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Even McPaper knows that Chapman's path to the majors to runs through the bullpen
I think I said something yesterday about not reading into Chapman pitching in relief of Volquez's start. That was, in some sense, "wrong." I don't think Chapman's coming up right away, but he could be up in the bullpen sooner than expected. This doesn't change the larger certainty that the Reds will attempt develop him into a starter at all costs. As mentioned elsewhere, the list of quality starters (QS) who began their big league careers in relief is an impressive one.

Fay looks at yesterday's almost-triple play
For those that criticize Phillips' lapses on the base-paths, fairness dictates big ups to Phillips for bending the infield fly rule that helped Cueto out of a bases loaded jam - and ultimately got A's manager Bob Geren ejected.

FanGraphs puts it to us: Gomes or Heisey in LF?
The Reds might pick up half a win by starting Chris Heisey, due chiefly to his considerable defensive advantage to Gomes (at least according to UZR). Insignificant though it may seem, the team is currently locked in a close race with the Cardinals and scraping together chunks of wins here and there could be decisive. I might add that while Gomes is likely to outperform Heisey offensively, as riverfront76 astutely pointed out for us in his 18 Gamer, Heisey is almost certainly hitting better than Stubbs. What isn't clear to me in the latter case especially is how close the comparison in defensive skill might be between Stubbs and Heisey.  Somebody make a spreadsheet.

MLB FanHouse looks at Joey Votto's toilings in obscurity
For the rest of the league's fans, Votto has a been a mostly quite riot. Of course, we know better. It will be a mega-travesty if Votto is anything short of second up to play 1B for the NL. You can bet I'll be using my interrobang if that happens.

Red Hot Momma's love justification series rolls on with "What I Love About Scott Rolen"
What I love about Scott Rolen is the relief I feel when he steps into the box after Joey Votto. I love that, as potent as one infield corner is, there’s a mirror of it on the other side, protecting each other while at the same time challenging.

Chris Sabo is teaching hitting fundamentals at a camp in Marietta
I alerted my 7 year old self, who told me, "You're a fan of the Reds and not the starting second baseman? I guess I've gotta get on my shit." Spacetime was been irrevocably altered.

The Pirates rehired that rogue Pierogi
From Deadspin: "After a thorough HR review, the pierogi mascot who was fired for criticizing the team on Facebook has been reinstated to his menial, dehumanizing job. Because if there's one thing the Pirates never let go of, it's talent."

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Heisey over Gomes?

You mean defense matters, even in left field? Who’d have thunk it?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 24, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

So sayeth Fangraphs

I suspect Gomes isn’t as monumentally bad as UZR says, but it’s really impossible to say. Regardless, think Heisey needs to be worked into the lineup across all three OF positions, including cases when Bruce needs a rest.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

My posting here did not equate to an endorsement

I think it’s useful to examine the defensive gap between Heisey and Gomes, but the 0.5 WAR thing, though it’s a shorthand for “defense matters,” seems empirically useless.

There are a host of reasons to start Gomes in my mind, which include nonnumerical things like he’s awesome and he seems to have the ability to improve his game, notably his hitting against righties.

And team chemistry is not to be discounted. When people dismissed streakiness as the result of random chance, they discounted the psychological effects of slumps and “hot handedness.” I think there’s a similar effect at work in ignoring team psychology and focusing solely on projected value. Trying to quantify it seems beyond the pale.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not holding the article against you

you didn’t write it, and I don’t have a problem with you linking to it. But a couple of weeks ago when I was writing of my burnout on sabermetrics, it was articles like that one that were the exact reason why. I just wish these guys would start taking the margin of error into account, at least a little bit. I understand it is much easier and more interesting to talk in absolutes, but it annoys me that they talk about these things that way.

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by Slyde on Jun 24, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It becomes a strictly academic exercise

which I hope is not why any of us became fans. The projection systems may be internally consistent, but they’re both incomplete and not fully reliable.

The larger questions the article raises are interesting though, to those of us that care about the Reds and who they put on the field: Gomes or Heisey, and, proximate to that, Heisey or Stubbs?

But it’s unfortunate that some of the SABR-driven articles are so bloodless – they treat their metrics as Gospel and sometimes they excise any human or narrative element. Fandom is certainly more than the sum total of WAR. If Gomes were benched for Heisey, I’d just as soon they scrape up that half-win elsewhere.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Gomes would still be on the team

His chemistry, leadership, etc., would still be there, whether he’s starting every day or just pinching-hitting and spot-starting.

FWIW, that book in sports economics I’m reading doesn’t buy the “hot hand” thing.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 24, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope. this goes against the philosophy of what a leader is

it’s like when they were saying tim tebow should be drafted because of his leadership.

the argument against it was “you can’t lead if you don’t play”

by 'tHan on Jun 24, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it doesn't

How could I expect any book you’re reading to agree with anything I say?

The hot hand’s been statistically dissed – like I said – but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have psychological effect, same for the slump. I’ve read that it has a tendency to make players overconfident, just as a slump can become deflating and self-perpetuating. To ignore psychological interactions with performance – success or failure – is just not being interdisciplinary. I think that pitfall can happen to SABR adherents.

My point about Gomes wasn’t really tied to whether he’s just hanging around or not. Team chemistry is just something environmental that a narrow focus on metrics ignores, so that’s how come it gets mentioned. But the larger point is that I like him as a player and therefore I’d like to see him playing regularly. And I do think some of his influence is bound up in being a starter.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is pretty much my theory in sports

thanks for posting it.

I could run out every ground ball and not be Joey Votto. But at the same time, David Eckstein could run out every ground ball and not be Anderson Machado.

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by Cy Schourek on Jun 24, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it matters a "half a win"

whatever that means. It’s also using predictions for a guy who has less than a hundred MLB AB’s and started less than 10 in left field!

So, whatever a half a win is, it’s less than convincing to me. BUT, there is no doubt in my mind that Chris should be starting 2 games in CF until he wins that job. The way he hits, he just might win that job from Stubbs

by timb116 on Jun 24, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, you and I just said the same thing?

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

And I agree that Heisey should get more playing time in LF and CF. He should be ahead of Nix on the depth chart.

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by Slyde on Jun 24, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heisey definitely deserves more of a shot in CF.

The other problem I have with this article (which is also a Dusty problem, I guess) is how the batting order would have to adjust if Heisey was slotted in for Gomes.

Who bats 5th? How many people get shifted around to accomodate it? If Heisey is asked to leadoff, he just may well struggle like Stubbs did. They get at that a bit in the comments, but the article makes the Gomes/Heisey transition appear a bit too seamless for me to wholeheartedly believe.

But, if Heisey played some for Stubbs, he’d fit in just fine in the 7th spot.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 24, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You and I agree all the f*cking time. You just are less pedantic about it

I try to tell you this all the time. I am constantly “rec-ing” your opinions because of their essential correctness. You just…..often….disagree with me regarding the mode of discussion. i am, on the internet, a little more argumentive than the average person. it should not however, blind you to the fact that we agree on most everything regarding this team.

by timb116 on Jun 24, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most assuredly, I agree with nearly everyone as well

I just think it’s fun to address the topics that generate less predictable responses.
I believe that if any or all of us were firmly on the other side of these topics, we’d not be posting here in the first place, or would have stopped.

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by johnu1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i prefer not to get wrapped up in the whole "agree" or "disagree" baseball conversations on this blog.

most of the time by opinion has already been stated by somebody so i don’t see the point in stating something that has already been stated. i’d much rather make a joke or post a funny picture… you know, the internet version of farting in class.

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by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Chechnya?

/drunk and grumbly’d

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by Cy Schourek on Jun 24, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're dead on

And it really doesn’t seem useful to carry Heisey if he’s only going to see semi-regular time during interleague play.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hiesey and Stubbs have a ways to go before they develop into everyday players who consistently produce the necessay offensive numbers for a CF/LF

I believe that LF is the place where a manager puts a guy like Gomes or George Foster (not that Gomes is a George Foster or an Adam Dunn)…But Gomes hits and he is a team leader and he is experienced and needs to be in the line up.

Now round these parts oft times concepts like leadership and experience get swept under the rug…. tell that to Scott Rolen.

Hiesey has a very small sample size in all three categories (hitting, leadership and experience) at the MLB level

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by Madville on Jun 24, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomes is better offensively than Heisey

but Heisey’s producing better than Stubbs, so the WAR comparison needs to be between Gomes, Heisey & Stubbs, and then play the two with the better WAR.

While Gomes makes Adam Dunn looks like Carl Crawford in LF, Gomes produces offensively much better than Heisey or Stubbs. If the argument is .5 WAR in LF, you have to discount it of being a statistical tie or within the margin of error due to the fact we’re talking about LF defense. If this was CF and they told us Heisey was .5 WAR better than Stubbs, I’d at least listen to it, b/c CF defense actually does matter.

Let’s see a show of hands who thinks Heisey actually helps the Reds more than Gomes potentially hurts the Reds….

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 25, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

MARIETTA TIMES!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

i attended that Reds Legends camp when i was 9 or 10 and got Clay Carroll’s autograph. i had no idea who he was.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Pual Janish

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by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

for

Somebody make a spreadsheet.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jun 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Heisey vs. Stubbs in CF?

The half-win might be meaningful over the entire year but how long does it take for Gomes/Nix and Bruce to get used to having Heisey in the middle?

Just for the conversation of it, what’s the comfort zone with the outfield as it is?

Or has Heisey enough plays out there that it doesn’t matter? A lot of outfield is communication.

Who yells “I got it!” louder?

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by johnu1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know were playing for the playoffs this year ...

… but who do we see manning LF for us in the future …. i think an OF of Heisey/Stubbs/Bruce sound nice. Because of this, I wouldn’t mind using Gomes as trade bait this year so that Heisey gets some playing time.

How else are we supposed to get Cliff Lee? Homer and Gomes.

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by joshuar9476 on Jun 24, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda don't like doing this

(taking comments out of context) but this quote from W.J. is interesting, as we see it today, compared to what we saw in January.

“Right now, if he were to come up, the best opportunity might be in relief,‘’ Reds general manager Walt Jocketty said. "With (Edinson) Volquez coming back, and (Homer) Bailey’s not that far away, we don’t really have a need for a starter.’’

The Reds obviously knew all this even way back then, so it begs the question that some naysayers were spouting at the time: Why did we spend so much on a guy who we really didn’t need?

I am not on either side of the question but it has come to surface.

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by johnu1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

"we don’t really have a need for a starter......right now"

Next year when the teams buys out Harang and possibly Arroyo, that’s a different story. I’m guessing that’s what he meant.

Also, who knows what injury will pop up in the next month.

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by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That may be the dumbest damned thing you've ever written here. $12.75 mil for Harang in the bullpen?

Who the fuck do you think we are, the Cubs?

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by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

the $12.75M doesn't matter at this point

Harang may improve with a move to the bullpen, he still has command, he still can strike people out, with his low to mid 90s fastball and his nice slider, he might do very well for an inning at a time.

Who goes if Volquez and Bailey return in the next month?

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by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harang's FIP is 4.26

his xFIP is 4.08. that is best among the Reds’ starters. you really want to move him to the ’pen.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The question i have about those numbers

is his actually ERA has been well north of either/or his xFIP and FIP for three seasons now.

I like Harang, but he hasn’t performed as well as the rest of the staff. I don’ t know who to move to the bullpen if Volquez and Bailey return before Leake is shut down (if he is shutdown).

I also think Harang would perform well in relief, he is good at missing bats while finding the plate.

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by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

...which is why he's been good as a starter

much like the Zambrano case, his best asset is his durability. if you take that away, you are making him much less valuable.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the reds, as does every team, have a need for a top of the rotation pitcher

and given how well spread out the money in that contract is, I think it was a worthy chance on this guy maybe becoming that someday. What the team needs/might need this year shouldnt matter in cases like this.

by sharks2 on Jun 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Why did we spend so much on a guy who we really didn’t need?"

did anyone really naysay the signing because we dont need him? if so, that might be the most ridiculous thing ive heard since Oswalt-for-Strasburg. every team needs young pitching. it is perhaps the most precious commodity in baseball. i would sign 5 Chapmans if they were available. but of course, they are not. which is why you should sign the one that does come around when you have the chance.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps

discussion without the use of a flamethrower will work better.

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by johnu1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a good comp for Chapman might be Neftali Feliz

Feliz was good, but not lights out at AAA and had serious problems with control at AA, to the tune of a 4.6 BB/9. Granted Chapman’s a year older at AAA, but he’s better at missing bats. The move to the ‘pen in the majors for Feliz brought down his walk rate and bumped up his K-rate from his minor league numbers. I think the same could happen with Chapman, but the red flag is that he may miss valuable time learning the art of pacing and gameplan by staying in the bullpen. I’d be in favor of the move for this season – assuming he can show some improved control over a string of outings, but I’d really hope he gets stretched out again next season.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it

as a way to limit his innings. If he’s successful in the majors out of the pen, it helps his confidence and helps the team this year. If he isnt, then it should give him a better idea on what he needs to work on.

That said, my only problem with this is them doing it this early in the season, because right now I think he should be working on getting toward his inning count from last yr (whatever that may be, I’m sure the Reds know). I’m a little shaky on making this move on what feels a little like a desperation move by the organization.

by sharks2 on Jun 24, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, we aren't desperate just yet ...

If anything, this operation has shown more attachment to a “game plan” than a lot of mid- to small-market operations.

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by johnu1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see it as desperate at all.

Smart use of the assets available.

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by Madville on Jun 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't like it, at least not yet. Here's why:

1) I’m not convinced he’d help the team all that much. We all act like he can control his FB beautifully, but that’s just not true, at least not consistently. Also, I think there are better options available. If you really want to replace DRH (which I do) I think Bill Bray deserves a look first.

2) I don’t think he’s that needed right now. Yeah, we need to replace DRH, but Bray is the better option there. The only other person I see as needing eminent replacement is Owings, but I don’t think you call up Chapman to be the long man. If Smith or Ondrusek struggle, which is likely, I still think Del Rosario is a good option. He was misused when he was up earlier.

And all this ignores the fact that we’re talking about our middle relievers right now. I still believe in Masset, and clearly Dusty does too, so our 7-9 innings are basically set. Do we really want/need to call up Chapman to pitch some 6th innings?

And let’s dispense with the comparisons to guys like Oswalt and David Price, who started in the pen. Chapman is nowhere near as polished or ready as those guys were when they were called up. I want to see Chapman start 2011 in the rotation, and I don’t see that happening if he is stuck in the pen right now. I want to see him get 5-6 more starts in AAA, keep decreasing those walks and go deeper into games. If we need him in August, call him up and get him ready to be on the postseason roster!

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by nycredsfan on Jun 24, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not advocating for putting Chapman in the pen right now either

but I do think Feliz provides an encouraging comp. I’d agree that Bray should replace DRH. Then Smith and Owings are next on the block. Go trade, or if Bailey is back, stick a starter in there.

The Price comparisons are off the mark, but the broader statement that “Good starters have started in the bullpen” is an antidote to those that think putting Chapman in the pen is the end of the world. I think he has the potential to be used like Price was in 2008 and join the pen in the leadup to the playoffs – and then return to starting pitching for ST – or possibly some winter ball.

But they should look at him for the late August – September and possible post-season Super Bullpen. So I really think we’re in complete agreement.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 24, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya i agree

i think, unless the Reds get desperate, the best thing is for chapman to stay in the minors all season long

by cokane on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Chapman gets the call...if he does...

until September callups. He just won’t make that much of a difference for the next two months as a middle reliever.

But in September and in the playoffs? Yes, I am completely ok with that.

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by Cy Schourek on Jun 24, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Fay reads RR.

The punctuation annoys him.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jun 24, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

off topic - World cup stuff

US Coach throws up in mouth when he realized that Landon donovan is shorter than Danny Ray Herrera:

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by Madville on Jun 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

say, this is off-topic.

What sport is it?

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by johnu1 on Jun 24, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off days piss me off.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jun 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Living in LA, I find "late starts" to be refreshing. :)

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by PeteyHendrix on Jun 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

In defense of Stubbs

Is there any way to know how many times he’s reached on an infield error caused by the infielder rushing the play due to Stubbs’ speed? I realize that it’s kind of subjective, but I can think of four such occasions. Guess I’m just saying that it’s hard to quantify what someone with his ability brings to the offense by looking at traditional numbers. Maybe he causes some things that he doesn’t get credit for.

Damn, I wish I could write.

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by poojols on Jun 24, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Indians just claimed Jayson Nix off waivers

Maybe this weekend we can get them to take Laynce too

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by nycredsfan on Jun 24, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone here considered getting a roku box

to watch mlb.tv on an actual TV? I’m considering it, since it might be worth the $80 to get both mlb.tv and streaming netflix movies on my TV. It’s helped by the fact that I can’t stream netflix movies to my computer, since they won’t stream over linux.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

also, there is a guy i work with that has been using a roku box for quite some time

he said he liked it pretty well…

however, he did buy a ps3 2 days ago. maybe he’s looking to sell the roku!

by 'tHan on Jun 24, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you stream netflix over a ps3?

Huh.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and wii and xbox too

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by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm also a mario snob...

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by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

fifa is the best non-sports game ever.

yeah i had a 360 for a while. i got ridiculously addicted to halo. then i remembered how much i love mario, zelda, and metroid so i made the switch back. of course since i moved in with my gf i don’t have time for any of them so……..

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by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was playing a fair amount of guitar hero for a while

but stopped playing and just never went back to it…

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

guitar hero was fun for a bit

however, i never could get to the point where i could play it and actually blink. after 10 or 15 minutes, my eyes are shot and i have a headache

by 'tHan on Jun 24, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate guitar hero. I suck at it.

I think it’s honestly because I can actually play the real guitar.

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by ZJiff30 on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that is EXACTLY

why I had so much trouble when I took my first computer illustration class. I had no patience for learning all of Photoshop and Illustrator’s quirks of paths and strokes and fills, trying to use a mouse to guide a pointer that bent a line that…argghh! I wanted to just use my own hands to pick up a damn pencil and draw a damn apple on a good old-fashioned piece of paper, damn it!

by the finest muffins on Jun 24, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid calculator, it's nothing like my abacus!

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by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid abacus

it is nothing like my fingers!

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by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I knew what an abacus was actually for, I could make a proper retort.

But I think the better analogy would be, “Stupid calculator, it’s nothing like my brain!”

by the finest muffins on Jun 24, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

you need a pen tablet

Seriously, a mouse just doesn’t cut it. Try a pen tablet, and I think you’ll find Photoshop is a whole new world.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 24, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Wacom tablets were the new thing a year after I took that first class.

I’ve never used one, but I’m okay with that. Computer illustration will never be my thing.

by the finest muffins on Jun 24, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel your pain

I felt the same way when I got my first blow up doll

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by Madville on Jun 24, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish i could make a laynce nix joke here

but i can’t make anything work

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by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm awesome at guitar hero

But only because I play drums and piano, and that’s really all the game is

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Jun 25, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

cleaning has taken mine.

and the bachelorette or whatever show my fiance is watching.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

living the dream

"Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

by PeteyHendrix on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and dreaming to live

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i won't because i hear that the signal isn't true HD and i'm an HD snob

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, yeah.

It wouldn’t be. I’m used to watching it on my computer, though. So I think it would be better than that…

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind, i did some searching.

new models do offer HD connections and you can stream Blu-ray. intriguing…

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there's an HD connection

but you need to have a superfast Internet connection. I doubt that crappy Time Warner Cable would give me enough bandwidth for that.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

figures.. the review i read was written by guy who has Verizon FiOs.

still don’t understand why we can’t have that here.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, I don't have an HDTV

though I’m considering making this my one summer/birthday expenditure. I’d like to think that I could buy a roku and a 22-25" HDTV for $300-$400. Then again, I haven’t looked for a TV pretty much ever.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

I was hoping to keep it under $300, and I think a 25" one would be big enough. I guess I could look into this a bit more.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

TV prices have come waaaaaaaaay down

You could also look on Craigslist, people sell them cheap on there for the dumbest reasons.

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I imagine that would particularly work for the smaller ones...

when people decide they need a 50" one and all.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

“I have to sell this 46” 1080p, it just doesn’t fit my needs anymore! First person to offer $250 gets it!"

(For the record, I have a 40" 1080p and can’t imagine having anything bigger. )

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

both of my tv's are bigger!

they started out as a 250 dollar craigslist investment, but i kept buying and selling for profit!

by 'tHan on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're wasting your life on material possessions

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

investing in craigslist is a great idea.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just checked craigslist

and it looks like the people around here are trying to get $50 less than what they paid for the TVs a year or two ago.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, morans

You have to monitor it pretty closely, but those same people will eventually repost with a doable price. At least that’s what I’ve seen here.

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like it when i try to sell something

and people start with the trade offers.

no buddy, i don’t want your rusted out truck, or your livestock

by 'tHan on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

green'd

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Jun 25, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

This, too

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HAVE CASH AND I CAN COME RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this.

People say this…but, um, do they really think I would take anything but cash from them?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's always what i've wondered...

but i’m always amused because every time i list something on craigslist people email or text bragging about their CASH!!!!!!

by 'tHan on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only will I show up

but I’ll buy it RIGHT THEN!

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

precisely...

i especially like when the ad says “cash only”. really? you don’t take debit?

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have had a Roku box since they

first came out. They are really great, but even with fast broadband, you never
get true HD quality. It is much closer to 720p than 1080p. On a smaller set, 32" or less, the
picture is pretty damn good, but on a 50" it’s not perfect. An HD snob would not be thrilled. Our kids use
it to watch TV series mostly.

I dream of starting a three-man country trio called the Chixie Dicks.

by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jun 24, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will never have anything close to a 50" TV

but I’m surprised to hear that it actually does look like almost-HD quality. That would be more than enough for me.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sheldon has an article similar to the fanhouse one up now

He echoes the FanHouse piece noting that Votto has turned down offers to do national media publications.

My favorite quote was from Lou Pinella, though, saying that “Baseball needs more Joey Vottos” . I don’t think Cubs fans would share Lou’s sentiments. It would be like saying Baseball needs more Lance Berkman’s to a Reds fan.

by Red_Poodle on Jun 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Reds have officially signed Gary Matthews Jr. to a minor league deal and sent him to Louisville.

Expect him to hit .290 in 8 games and get called up before the ASB.

/ashnarronlovechild

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jun 24, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

You shut your whore mouth!

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

gawd, you might be right

From the Fay:

"We’re going to give him an opportunity to play everyday in center field in Louisville," Jocketty said. "That’s where he feels comfortable. He hasn’t played a lot in a while. The more he plays the better he plays.

"We’ll if he can get back to where he was and help the Major League club down the line."

He also comments on C-Dick:

The Reds don’t have a lot of depth in outfield at Triple-A. Chris Dickerson is eligible to come off the disabled list June 29.

"But we think he’s going to a little while," Jocketty said.

Not sure what that means. He’s going to come off the DL in a little while?

He’s going to rehab in Louisville for a little while?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 24, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You copied/pasted that right?

I rarely complain about Fay’s lack of grammar, but damn dude.

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 24, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, it's copied and pasted

He’s posted a lot of articles today, so maybe he’s had less time for proofreading than usual.

For example, this about Dusty’s getting bashed by SI.

Someone of blog wonder if Baker would hear about the column. You can bet he will.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 24, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is really bad

makes me and you look like perfectionists

by Red_Poodle on Jun 25, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

but we have an excuse

grad school sucks away all our brain power.

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by justin007000 on Jun 25, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He wrote one post today or yesterday...

When he meant to say “err on the side of caution,” but said “error on the side of caution.” Freudian silp?

by the finest muffins on Jun 24, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

jiminey

ive been disagreeing lately with a lot of saber-jerks i usually like. im not sure what that means.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 24, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love them now that I have a job

I just wished the Reds played every day.

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by justin007000 on Jun 24, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Update from ESN MLB - Deadbirds and LaLoser - LOSE

Cardinals 0 (40-32, 17-20 away)
Blue Jays 5 (39-34, 20-17 home)

* Final

 
W: Morrow (5-5) L: Wainwright (10-5)
HR " TOR: Wells 2 (18), Lind (9)
STL: Wainwright (10-5, 2.47 ERA)
TOR: Morrow (5-5, 4.50 ERA)
 

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