Reds reach out and touch faith - and it sucks. Reds lose, 8-5.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2010 12:26 AM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Miguel Cairo. This was a tough award to assign. I didn't see the game, and my only criteria was to not give it to Strasburg. It sounded like maybe Cairo wasn't that sharp with his glove, but he never made an out at the plate, going 2-2 with 2 walks and 2 RBI. Honorable mentions go to Stephen Strasburg, Ian Desmond, Cristian Guzman, and Jay Bruce.
Key Plays
- Brandon Phillips got the Reds first hit off Stephen Strasburg, a two out triple in the third. Fortunately, Orlando Cabrera immediately got the second hit off Strasburg, a single to bring in Phillips. Reds lead, 1-0.
- Bronson Arroyo couldn't hold the lead though. He walked Adam Dunn to begin the fourth inning, then gave up a double to Ryan Zimmerman. Roger Bernadina hit a sacrifice fly as the Donkey tied things up. Game tied, 1-1.
- In the bottom of the fourth, Jay Bruce and Miguel Cairo singled with two outs, and ended up on second and third on Bernadina's throw. Drew Stubbs flied out to Bernadina, and Bruce decided to test his arm again, only this time the throw nailed him at the plate. Now Bruce knows what it feels like when the rest of the league tries to run on him.
- In the fifth inning, Arroyo hit Ian Desmond with a pitch, and two outs later, Cristian Guzman hit a rare home run. Nationals lead, 3-1.
- The wheels fell off for Arroyo in the sixth. Ryan Zimmerman doubled and Josh Willingham walked before Roger Bernadina's single loaded the bases. One out later, Ian Desmond singled to score the two lead runners, and Stephen Strasburg sacrificed Bernadina and Desmond into scoring position. Bill Bray came in to relieve Arroyo, but his bad run of form continued as he immdediately gave up a two out, two run single to Nyjer Morgan. Nationals lead, 7-1.
- The Reds finally cracked Strasburg in the sixth, too. Joey Votto singled with one out, and Jay Bruce did the same with two outs. They both advanced a base on a wild pitch, and both scored when Miguel Cairo hit a single to chase Strasburg from the game. Nationals lead, 7-3.
- Seeming poised for a late comeback, the Reds loaded the bases in the seventh with singles from Ryan Hanigan and pinch hitter Laynce Nix, and a walk to Brandon Phillips. With no outs, Orlando Cabrera struck out, Joey Votto grounded out (which did score Hanigan), and Jonny Gomes struck out. Only one run out of that perfect set up. Nationals lead, 7-4.
- The Reds got some more baserunners in the eighth, but nothing approaching a serious threat. Miguel Cairo got a one out walk, but was erased on a fielder's choice by Drew Stubbs. Ryan Hanigan also walked, and pinch hitter Chris Heisey singled off reliever Matt Capps to drive in Stubbs, but Brandon Phillips ended the inning by hitting into a fielder's choice. Nationals lead, 7-5.
- In the ninth inning, Willie Harris homered off of Arthur Rhodes. That sentence is as good as any at summing up how the night went for the Reds. Nationals win, 8-5.
Other Notes
- Stephen Strasburg struck out seven Reds, including Jonny Gomes and Bronson Arroyo twice each. The Reds had 12 strikeouts in the game.
- A crowd of 37,878 turned out to see the game, one of the best week night crowds without a promotion the Reds have had in years.
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Strasburg probably deserved it
But I approve of the selection of Miguel Cairo. I don’t think you can blame him for missing that ball. Janish would have gotten it…because he’s taller.
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I honestly think Rolen would have had that.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
probably
He’s even taller than Janish.
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I'm kind of annoyed at Rolen right now
Janish or Cairo are my 3Bs! I understand why LaRussa got angry at him to be honest. If he is injured, he needs to go on teh DL and not take up roster space.
that is nto to say that LaRuss'a handlign of the situation was good
it was terrible, but staying around when you’re hurt doesn’t help anyone
But they're HIS Reds!
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
is it really up to him?
Doesn’t the GM decide who’s going on the DL?
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I'd assume Walt gives Rolen some say, but, in his tenure, the DL has been misused a few time
with guys that should be there not being DL’d leaving the team shorthanded for a while
yeah but it seems like he needs to be more forthright
about how bad an injuiry is. I’m not saying he is not in this case, but it seems like this injury has gone nowhere since Saturday or Friday and it’s Thursday. I’m not sure if it’s Rolen, Dusty, Kremchek or Jocketty who is stalling the DL trip, but he should probably have gone on teh DL last Saturday.
it probably is nott up to him
I’m probably over emphasizing his role because of what I read about his feuds with La Russa and Rolen’s alleged concealment of injury
yeah, I agree
Hamstrings always take twice as long as they think they’re going to take.
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right
safest bet is a DL trip and bring up Sutton or Francisco. Our backup, Cairo, isn’t young himself
Is 3 ER in 5 2/3 IP deserving of a best player in the game honor?
I’m not so sure.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Jul 22, 2010 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
In this game, probably
Seeing as the relievers were all worse and there were no walkoff homers or anything.
I don’t mind Miggy getting it. 2 for 2 with 2 walks is pretty cool. I wish his defense and baserunning had been better, though. Not least because the Reds might have won.
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I have to agree with BK
ESPN deemed Strasburg the “Cincinnati Kid” last night (Personally never seen the movie). I understand the game being on ESPN they had a financial obligation to promote his status, but the only person that deserves the title “Cincinnati Kid” is perhaps Mike Leake this year. If ESPN is going to act like a preschool teacher and celebrate every mediocre performance by the “Anchorman” Strasburg and somewhat ignore Mike Leake’s performance then I shall boycott them or at least until NFL season starts.
by LyotardFactory on Jul 22, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought this was Brendanukkah at first
that said, I agree completely. I don’t mean this as a “disrespect” thing, I mean this as “if its your job to follow stories, you should at least follow stories” thing. I don’t want to whine about a lack of respect for Leake, I want to yell at ESPN for being irresponsible with their coverage.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Cairo shit the bed
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I went to the game
and I have to say it was the least fun I’ve had at a game in a long time. Just didn’t feel in it at any point. That probably has more to do with my terrible week than the game but the bullpen was terrible and the offense missed many opportunities. The runner on third with one or less outs and failing to score activity has to stop.
Votto needs to not start tomorrow and Stubbs needs to sit. Votto needs a rest and Stubbs needs to stop striking out.
I love my team, but I haven’t felt like that since Philadelphia to be honest. I have to say, after this game, I like Bruce and Cairo more than I did before even if Cairo botched that defensive play. I sat in LF seats and Bruce is always nice and fun despite what is happening in the game.
you should have went to the Tuesday night game
we are fine, the Cards are just really hot right now.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You were in the RF seats?
Thanks for saying hi. :(
You were the huge drunken guy in the Nationals jersey, weren’t you?
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
We were right next to the tunnel between 141/142
142/M/20 was my seat I think.
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
I have decent money that says you were sitting behind us
I’m tall and had a sleeveless jersey on with “BB” on the back. Sound familiar?
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no, unfortuantely
guy in front of me really wasn’t paying much attention to the game, perfectly nice but dfeinitely doesn’t fit that description. You might have been closer to the Nats fan. If I was behind you, you would definitely have heard me say “Guys, come on this is on ESPN!”
I thought Votto looked baffled all night he does need a rest.
Hi-Z was clutch again give the kid some PT Stubbs needs to sit back and watch some balls and strikes for a game or two.
There was a lot of striking out looking and at pitches way out of the zone and not thrown by Strasburg. I was like they were getting used to elite pitching and had to adjust back to mediocre pitching again.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
Votto hasn't been really sharp since the ALl-Star break
however sometimes he just slumps a bit. I think he does need rest, but I’m not totally sure why. I know he and the other All-Stars had a long trip, but they had two days off after the All-Star game. Maybe it is more fatiguing than I thought. That game last night couldn’t have helped.
I'm so freaked out about the West Coast trip this year.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
yeah
but I still dont’ see why young guys can’t take the time change. I don’t have to play professional sports, but I don’t notice a huge difference in energy when I fly back and forth. Maybe that’s because I never go to sleep to 3:15 ish anyway. I’m already on West Coast time!
Additionally..
…I thought we did pretty well against the supposed Messiah of baseball. Most of his K’s were against pitchers or people that strikeout a bunch. 7 hits against him and many of our batters went deeper into counts. Definitely didn’t look untouchable. It was cool to see 99 on the gun often however.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
Hanigan and Ramon to be in the lineup tomorrow
The Reds expect to activate catcher Ramon Hernandez off the DL on Wednesday and start him at first, giving Joey Votto a day off. Hernandez has been on the DL since July 9 with a sore left knee
i'll miss Corky.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
but will you really?
I could see them putting Rolen on the DL, activating Raymoan, and carrying 3 catchers until Scott the Red returns. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
by DocRam on Jul 22, 2010 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
because Monie can play 1B! /shots self in head
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
So can Cairo!
/shoots Scrabbles again in the head
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by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
and didn't he play a little 3B last season?
Save me a bullet.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
by DocRam on Jul 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LLM played some 3B in 2007.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
if they dl Rolen
they will call up Sutton or END. If END is still hot might not be bad for him to get a couple of weeks of full time big league play.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a question from Section 531 tonight
And maybe this was addressed in some of the game threads from the previous three nights:
Why do Reds fans boo Adam Dunn? Is it because they’ve all drank Marty’s kool-aid? Or do they believe he abandoned the Reds or something?
I do heartily approve of them playing “Sister Christian” once briefly tonight for his walk-up.
A lot of them have sipped on the Kool-Aid
I would love for him to be our LF right now, personally.
But I’d also trade Jonny Gomes because I’m confident Heisey is a better player because he actually plays defense.
A guy with consistent 40-hr power and .380 obp?
How do you boo that? I’ve never understood the distaste for Dunn in this city.
it's not hard to understand the distaste if you think about it...
he got fatter as the season went on, he showed horrible discipline at the plate, he has a 30% career K%, consistent negative UZR150, has all the talent in the world but can’t make an adjustment, sucked on the basepaths, “he was a bad influence for young power hitters like votto and bruce—rabble rabble rabble!”
my point is, while dunn was a very valuable offensive player, he was still worth a crapload of negative runs. in 2006, dunn had 40 HR with an 855 OPS (490 SLG) and 1.9 WAR… i’m willing to guess that most 40 HR guys have much more value than that and are slugging at least 500. so i understand it.
however, i am also with you fwiw. i don’t want him back on this team though. the culture has changed here.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
2006 was also his worst season by far.
I’d rather have him than Ryan Howard. But I do agree, the culture of the team has changed too much at this point.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He should be friends with colin cowherd.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
yeah, I saw the McAlister v. CTR twitter fight last night
it was humorous.
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lance was waayyyyy into bashing dunn last night
said he was nothing more than a beer league softball player.
and a dog that isn’t a winner
Would he have said that stuff if he was on the radio?
And there was a chance Dunn would hear about it? I doubt it.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
he says some stupid things on the radio
because he believes some stupid things.
when he’s on, i don’t listen to his show anymore. i just listen to the national guys from fox sports radio.
i really wish they’d just replace him with mo permanently
You should get all your friends to listen to his show
then have all of them call or email in! That’ll show him!
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The biggest thing I hate about him
Other than him being an idiot of course, is he will do anything he can not to talk about sports. He has to have a non-sports topic every day, when there is plenty of sports to talk about. This is an area that has the Reds, Bengals, UC, UK, OSU, SEC, Big East, Big Ten(12)…..and you tell me you can’t talk sports for 3 hours?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
And that is even excluding
NBA, NHL, MLS, Golf, Tennis, racing, etc.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
Several years ago, my sister rescued a greyhound that wasn't a winner
That dog is being put down today because of an untreatable tumor in her leg. So fuck you, Lance McAlister.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
McAlister is the greatest puppy killer of them all!
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Lord
I just went and read this. He thinks Dunn is the reason the Reds couldn’t win while he was here? I’m not the biggest Dunn fan in the world, but without him the Reds would have lost even more.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
The Reds lost during those years because they had dick for pitching
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
right
dunn’s teams would have won a few more games if he’d been given a pitching staff equal to the one we currently have.
i like this better ...
The Reds lost during those years because they had dick POLE for pitching COACH
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
It's the Marty kool-aid, but not even Marty hates him as much as Lance McAlister does
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Jul 22, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
The funny thing about the booing, to me at least
was the minute long standing ovation for Pete Rose, who I generally consider to be a scumbag (though I understand why the fans were applauding him).
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I think Pete Rose is a great man
always bringing international people to baseball games!
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who designed her dress?
andre the giant?
by 'tHan on Jul 22, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was gonna say Ray Charles.
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yeah
i didn’t see rose play, and i barely remember him managing. i don’t have fond memories of him to cloud my judgment. i don’t really like him, and i don’t care if he ever gets in the HOF
Rose was a great player, and given the hometown connection, I understand why certain Reds fans adore him
but if you listen to the words he says whenever he talks, the guy is a raging egomaniac. They had a video of him at the Gala on Sunday, and it was all I this and I that, and he ended with something like, “Who would have guessed that I would have gotten a 9 minute standing ovation that night.” (when he broke Cobb’s record). It came off really douchey. Hell, even Johny Bench managed to sound magnanimous on Sunday.
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I'm in the same boat as tHan
all I’ve ever seen of Rose is the liar, suckup, false contrition for personal gain, and the Ray Fosse collision. I don’t really want him in the HoF, as that would be some serious double standards going on.
i dont want to see him anywhere
i have zero good feelings about Pete Rose. the stories my dad told me when i was a kid have all been faded by years of Pete being a butt salad.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 22, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
it pissed me off
i was kinda hoping Dunn would hit it into the river last night in the 9th.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm heading down to the game tomorrow
The Reds are 0-3 on the year with me in attendance. We’re due…
Got your tix yet?
I’m going to show up and buy some at the gate. If you are looking for someone to hang with, call me. If not, that’s cool, whatevs.
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Does anybody here think that picture of Strasburg looks like my friend Nathan from high school?
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Was Nathan fat in little league too?
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by nycredsfan on Jul 22, 2010 7:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm really conflicted over the Izzy sitch
I don’t want to like Isringhausen, but I will if I’m forced to. And I’m a much bigger Izzy fan than I am an anyone-else-he-may-replace fan.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Well apparently there is another lefty in L'ville who seems bound for the Reds pen
It seems perhaps we’ll see him sooner rather than later
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by nycredsfan on Jul 22, 2010 8:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I still think he'll be fine, but I'm not sure they'll give him much rope
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by nycredsfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
relievers are fickle for people who get upset at seeing high ERAs in small samples.
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Bray has good stuff
i dont think he’s ever been healthy enough to show for an extended period though.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
he had a nice ERA in 2008, but a WHIP north of 1.5
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
I don’t know if this has been discussed, but rumor has it that the Cards are front runners for Roy Oswalt, and he has said that he would love to pitch in St. Louis and he had “indicated earlier this year that he would not require the option to be picked up at all if he were traded to the Cardinals,” which is something he supposedly would require for any other deal.
I’ll be greatly disappointed if the Cardinals make a major move and the Reds don’t. I don’t want to miss this opportunity this year.
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Is Houston that stupid to trade him within the division?
I don’t see the Reds making a major move after not getting Cliff Lee. Dan Haren supposedly has Cincinnati on his no-trade list, and they don’t seem to be looking at a SS to upgrade over Tubby.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
I wonder if Haren's list was made before the Reds were contenders
Rosenthal says that he’s heard that Haren’s list should be a non-factor.
Personally, I don’t expect the Reds to trade for Haren because it sounds like the price is going to be seriously high, but I will be frustrated if the Cards make a major move and the Reds sit on their hands.
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maybe they won't care if he's a short-term rental
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Houston doesn't care where he goes.
They won’t be contending for a good while, they want salary relief. It is highly doubtful the Cards would re-sign him in free agency because Pujols is also a free agent. And Oswalt saying they won’t need to pick up his option makes him more valuable as a trade chip with the Cards, so yes, they would be that smart to trade him within the division.
I feel like trading him within the division would be more damaging for the Cards than Houston
Houston isn’t going anywhere for the remainder of Oswalt’s contract. But the prospects that St. Louis ship to Houston could help rejuvenate that franchise.
I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.
by justin007000 on Jul 22, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
do the Cards have the prospects to get Oswalt?
seems to me their cupboard is kinda bare.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You think that really matters to Ed Wade?
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by Slyde on Jul 22, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't know how they could get this done
STL is completely devoid of top prospects, and I doubt they have the money for him either.
Having said that, Astros ownership is dumb, and they seem desperate to unload him. If the Cards get him for little I’m going to be very unhappy.
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by nycredsfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"I really don't know how they could get this done"
Two words – Ed. Wade.
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are there any words about the Reds being in the running for Oswalt?
surely they can put together a better package, and I seriously think that its worth it to make sure the Cards don’t get him alone.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt, Volquez, Cueto, Arroyo, Leake
I could handle that, with Travis Wood making several starts to keep Leake’s innings down.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
if the team that trades for oswalt really does have to guarantee that option year
i don’t think i want him.
and i don’t think i’ll be all that upset if the cardinals get him.
This is kind of my feeling too
OTOH, I’m scared they get him for a B level prospect, plus get Wade to pick up some of his salary, plus don’t have to pick up his option
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by nycredsfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the difference between Oswalt and the current #5
is more than enough to keep them ahead of the Reds. That scares the hell out of me.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
There's the no trade clause and the option he might require to be picked up
The Reds are most definitely not going to be in on him
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by nycredsfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
then again
he owes the Reds, they basically gave him that huge contract with their play on the field versus him.
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This guy says the Reds are going hard for a reliever
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
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