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Around SBN: 2011 In Extreme Home Runs

The Colossus of Rhodes was felled by an earthquake. Reds lose, 9-6.


Final - 6.29.2010 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 RHE
Philadelphia Phillies 0 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 9 11 0
Cincinnati Reds 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 0 6 10 1
WP: Brad Lidge (1 - 0)
SV: J.C. Romero (3)
LP: Arthur Rhodes (2 - 2)

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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Brian Schneider.  Scrubbsy McCatcherson hit one of a pair of three-run home runs off Mike Leake, and also got two more hits.  Honorable mentions go to Wilson Valdez and Joey Votto.

Key Plays

  • Things started off very promisingly for the Reds.  Brandon Phillips hit a leadoff triple off of Joe Blanton, and Orlando Cabrera used a productive groundout to bring him home.  Reds lead, 1-0.
  • Mike Leake got wild in the second inning and walked Ryan Howard and Jayson Werth.  They both advanced a base after Orlando Cabrera dropped a cutoff throw, but it didn't matter.  Brian Schneider hit a home run.  You know, the Nazi babe in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" was also named Schneider.  Phillies lead, 3-1.
  • In the fourth inning, Jayson Werth singled and so did Brian Schneider, one out later.  Wilson Valdez then hit a three run homer, as everyone in the Reds dugout applauded, praising Mike Leake's Aaron Harang impression as "spot on."  Phillies lead, 6-1.
  • With two outs in the sixth, the Reds began to claw their way back.  Miguel Cairo singled and Chris Heisey drew a walk.  Ramon Hernandez, paragon of clutch that he is, hit a double to deep center and both baserunners scored.  It should be noted that Dusty Baker let Mike Leake bat for himself with a runner on second and Scott Rolen available as a pinch hitter.  Leake flied out to center, ending the inning, but then Dusty pulled Leake anyway and used Danny Ray Herrera to pitch the seventh.  Now, I've gone on record many times as saying that Dusty should let Leake hit away more often.  Still, a curious (non)use of bench and bullpen.  Phillies lead, 6-3.
  • The comeback stalled, and soon there were two outs in the ninth inning.  Brad Lidge walked Brandon Phillips, and then Orlando Cabrera singled.  Joey Votto came to the plate, with every Reds fan knowing that the team needed a home run to keep the game alive.  Well, you know what my man Joey Votto did.  Game tied, 6-6.
  • Arthur Rhodes came in to pitch the tenth inning, something that can only be seen as the best decision.  Unfortunately, the magical streak came to an ugly end.  Ryan Howard led off the inning with a blast to left field that Laynce Nix could not catch and ended up on second base with a double.  Jayson Werth walked, and then Raul Ibanez hit an 0-2 pitch to the wall in center field.  Drew Stubbs ran back, reached out his glove, and popped the ball up.  He juggled it, and looked to maybe have trapped it against the wall, but ultimately the ball fell in the dirt of the warning track as the shoulders of every Reds fan slumped.  Howard scored the go ahead run.  Pinch hitter Ben Francisco then hit a sharp ball off the glove of Miguel Cairo to drive in Werth.  Nick Masset relieved Rhodes and faced Wilson Valdez.  Valdez put down a squeeze bunt that Joey Votto fielded, but Ramon Hernandez couldn't hang on to the throw as Ibanez scored.  Phillies win, 9-6.

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via www.fangraphs.com



Star-divide

Other Notes

  • Arthur Rhodes's ERA went from 0.28 to 1.13.  After 33 appearances without allowing a run, Rhodes failed to gain sole possession of the major league record. 
  • In his last four starts, Mike Leake is 0-2 with a 6.85 ERA.
  • Brandon Phillips has two triples this season.  Ryan Howard has three.

 


 

Final - 6.29.2010 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 RHE
Philadelphia Phillies 0 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 9 11 0
Cincinnati Reds 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 0 6 10 1
WP: Brad Lidge (1 - 0)
SV: J.C. Romero (3)
LP: Arthur Rhodes (2 - 2)

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I was at this game.

One word – Devastating.

A hooker in Minneapolis.

by Lucky Pierre on Jun 29, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Say, has anyone noticed

The Nationals have gone completely into the tank since St. Strasburg joined them.

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by johnu1 on Jun 29, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

even more good news

Gary Matthews Jr. has gone 6-for-17 as a Bat since his debut on Saturday.

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by johnu1 on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

shut up

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 30, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

looks like it was a wild one

Leake may need some time off or something. But then again, this was a tough lineup to face.

Gonna be tough to win tomorrow, but not impossible. Hopefully Harang can avoid the longball.

by cokane on Jun 29, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm rec'ing this

but you have to promise to share the rec with C.F. Payne, mkay?

by the finest muffins on Jun 29, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No prob.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a classy Cincy homey!

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-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't see the movie either, did you?

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by johnu1 on Jun 30, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shhh. Let 'im go. He's on a roll.

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was shocked to see it was already the bottom of the 9th when I got home from work around 9:30.

Joey was kind enough to make sure I got to listen to a little baseball tonight. Too bad it wasn’t of the winning sort, but at least they made it interesting, right?

So, did Arthur Rhodes flop his audition for the All-Star Game? Or does Charlie Manuel prescribe to the “bad dress rehearsal, good performance” theory?

by the finest muffins on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

All I know is that if Votto isn't on that team after the last two nights Charlie Manuel

is a fucking jackass.

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cahrlie Manuel is a fucking jackass.

My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

by Madville on Jun 30, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't see the game live but I just caught the Votto homerun

What a homerun call that was by Thom. Too bad the game ended shitty as fuck but I got chills even knowing the outcome.

by blark0202 on Jun 30, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

It is the home run swing that really captures the flavor of this season.

Watching it live was awesoem and seeing it again on replay was almost as good.

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by johnu1 on Jun 30, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just watched the replay on mlb.com

I liked how the Phillies announcer says “In the air to right center field…” like its a routine pop up, and then “uh oh” as he realizes he’s wrong.

by wishfuldrifter on Jun 30, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

and St. Louis wins 8-0

We’re #2.

The Fay says Rhodes got a nice ovation from the fans as he left. I guess someone’s been paying attention.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I'd say 30% of the fans were standing.

The rest of them were sitting there because they didn’t have anything better to do on a Tuesday night. True story – yesterday at the Reds Rookie Success League, Dusty Baker was visiting the fields to give pep talks to the kids. I got a second to talk to him, and I asked him if he’s ever hesitant to put Rhodes in the game at a tough spot considering he’s on the brink of MLB history.

He said, “Hell no. If you know Arthur (I don’t), then you know that he welcomes the big situations and tough spots.”

I’m like a black cat smeared in chunks of broken mirror walking under a ladder.

A hooker in Minneapolis.

by Lucky Pierre on Jun 30, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

green'd

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can't believe you've done this

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by GrooveLeg on Jun 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda think Jonny Gomes could use a day off

He’s batting .180/.189/.220 over his last 14 games (53 PA) and has played in every game since Memorial Day weekend (all but 3 as a starter). I felt like he was trying to do too much last night and I know at least once he swung at ball four and grounded out. I know there aren’t a lot o great options in the outfield, but against a tough righty like Halladay, hopefully Dusty will give Gomes a rest.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, regression isn't something that happens without a cause

but yeah, I don’t expect him to play at All-Star levels all year. However, this real human being probably could use a break.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

trade him!!!!!!

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by GrooveLeg on Jun 30, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

we might actually get something decent for him

and we have OF depth in the minors

just sayin’….

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, I'm traveling and have not been able to watch either game

but Monday, Mssrs sMarty and Cowboy were convinced Stubbs misplayed a flyball into a triple and it sounds like last night he muffed another one

Neither sounds like an easy can of corn, but this guy is supposed to be playing GG defense….let’s put it this way. Mile Cameron would have caught those balls.

Memo to Dusty. Play Heisy until he shows he can’t play

by timb116 on Jun 30, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Stubbs absolutely butchered the ball two nights in a row (Nix should have probably caught his also, but it was a tough play and Laynce Nix is, well, Laynce Nix).

C’mon kid – I know you’ve got the light tower power, but can we see a little glove work, please?

SSS and all, I know. . .

It's summertime - go Reds!

by NYCCats on Jun 30, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is not true

Stubbs ran a long way last night and the ball hit off his glove. I didn’t see the other play 2 days ago, but last night was not a botched play. It was a good effort that he just couldn’t get to.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

though I will say that he appeared to short-arm the ball as if he thought he was going to hit the wall

but still, I’m not going to criticize a guy for dropping a ball that many center fielders automatically play off the wall.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Seems like if you get there, don’t dive, don’t smash into the wall, and the ball lands in your glove. . you should probably catch it.

But I do agree it was not an “easy” play.

It's summertime - go Reds!

by NYCCats on Jun 30, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

By that logic, he would have been better off playing it off the wall

because he’s being criticized for not making a play he had to go a long way to get to. At least if he had just played it off the wall, peopled would have assumed it was the only play he had.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

I’m not sure how that follows. If he had pulled up, we would have been bitching that he didn’t run hard enough. He did get there after all, and wasn’t diving. Remember your ABC’s – always be criticizin’. ;-)

But seriously, I’m not ready to run the kid out on a rail, but it would have been nice to see him make that play, especially at such a critical juncture. And I think he can make it, unlike maybe some others on the team. So he gets graded on an unfavorable curve.

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by NYCCats on Jun 30, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I too know he could have made that play

but I’m not going to criticize a guy for not making a play that only gets made, say, 25% of the time. Would have loved to have seen him make, but thems the breaks. I don’t mean to be picking on your criticism specifically, but this is part of the problem with evaluating defense in general. A player can “look good” by not trying to make that play or he can “look bad” by coming up short. Which is right? I’d rather have the guy have the ball hit off his glove because I know that every once in a while he’ll catch it. It just sucks that last night, he didn’t catch.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually, Janish would have gotten it easily

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by johnu1 on Jun 30, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Mike Cameron would have gotten it

And Heisey doesn’t have Stubbs’ range, so I don’t think he’d be an improvement either (at least with the glove).

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cameron has speed and gets great jumps

He also does a great job of playing the wall in part because he can judge a ball and turn his head and run to the spot before looking back at the ball.

by ol Pete on Jun 30, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cameron's a great center fielder

but everything you said applies to Stubbs too, except maybe the running to the spot without looking at the ball, though I’m not sure anyone really does that. And maybe Cameron makes that play last night, but maybe he doesn’t. Lilke I said, it’s a play that is made something like 25% of the time.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think any decent CFer is taught to do that

Bubba Crosby explained it in a “Skillz” segment for “Kids on Deck,” the Yankees’ kids show.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, I think he was

He was certainly the best defensive CFer in the Yankees system. He had really good instincts in the outfield, as well as good wheels. Sometimes I’ve come to appreciate watching Brett Gardner play there. Gardner’s got crazy speed (bet he could beat Stubbs in a race), but he doesn’t have Bubba’s instincts. For that reason, I suspect he won’t age well. (Like Bernie Williams.)

However, that wasn’t my point. My point is that if they’re teaching kids to do it, it can’t be that unusual.
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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Gardner race Stubbs too!

And I wish Gardner also played CF for the Reds instead of Stubbs!

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Yankees would probably be willing to trade

They love them some light-tower power. And it’s pretty clear Brett Gardner will never have that (though he’s a fine player).

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the former independent league pitcher on my slow pitch softball team could do it

It’s just a repetition thing.

Bubba, though, has some serious Drew Stubbs fandom going on

by timb116 on Jun 30, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I think Stubbs has more range than a 37-year-old?

Good lord.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. But you are reading a ton into every word i write.

Because you believe in Stubbs so fiercely. Of course, Stubbs runs better and has more range than the 37 year old Cameron. But, the 27 year old Cameron makes those plays and that acknowledges how much range Stubbs displayed in getting to the ball on Tuesday night.

To re-state, since we’ve gone far afield: If Stubbs has current value, it’s not as a consistent hitter, but as a defensive star in the OF. So, if he ain’t planning on catching everything, I would like to see Heisy or (allah willing) Dickerson get some of the AB’s Stubbs is using (to, apparently, swat flies with the stick in his hand. I know he sure ain’t a baseball with it)

by timb116 on Jul 1, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

nobody catches everything

Including Cameron in his prime.

And I believe in Stubbs so fiercely? To me, it looks like you have an irrational hatred of him. I could see maybe an argument for giving Heisey a shot (though I think he’d be better off in the corners), but C-Dick? You gotta be kidding me.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 1, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what's wrong with C-Dick?

He’s no slouch defensively, and offensively he’s better than Stubbs (when healthy).

by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Dickerson

is hitting .205 / .222 / .273 so far this season. He can’t stay healthy, and at age 28, is probably on the downslope of his career.

Dickerson has never been projected as anything more than 4th outfielder, while Stubbs was a first round draft pick and is still seen as likely to be a starting CFer. He’s only 25, and is likely to improve.

Stubbs is OPSing .698 compared to Dickerson’s .495. I don’t see how anyone could reasonably prefer Dickerson to Stubbs at this point.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS if you're just looking @ 2010

Stubbs certainly hasn’t continued his 2009 numbers, and Dickerson’s been hurt (big surprise) in 2010.

Sounds to me like we need a guy who can get on base and actually produce offensively in CF. Right now, that’s neither Stubbs nor Dickerson.

by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're talking about CURRENT value

So yeah, I’m using 2010 numbers.

I don’t buy the argument that injury caused Dickerson’s poor numbers. Could be a lot of things: statistical fluke, scouting, not playing every day, having to get used to playing corner instead of CF.

In any case, with his wrist surgery, I doubt he’ll improve on his numbers this year. He’s not even playing rehab games yet. It wouldn’t shock me if he never played a game for the Reds again.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 1, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

would not surprise me either

speaking of which, what do the Reds send to the Royals for David DeJesus?

by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind DeJesus

But I don’t think he’s on Jocketty’s radar.

I think the Reds are satisfied with their outfield now, and frankly, so am I. If they’re going to upgrade, it should be at SS. And you can never have enough pitching.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 2, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

my 2 wants between now and July 31 are:

1. SS
2. Pitching

CF & C are a distant 3 and 4 right now

by Highlifeman21 on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it is a good idea to examine all ways to upgrade the team

but even with Stubbs offensive struggles, the Reds are over coming them with plus production at every other position that isn’t shortstop.

Stubbs had solid OBP skills in the minors, hopefully he will rediscover that. He really needs to shorten his swing. Seeing Stubbs this year kinda reminds me of Phillips in his tenure in Cleveland. Hopefully Stubbs will figure it out before we trade him for an undrafted minor league relief pitching “prospect”.

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by justin007000 on Jul 3, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

allah willing!

Not even Allah can keep Dickerson on the field

by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

you mean he used to

He’s 37 now. Well past his sell-by date on defense.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he still does

just because he plays for the rival of your favorite team doesn’t mean he is bad.

by ol Pete on Jun 30, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's undeniably slowed down quite a bit.

You’re not saying he still has great speed, are you?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What team he plays for has nothing to do with it

I don’t hate players because of the teams they play for, and he’s not exactly a Red Sox icon anyway.

He has slowed down quite a bit, as you might expect given his age. CFers peak at about age 24, IIRC. He’s way beyond that. That’s why I didn’t want the Yankees to sign him a couple years back. (They tried, but couldn’t work out a deal.)

Look at his fielding stats. He’s not the player he was. And frankly, it would be very strange if he were. He’s 37. Most CFers have retired by then, or moved to other positions.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, duh, I wasn't arguing Heisy's a better defensive CF, but perhaps a better all around CF

You’re talking about a kid who ain’t hitting (and strikes 35% of his PA) versus another one who has been raking.

I got to say 35% K’s and very little else makes me wonder if he CAN make contact enough.

But, one thing I do know, is he has to play great defense to make up for it.

PS I saw the play on ESPN and I’ll just say the Mike Cameron who played with the Reds would have absolutely made that play. He made every play

by timb116 on Jun 30, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heisey should be playing LF

heisey, stubbs, bruce ftw

Time to bring back Pete .... Pete Mackanin that is.

by joshuar9476 on Jun 30, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got my roku and cable Internet hooked up yesterday

and watched the bottom of the ninth this morning as I ate breakfast.

I choose to ignore what happened after that, because the Votto HR was pretty sweet.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 30, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Cedric Benson arrest seen in a different light

the good boys @ Cincy Jungle have an interesting take on the “situation” involving Ced Benson.

what a joke….CB32 will not be suspended for this bullcrap. WHO DEY!~

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 30, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Bengals fans really don't think Cedric Benson did anything?

Have they followed his career (or, y’kow, the entire Bengals team) at all? Ordinarily a guy wouldn’t get suspended for this (Joey Porter didn’t get a suspension for punching Levi Jones, Braylon Edwards didn’t get suspended for punching LeBron’s buddy, Vince Young isn’t looking likely to get suspended for his strip club brawl), but Benson’s got a history and Goodell doesn’t like repeat offenders. I’m guessing he picks up a couple games for this.

by Geki on Jun 30, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he did something.

Whether he was at fault is something else.

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he went to OSU

you’d protest his innocence. i have no doubt.

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 30, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong. But if he went to OU you would. ;p

Clarett was a piece of shit human being before he went to OSU.(And yes I do have personal and first-hand knowledge of this.) Great player — a piece of crap person.

Hell, I don’t even like Tressel that much as a person. I have first-hand knowledge there, too.

I’ve been fortunate enough in my life to have met many college and pro athletes/coaches — both in a working function and in the general public. I would want to be friends with very few of them and find most of them to be crappy, self-centered people. (At the same time, I know they have to be that way in order to be that good.)

With that said. I’ve also seen how athletes can get into a bad situation simply for being who they are. There’s a certain group in society that, for some reason, love to start shit with the famous. Sometimes it’s them getting violent toward an athlete. I would not be surprised if this was one of those instances.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because that was proven!

Where as, at Syracuse, he would have never had to pay for a meal or article of clothing.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

was this the Fucillo Ford car scandal?

I remember when I was there, all the revenue generating sport athletes drove some damn nice cars and had a lot of bling

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was back in 1993

It involved four different sports and had Boeheim in deep water. Athletes were getting money, free meals, free transportation and lots of “gifts.” The actual gifts were never released but rumors emerged that it was a lot of clothes — including Jordans and Reebok Pumps!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think so

if the facts play out as described Ced did absolutely nothing wrong. i’ve certainly been in situations where beefheads bump into me and ask “what are you looking at”…just itching for an altercation. Ced happens to have a larger wallet and is a bigger target for assclowns.

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 30, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Also a famous face.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that you know exactly what happened.

Thank you, God. You are wise.

Seriously, he’s probably at some fault here. But there’s not enough to burn him for anything. It took nearly a month to come after him.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody watch "Louie" last night?

I just watched it this morning. The first episode was hilarious. The second episode was weird. Still waiting to see when Louie Anderson shows up though. I thought this was a show about him.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Louie Anderson? That's ridiculous.

It’s a documentary about the writing of “Louie Louie,” duh

by thevole on Jun 30, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

ohhhhh

that’s why the second episode was so confusing.

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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

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