NO REASON! THEN I GET TIRED AND GO TO BED AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW YOU COME FALLING INTO BED COMPLAINING ABOUT JAY CABRERA OR SOMETHING STRIKING OUT WHEN I’M WEARING THE CAMISOLE YOU BOUGHT ME FOR OUR ANNIVERSARY LAST YEAR BUT DID YOU NOTICE? NO! INSTEAD I HAD TO HEAR ABOUT HOW EDINSON GOT SCREWED! YOU KNOW WHAT? JUST ONCE I’D LIKE TO BE THE ONE GETTING SCREWED!
/littletooclosetohome’d
tl;dr – sexual relations > baseball, evurdayothaweek
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
by jch24 on Jul 29, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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