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Red Reposter - What to Do with Jay Bruce?

Red Reposter's Random Number-Related Gag will not be seen at its regularly-scheduled time this morning due to lack of creativity.  - 6/30 - The last day Jay Bruce collected a run batted in.  It also happens to be the last day Aaron Harang pitched. 

  • Jay Bruce is not doing well
    For July, his slash is .140/.189.220. Good grief. He got the day off yesterday, but pinch-hit in the 7th and struck out ugly. He swung at strike three up in his eyes. Woof. "His swing is off some," Baker said. "I wanted to give him (a day off) before it turns to frustration, which is pretty close to where he is right now. It’s so close. He feels it. Probably the epitome of frustration was when they took that home run away from him." Going into the season, many RRs predicted the Reds' offense would be predicated on Bruce's performance. If he were to breakout as many had hoped, the Reds might make some noise. Baseball is a funny game like that. Bruce has been fine this season, hitting around league-average, yet the team offense is one of the best in the league. Get well soon, Jay.

    In a related matter, Thom and Cowboy were floating the idea of platooning Bruce down the stretch.  They argued that he has had plenty of time to learn how to hit lefties and he's failed to do so.  Chris Heisey has been playing very well in sparse playing time and should take the starts in RF against lefties.  Bruce's career slash against lefties is an unspectacular .211/.291/.332.  As a minor leaguer though he had little trouble against south paws, slashing .290/.352/.522.  And let's not forget the most important thing about Bruce: he's only 23.  He's only 4 days older than Yonder Alonso and he's over a year younger than Todd Frazier.  Those guys were our top prospects going into the season.  He still has plenty of time to develop and the worst thing you could do right now is curtail his opportunities.  It's easy to forget just how young he is because he's been around for over 2 years, but just because he got here early doesn't mean he should be a finished product already.  Sure, it stinks that he's slumping and we're in the middle of a pennant race, but he's still playing like an above-average major leaguer so far this season (he's collected 1.4 WAR thus far according to FanGraphs).  He looks hopeless now, but he'll snap out of it.  Development takes patience.

  • It was a huge weekend at GABP
    Friday night, Hammer was implored to refrain from injuring them, Saturday was the Reds Hall of Fame induction ceremony for Tony Mullane, Pedro Borbon, and Chris Sabo, and Sunday Laynce Nix started in RF. The induction ceremony was pretty special, as Sabo and Borbon gave acceptance speeches on the field before the game (Mullane, a pitcher in the 1890s, was unable to attend due to being dead). "Obviously I'll never get into Cooperstown," Sabo joked, "but the Reds Hall of Fame is very special. ... It's probably the last thing I'm ever going to get in baseball, so I'm going to take it for all it's worth."

  • In case you missed the MC Hammer concert at the game on Friday
    OMGreds has some video. He hasn't aged as well as Eric Davis.

  • Hall o' Famer Hal has heard the cries from the Red Reporter masses
    and he empathizes with our pleas. From 'Ask Hal':
    Q While I love and admire the playing style of Jonny Gomes and the raw ability of Drew Stubbs, isn’t it about time Chris Heisey saw more starts? — Pat, Troy
    A That wouldn’t bother me at all, especially after seeing what Heisey is capable of doing and how both Gomes and Stubbs are prone to slip into offensive funks. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to give Gomes and Stubbs a different day off each week and permit Heisey to start twice a week. I’d like to see Paul Janish start a game a week at third and a game a week at short, giving Scott Rolen and Orlando Cabrera a day off each week. But the last time I looked at my job description, I didn’t see anything that said, "Part-Time Manager, Cincinnati Reds."

  • MLBtraderumors is reporting that former Cardinals closer Jason Isringhausen will audition for the Reds tomorrow
    Izzy is recovering from Tommy John surgery, which he had last June. I have absolutely no problem signing up old relievers like this in hopes that they still have a bit left in the tank. Realistically, I don't think neither he nor Russ Springer will contribute much to our pennant chase, but all it costs to find out is money. Finding quality relievers for the home stretch is a crapshoot anyway, so I'd rather drop a few hundred grand on guys like Izzy and trade prospects for them.

  • Injury news
    Ramon Hernandez is eligible to return from the disabled list on Tuesday, but he'll likely get a few more days. You know Dusty's "better safe than sorry" policy on not bringing players off the DL when they are ready, but rather a few days after they are ready. This works really well in tandem with his "never put Orlando Cabrera on the DL" policy. I would expect Ramon back with the team before the weekend.

  • As for Homer Bailey and Aaron Harang
    Homer threw a bullpen on Sunday and if everything goes well he could threw a sim game on Wednesday. If that goes well, he'll go on a rehab assignment for 3 or 4 games.

    "That's a big thing because when you have periodic setbacks, typically it's representative of something a little bit more significant being a problem," (pitching coach Bryan) Price said. "He progressed as we expected, actually a little better than we expected, so we're hoping this is the next step in the progress to getting back into games." As for Harang, they aren't rushing him. "There's just no reason, especially with a back problem, to try to create a sense of urgency for him to get back on the field simply because with the back you just can't pitch," Price said. "The back is debilitating, let's put it that way." Luckily, they can afford to take their time with both of these guys. Even without these guys they have 6 or 7 decent starters to hold down the fort, so they should make sure they are good ready before bringing them back.

  • Here's a really thoughtful piece on Scott Rolen and his off-the-field charitiable exploits
    "My brother, Todd, and I came up with the idea of building a camp for children and their families for a week," Rolen said. "To have fun, have a blast. Let's play...It's for the kid walking home from school, head down, kicking stones. He may be healthy, but maybe mom is sick, or his father. It's for kids who have spent too much time in the hospital." This Rolen fella...is he for real?

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Reds could financially benefit

if they were to option Bruce for 2 weeks. That could drop him out of Super-2 Status. I’m sure it wouldn’t be a popular decision in the clubhouse, but they need to figure something out for the kid. He has too much talent to be so wildly inconsistent.

The Platoon idea could work, but Heisey is striking out about as much as Stubbs. I still think the Reds need to find an OF bat.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 19, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Bruce would be PISSED

that’s a minor-league move for a Schott-Allen-Lindner administration. Fuck that noise.

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by Cy Schourek on Jul 19, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has to be off the roster for over 20 days to stop is clock

and then, at that point he would need to be down for a few days to make sure he falls out of super 2. It’s not a good strategy.

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by Slyde on Jul 19, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, it sounds like the players union is pretty pissed off about the super 2 abuse

we don’t need more fuel for the next labor agreement fire. it’s coming up at the end of 2011.

by Daedalus on Jul 19, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing there won't be a big fire in 2011

Both owners and players seem fairly satisfied with the status quo.

I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.

by justin007000 on Jul 19, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but the reds are getting good

it’s about time for them to get ripped off by another strike.

by Daedalus on Jul 19, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 94 strike did hurt this team

they were in playoff contention that year, and nobody paid attention to the 95 team.

I am thrilled for your success, hell I'm amazed by it. Nobody who knows you saw this coming.

by justin007000 on Jul 19, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and more importantly, he showed 3 years ago that he has nothing left to learn/prove in AAA.

He needs to be here.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Ramon Hernandez told Dan from OMGReds last night that he will be back in the lineup on Tuesday. Also said that he’s looking forward to facing Stephen Strasburg.

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by Slyde on Jul 19, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like a bit of player hubris to me

Even if they activate him I seriously doubt he starts both Tues and Weds

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is Bill Pulsipher the next to audition?

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...

by btcoop71 on Jul 19, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

they tried to squeeze him into the schedule

but apparently Todd Worrell’s took too long.

hopefully we’ll get pulsed by Wednesday.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hal for manager!

As for Bruce…how about giving him some actual time off? A “working day off” didn’t seem to help much.

Dusty seems to think the young guys don’t need rest, but I don’t buy that. Maybe they don’t need as much rest as Scott Rolen, but they do need rest. The old guys get scheduled days off. Stubbs has gotten regular days off, perhaps because Dusty doesn’t mind not having him in the lineup. Votto got almost a week off with that neck problem. But Bruce hasn’t had a day off all season.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

So I'm sure tHom and Cowboy want to platoon Bruce

But think Gomes should play everyday

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 11:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

dude, gomes almost has twice as many RBIs as bruce.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jul 19, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Gomes leads the league in hitting with runners in scoring position

‘Cause he cares more, I guess. Jay just doesn’t care if he gets a hit with runners on

by timb116 on Jul 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm gonna be on TV!

Erardi and I will be on channel 9 today at 12:40. If you are a loser at home, like me usually, check it out!

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by Slyde on Jul 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't get drunk and beat up the anchor

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Jul 19, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why Slyde is no longer allowed on my schooner

"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000

by jch24 on Jul 19, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have joint custody with Bronson?

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.

by andromache on Jul 19, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, "Schooner"

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat!

"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000

by jch24 on Jul 19, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

A schooner is a sailboat stupid head

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jul 19, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful for Wed - i'll be busy

I’m just south in Arlington. I could go either today or Tues if anyone is going to be there. I’ve never been to Momos

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jul 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

was just there saturday

not going until wednesday. it would violate my beer-only-once-a-week-excluding-weekends policy i’ve established for the summer to help my travel budget for september.

by Daedalus on Jul 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drats

Oh well, another time

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jul 19, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what? THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY! Over there, that's just a guy in a suit!

"so there was a reason firefox said i spelled that wrong" -- justin007000

by jch24 on Jul 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about

sending a Drew Sutton or a mid-level prospect to Cleveland for Austin Kearns? Kearns making less money, could help protect Bruce against tough LHP? He still plays good defense and has enough pop to spell Gomes and Bruce in the lineup and not have to sacrifice much offense.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 19, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Why would we do that when we already have Heisey

Who seems to do everything better than Kearns anyway?

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just throwing it out there

more as a bench upgrade over Nix. Not trying to say start him everyday.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 19, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree with that, except I think they want a LH outfielder on the bench. Which is probably not a bad idea.

Dickerson has looked good in his rehab so far. I’m going to stay cautiously hopeful that if/when he is ready they drop Nix in favor of Dickerson.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all the Janish love on this board, we should start an actual petition to free Chris Heisey

Either send him down or play him several times a week. As Charlie noted above, you don’t learn by not playing (that may be a paraphrase). Janish does a half a ballplayer’s job well, while, it appears, Heisey might do the whole thing. Let’s get some “Free Heisey” bumper stickers and cover Dusty’s car in them

by timb116 on Jul 19, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

those kind of outfielders will open up in August

that’s the time to pick up 25th men.

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by Cy Schourek on Jul 19, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suttons Bat...

Should be on the Bench instead of Nix.

by Eastwindquinn on Jul 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sutton

Is hardly playing in AAA.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 19, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Development takes patience.

There’s no patience in a pennant race, Charlie. Let him learn to lefties next year. As you noted, he’s got time to learn. On the other hand, the Reds don’t have time to lose.

Maybe, Dusty should platoon him until he gets his confidence back and then he can start playing everyday again

by timb116 on Jul 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Bruce, even for his slumps and trouble against lefties,

is still a very good and useful player. i would work on replacing Cabrera, Gomes, and bolstering the ’pen before i worry about Jay Bruce.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 19, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that assessment, except as we know Orlando isn't going anywhere

I just mildly disagreed with the notion that the Reds should put up with a hole in the line up, because Jay is learning how to hit lefties at this level (which you and I both believe he can and will do)

by timb116 on Jul 19, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you're talking about maybe 5-8 plate appearances a week. You figure a replacement might get 1-2 extra hits a week in that span (maybe)

whereas with Cabrera and Gomes you are talking about 20-24 PAs a week of mediocre performance (plus the defensive issues)

I think giving Heisey 2 of Gomes’ starts and giving Janish 1 of Cabrera’s certainly couldn’t hurt, and would likely make a decent difference over the course of the rest of the season.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cabrera

has looked very good since the break. Maybe Dusty will be smart enough to realize if he sits Cabrera in favor of Janish a day or 2 a week then Cabrera will be a much better player with the rest.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 19, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder if a frozen rope from right to home to nail a tagging baserunner would get his confidence up...

bruce is going to be streaky this early in his career but as long as he brings the Howitzer and the chance of knocking one out of the park everyday he’s good enough to bat 6th everyday for me.

what about platooning bruce with gomes and letting Hi-Z play everyday (gomes would play LF on the days he’s in for bruce, heisey in RF)?

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jul 19, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is funny

This was a comment on the MLB Trade Rumors story about Izzy:

aap212 26 minutes ago

A guy who was systematically destroyed as a youngster by Dallas Green really wants to come out of retirement to pitch for the Reds? The second he lays eyes on Izzy in the clubhouse, Dusty Baker will hear a sinister Mortal Kombat voice saying, “Finish him.”

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...

by btcoop71 on Jul 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

Maybe as a team-building activity, they could have a “Jo(h)nny Cage Match,” with Gomes vs. Cueto.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 19, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Urban Meyer may want to take another siesta

Oops

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...

by btcoop71 on Jul 19, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I've got an idea for a reality show.

The idea is pretty simple. You take Ice T’s wife Coco and put her in midwestern towns. You have her made up and dressed as she normally is, and you have her walk the dog down a city street. The point of the show is to record the reactions of people as she walks by. She is basically a cartoon character and I would love to see the kinds of looks she gets from people that don’t know who she is.

by 'tHan on Jul 19, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

i like it...

she should also do silly walks

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jul 19, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

it could be a combo with "world's worst driver"

you could have her walk down sidewalks from Des Moine to Tulsa, and see how many wrecks she causes.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh one more day and it would have been Leake vs. Strasburg

It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein

by Travis Rehl on Jul 19, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, but I actually like Arroyo against him

If there’s anybody on the staff who won’t be intimidated or get wrapped up in the hype, it’s him. I’d love to see him pitch a CG shutout and beat Strasburg 1-0.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but that means we'd have to score.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I hope our offense goes buckwild on them. Like that Cubs game that time.

It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein

by Travis Rehl on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Juan Castro released.

He can’t hit, but maybe there is a spot for this consummate classy guy as a fielding instructor for the RedLegs.

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Jul 19, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Him and Cairo can have a battle royale for the final roster spot

Sadly, Janish will not be allowed to fight…..

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...

by btcoop71 on Jul 19, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

my laptop fried

so I haven’t read much of the news today. I just saw, though, that Rolen is out of the lineup again with hamstring problems—that is not what I wanted to hear. It’s also gross that he got sick like that.

We’re in a very dangerous spot right now. We can’t let disease and injury trash this home series.

by Red_Poodle on Jul 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

No Rolen is definitely a bummer.

But I don’t really feel like panicking just yet. Being shut out yesterday was embarrassing, sure. And there are definitely weaknesses on this team. But I don’t get all the doom and gloom and “dangerous spot” talk. What’s making people think yesterday’s loss is more indicative of the team’s tendencies than the two wins? Especially when the next three teams they’re playing aren’t nearly as good as Philadelphia and Colorado.

by the finest muffins on Jul 19, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to become concerned with the Jeckell/Hyde nature of the offense

There have been a lot of games where the offense just doesn’t show up, it seems.

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by jch24 on Jul 19, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

oy vey

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by jch24 on Jul 19, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what concerns me

and three 1-0 losses in about a week

by Red_Poodle on Jul 19, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most shutouts AND most runs scored? That seems inefficient.

But I’m still not panicking. For no reason I can articulate, I think it’s more likely Travis Wood keeps pitching well than we see a starting lineup with Nix, Miller, and Cairo again any time soon.

by the finest muffins on Jul 19, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame Nix more than Cairo

maybe because he looks like a bodybuidler and can’t hit for as much power as Cairo

by Red_Poodle on Jul 19, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say dangerous spot

because we are at a point in the season where a losing streak could lead to some serious distance between us and the Cardinals while they are playing well. They haven’t won this many in a row all season I don’t think.

by Red_Poodle on Jul 19, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've won 67% of the games. if that continues, I imagine the reds will be okay

There certainly was a panic on the Game recap thread, but, seriously, it’s okay

by timb116 on Jul 19, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW there is nothing wrong with Bruce that a little discipline at the plate won't cure.

Though some might argue that "best utility player" is a contradiction in terms.
BuubaFan...

by Madville on Jul 19, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Commitment

I think Jay needs to get with Votto and work on his pitch selection. Lately it looks as though Jay has been swinging at what ever he’s giving and trying to guess too much. If you watch Joey he sits in the box, he’s patient, and watches every pitch from the second it leaves the pitchers hand till it hits the glove of the catcher. He waits until he gets his pitch, or a walk. Jay needs to learn this and quit swinging the bat at everything. I know he is desperate to get a hit. Anyways this a good team this year and Jay is a part of it. I hope they stick with him. I live in Louisville and get to watch Frazier, Francisco and Alonso alot. They are awesome and if I was going to pull one of those guys up I would switch them out with a heisey.

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