Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Diego Sanchez and the Dangers of Fame in MMA

Red Reposter - Is This Team More Like 1990 or 2006?

Lefty Smurf and the rest of the bullpen gang better clean it up soon.  If they can't, we may end up trading Jay Bruce and Orlando Cabrera for David Aardsma.

Red Reposter's Chocolate Frosty Numbers, sponsored exclusively with limited commercial interruption by the Dairy Queen Blizzard Mobile.  Dairy Queen's Blizzard Mobile:  it is exactly what you think it is, and it is every bit as incredible as you dreamed it would be.  - .661 -  Orlando Cabrera's OPS since moving to the lead-off spot.  The Reds are 16-9 in that stretch.  Brandon Phillips' OPS in that stretch is .856, Scott Rolen's is 1.012, Drew Stubbs' is .916, and Joey Votto's is 1.069.  So while it's true that the Reds are winning with Lando leading off, it's always important to remember that correlation does not necessarily mean causation.

  • The bullpen was rejiggered on Monday
    but The Fay is still not confident. Arthur Rhodes, Bad Motherf*****, is the only one out there getting consistent outs. Fay suggests Aroldis Chapman could help, but I'd rather he pitch in the rotation in Louisville. He still has a thing or two to learn. I wouldn't mind if he were put in the 'pen in September, but not now. Edinson Volquez is another intriguing suggestion. He likely won't be ready until the end of July at the earliest, but I am all for him making his triumphant return as a high-leverage fireman. joshuar9476 thinks David Weathers is a possible solution.  I think he's an idiot :) 

    I think we should put our faith in the current crop for now, hoping that Masset can get his groove back, Coco can be better than so-so, and the back-end fellas can hold down the fort. This crop of bullpenners is far better than the guys we had in '06, so I don't think we need to panic. If by the end of the month it is still not working out, there will be a number of good bullpen arms on the trade market by then. Do you think Pedro Martinez would sign on as a set-up man?

  • Mark "The Snail" Sheldon says this Reds team looks different than those of recent vintage
    He never really says why, but I totally believe him. "The biggest thing with this team is we make adjustments to adversity and the little stuff," said Reds starting pitcher Aaron Harang. "We're not dependent on one or two guys. We have a large group of guys -- young players and older players. Everybody kind of feeds off each other, talks back and forth. Every night, it's someone different chipping in." Harang has been around for quite a while (he is the longest tenured Red) so he's seen quite a bit of bad Cincy baseball. I'll take his word that this team is different. If anyone were in position to make that juxtaposition, I would trust Harang's volition.

  • Slyde was on with Mo Egger (6/3/10 Hour 3)
    As of the last time I tried to listen, the media player wouldn't load, but I'm assuming he kicked some serious ass and talked the hell out of his new book, The Wire-to-Wire Reds, available at www.wiretowirereds.com.

  • If you are wondering who the Reds plan on drafting come Monday
    Chris Buckley, director of amateur scouting, is enamored with this kid named "Best Available". Depending on who you ask, he's either a toolsy college hitter, a polished right-handed college pitcher, or a projectable high schooler. If you haven't been keeping up with Thundering Turtle's draft primer in the FanPosts section, your a dummy. Thinking about the Reds previous first-round picks, they have done a really great job recently, haven't they? Of their last 6 top picks, 4 are on the major league roster, one is a heartbeat away in AAA, and the other is currently raking in AA after a few average-ish years in the low minors. I think it's safe to say that Alonso will reach the majors sometime in the future, so the Reds will have 5 of their last 6 first round picks reach the majors. And that's spread out among 3 different GMs.

  • The NL Central standings haven't really changed in the past 2 weeks
    which is great news for the Reds (and the Cardinals, but they can go climb a tree for all I care). As Jack Moore puts it,

    "this two week stretch may not look like it’s killed the rest of the division, but it has. When not one but two division foes build up a big lead, time is of the essence, and now instead of having 120 games to make up an early deficit, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, and Houston now only have 108 games. Given the talent present on these rosters, particularly those in Houston and Pittsburgh, this stretch may even have been the nail in the coffin, as expecting poor teams to make up 6+ game gaps in only four months is unrealistic at best. Nothing is definitively over, at least, but the playoff odds for these teams are sitting in the low single digits at this point, and potentially reaching into the decimals."

  • The Reds come in at #7 on BP's power rankings
    In case you didn't know, they are good or something.



    Let's take a look around the NL Central blogs and see what life is like for all those looking up at us in the standings (that feels good to say):

Star-divide

  • DanUpBaby at Viva El Birdos waxes poetic about the return of Aaron Miles
    Miles, who has been tossed to the rubbish pile by the Cubs, A's, and our Reds in the past few months, made his return to the pastures of his glory years. The folks over at VEB seem just as excited to have him as we were.

  • The Pirates recently aquired Dana Eveland from the Blue Jays
    and Charlie at Bucs Dugout is not a fan of the move. They gave up a mildly promising relief prospect in the person of Ronald Uviedo and Charlie thinks just about anything was too high a price. I understand the Bucs are hurtin' for anyone who can hold his own for the big league squad, but minor upgrades (and whether or not Eveland is just that is still up in the air) like Eveland aren't going to get them back into contention. I've been a fan of Pirates GM Neil Huntington since he got the job and I've felt like he has them on their way up, but moves like this are less than inspiring.

  • Roy Oswalt has made it known in recent weeks that he may be open to listening about the possibility of perhaps accepting the idea of facilitating a trade out of Houston
    and to Stephen Higdon at The Crawfish Boxes, this is fine. Roy's been a mensch for the 'stros and he deserves a shot at a ring. What has his britches all up in a Texas-size bunch is the way Roy has been acting this season. I obviously haven't seen too many Astros games, since they've only played the Reds a few times, but Steve says his 'tude is lame city. This all culminated with his Memorial Day meltdown and ejection.

    "there seems to be a preponderance of evidence to suggest that Roy Oswalt isn't being the Roy Oswalt we have come to respect. What worries me is that I won't be able to root and cheer for the man like I would hope to when the dust has truly settled on this entire situation, and Roy is donning another uniform. Why? Because there is already bitter taste that is creeping into the back of my mouth and I fear that by the time Roy gets traded that his passive-agressive antics will have made him truly distasteful to me."

  • Remember when the Cubs were talking about a tax on other Cactus League fans to get their new stadium built in Mesa?
    It looks like that stupid idea has been tossed to the rubbish pile of stupid ideas, just like Crystal Pepsi, hamburger earmuffs, Clutch Man Monie's pheromonie colognie, the Maginot Line, invisible shoes, and the Desperate Housewives roller coaster at Cedar Point. Al Yellon at Bleed Cubbie Blue says the City of Mesa is selling off some land to raise the money instead. This sounds much more reasonable.

  • Comment 86 comments  |  1 recs  | 

    Do you like this story?

    Comments

    Display:

    we really don't want to relive '06 do we?

    "I don't challenge Murphy, even if he's 0 for 20. Not him, not ever." - Mario Soto

    by Caleb on Jun 4, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

    06 was fun for a while

    i remember JD making a post that he had finally let himself get into the team, and that he could just tell it felt like a different Reds team.

    and then they went the way of the shitter, but it was fun for quite a while.

    Retractions are for journalists! -Gray

    by boobs on Jun 4, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

    well, it WAS a different team

    they weren’t too bad. but they didn’t have the talent this team has. they didn’t have four number 1 draft picks on the roster. and they sure as heck didn’t have this pitching.

    by Daedalus on Jun 4, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Sadly losing Milton in September really hurt that team.

    "Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey

    by justin007000 on Jun 4, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

    "Clutch Man Monie's pheromonie colognie"

    brilliant

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jun 4, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

    thirded

    "Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

    by GrooveLeg on Jun 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I work with pheromones. Those things work!

    on bugs… Not on people.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jun 4, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

    They've made some pheromone based body sprays and junk.

    From what I’ve read and heard, it really doesn’t work. Insects naturally are attracted by pheromones, and the insects actually produce them- I don’t know of any true pheromones that elicit real ‘attraction’ in people.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jun 4, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

    are boobs considered pheromones?

    ’cause that usually works on me! honka honka honka!

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 4, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    What about moobs?

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jun 4, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

    On Orlando

    I don’t like using OPS for the lead-off spot. His OBP there is .333, which as you know is better than anything we’ve gotten over the last 2 seasons. He’s not a great solution there, but he’s also not a problem. If he can keep it up (I don’t think he can), you’ll never hear me complain about him in the lead-off spot.

    Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!

    by Slyde on Jun 4, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

    Why don't you think he can maintain a .333 OBP batting leadoff?

    I don’t either, I’m just curious as to your reasons.

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jun 4, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

    because I think he is more of a .310 OBP type of player

    I might be wrong, but that’s just what I expect from him, regardless of where he bats.

    Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!

    by Slyde on Jun 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i don't because he doesn't walk and he sure as shit isn't going to hit .333

    "Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

    by GrooveLeg on Jun 4, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i dont think OPS is optimal for witching out quality lead off hitters either

    but the juxtaposition with the rest of the lineup is really what i was going for. the tale that the team has been “sparked” by his move to the leadoff spot is quite a tall one, and i wanted to express that by showing just how awesomer everyone else has been. over half the lineup is hitting out of their minds and that is why the lead the NL in offense. not Cabrera leading off.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 4, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Plus, you stole the causation/correlation concept from me from yesterday's thread on the 18 game capsule

    I knew you secretly (VERY secretly) worshiped me*

    *to be clear, I do NOT think Charlie stole it from me, I just wanted to point out where we agree so he will understand how in sync the two of us really are.

    by timb116 on Jun 4, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Jeez La-weez

    Ask him out to dinner already.

     I’ll warn you now though, that picnic basket is locked down like Fort Knox.

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    The hat! No, no, anything but the hat!

    Please, think of the children!!

    This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan

    by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Grimwig'd

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I dont see the bullpen as a problem

    Masset is similar to Bruce earlier this year. His 475 BABIP will start dropping and he will put together a strong stretch. His stuff is simply too good.
    The Reds dont have a bad core with Rhodes, Massett and Cordero- and if Owings doesnt start throwing strikes Volquez will be ready at some point in July to take the long role.

    by davidmac84 on Jun 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

    The concerning thing about Masset

    His line drive rate is 30% right now, compared to 13% last year. That could be a small sample anomaly. What concerns me though is that it’s mainly ground balls turning into line drives. His GB rate last year was 54%, now it’s 40%. His FB rate has only dropped 2%. So it’s not like we can blow this all off as scoring decisions by the stringer. It’s only 43 balls in play, so it could change rather quickly, but dude’s been getting hit pretty hard this year.

    Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!

    by Slyde on Jun 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I hope you're right D-Mac...

    but:

    we’re riding Rhodes like a rented mule (or at least it feels that way to me). Yes, relievers can have these magical, numbers-defying seasons now and again…but can we really expect this level of dominance to continue???

    ii. Masset just seems like he is headed down a bad path — kind of like my gut reaction with Jared Burton before the DL. I think he will improve, but I’m not sure we are going to see Lockdown Masset like we saw last year.

    iii. Last time I checked, Cordero is getting ridden fairly hard with all of these close games (and a few not-so-close ones….but I digress) and his inability to have “easy” outings means he is throwing A LOT of pitches to get 3-out saves…which has to have a cumulative effect at some point. Frankly, I have very little confidence in him right now. Maybe I am being an alarmist (he obviously is still throwing VERY hard), but I just don’t know that we can expect him to be a lockdown closer and we play SO many close games, having such a closer is of particular importance to us.

    Hate to be all doom and gloom because I am REALLY trying to enjoy this magic mystery ride, but I am afraid of this bullpen right now.

    P.S. I haven’t seen one thing written about Rhodes physical issues the other night. Can I assume that “no news is good news?”

    by MoAb on Jun 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    IF the pen melts down

    … say … one out of five, can we live with that?
    How about two out of five?
    One out of three?

    Everyone’s bullpen is suspect and the trick is to have that 6-run lead going into the 9th.

    This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan

    by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yes

    That is fullproof…

    Now pitching, Francisco Cor-deritgoes!!!

    www.nextyearisouryear.blogspot.com

    by chazerize on Jun 4, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Thanks for officially making the memory a part of thread history

    This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan

    by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    or more specifically, insulting me by alleging I wasn't aware of it.

    This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan

    by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

    What team have you been watching at GABP anyway?

    My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

    by Madville on Jun 5, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

    everyone knows that the AL is vastly superior

    "I don't challenge Murphy, even if he's 0 for 20. Not him, not ever." - Mario Soto

    by Caleb on Jun 4, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

    7 out of 16, is not as good as 7 out of 30.

    "Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey

    by justin007000 on Jun 4, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    well yeah

    if every american league team is worse than the reds!

    "Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey

    by justin007000 on Jun 4, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

    And now we all know about denominators!

    Tomorrow – cross multiplying!

    This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.

    by andromache on Jun 4, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

    NL-C standings

    I’ve generally paid attention to this over the years and don’t have much data to support it, but:

    I takes about a week to make up 3 games in the standings, if you aren’t head to head.

    The deeper into the season, the odds of catching two teams borders on the ridiculously difficult.

    Pirates can’t catch the Reds but they still need to be beaten.

    This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan

    by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

    this gave me goosebumps

    “this two week stretch may not look like it’s killed the rest of the division, but it has. When not one but two division foes build up a big lead, time is of the essence, and now instead of having 120 games to make up an early deficit, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, and Houston now only have 108 games.”

    by Daedalus on Jun 4, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

    and has oil in it

    "Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey

    by justin007000 on Jun 4, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Has facebook been hacked?

    or do I have a virus? I’m getting some Scandinavian site.

    by Daedalus on Jun 4, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

    BOOM!

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

    oh shit

    call exalib8

    "Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

    by GrooveLeg on Jun 4, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

    is her computer fucked?

    "Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey

    by justin007000 on Jun 4, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

    On the note of Dairy Queen blizzards...

    That strawberry golden oreo thing ain’t too shabby.

    "People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

    by crolfer on Jun 4, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

    golden?

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 4, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

    jesus

    the shit-eater sued him? what a baby.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 4, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

    seriously, i would have beat the shit out of him.

    (assuming he had any left)

    hyuck hyuck hyuck!

    "Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

    by GrooveLeg on Jun 4, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

    right

    they are in high school. if you cant take a prank like this then you are never going to make it.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 4, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    ...are you serious?

    This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.

    by andromache on Jun 4, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

    teenage males are a brutal lot

    it’s like a Hobbesian dystopia out there. im not saying it’s totally ok (it’s clearly not ok), but legal action seems a bit like an overreaction.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 4, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I couldn't agree less.

    Why should teen boys be held to a lower standard of human decency? I would think it would be degrading to most teen males to say that this kind of behavior by or towards each other doesn’t merit serious action – as if they are incapable of maintaining the same level of minimally acceptable behavior as the rest of us.

    This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.

    by andromache on Jun 5, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

    the social dynamics of boys are incredibly weird

    and now that i think about it a bit more, i could be looking at this wrong.

    if the soda drinker were not a friend of the pooper, but in fact was the kid that the pooper and his friends all picked on, then i could understand legal action. the outcast has very little recourse to exact revenge without Reaping the Whirlwind, but suing would likely ensure that the pooper and his friends would stop giving him shit (pun intended). it might just be the only card he has to play. and that card gave him a straight flush.

    the way i saw it though was that the soda drinker was a part of the group, one of the friends, and just happened to be the butt of this particular practical joke. in a group of young males like that, jokes like this are often perpetrated on every member except the alpha. it’s a way of establishing the hierarchy. under these circumstances, the soda drinker just has to wipe his mouth and accept that he got owned hard and be sure to get the next guy even worse. it’s the only way to avoid being on the bottom rung.

    so yeah, of course it’s incredibly indecent. but you cant expect young males to treat their friends with any semblance of decency and respect. it would be perceived as weakness. that’s just male group psychology. with any luck though, they’ll grow out of that by the time they have children of their own.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 5, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

    He should have used the Joey Votto defense

    “That’s horseshit!”

    "aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

    by BK on Jun 4, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

    I am not a fan of Neal Huntington

    I think blowing up the team last year was the right thing to do. But then he traded for Aki Iwamura? FTH was he thinking.

    The fans have had it. They’re looking back on the Littlefield era with fondness.

    All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

    by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

    my pride has been hurt ...

    oh well, it’s not the first time

    Time to bring back Pete .... Pete Mackanin that is.

    by joshuar9476 on Jun 4, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

    wait, there's a Desperate Housewives roller coaster at Cedar Point?

    I am sooooooooo there.

    not.

    "The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

    by bbjones on Jun 5, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

    Comments For This Post Are Closed


    User Tools

    Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Cincinnati Reds. Community Guidlines

    FanShots

    Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

    Recent FanShots

    Brandon Phillips in Decline?
    You say, "Zavada" I say, "Rapada"...
    Glenn Braggs Strike Two Broken Bat
    Let the Schoenfield Hating Begin!
    Adrian Cardenas just got DFA'd.
    Mat Lato's Caravan Interview (Video)
    Reds reach Minor League deal with Jeff Francis | reds.com: News
    "He’s a guy I’ve always liked," Baker said. "I think he’s a great addition...
    Johnnie B. Baker and the Legend of Knifey-Spoony
    Reds sign Ryan Ludwick

    + New FanShot All FanShots >


    Bench Coaches

    Img00487-20110618-1949_small jch24

    How-thomas-the-tank-engine-works-11_small BK

    Ken_fish_called_wanda_small ken

    Zombie-mlb_small Charlie Scrabbles

    340x_charliesheen_small Kevin Mitchell is Batman

    Untitled_small nycredsfan

    5851799_small FordhamRam

    Lurch_small UncleWeez

    Beat Reporters

    Jinaz-reds-avatar_small JinAZ

    Turtle17_small Thundering Turtle

    Small riverfront76

    Piñata_small kcgard2