The Colossus of Rhodes was felled by an earthquake. Reds lose, 9-6.
Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Brian Schneider. Scrubbsy McCatcherson hit one of a pair of three-run home runs off Mike Leake, and also got two more hits. Honorable mentions go to Wilson Valdez and Joey Votto.
Key Plays
- Things started off very promisingly for the Reds. Brandon Phillips hit a leadoff triple off of Joe Blanton, and Orlando Cabrera used a productive groundout to bring him home. Reds lead, 1-0.
- Mike Leake got wild in the second inning and walked Ryan Howard and Jayson Werth. They both advanced a base after Orlando Cabrera dropped a cutoff throw, but it didn't matter. Brian Schneider hit a home run. You know, the Nazi babe in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" was also named Schneider. Phillies lead, 3-1.
- In the fourth inning, Jayson Werth singled and so did Brian Schneider, one out later. Wilson Valdez then hit a three run homer, as everyone in the Reds dugout applauded, praising Mike Leake's Aaron Harang impression as "spot on." Phillies lead, 6-1.
- With two outs in the sixth, the Reds began to claw their way back. Miguel Cairo singled and Chris Heisey drew a walk. Ramon Hernandez, paragon of clutch that he is, hit a double to deep center and both baserunners scored. It should be noted that Dusty Baker let Mike Leake bat for himself with a runner on second and Scott Rolen available as a pinch hitter. Leake flied out to center, ending the inning, but then Dusty pulled Leake anyway and used Danny Ray Herrera to pitch the seventh. Now, I've gone on record many times as saying that Dusty should let Leake hit away more often. Still, a curious (non)use of bench and bullpen. Phillies lead, 6-3.
- The comeback stalled, and soon there were two outs in the ninth inning. Brad Lidge walked Brandon Phillips, and then Orlando Cabrera singled. Joey Votto came to the plate, with every Reds fan knowing that the team needed a home run to keep the game alive. Well, you know what my man Joey Votto did. Game tied, 6-6.
- Arthur Rhodes came in to pitch the tenth inning, something that can only be seen as the best decision. Unfortunately, the magical streak came to an ugly end. Ryan Howard led off the inning with a blast to left field that Laynce Nix could not catch and ended up on second base with a double. Jayson Werth walked, and then Raul Ibanez hit an 0-2 pitch to the wall in center field. Drew Stubbs ran back, reached out his glove, and popped the ball up. He juggled it, and looked to maybe have trapped it against the wall, but ultimately the ball fell in the dirt of the warning track as the shoulders of every Reds fan slumped. Howard scored the go ahead run. Pinch hitter Ben Francisco then hit a sharp ball off the glove of Miguel Cairo to drive in Werth. Nick Masset relieved Rhodes and faced Wilson Valdez. Valdez put down a squeeze bunt that Joey Votto fielded, but Ramon Hernandez couldn't hang on to the throw as Ibanez scored. Phillies win, 9-6.
Other Notes
- Arthur Rhodes's ERA went from 0.28 to 1.13. After 33 appearances without allowing a run, Rhodes failed to gain sole possession of the major league record.
- In his last four starts, Mike Leake is 0-2 with a 6.85 ERA.
- Brandon Phillips has two triples this season. Ryan Howard has three.
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Say, has anyone noticed
The Nationals have gone completely into the tank since St. Strasburg joined them.
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even more good news
Gary Matthews Jr. has gone 6-for-17 as a Bat since his debut on Saturday.
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looks like it was a wild one
Leake may need some time off or something. But then again, this was a tough lineup to face.
Gonna be tough to win tomorrow, but not impossible. Hopefully Harang can avoid the longball.
Was this loss tough? Yes.
But I’m not that angry. This team proved it could come back (again) and without Rolen.
Fuck the rest of this league: the Reds can and will play with anyone. This shit ain’t over. Some bullpen help and this could have been a win.
Cincy’s the real fucking deal. Philly won the NL last year — and the whole thing two seasons ago — and we damn near took two from them (and still have a chance to do so). I’m 100-percent sold on this team.
We’re back. I just can’t believe a loss is what proved it to me.

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I'm rec'ing this
but you have to promise to share the rec with C.F. Payne, mkay?
by the finest muffins on Jun 29, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No prob.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a classy Cincy homey!

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
No! And it’s not over now. It’s not over till we say it’s over! Now, who’s with me?

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by johnu1 on Jun 30, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You didn't see the movie either, did you?
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Shhh. Let 'im go. He's on a roll.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I was shocked to see it was already the bottom of the 9th when I got home from work around 9:30.
Joey was kind enough to make sure I got to listen to a little baseball tonight. Too bad it wasn’t of the winning sort, but at least they made it interesting, right?
So, did Arthur Rhodes flop his audition for the All-Star Game? Or does Charlie Manuel prescribe to the “bad dress rehearsal, good performance” theory?
by the finest muffins on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
All I know is that if Votto isn't on that team after the last two nights Charlie Manuel
is a fucking jackass.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 29, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't see the game live but I just caught the Votto homerun
What a homerun call that was by Thom. Too bad the game ended shitty as fuck but I got chills even knowing the outcome.
It is the home run swing that really captures the flavor of this season.
Watching it live was awesoem and seeing it again on replay was almost as good.

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by johnu1 on Jun 30, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just watched the replay on mlb.com
I liked how the Phillies announcer says “In the air to right center field…” like its a routine pop up, and then “uh oh” as he realizes he’s wrong.
by wishfuldrifter on Jun 30, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
and St. Louis wins 8-0
We’re #2.
The Fay says Rhodes got a nice ovation from the fans as he left. I guess someone’s been paying attention.
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Yeah, I'd say 30% of the fans were standing.
The rest of them were sitting there because they didn’t have anything better to do on a Tuesday night. True story – yesterday at the Reds Rookie Success League, Dusty Baker was visiting the fields to give pep talks to the kids. I got a second to talk to him, and I asked him if he’s ever hesitant to put Rhodes in the game at a tough spot considering he’s on the brink of MLB history.
He said, “Hell no. If you know Arthur (I don’t), then you know that he welcomes the big situations and tough spots.”
I’m like a black cat smeared in chunks of broken mirror walking under a ladder.
A hooker in Minneapolis.
by Lucky Pierre on Jun 30, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions
"Lucky" Pierre, my ass!
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by Slyde on Jun 30, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oddly enough,
the phrase ‘Lucky Pierre my ass!’ is not all that uncommon.
A hooker in Minneapolis.
by Lucky Pierre on Jun 30, 2010 8:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 7 recs
wow
um…unintentional on my part, but I’m glad it works more than one way.
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honestly, I haven't been around in the comments much lately
so I haven’t seen them. And yeah, I had to google it. Eww.
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It compares favorably to "Animal House" quotes.
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i can't believe you've done this
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
I kinda think Jonny Gomes could use a day off
He’s batting .180/.189/.220 over his last 14 games (53 PA) and has played in every game since Memorial Day weekend (all but 3 as a starter). I felt like he was trying to do too much last night and I know at least once he swung at ball four and grounded out. I know there aren’t a lot o great options in the outfield, but against a tough righty like Halladay, hopefully Dusty will give Gomes a rest.
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Well, regression isn't something that happens without a cause
but yeah, I don’t expect him to play at All-Star levels all year. However, this real human being probably could use a break.
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trade him!!!!!!
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we might actually get something decent for him
and we have OF depth in the minors
just sayin’….
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I'm traveling and have not been able to watch either game
but Monday, Mssrs sMarty and Cowboy were convinced Stubbs misplayed a flyball into a triple and it sounds like last night he muffed another one
Neither sounds like an easy can of corn, but this guy is supposed to be playing GG defense….let’s put it this way. Mile Cameron would have caught those balls.
Memo to Dusty. Play Heisy until he shows he can’t play
Agreed
Stubbs absolutely butchered the ball two nights in a row (Nix should have probably caught his also, but it was a tough play and Laynce Nix is, well, Laynce Nix).
C’mon kid – I know you’ve got the light tower power, but can we see a little glove work, please?
SSS and all, I know. . .
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This is not true
Stubbs ran a long way last night and the ball hit off his glove. I didn’t see the other play 2 days ago, but last night was not a botched play. It was a good effort that he just couldn’t get to.
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though I will say that he appeared to short-arm the ball as if he thought he was going to hit the wall
but still, I’m not going to criticize a guy for dropping a ball that many center fielders automatically play off the wall.
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I dunno
Seems like if you get there, don’t dive, don’t smash into the wall, and the ball lands in your glove. . you should probably catch it.
But I do agree it was not an “easy” play.
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By that logic, he would have been better off playing it off the wall
because he’s being criticized for not making a play he had to go a long way to get to. At least if he had just played it off the wall, peopled would have assumed it was the only play he had.
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?
I’m not sure how that follows. If he had pulled up, we would have been bitching that he didn’t run hard enough. He did get there after all, and wasn’t diving. Remember your ABC’s – always be criticizin’. ;-)
But seriously, I’m not ready to run the kid out on a rail, but it would have been nice to see him make that play, especially at such a critical juncture. And I think he can make it, unlike maybe some others on the team. So he gets graded on an unfavorable curve.
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I too know he could have made that play
but I’m not going to criticize a guy for not making a play that only gets made, say, 25% of the time. Would have loved to have seen him make, but thems the breaks. I don’t mean to be picking on your criticism specifically, but this is part of the problem with evaluating defense in general. A player can “look good” by not trying to make that play or he can “look bad” by coming up short. Which is right? I’d rather have the guy have the ball hit off his glove because I know that every once in a while he’ll catch it. It just sucks that last night, he didn’t catch.
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actually, Janish would have gotten it easily
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I don't think Mike Cameron would have gotten it
And Heisey doesn’t have Stubbs’ range, so I don’t think he’d be an improvement either (at least with the glove).
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Cameron has speed and gets great jumps
He also does a great job of playing the wall in part because he can judge a ball and turn his head and run to the spot before looking back at the ball.
Cameron's a great center fielder
but everything you said applies to Stubbs too, except maybe the running to the spot without looking at the ball, though I’m not sure anyone really does that. And maybe Cameron makes that play last night, but maybe he doesn’t. Lilke I said, it’s a play that is made something like 25% of the time.
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I think any decent CFer is taught to do that
Bubba Crosby explained it in a “Skillz” segment for “Kids on Deck,” the Yankees’ kids show.
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Bubba Crosby, being of GG caliber defense....
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, I think he was
He was certainly the best defensive CFer in the Yankees system. He had really good instincts in the outfield, as well as good wheels. Sometimes I’ve come to appreciate watching Brett Gardner play there. Gardner’s got crazy speed (bet he could beat Stubbs in a race), but he doesn’t have Bubba’s instincts. For that reason, I suspect he won’t age well. (Like Bernie Williams.)
However, that wasn’t my point. My point is that if they’re teaching kids to do it, it can’t be that unusual.
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I'd like to see Gardner race Stubbs too!
And I wish Gardner also played CF for the Reds instead of Stubbs!
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The Yankees would probably be willing to trade
They love them some light-tower power. And it’s pretty clear Brett Gardner will never have that (though he’s a fine player).
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the former independent league pitcher on my slow pitch softball team could do it
It’s just a repetition thing.
Bubba, though, has some serious Drew Stubbs fandom going on
Because I think Stubbs has more range than a 37-year-old?
Good lord.
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No. But you are reading a ton into every word i write.
Because you believe in Stubbs so fiercely. Of course, Stubbs runs better and has more range than the 37 year old Cameron. But, the 27 year old Cameron makes those plays and that acknowledges how much range Stubbs displayed in getting to the ball on Tuesday night.
To re-state, since we’ve gone far afield: If Stubbs has current value, it’s not as a consistent hitter, but as a defensive star in the OF. So, if he ain’t planning on catching everything, I would like to see Heisy or (allah willing) Dickerson get some of the AB’s Stubbs is using (to, apparently, swat flies with the stick in his hand. I know he sure ain’t a baseball with it)
by timb116 on Jul 1, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nobody catches everything
Including Cameron in his prime.
And I believe in Stubbs so fiercely? To me, it looks like you have an irrational hatred of him. I could see maybe an argument for giving Heisey a shot (though I think he’d be better off in the corners), but C-Dick? You gotta be kidding me.
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Wait, what's wrong with C-Dick?
He’s no slouch defensively, and offensively he’s better than Stubbs (when healthy).
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris Dickerson
is hitting .205 / .222 / .273 so far this season. He can’t stay healthy, and at age 28, is probably on the downslope of his career.
Dickerson has never been projected as anything more than 4th outfielder, while Stubbs was a first round draft pick and is still seen as likely to be a starting CFer. He’s only 25, and is likely to improve.
Stubbs is OPSing .698 compared to Dickerson’s .495. I don’t see how anyone could reasonably prefer Dickerson to Stubbs at this point.
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SSS if you're just looking @ 2010
Stubbs certainly hasn’t continued his 2009 numbers, and Dickerson’s been hurt (big surprise) in 2010.
Sounds to me like we need a guy who can get on base and actually produce offensively in CF. Right now, that’s neither Stubbs nor Dickerson.
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
we're talking about CURRENT value
So yeah, I’m using 2010 numbers.
I don’t buy the argument that injury caused Dickerson’s poor numbers. Could be a lot of things: statistical fluke, scouting, not playing every day, having to get used to playing corner instead of CF.
In any case, with his wrist surgery, I doubt he’ll improve on his numbers this year. He’s not even playing rehab games yet. It wouldn’t shock me if he never played a game for the Reds again.
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would not surprise me either
speaking of which, what do the Reds send to the Royals for David DeJesus?
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind DeJesus
But I don’t think he’s on Jocketty’s radar.
I think the Reds are satisfied with their outfield now, and frankly, so am I. If they’re going to upgrade, it should be at SS. And you can never have enough pitching.
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Agreed
my 2 wants between now and July 31 are:
1. SS
2. Pitching
CF & C are a distant 3 and 4 right now
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I know it is a good idea to examine all ways to upgrade the team
but even with Stubbs offensive struggles, the Reds are over coming them with plus production at every other position that isn’t shortstop.
Stubbs had solid OBP skills in the minors, hopefully he will rediscover that. He really needs to shorten his swing. Seeing Stubbs this year kinda reminds me of Phillips in his tenure in Cleveland. Hopefully Stubbs will figure it out before we trade him for an undrafted minor league relief pitching “prospect”.
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allah willing!
Not even Allah can keep Dickerson on the field
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
you mean he used to
He’s 37 now. Well past his sell-by date on defense.
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He's undeniably slowed down quite a bit.
You’re not saying he still has great speed, are you?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
What team he plays for has nothing to do with it
I don’t hate players because of the teams they play for, and he’s not exactly a Red Sox icon anyway.
He has slowed down quite a bit, as you might expect given his age. CFers peak at about age 24, IIRC. He’s way beyond that. That’s why I didn’t want the Yankees to sign him a couple years back. (They tried, but couldn’t work out a deal.)
Look at his fielding stats. He’s not the player he was. And frankly, it would be very strange if he were. He’s 37. Most CFers have retired by then, or moved to other positions.
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Well, duh, I wasn't arguing Heisy's a better defensive CF, but perhaps a better all around CF
You’re talking about a kid who ain’t hitting (and strikes 35% of his PA) versus another one who has been raking.
I got to say 35% K’s and very little else makes me wonder if he CAN make contact enough.
But, one thing I do know, is he has to play great defense to make up for it.
PS I saw the play on ESPN and I’ll just say the Mike Cameron who played with the Reds would have absolutely made that play. He made every play
yes, but he could turn invisible and fly too
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And Wonder Woman would ride around inside of him
by Brendanukkah on Jun 30, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't that usually the other way around?
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Heisey should be playing LF
heisey, stubbs, bruce ftw
Time to bring back Pete .... Pete Mackanin that is.
by joshuar9476 on Jun 30, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I got my roku and cable Internet hooked up yesterday
and watched the bottom of the ninth this morning as I ate breakfast.
I choose to ignore what happened after that, because the Votto HR was pretty sweet.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Cedric Benson arrest seen in a different light
the good boys @ Cincy Jungle have an interesting take on the “situation” involving Ced Benson.
what a joke….CB32 will not be suspended for this bullcrap. WHO DEY!~
"then skip it"....
Bengals fans really don't think Cedric Benson did anything?
Have they followed his career (or, y’kow, the entire Bengals team) at all? Ordinarily a guy wouldn’t get suspended for this (Joey Porter didn’t get a suspension for punching Levi Jones, Braylon Edwards didn’t get suspended for punching LeBron’s buddy, Vince Young isn’t looking likely to get suspended for his strip club brawl), but Benson’s got a history and Goodell doesn’t like repeat offenders. I’m guessing he picks up a couple games for this.
I think he did something.
Whether he was at fault is something else.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong. But if he went to OU you would. ;p
Clarett was a piece of shit human being before he went to OSU.(And yes I do have personal and first-hand knowledge of this.) Great player — a piece of crap person.
Hell, I don’t even like Tressel that much as a person. I have first-hand knowledge there, too.
I’ve been fortunate enough in my life to have met many college and pro athletes/coaches — both in a working function and in the general public. I would want to be friends with very few of them and find most of them to be crappy, self-centered people. (At the same time, I know they have to be that way in order to be that good.)
With that said. I’ve also seen how athletes can get into a bad situation simply for being who they are. There’s a certain group in society that, for some reason, love to start shit with the famous. Sometimes it’s them getting violent toward an athlete. I would not be surprised if this was one of those instances.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
if he went to OSU, chances are he didn't do his own classwork
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Because that was proven!
Where as, at Syracuse, he would have never had to pay for a meal or article of clothing.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
was this the Fucillo Ford car scandal?
I remember when I was there, all the revenue generating sport athletes drove some damn nice cars and had a lot of bling
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This was back in 1993
It involved four different sports and had Boeheim in deep water. Athletes were getting money, free meals, free transportation and lots of “gifts.” The actual gifts were never released but rumors emerged that it was a lot of clothes — including Jordans and Reebok Pumps!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think so
if the facts play out as described Ced did absolutely nothing wrong. i’ve certainly been in situations where beefheads bump into me and ask “what are you looking at”…just itching for an altercation. Ced happens to have a larger wallet and is a bigger target for assclowns.
"then skip it"....
Yup.
Also a famous face.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I like that you know exactly what happened.
Thank you, God. You are wise.
Seriously, he’s probably at some fault here. But there’s not enough to burn him for anything. It took nearly a month to come after him.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jun 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody watch "Louie" last night?
I just watched it this morning. The first episode was hilarious. The second episode was weird. Still waiting to see when Louie Anderson shows up though. I thought this was a show about him.
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ohhhhh
that’s why the second episode was so confusing.
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I just can't figure out how they managed to split it into 13 parts
I mean, it’s only 3 chords
by thevole on Jun 30, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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