Red Reposter - Can This Team Make the Playoffs without Scott Rolen? Can They Make the Playoffs with Orlando Cabrera?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
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PrintRed Reposter's Numberbits sponsored by Kellogg's Numberbits cereal. It's like Post Alphabits with less variety! - 6-11 - The Reds record without Scott Rolen this season. They are 45-31 with him. It's hard for me to buy into the mysticism of Scott Rolen's Reds, but it's just as hard to deny it.
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Jonny Gomes sat at his locker after the game
the top three buttons on his jersey unfastened, ran a comb of Dapper Dan through his intimidating mohawk, and winked at the picture of Kim Kardashian pasted to the inside of his locker door. "It was a good all-around game," Gomes said. "Cueto, the bullpen, situational hitting, and don’t forget Miguel Cairo coming off the bench. He’s a true professional." That was an incredibly satisfying win last night, wasn't it? The Reds seemed to have the entire game under control from the first pitch to the last. I felt like after the 2nd inning I could turn the game off and be totally confident that they would cruise. I didn't turn the game off, but it's a good feeling knowing I can. We need another 70 or so games like this. -
The Reds are going to take a look at Jason Isringhausen
and Walt admits that one of the motivators is desperation. "I haven’t had offers on guys who help us as far as experienced guys to pitch late. These guys (Isringhausen and Russ Springer) I know what they can do." The trade market for relievers looks untenable at the moment, so it makes sense to me to check all available avenues. -
So not only has Scott Rolen been suffering from the flu
but he also has a sore hamstring. "Tagging up from second to third Friday night, I felt a little burn in my right hamstring, [and] I didn't recover too well," Rolen said. "And then had the privilege of throwing up in my bushes when I got home with the stomach flu. So that was just an added bonus. So had I not been throwing up the last two days, I would not have been in the lineup anyway." He got a cortisone shot on Sunday and the Reds are hoping to keep him off the DL, but it's probably better to be safe than sorry. Juan Francisco is slugging well and not walking down in AAA, but (and I can't believe I'm saying this) I think Miguel Cairo has played his way into the lineup. His wOBA is a career-best .341, which isn't great, but I definitely think he could hold down the fort for the next 10 days or so. -
Ramon Hernandez is eligible to come off the DL today
and it looks like it might happen. He did catching drills and took BP yesterday and Dusty says he's looking good. -
Jay Jaffe put together his starting lineup of "Replacement-Level Killers"
or players that are stifling their teams' playoff hopes with their lousy play. As you may have guessed, Orlando Cabrera is holding down the SS position on this team of dead weights:
"Shortstop: Orlando Cabrera (.230 TAv, 0.0 WARP), Reds The well-traveled 35-year-old, who shored up the Twins' infield at the deadline last summer, is showing his age. He's having his worst season ever with the bat (.252/.293/.339 in a hitter-friendly environment) , and his normally reliable glove work has been subpar (-8 FRAA) as well. As if all of that weren't bad enough, Dusty Baker has been batting him in the first or second spot in the lineup, the latest manifestation of an ongoing problem. Remedy (?):
As Kevin Goldstein pointed out on Monday, Triple-A shortstop Zack Cozart (.252 TAv) offers plus defense and surprising power to compensate for his own shortcomings in the on-base department. If the Reds want to look beyond their own organization, the Nationals' Cristian Guzman is hitting .296/.343/.368; he's got about $3.5 million remaining on his deal. The Diamondbacks' Stephen Drew (.266 TAv, 1.3 WARP) won't be a free agent until after 2012; he makes much less than Guzman and might be worth trading an actual prospect for a multi-season upgrade. As a bonus, the Reds could take advantage of Cabrera's reputation as a mid-season savoir and flip him to a team convinced he's still got those essential veteran herbs and spices."
Wait a minute, does Jay Jaffe not know who Paul Janish is?
Redleg Nation wants you to know just how good Logan Ondrusek as been
Since he was recalled from AAA on June 2nd: 20 games, 12 hits, 2 earned runs, 13 K, 3 BB, 0.96 ERA. That is a downright Rhodesian performance. I think every contender's bullpen (aside from perhaps the Padres) could use a new arm or two, but it's very comforting to know that this bullpen has some very strong points already.
This raised an eyebrow when I read it
Fay asked Homer Bailey if he would accept a relief role when he is ready to return and this was his response: "Whatever they want me to do," he said. "You’ve got to learn to make adjustments. I’ll do whatever they want me to." Homer's surliness is well-known 'round these parts, though "pride" may be a more appropriate word. It certainly surprised me to hear this. Dusty says they are conditioning him as a starter and I still think that should be the goal long-term, but coming off a shoulder injury it may be best for him to pitch from the 'pen down the stretch. It certainly would easy the logjam in the rotation. I'm sure we'll here more about this as he gets closer.
Kevin Goldstein runs down the 10 teams with the best shot at reaching the post season
and the Reds come in at #7.
"While the Reds continue to hope Aroldis Chapman can be a power lefty out of the pen by the end of the year, they also have a potential move in the middle of the infield that would take considerable guts. Orlando Cabrera is there for a reason, as he doesn't make mistakes defensively while making consistent contact, but at the same time his sub-.300 on-base percentage is another hole in a roller coaster of a Reds offense. Could Zach Cozart be the answer? He's likely no more of an on-base player than Cabrera, but he offers plus defense and surprising power for the position, with 13 home runs in 94 games at Triple-A Louisville."
What, has Goldstein never heard of Paul Janish either? Jeez lah-weeze!
The Fay is concerned with Jay Bruce's walk rate
"I’m not a hitting expert, but from where I sit, it seems that Jay Bruce’s success or lack thereof revolves around whether he’s taking walks or not. Bruce hasn’t driven in a run in the month of July. He’s also gone 36 at-bats without a walk. He’s struck out 12 times in that span. Until he stops chasing pitches, he’s not going to get strikes to hit."
Bruce did draw a walk yesterday and scored a run, but he's still looking kinda lost up there. Hopefully this is a darkness before the dawn.
Because we all know how much 'tHan loves it
here's a trade idea from Bleacher Report. Would you deal your starting RF for a relief pitcher? This idiot would!
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I'll say it again: Zack Cozart could come up today and outperform Lando
Then again, so could Janish. Also, Cozarts OBP would be better than they assume. He has shown an ability to walk the last 2 years, and he makes solid contact.
Having said that, I wouldn’t call him up. That’s too much pressure on the kid.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree with that to a point.
I’m much, much less concerned about his OBP and defense than I am about the fact that he has, is, and will be entrenched in the 2nd spot in the order. For instance, I love Ryan Hanigan to death, but how many walks does he take simply because teams pitch around him to get to the pitcher? Throw Lando in the 8th spot, and sure, he probably can barf up a .320 OBP or so. My point? Get him out of the 2nd spot, get someone more patient in there (Hanigan, Papa Smurf, the smaller one of the Petes from Pete & Pete, etc.), and banish him to the bottom of the order.
Could Cozart provide more potential to our offense, add some pop, and cover a bit more ground than Lando? Yeah, probably, but I’m just not sure he’d be the answer as the 2nd hitter in our lineup, and god knows that’s where he’d bat. Much like Stubbs, I don’t think Lando needs to be completed ditched, but he sure as hell needs out of the top of the order.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Cozart has hit 2 or 3 almost all year in AAA. He usually has Alonso, END, or Dorn behind him, so it’s not like guys have been pitching around him.
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by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know, but his OBP is still @ .325ish
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Compared to Lando's .295ish
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by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
AAAish
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is fair, but makes me think of a point of comparison:
Stubbs in AAA in 09: .268/.353/.360 in 472 PAs
Stubbs so far as a Red: .257/.323/.435 in 542 PAs (which, BTW, is a .338 wOBA…that’s right, Stubbs has been a slightly above average hitter in the bigs. Not just for CFers, but league wide)
Stubbs is kind of a weird case because he’s walking less and getting on base less as a Red but slugging a ton more. That usually doesn’t happen, but the reason I bring him up is Cozart is the same age now as Stubbs was when he was called up. Also, Cozart has a lot of other similarities with Stubbs: defensive first guys at a premium position, both drafted out of premier college programs and have spent a similar amount of time in the minors. Both started slowly with the bat but came on late in the higher minors. All that to say, I think that Cozart’s initial 500 or so PAs in the bigs will probably relate to his AAA numbers in a similar way. A bit less average and OBP but similar slugging.
Cozart’s line in AAA so far is: .265/.330/.450 in 415 PAs.
Would you take .250/.315/.440 from your SS with plus defense? I think it’s very possible Cozart could provide that right now.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I'd take that in a heartbeat from Cozart.
That said, I still don’t want .315 OBP batting second, and I think the slash line you put up above would be great from a guy batting 7th or so in the order.
BTW, Stephen Drew is OPSing right at .745 this year, and we’ve been begging for him, so if I could get that production from Cozart, you’re dern skippy I’d take it.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
true, but he's a career .768 OPS guy. His power has disappeared for some reason
And I’m by no means sure that Cozart could do that, I just think it’s very possible. In fact, it might be more likely for him than it was for Stubbs because he strikes out so much less than Stubbs did/does.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I agree with you on Cozart.
But if that’s the case, then damnit, who do we trade for with our pitching surplus?
We can’t be good, in a pennant race, loaded at a position other teams desire, and not make a trade.
My trade imbalance implores Walt to do some card shuffling…hence the “proposal” (albeit a tad of a reach) about Bruce.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
In the minors
Stubbs was told to work on his contact and patience. They were trying to make him into a conventional leadoff hitter.
I think now that he’s in the bigs, he’s reverted to the type of play that’s more natural for him: light-tower power, but strikes out a lot.
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shit, 22 steals!
Definitely had been overlooking that aspect. That’s, like, I dunno, projecting for at least 12 times going 1st to 3rd. That’s Cincinnati Reds material if I’ve ever seen it.
Bring him up!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
HAVOC on the basepaths is the deal clincher for me.
I was that kid in little league who never would stand on the base until the pitcher tried to pick me off and threw it in the bleachers.
That’s how I like my SS’s. Havocky.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i was the kid who stood on the base for like 30 minutes even though i had been picked off in protest of said pickoff call
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
I was the kid who intentionally got caught in a rundown to let the guy from 3rd score
and then would end up at third base because I’m just that beast.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
you use 'beast' as an adjective? You really are young!
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I think you mean you forgot to add the 'iality'
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by Slyde on Jul 20, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
I think you forgot to add the 'verb'
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
It ain't my perversion.
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I was going more for the Billy Madison "O'Doyle RULES!" joke
I dunno. Used to work with Doyel though, seemed like a decent dude.
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The comments in that bleacher report article are just as bad
“Joaquim Soria to Cincinnati for Jay Bruce and who else? Because there’s no chance the Royals pull this with just Bruce.”
Yes, exactly!
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
gawd
That’s hilarious.
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yeah
we should really stop linking to bleacher report. Seriously.
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but it's so entertaining
How about we link, but put a “no follow” tag on it?
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same guy, I believe
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I think they're waiting to get the final details of the Hanley trade made first
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I might, just "might"
Send Bruce for DeJesus, Soria, and $.
Might.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
DeJesus, Soria, and $$$$$$$?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If they paid the entire amount for the rest of Soria's option years...
Nope, still no
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by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Um...
Jay Bruce is still the Reds #1 prospect at 23 years old. He’s projected by statheads to be a top 15 (or 10?) player in baseball over the next 5 years. Jay Bruce and Joey Votto and Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez are my untouchables.
I know, I know. I like Jay too.
I’m just trying to find out what kind of player value you all place on him.
What would it take? Obviously, the answer is “more than a .320/.390/.450 affordable, locked up leadoff OF and an arb eligible lights-out closer.”
Throw in money, and that’s close to where I value Jay right now.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Soria isn't an arb player. He's got a long term deal. It's pretty team friendly, but still.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
did they buy him out early?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
DeJesus is 30. Bruce is 23.
Closers are overvalued.
Is projected to be the 10th best player in baseball in the next 5 years. You don’t trade him.
No. 10: OF Jay Bruce, Cincinnati (Age 23; Total projected WAR: 28.07; WAR Years 1-5: 5.2, 5.5, 5.7, 5.8, 5.8)
Let’s just say that we expect Bruce to improve upon his present MLB track record. Currently the holder of a .248/.322/.463 line (.337 wOBA) in 1073 plate appearances with the Reds, the right fielder has produced only 3.7 WAR in the three years since being labeled the game’s best prospect by Baseball America.
A prodigious hitter with huge power, a developed approach and a track record of success, Bruce was drafted by the Reds out of high school in 2005, the same year as Andrew McCutchen, and immediately established himself as an elite prospect. After killing the minors (his lowest wOBA at any stint was .393 at Hi Single-A in his debut season), Bruce came up to Cincinnati in 2008, but struggled due to a lack of contact and a propensity to swing-and-miss.
Bruce came back in 2009 and showed significant improvement in his approach as a hitter, but a .221 BABIP significantly suppressed his numbers, leaving him with a slightly below average .329 wOBA in 101 games. But few doubted Bruce’s ability even after two underwhelming seasons, and he’s showing signs of breaking out in 2010, with a .368 wOBA this season and a 1.3 WAR that already nearly matches his career-high from last season.
But our projections see a major breakout in Bruce’s near future, as we have the 23-year-old at 5.2 WAR in Year 1 of our projections. Considered a slightly above average defender, we project his bat to take a big step forward, with a +34 RAA in Year 1 compared to his +0.1 mark in 2009 with the Reds. And given his youth, we project continued improvement from his bat through all five seasons, even though his glove’s progressive decline prevents his value from taking truly massive steps in the right direction.
FWIW, Joey Votto was #22 on this list because he's in his prime now and will decline in 5 years.
Jay Bruce, on the other hand, will be the Joey Votto++ of the future.
These projections are already wrong, though, if Joey keeps up his pace
He’ll be a ~6 WAR guy this year.
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by crolfer on Jul 20, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
you're married!
You shouldn’t be checking out O.P.P.
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this is the same guy who said Marmol for Heisey was a done deal
I would think 2 bogus rumors would be the end of his BR career, I mean, even for them this is bad..
they have no standards
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they're not actually rumors, are they?
isn’t it just a dude with a keyboard and the mind of a 3rd grader making a post?
i.e. most of my fanposts?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
your fan posts are better than the Bleacher Report
by Eastwindquinn on Jul 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well thank you kindly.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
"Your STD isn't as bad as his STD"
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
that's more like it!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They're not real rumors, no.
It’s a guy claiming to have sources and claiming “MLB Trade Rumors” to dupe some people into thinking it’s from MLBTR.com.
This dude said it was just a wish, not a rumor in the comments.
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Is it out of the realm of possibility to try Stubbs batting earlier in the lineup again?
I know, I know… the strikeouts, but something can be said for beating out infield hits.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
They should have Billy Hatcher working everyday with Stubbs to add bunting to his repertoire
With his speed, he could be a world class bunter, if he could learn the skill. And a guy with his power who is also a serious threat to bunt…deadly.
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I agree. That would be a real throwback too. Like a Ricky Henderson.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
by Travis Rehl on Jul 20, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I also sorta hope that learning to bunt might cut down on strikeouts
Barry Bonds once described hitting like trying to catch the ball with the bat, which is basically what bunting is. Perhaps he can learn to be a better hitter if he can get better at following the ball all the way to the bat? Seems to me that his inability to make consistent contact is related to why he’s not a good bunter either.
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Ty Cobb was deadly with this in any situation.
No pun intended.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
by Travis Rehl on Jul 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually think what Dusty said about this a while ago was pretty accurate
He still has a fairly long swing, and instead of starting his swing and then holding back, sometimes it seems like he waits too long to decide whether to swing, then can’t catch up.
Coordination and seeing the ball better might play a role too. And I would love to see him become a good bunter.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i loved norris hopper...
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you're right. that's why your mom and i tried to have one together.
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by GrooveLeg on Jul 20, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seen on Lamebook
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by 'tHan on Jul 20, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's not the Ks as much as that he looks comfortable down there
Clearly he’s a better hitter down low, so I wouldn’t mess with it. BP has been great lately, should we move him back to cleanup?
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by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no, but there's not a sub-300 OBP batting 4th either
I wouldn’t move Stubbs up. I’d move Bruce up and tell him to focus on contact to all fields. Don’t worry about pulling the ball. Your power will do the rest eventually.
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by Slyde on Jul 20, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bruce at #2?
I’ve liked this idea for a while. Maybe not now since he’s slumptastic, but his OBP has been better than his power this year.
I'm no fan of a strict R/L/R/L order
but putting the only 2 lefties in our lineup back to back at 2 and 3 seems a bit odd, doesn’t it?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Joey doesn't see handedness
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He has this year
The Nats broadcast put up his splits and he’s been pretty bad against lefties. SSS I know
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by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's another stat on Votto.
When he leads an inning off, he’s hitting like .150. SSS, obviously, but Lando is pretty awesome at making the third out.
come on, why even bring it up if it has very little meaning?
Career vs L: .369 wOBA. I’m not worried about a platoon split on that guy.
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well, most of what I say here has very little meaning, so....
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by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and to further discredit myself, his BB and K rates have been identical against both, so, yeah. Joey is handblind
Not to be confused with JCH being handblind, which is something different entirely.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I hear ya.
I’m just cringing thinking about a lineup w/ 7 righties in a row…because that just means we’d see more and more daynce mix late in games.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I like.
The Diamondbacks’ Stephen Drew (.266 TAv, 1.3 WARP) won’t be a free agent until after 2012; he makes much less than Guzman and might be worth trading an actual prospect for a multi-season upgrade. As a bonus, the Reds could take advantage of Cabrera’s reputation as a mid-season savoir and flip him to a team convinced he’s still got those essential veteran herbs and spices.
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
I honestly believe.....
that this organization has all the parts it needs to win this year, But i am still afraid management will not use them correctly because it goes against some Old-School Baseball religion bullshit that I don’t understand.
I trust Walt
I don’t trust Dusty, but I tolerate him. I trust Walt unconditionally at this point.
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by Slyde on Jul 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if the average age of our Bullpen reaches 35?
by Eastwindquinn on Jul 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Age is just a number when it comes to bullpens
I’ll only dislike it if a clearly worse pitcher takes over for an effective one. I don’t care about their age.
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I am Worried about the Springer signing, and Izzy
The only Player in the Bullpen I want to see go is Masset, and I just think we have a few options in the system to replace him, (one of our 10 headed starter core, or if ernie or Chapman really get their heads on straight).
by Eastwindquinn on Jul 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Here are some reasons not to.
9.8 K/9. Career 3.96BB/9, which is up this year and we can expect to regress. Also, his career was trending toward less walks until this year, which I expect to correct itself.
BABIP is .359, a .109 jump from last year and nearly .045 jump from his career average. His HR/FB % is up 3% for some reason (I dunno why). Could indicate some bad luck.
Regardless, his xFIP is 3.9 and projections see him as a decent reliever for the rest of the year. He probably shouldn’t be a setup guy, but he isn’t a throwaway.
dunno about ernie, but im hopeful on burton
when rosters expand, we’re gonna be bad-ass
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I just love how much pitching we have right now.
Maloney, Wood, Leake, Volquez, Cueto.. all under 27 and 4 of them are at least 3rd starters with Volky and Cueto possessing near-ace potential.
Jordan Smith and EDR are both valuable ground-ball assets, even if EDR didn’t show it when he was up.
Ondrusek has been awesome. Bray has been serviceable. Arthur is Arthur. Masset, IMO, will have a strong second half as he’s due for a bit of regression.
Throw in Bailey, Harang, and Arroyo, and you’ve got yourself a ton of fucking pitching.
i think bray will be the best reliever down the stretch, fwiw
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I don't know about the BEST, but I agree he's going to be very useful
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
I think what it comes down to
Is that a.) Springer is an innings eater and will help save some of our young bullpen arms for the stretch run. I don’t see him making the playoff roster unless he really turns some heads in the next two months and b.) Izzy, at this point, hasn’t signed and may not depending on what the scouts say after taking a look at him. Either way it’s a win/win, if he looks good you sign him for cheap and he helps your bullpen produce. His upside is a huge question mark and he may actually return to being some fraction of the Izzy of old, which would be pretty damn good. If he looks like shit, well then you’re no worse off than before. I’d personally like to have another veteran in the bullpen, but that’s me.
by HalMorrisHasALazyBat on Jul 20, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I doubt Walt will send a guy down just because he’s young.
I believe in Ondrusek, but Smith is still a huge ? and it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Springer got his innings. Still, I think Burton deserves the first shot.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
May no one ever say Charlie Scrabbles isn't a man of his word
Thanks, Charlie! Now, Fruit Rollup party at my house!
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by boobs on Jul 20, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
yeah jeez 'tHan
what kinda cheapskate do you take me for? i buy only the fresh fruit roll ups for my stupid internet bets.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
get your own fruit roll ups
boobs cleaned me out.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
whether or not Votto would make the All-Star team
i figured Manuel would take his boy Howard instead, but i forgot about the fan vote.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
and you would have gotten a fruit roll up
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
since you like betting against your own team
i’ll bet you a box of fruit roll ups that tOSU beats Miami!
Paul Keels was just on the radio talking about that
44 days until kickoff, of something like that.
and i didnt bet against Joey, i bet on Manuel being a dumbass. turns out, i was right! unfortunately for me, i forgot there were other avenues for Joey.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
BP getting some ESPN lovin'
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=5394469
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
More off-field arguments for Lando presented
The Reds did themselves and Phillips a favor in February when they signed shortstop Orlando Cabrera to a one-year deal. Cabrera was a regular in Montreal when Phillips broke in with the Expos’ organization, so he’s comfortable enough to take the initiative when Phillips reverts to his immature ways. Cabrera makes his points forcefully enough for Phillips to listen, and subtly enough not to put a dent in Phillips’ self-confidence. Although Phillips can go overboard at times, the Reds know he’s a better player when he’s got his swagger.
“I care what’s said about him,” Cabrera said. “I know his father and his mother, and his father always told me, ‘Get him straight,’ and I’m gonna get him straight. That’s the way it is.”
As I’ve argued before, you take Cabrera out of the everyday lineup and you take away any authority he has in the clubhouse. You may argue that its more important to have a shortstop that can get on base and I might agree with you, but its pretty clear that the Reds like having OCab around.
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and by all accounts
Phillips has been having the best season of his career…
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can still have this
and Let Janish start 3 times a week.
by Eastwindquinn on Jul 20, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly,
Who was it that proposed one start for Janish at SS, and one at 3B to give OCab and Scottie a day off each? How is that not reasonable?
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.
Hal.
The writer, not the evil computer.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 20, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The evil computer would probably agree as well!
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.
Yeah, this whole discussion about replacing Cabrera is a waste of time.
He’s not going anywhere. But then you got all Phil Simms douchey on us with the “As I’ve argued before. . .”
by Brian B on Jul 20, 2010 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have argued it before
…. once before to be exact. I’m not sure if I convinced myself with that argument, but I made it anyway just to try and get a handle on why OCab remains our SS.
Now, if one is going to go douchey, then Phil Simms douchey is as douchey as it gets.
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Good article.
Phillips is active in charity work and popular in the community, and has a charisma that resonates with the populace. He’s likable and intelligent, with or without the bravado.
See! He’s likable!
by the finest muffins on Jul 20, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolen and Cabrera
I think that if the Reds manage to win the division,or clinch a wild card, it will be in no small part to Janish. Cabrera needs time off, so let Janish play 1-2 games a week at short. Rolen is a gamer but he also could use some rest. Let the kid play a game a week at 3rd. I think we would all be pleasantly surprised at the out come.
Rob Dibble, Norm Charlton, and Randy Myers were nasty boys. Arthur Rhodes is a nasty MAN. by Brendanukkah
that 'tHan IS pretty impressive.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
similarly
it’s a word ’than is often associated with “less”
“wand was LESS than impressive.”
Janish is like Nixon’s political career…..you’re pretty sure after his loss of the 62 California governor race that he’s done; he’s proved what he is. Yet, there he is again with a whole new cast of believers as soon as you turn around
he was 'than impressive?
Now that is legit(imate).
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Janish OPSed .624 as a starter after the Gonzo trade. Cabrera's OPS is .630.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
So, the slumping Cabrera's is still higher???
Everyday we have this discussion of which .600 OPSing guy would play short. let’s talk about who something else, because .600 OPS guys just plain suck
well, if you have to make a choice though man, can you just accept janish
he’s hitting better right now and he plays better defense by a mile.. this isn’t tough
i agree that it’s not worth talking about, but cabrera sucks
But we're not looking for defense, we're looking for offensive help
That’s not Janish
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Cabrera's glove has cost us wins on defense.
Also, Janish is opsing really high in his SSS this year, thus, he should play more. You lose nothing on offense while gaining defense. This isn’t hard. Stephen Drew is ideal, but Janish is better than Cabrera.
His defense has cost us wins?
Sure – just like his offense early on probably won us some games too.
But the point is that defense isn’t the problem right now with the Reds – it’s the offense. Too many 1 run games. No matter how good our pitching is – and it is good – eventually you need to put up some offense against some of the game’s better pitchers
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
if one guy is better than another, it doesnt matter if the runs come from defense or offense. the better guy should be playing
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
by boobs on Jul 20, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would hope we're getting our runs from offensive production
In that case I’d go with Ocab if it’s between him and Janish
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Yeah, I get that
I just don’t see that as a problem right now, but whatever…we disagree – so what?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
we're not disagreeing
im trying to get across that it doesnt matter if one thing is more of a problem than another. Our starting pitching is awesome, but if we could replace, say, arroyo with josh johnson, it would make us better. obviously thats an extreme case, and janish is not the josh johnson of shortstops (im not even convinced he’s better overall than cabrera). im just saying, it doesnt matter what we’re lacking right now. If one guy’s better than another, he should be playing in place of the inferior player.
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
Right, ok
How do we know Janish is better than Ocab? I mean defensively – sure, it’s probably not even close. But offensively – that seems to be a toss up, right? And the Reds have a problem sometimes generating runs (not necessarily preventing them) and I don’t think Janish’s bat is better than Ocab’s. Hell – maybe in the grand scheme of things a SS offensive power doesn’t mean squat. In that case, sure stick in Janish.
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I think it's quite obvious
that once he reaches his 170 inning max, that Mike Leake should be our SS for the remainder of the season.
He can outhit and outfield both of those clowns you guys were talking about. Pshh.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
no. he sucked last year and the Reds ain't changing horses in mid-stream
I am on record noting that it would nice to let him play more often, but everyday is just filled with smart people arguing the solution to a lack of offense at SS is a guy who demonstrably cannot hit.
I just want to talk about something else. NYC and Charlie have a million things to offer that are interesting, especially NYC with his knowledge of the minors (see the Cozart discussion above) and I wish we’d talk about…..something else….
I’m not even sure what.
how about this, I will just start skipping the “we need janish” debates. I am apparently shouting into the wind and making myself even more disliked than usual (I’ll it to others to discuss if that’s even possible). Just remember me when you submit the comment “Janish is the answer” that I am rolling my eyes at the triumph of frustration (with Cabrera) over reason
I think it's more tugging on Superman's cape
than (shouting) into the wind.
Either way, point well taken.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what the parenthesis were supposed to be for.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
there aint nothin' like a friend
who can tell ya yer just pissin’ in the wind
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
FTR, I don't believe he's the answer either. But also FTR, you often come across as being of the opinion that Janish has no worth or value, which probably turns some people against you.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
You're right
I think the kid should - at the very least- be the LIDR for Cabrera. I also believe he should be starting a couple times a week because he plays better defense.
Still, much like Slyde, i will abstain from this in the future. I’d rather not have a public vote on whether I’m too lame and annoying not to be tolerated
let's have a public vote
is timb too lame and annoying to be tolerated?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well, we tolerate you, so I guess the answer is no
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But since we are voting, I vote yes.
Janish is the answer.
by Brian B on Jul 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not always
in 1944, St Louis’ Marty Marion won the NL MVP despite a .686 OPS. The writers at the time said it was because he was worth at least 110 FRAR.
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
not this year. And why do you hate a guy who might be the best defensive shortstop in the league? That most decidedly does not suck.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
You know what Bruce needs to do?
Break his wrist again. Wasn’t he in a terrible slump this time last year before he got hurt? Then there were all those articles this year about how it allowed him to cool off and re-focus.
So…….
CLARIFICATION: I’m not really being serious.
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Can't we just trade for Dunn
I want him back just because I do, damnit.
Also, Bruce will get extremely hot starting this Friday in Houston. You heard it here first.
better than the Yanks
not quite as good as the Sawks.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
if the White Sox are going to trade for Dunn
it’d be awfully nice of them to do it before tonight’s game. That Nats lineup would be a tad more appealing if the Big Donk wasn’t in the middle of it.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
ESPN, SI, and CBSSports
all doing non-recap front page stories on the Reds today.
I’ll be leaving you guys now. Got to head to my bomb shelter since obviously the Apocalypse is upon us.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda eerie
“So let’s see: the highest scoring team in the league, ace starter and 102-mph lefty reliever riding to the rescue, a cupcake schedule . . . yep, the Reds are here to stay.”
We need to be careful though.
Cupcakes make you fat.
Or complacent.
Or something.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Jul 20, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FTFY
Cupcakes Wedding cakes make you fat.
Or complacent.
Or something
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
Content, happy, amazed, positive,lucky,renewed, exuberant, and thankful...maybe?
Though some might argue that "best utility player" is a contradiction in terms.
BuubaFan...
I was just being daft, old chap
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
How many of the pieces are titled:
“Seeing Red”
or “Red October?”
Lame ass journalism . . .
by Brian B on Jul 20, 2010 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't realize the Reds were leading the wild card race.
Half game out of the division, half game up in the wild card? I’m having flashes of ’99!
by the finest muffins on Jul 20, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hot flashes?
"Yeah, yeah, that's what we do in Cincinnati, we go first to third baby!"-Brandon Phillips.
To relive the glory of the 1994 season all over again
The Reds are having Candlebox sing Take Me Out to the Ballgame at tonight’s game. Seriously.
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12 here as well
we’re medium!
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Freshman year of college
Damn.
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
heh
i was even being generous. i was only in 3rd or 4th grade.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
What was their ‘hit’ single? I keep hearing collective soul songs when I start thinking about candlebox for some reason
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
It was "You"
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
It was "Far Behind"
which peaked at #18 on the Hot 100. “You” only made it to #78.
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Oh, I think I got them confused
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
IIRC "You" was the first single
But “Far Behind” was the more popular song. They rocked a mid-’90s NBA All-Star Jam with it, playing the role of the dorky white guy in the rap video quite well.
he's not just a baseball researcher, he's a crap 90s music researcher too!
Ask him anything about Stone Temple Pilots….go on, ask him!
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
yeah
ask him if he wants to run through your Wicked Garden and see what he says.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Slyde gets quotes on SI.com too?
You are getting way too famous
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
posted too soon
“The Skyline Cheese Coney is a Cincinnati original. What makes it unique is the finely ground ‘Cincinnati Style’ chili that contains a touch of cocoa. The spiciness of the chili is balanced by the massive pile of cool shredded cheddar cheese that tops it off. Add mustard or onions if you choose, and have your very own Queen City staple.”— Joel Luckhaupt, Red Reporter
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
Wow. Other ballparks have waaaay more interesting food than GABP.
by the finest muffins on Jul 20, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't get to pick the food I described
They asked me to describe cheese coneys. I probably would have picked funnel fries, but yeah, nothing at GABP is all that original or interesting.
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cheese coneys are definitely original. I don't know about 'interesting' but you can't find Skyline type chili anywhere else.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
on the contrary
cincinnati style chili is pretty interesting for people outside cincinnati. I never had it until the past couple years, and it was eye-opening.
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
not to mention colon-opening too
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Jul 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that Skyline's interesting.
But I’m not sure anything else at the ballpark goes beyond traditional ballpark fare.
by the finest muffins on Jul 20, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What's wrong with Atlanta?
A chicken patty served between two waffles. Now that’s just weird.
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Lou Pinella announced today he's retiring after this season
Godspeed you crazy old bastard.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
MLB should officially cement the bases into the ground
so that none shall be allowed to throweth a base like Sweet Lou ever again.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The cubs finally did him in
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I like to remind my Cub fan friends
…. that we won a World Series with him.
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Icon from the glory days
ur doin it rong
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Just had the person across from me look at me funny
Thanks buddy.
"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000
Janish is starting tonight!
7/20 Reds Lineup
Cabrera SS
Janish 2B
Votto 1B
Gomes LF
Bruce RF
Cairo 3B
Stubbs CF
Miller C
Mike Leake P
Ugliest lineup of the year, easily.
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thats like an august 2009 lineup
but leake is pitching, so we’ll win 2-1
Retractions are for journalists! -Gray
Agreed. Dusty hates Leake and Wood. He always gives those guys the worst lineups
So BP needs a day off but the old man plays every day?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Remember the convo we had the other day?
When I heard the term “butt salad,” this lineup card is immediately what popped in my head.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 20, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Leake should hit 1st or 2nd in this lineup
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
if i had to make a lineup with these players i might have had stubbs lead off.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
if i had only these 9
i would bat Votto lead off. he likely wont have runners on base for him anyway, so why not get him the most possible ABs?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 20, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
even better... how's this?
votto
leake
bruce
gomes
stubbs
janish
cairo
miller
cabrera
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
Is Phillips hurting?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
He's had that hamstring/calf problem for a while now.
Maybe he tweaked it a bit yesterday?
by RedsMasochist on Jul 20, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Strasburg is really all that
…. we could lose two games in this series. And that would be a crime. This line-up is horrendous.
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yes but so are the nationals
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
Which is why it would be a crime to give away a game tonight.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
Ugliest lineup?!
I know BP brings the handsome quite well, but Janish is a perfectly adequate replacement in that department. And Miguel Cairo may be more good-looking than Scott Rolen. There’s not much that can be done at catcher, but at least Laynce Nix isn’t in the outfield looking like a robot football player/wrestler who will crush flowers and small children under his feet with an inarticulate grunt.
by the finest muffins on Jul 20, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
for the excellent tigrmetric analysis.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I said "may." I'm not really sure.
Miguel Cairo does have a very friendly face.
by the finest muffins on Jul 20, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What, you mean like coal?
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.
by andromache on Jul 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I bet you know all about clean coal,
mr. kensmassey
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.
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