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Red Reposter - Who Has Two Thumbs and Has Been Swept By Two Last Place Teams This Season?

Since injuring his ankle, Lando has really suffered.  His OPS is .262 in his last 40 PAs.  I do respect the guy for his tenacity, but not if it hurts the club like this.  Dude's gotta sit.

Topping the charts this week on the Red Reposter Hot Hot Caliente Countdown is this longing elegy to the Reds offense.  It's Missing from that too-hip-to-be-attractive English duo Everything but the Girl.  We miss you guys, like the deserts miss the rain.  Or is it "Devil's Masquerade"?  "Devil's Masked Parade"?  Either way, they are gone and it suuuuuucks.  - 6 - In their last 6 losses the Reds have totaled only 6 runs.  They have faced four of the finest starters in the league in that stretch in Zack Greinke, Clayton Kershaw, Cliff Lee, and Felix Hernandez, but they've also been stymied by such character actors as Hiroki Kuroda and Ryan Rowland-Smith

  • Dusty says the team absolutely needs to bounce back tonight and beat the A's
    "We’ve got no choice," Baker said. "It would have been a good one to get today with St. Louis winning. But we’ll win tomorrow and be one back because they’re off." So this is what we have been reduced to, celebrating when the Cardinals have a day off. Woof.

  • Scott Rolen's Day Off Math with Dusty Baker
    Rolen started Sunday's afternoon game, which has been a rare occurrence this season.  Dusty has been careful to keep the old man fresh. "It all depends on how he feels, how many consecutive games we have coming up," manager Dusty Baker said. "We're facing a lefty [Ryan Rowland-Smith] today. He'll probably get Wednesday off. I don't want to give him Sunday and Wednesday off. We're off Thursday, so that will give him two days off." If only we could give Orlando Cabrera two days off...forever!

  • They call him "Hall o' Famer" Hal for a reason
    Here's his take on the weekend: "It was almost excusable when they were shut out, 1-0, Friday by Cliff Lee. And it was almost excusable when they lost Saturday, 5-1, by Felix Hernandez. Those are two top-shelf, top-quality, top-of-the-heap pitchers. But Ryan Roland-Smith? He was 0-6 going into Sunday’s game and the Reds figured to knock the hyphen out of his last name."

  • Good news everyone!
    Ryan Hanigan did some pregame bullpen catching on Sunday. He's been hitting for a while, but this was his first time donning the Tools of Ignorance since breaking his thumb. "It's going to be sore but it's close to tolerable," Hanigan said on Sunday. "It gets a little better every day. We're just trying to keep it from getting blown up now. I'm pretty optimistic I've turned the corner. We'll see how it feels today from catching." I'm not going to pretend that he is the savior of this offense, but it would be great to have him back. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll be back by the Fourth of July.

  • The Fay is worried that this Reds team is repeating the missteps of years past
    Specifically, the '04 team that went on an 0-7 skid after an interleague trip out west. We are definitely in the trough right now, but I think this team is different from those teams of the past. Those teams floundered because once the offense started to sputter, they didn't have the pitching and defense to steady the ship. It's funny, because going into this season the offense was the #1 worry. I figured the pitching was good and the defense was great, but then they came out and started leading the league in hitting. This is probably just a market correction, because I don't believe for a minute that this offense is the best in the league. But while they may not bounce back this week, I'm confident that they are not going away so easily. As long as we avoid big injuries, we will be watching meaningful baseball in August and September.

  • Hall o' Famer Hal sez Edinson Volquez could be back in mid-July
    Q If all goes well for Edinson Volquez and he has no setbacks, when is the soonest we might see him back? — P-Dub, Independence
    A He has made two starts in Class A and he is supposed to make two starts in Class AA and two starts in Class AAA. Didn’t he make that advancement already in his career? This, though, is different. He is on rehab. If all goes well (does it ever?) he could be back by mid-July. The Reds are thinking they might ease him back in with some bullpen work, where they need help the most.


    I love the idea of putting Volquez in the 'pen. The lighter work load would be much better on his recovering arm (and make no mistake, he will be recovering for still more months even though he may be back to pitching), and I think his already electric stuff would really play up out of the bullpen.

Star-divide

  • Dusty Baker speaks of Daniel Ray Herrera's height like it's a debilitating and embarrassing congenital defect
    Asked about DRH's scoreless performance on Saturday: "He needs it and we need it," Reds manager Dusty Baker said. "This guy, he's fighting. That's all he knows. Imagine if you're 5-6. His whole life has been a fight. If anybody knows how to fight to keep what he already has fought to get, it would be him."

  • Yasmani Grandal's Miami Hurricanes were eliminated from the NCAA tournament
    so he's now open to sign a deal with the Reds and begin his pro career. But Walt and the Reds aren't pressuring him. Yonder Alonso and Mike Leake didn't sign until the deadline in mid-August so I would expect nothing else from Grandal. Personally, I'd like to see him get some pro ABs this summer, but I guess the Reds don't think it is as important.

  • McPaper (ba da ba ba journalism!) asked players what they thought of instant replay
    Our middle infield had this to say:
    "We need to make the game different from other sports. On close plays, the umpires should get together and talk about it instead of leaving the field to look at a computer. I think you just have to live with your mistakes." -- Reds second baseman Brandon Phillips.
    "I think they should do it for important games, maybe the playoffs." -- Reds shortstop Orlando Cabrera.

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    im a big fan on knocking the hyphen outta last names

    way to go Hal, lead the charrrrrrrrrrge!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

    i like wins more than losses

    i think losses are a terribly overrated counting statistic

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

    (giggle)

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Anybody else nervous about Leake tonight?

    it seems that he may be turning into a pumpkin before our very eyes.

    Cincinnati Reds-Rebuilding since 2001...

    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

    Nope.

    My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

    by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

    /1980s'd

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    nope

    but his innings are racking up

    im more worried that he is going to have to be shut down IF the team is in contention in September

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

    yeah, send him down and get Maloney up here!

    And start Harang on three days rest every time out!

    He fixes the cable?

    by Colin Auscapee on Jun 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I went to Seattle,

    and all I got was this lousy run!

    by Gapper on Jun 21, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

    Cabrera really needs to sit

    which I guess requires some real assertiveness from Dusty. He’s injured, in a terrible slump and the Reds are facing a lefty tonight, with Leake on the mound. Textbook Janish time.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

    ftfy

    Cabrera really needs to sit get traded.

    I know I’m a bit ridiculous in my Lando disdain, but look at the guy’s numbers. For all of Stubbs’ strikeouts, at least he’s sorta getting on base and hitting for some power. And his defense is great.

    Lando literally brings nothing to the table right now. His wOBA right now is .285(!). That’s unbelievably bad, and while he’s been a bit unlucky on BABIP, he’s never going to walk or hit for power. His OBP is .286. In the leadoff spot. Don’t look now Reds fans, but we’re encountering our 3rd straight year of the worst offensive player on the team batting leadoff. I like Janish, but we all know he’s not the answer either. Walt needs to bite the bullett and trade for a real SS, soon.

    see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

    by nycredsfan on Jun 21, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

    It's almost impressive how often the worst hitter on the team

    has risen to the top of Dusty’s batting order over the last three seasons. I agree that Cabrera is a drain, but I think it’s at least partly because he’s playing hurt. I can’t delude myself into thinking Janish would hit better against righties than a healthy Cabrera. So, like you say, the best solution is probably a trade.

    But if the choice is between acquiring a shortstop for the remainder of this season, and getting some pitching help, and just as soon go with Janish.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I was the worst hitter on my Little League team and I batted leadoff most of the time.

    But that was only so I could get my obligatory at bat over with early in the game.
    That, and my OBA wasn’t bad, I got hit by a lot of pitches.

    by ThisonebelongstotheReds on Jun 21, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I would much rather go with Janish's D, and try and upgrade the pitching somewhere, somehow

    this was supposed to be a pitching and defense year, but the D has been noticeably worse this year than last, and it seems the pitching is worse this year than last as well….

    It looks like our offense is coming back down to or has come back down to Earth, so we need to improve our pitching and defense, and get back to the basics of this team.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Not worse defense.

    2009 Reds: .985 fielding percentage
    2010 Reds: .990 fielding percentage, at times the best in baseball.

    And the 2010 Reds had an 11-game errorless streak.

    "Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

    by PeteyHendrix on Jun 21, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

    fielding percentage?

    Really Petey?

    tsk tsk (shaking head)

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

    wait til Saturday

    the stat of all stats is unveiled

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

    OK, show me how they're worse in some way other than by your anecdotal memory. :)

    "Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

    by PeteyHendrix on Jun 22, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I was looking for DER, but couldn't find it

    So I give up.

    I hate defensive metrics, but none more than Fielding %

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 22, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Fielding % is not a great metric.

    But subjective memory from an incomplete sample is much worse.

    "Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

    by PeteyHendrix on Jun 22, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Chuck is being daft, but I agree here

    If it comes down to one or the other, I will trust the opinion of a man that’s played, watched, and been around baseball for 45+ years in a heartbeat over any metric you come up with.

    Granted, the two should supplement and complement each other. But that’s in a perfect world.

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 22, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

    You're on a roll today!

    first I’m fat, now I have a small dick!

    The hits just keep on coming!

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 23, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

    don't forget ugly, fatty mcshortdick :)

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 23, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Then it's my fault I thought I remembered the Reds being worse/lower in DER this year than last year

    Visually they don’t look good defensively, though.

    SS is a black hole of suck.
    LF we were better off with Dunn.
    CF even Stubbs has looked shaky (which surprises me).

    The rest seem kinda status quo from last year.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 23, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Jesus H Christ

    I cannot even think, that is how incensed I am that he has not been DL’ed or at least sat. How must Janish feel? He’s sitting behind a cripple that cannot run, hit or field his position. And it’s all because lando is a “winner” and a “gamer” and all this other hot horseshit. Shit is for real infuriating.

    He fixes the cable?

    by Colin Auscapee on Jun 21, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yep

    My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

    by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Here's an idea:

    Since Phillips has taken to fielding Cabrera’s position in addition to his own, why don’t we sit Cabrera and instead use a fourth softball-style outfielder?

    by Gapper on Jun 21, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

    sheldon's off a bit

    edinson’s in louisville and is supposed to start for the Bats wednesday. that could put him in cincinnati by early july, if the team thinks its still worth it

    chairman of the committee

    by boobsinho on Jun 21, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

    Given the 0.33333 run per game peformance in the Seattle series

    There’s no reason not to run out this lineup against the lefty tonight:

    Heisey
    Phillips
    Votto
    Rolen
    Gomes
    Bruce
    Hernandez
    Janish
    Leake

    And you could probably bat Leake 7th

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

    hitting Leake instead of a DH?

    maybe Leake should bat and we can DH Stubbs for Janish!

    Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

    by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Oh yeah

    Oakland. Oops.

    So Stubbs and Heisey both play. And Heisey leads off.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Bring it on

    We’ll smoke him out.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

    he cost me in fantasy this week, putting up -8 points

    I’m pretty bitter about it, seeing as I lost by 4 points for the week….

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Rosales & Heisey will both hit a HR in the series

    but Rosales will beat him by at least .5 seconds in the time it takes to round the bases

    Rosales will OPS .850 for the series, and will make at least 2 key defensive plays.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I'd rather see Phillips lead off, let the rook bat second

    Phillips
    Heisey
    Votto
    Rolen
    Gomes
    Bruce
    Hernandez
    Janish
    Leake

    My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

    by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

    This is a very small point

    I don’t think you mess with Phillips. He’s hitting just fine where he is. He seems to press a little in the clean-up spot and I think there might be a real difference in his approach as “lead off man.” He also might be a little less likely to steal in the second spot, which he should be doing less of in general.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I don't have anything against Venezuelans,

    but I wish ours were young and healthy, not old and broke-assed.

    Okay, I'll be honest with you. I did fart.

    by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jun 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

    Oh shit,

    Cabrera is from Columbia. I don’t have anything against them either, but the above statement applies to them also.

    Okay, I'll be honest with you. I did fart.

    by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jun 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

    That's tellin' em, Joe.

    "Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

    by PeteyHendrix on Jun 21, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Or, you know...

    Colombia.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

    It is okay.

    If you’re talking about capital of South Carolina, the town containing the University of Missouri, the university in New York City, or the space shuttle.

    by the finest muffins on Jun 21, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

    On a side note,

    Native Americans sing using only vowels.

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

    yeah

    even OSU chants out an H

    (but i think they should focus on the S and the U instead)

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

    that's tradition

    i hate schools that rename themselves. too wishy washy. pick a collegiate moniker and stick with it, asstards.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    they aren't always red!

    my brother in law is Fire Chief up here in Unionville, CT, and they have yellowish-green apparatus

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I've been to Hicksville

    can’t remember why, but I remember the name

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

    no, I wanna say I was traveling to a junior golf tourney

    and my Dad, ever the comedian, had to take me thru “Hicksville” just cuz

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

    My Dad did, yes

    I was 15 @ the time, so driving really wasn’t up to me

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

    My Dad thought it would be funny to drive thru Hicksville

    I didn’t get it either, but I wasn’t driving, so I had no choice in our route

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i've been to No Shame Night

    remember why but can’t remember the name

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

    phonetically, Colombia and Columbia sound completely different

    but, lazy Americans pronounce them the same, so to make life easier on us lazy Americans, let’s have universal spelling!

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

    depends

    sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t, since that’s a phonetically versatile word

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

    So what your saying is...

    Phonetic mistakes can be excused, unless they become a typo in the name of a spaceship?

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Maybe?

    I’m missing something here

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Come on

    Sure it does

    When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

    by poojols on Jun 22, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

    District of Colombia?

    "Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK

    by ZJiff30 on Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

    red light district?

    Cincinnati Reds-Rebuilding since 2001...

    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Also, why in the sake of fuck

    would you want to put Volquez (clearly one of our very best pitchers) in the bullpen, where he would cover less innings? Bump a lesser talent (Harang, LeCure) from the rotation.

    He fixes the cable?

    by Colin Auscapee on Jun 21, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

    mainly because Edinson is coming off arm surgery

    and he’s on the extremely fast track back.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yeah, but why would they wait til he could throw 7 innings to bring him up

    Only to put him in the bullpen? It’s not going to happen. Knit a sweater instead of typing so much.

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    is this not what is going on now?

    he threw five innings last time out (granted, against meager competition). How does it help to build endurance when you are not throwing a lot of pitches? It would seem that relieving would hinder development of endurance because substantial innings demands would not be placed on a pitcher.

    I’m curious if anyone can provide any instances of someone having setbacks after returning from TJ surgery that were attributed to throwing too many innings too quickly. My understanding is that anymore, you come back feeling better and throwing harder. Why would we even be building his pitch counts if that was not the way we planned to use him?

    Edinson for the rotation!

    He fixes the cable?

    by Colin Auscapee on Jun 21, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I'm going to go ahead and say I have absolutely no idea what's going on inside

    his arm or whether rotation or bullpen is best. But I think the Reds need at least one other dependable arm for the rotation or bullpen (depending on where Volquez goes) in order to stay competitive.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Throwing a lot of pitches is what I mean by endurance

    Bullpen or starter? Tough to call. I sure don’t know enough to hazard a guess. They can manipulate his appearances and have him throw bullpens and after short appearances, but then you limit his usefulness as a reliever.

    by ol Pete on Jun 21, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Mike Lincoln has had TJ twice

    but Jose Rijo had it three times

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

    "you come back feeling better and throwing harder"

    That’s a myth.

    If you’re going to recover from TJ surgery, you have to be very meticulous about physical therapy. Some players, who didn’t work that hard when they didn’t have to, will notice an improvement. But TJ surgery itself doesn’t let pitchers throw harder.

    As for setbacks from rushing back…they are a dime a dozen. Octavio Dotel and Carl Pavano come to mind.

    I’d love see Voltron back, but I don’t think it’s realistic to rely on it. It usually takes a full 12 months or more for a pitcher to recover from TJ surgery.

    All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

    by BubbaFan on Jun 21, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yep.

    Come back too soon, and you’re Jose Rijo.

    "Don't turn off the TV if we've still got bats in our hands." - Dusty Baker

    by PeteyHendrix on Jun 21, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Not if they try to rush him back

    All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

    by BubbaFan on Jun 21, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    world series mvp!

    all the reds have to do is fire dusty, cut OCab, play Janish, bat Hanigan leadoff and trade for Cliff Lee and the WS trophy will be in the ’Nati.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I predict we kick their asses in this series.

    My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

    by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Put up a prediction over there

    Bad thing about this series is its midnight baseball. Brews played the Angels a week or so ago. The S.O. asks if the game is almost over and it had been going about an hour.

    by ol Pete on Jun 21, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I predict that you are a Debby Downer

    My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

    by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

    So, um.

    Is any beat writer going to ask anybody with power why the hell Cabrera continues to play while obviously hurt?

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

    Some beautiful logic from fya

    in his latest post:

    But when you do not score runs, you do not win. Genius, no?

    Benching one of the starting eight is not a viable option. The team leads the NL in about every important offensive category. Dusty Baker could play Paul Janish more until Orlando Cabrera is healthy. Janish is a nice player, but not the type to ignite an offense.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

    How about to ignite the Defense?

    Or maybe get to a ball, since that’s something SloCab lacks

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yes, there's that

    and also the point that while Janish isn’t going to be an offensive star, he’s very unlikely to be anywhere close to as bad as Cabrera is offensively right now.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    he's piss poor with the stick

    you read it here first

    tHan will be along shortly to second the motion

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yeah, I get that you think Janish is the worst hitter ever.

    You’ve certainly said it more than enough times.

    Regardless, Cabrera is hitting worse.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

    This is pretty strictly a platoon issue for me

    Cabrera is terrible across the board right now. Janish has been terrible against righties, to the tune of .191/.283/.300 in the majors, but better against against lefties at .252/.336 /.311. His minor league splits bear this out. Given his defense, he’s a lock to be better than Cabrera against lefties right now, so there shouldn’t be a hesitation about starting him.

    If Cabrera is injured, obviously Janish should play fulltime. But at the very least, this needs to be a platoon based on when Leake pitches and when a lefty is on the mound.

    Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

    no shit

    janish and his .210/.300/.303 career line can suck it in AAA

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    And what about Orlando Cabrera

    and his .247/.286/.339 season line with way below average defense?

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

    This is definitely not true.

    Anyone in baseball watching the past few games would tell you that Cabrera is absolutely horrible defensively.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

    the announcers for opposing teams in each series say cabrera is good defensively

    i know this because you guys point out their comments and make fun of them

    over the weekend this happened to thom, marty, and the mariners announcers

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

    none of those people employed in baseball

    know what the hell they’re talking about. duh!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

    watching doesnt prove it is so

    that’s the same logic as scouts relying on visuals and not mathematical stats.

    didnt you read Moneyball?!?

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Look, I get that this is your thing.

    I’m not here to argue with someone determined to play an idiot.

    But we all know that (1) Janish is no offensive powerhouse, but (2) Orlando Cabrera is really, really sucking right now, both offensively and defensively.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    HLM21 will concur

    Veteran Respect. Gotta have it on a successful ballclub.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Well, I disagree with you on that.

    If a veteran insists on playing when he’s clearly injured enough to be hurting the team, that’s not something a team should be respecting.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Talk to The Dusty about that

    by my estimation, SloCab should be on the 15 day DL, and shouldn’t have played in the LA or Seattle series

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    and it bats 3rd

    in the world of The Dusty

    Which begs the question, why on Earth isn’t The Dusty batting SloCab 3rd?

    He’s finally stopped with that CF, SS nonsense, but if he sticks with Veteran/Respect batting 3rd, then Rolen or SloCab should bat 3rd, right?

    The Dusty loves him some Veteran Respect/Leadership

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Veteran Respect/3rd

    the top candidates for VR/3 on this club, in order

    Rolen
    BP
    OCab

    Votto, Bruce and Stubbs don’t have enough service time.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

    VR/3, love it

    On this current roster, no one should come close in that department to Rolen (so he should automatically bat 3rd, duh)

    After Rolen, I’d have to give it to SloCab and then BP (I guess), although I prefer Votto to BP in terms of talent, and The Dusty seems to factor talent into whom he bats 3rd.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Gray,

    obc is just sticking with his strengths.

    On a different topic, Only Yesterday arrived today. It will probably be the next book I read.

    Thanks.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i read a lot of journals online for research

    it is a pleasure to hold a real book in my hands. Plus it makes my book shelf bigger!

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

    not sMarty and tHom.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

    small sample size

    ebbs and flows. you’re picking on him during a valley stage of the season.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

    He has 296 PAs this year.

    Paul Janish only has 429 PAs lifetime, and you’re perfectly fine using that statistic.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

    its using 100% of his career stats

    I could use his minor league stats and compare them to Rosales and Cabrera but I fear that would be extremely slanted in the favor of Mssrs Rosales and Cabrera.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    indeed. janish is terrible offensively

    aaron miles level bad

    if he did get to play it wouldn’t be long before you turned on him too.

    i don’t know why rosales got belittled by everyone is clamoring for janish

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Rosales is undeniably better offensively

    but he isn’t a shortstop. So it’s an apples and oranges comparison. Janish fields the position as well as virtually anyone in the league.

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    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

    That's both a commentary on the plight of Janish

    and of Billy Beane’s soccer fandom.

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    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Janish is terribly offensive!

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Janish is definitely piss poor with the stick

    but he’s far from piss poor defensively, which is what the Reds need, especially @ SS

    piss poor offensively with stellar defense (hi Stubbs!) I can tolerate. piss poor offensively with zero defense I just cannot stomach. Right now, I cannot stomach SloCab.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    uh, cabrera's OBP is reportedly .289. Janish's career numbers ain't too far from that

    so this statement

    anywhere close to as bad as Cabrera is offensively right now
    is demonstrably and statistically untrue.

    With that said, if they are both not hitting, seems like a good time to get Janish some AB’s. it might end these interminable discussions about Janish’s supposed super powers and it would improve a defense which allowed 7 runs in three games. Because every epic drought in run scoring calls for an injection of Janish!

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

    This isn't just a slump: Cabrera's playing hurt.

    In 78 PAs in June, he’s hitting .189/.221/.297. Yes, Janish could do better than that.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

    And then the Reds could allow 7 runs against the M's and still lose all three games

    You are positing a solution to a problem that, at this time, does not exist. Janish is the solution to poor defense not poor offense

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    And how has RR favorite Drew Stubbs escaped the derision he deserves from the terrible AB he had yesterday with men on the corners

    No, the contempt is saved for a guy who did NOT come up with the go ahead run on third, who strikes out 35% of the time, and failed yet again. When can one of the Chris’s play regularly for Stubbs?

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

    You're missing the point here, too.

    Drew Stubbs is not an offensive powerhouse, but he’s hitting .242/.316/.401 on the season (recall: Cabrera’s at .247/.286/.339). He’s also a way-above-average defender at an important position (recall: Cabrera is sucking defensively), and beyond that he’s fast.

    Oh, and he’s not being trotted out in the leadoff slot every day.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    yet only one of them choked yesterday with a chance to get a slumping ball club a lead

    and only one of them has an actual hitter who could replace them well sitting on the bench

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Again, you're saying exactly the same thing as fya.

    Orlando Cabrera is currently a problem. One solution is Paul Janish. His defense would be much better, and his offense would almost certainly be incrementally better.

    I am in no way arguing that Janish is an offensive savior for this team.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Okay, how about this?

    The disease is that the team isn’t good enough. Should we make a move that would improve the team or not?

    Jesus, I don’t even know what you’re arguing against any more.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

    We need to make a move to improve the offense, defense & pitching

    Or more specifically, moves. We need to make moves. Shuffling the deck chairs is not the answer to solving any of our current problems.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

    checklist of needs

    better starting pitching
    better relief pitching
    better bats in starting lineup
    better bats on bench
    better gloves in starting lineup

    easy breezy!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i request they dress less

    whatever that looks like

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

    if they tan, they shave

    one of Coughlin’s Laws

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    I misread that

    I thought it said “one of Coutlangus’s Laws”.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i disagree

    i hate most of the new innovations at the ballpark. CHEESE CONEY CAM!

    but cheerleaders are ok with me

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

    That sounds soo good.

    Damn you social branding!

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

    when I was at the game on Friday, June 11th, I wondered why they had the 3 dancers in short RF doing YMCA

    and then I thought the parents of the one blonde must be really proud of their daughter as the dude wheelbarrowed her in front of 25K fans

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I'd put better relief above starting

    We have enough bodies to put together a competent (ringing endorsement, I know) starting rotation.

    I’m not convinced, however, that we have the right personnel to improve our relief corp within our organization.

    I really wish we could go get a guy that can rake, and we can put in the middle of the lineup, and play @ either SS, C, or LF. I think that need would take care of our bench and our gloves (well, maybe not).

    If the Reds aren’t actively buying within the next month, then screw Walt, and screw Bob.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i kinda want to try Harang in the bullpen

    he did a great job in 2008!

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I agree that moves need to be made.

    But we’re back to the same argument that people have made on this site as long as I’ve been here. We should make moves that will improve the team. We should not rule out making a move simply because it won’t transform the team all by itself.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    how about what I already said

    A = Reds are losing because they are not scoring runs
    B = Paul Janish plays SS, as does the hated Cabrera
    C = Janish is terrible offensively, so is Cabrera (at the present)

    To solve A, one needs to do C. Lack of offense is not solved by insertion of Janish.

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    First of all, a lackluster offense does not mean we don't need to worry about defense.

    Secondly, Janish would be an improvement (albeit a slight one) offensively over Cabrera in his current form. I don’t understand why you’re arguing that a move that would yield a small improvement isn’t worth it.

    I get that it wouldn’t make the team a 100-game winner. But if it would be a slight improvement, why argue so vehemently against it?

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i think you are both missing the point

    Cabrera is hurt. he needs to be DL’d. Janish is the only replacement on the team.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

    This is the point I started out making

    but for some reason people feel the need to argue that Janish, while an improvement, sucks too much to be used over someone who sucks more.

    IDGI.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    So you're arguing only for the sake of arguing.

    Okay, that makes sense.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

    So we're "discussing" your claim

    that an obviously hobbled Cabrera is better than Janish?

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

    No, I'm discussing your claim that a team in an offensive drought needs to play Janish

    I find it less than compelling.

    In fact, since I’ve made that same point ten times over, I’m getting bored with continuing to drum on about it.

    I’ll leave the field to you, Gray

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

    whenever RR hits the doldrums

    i wish that Paul Janish was a mod so this place would be more successful

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

    come on man

    anyone is better than an injured player. aside from whatever perceived vendetta you think someone has, that should be self-evident.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

    False

    Miguel Cairo or Paul Janish < Injured Scott Rolen….depending on the injury.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

    let's say it's an injury

    that makes it extremely difficult for him to hit, run, or field his position.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    granted

    i’ll modify my statement so that it is not a universal. how’s ’bout “most anyone is better than an injured player”.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i don't think that's true at all

    most people aren’t professional baseball players.

    i bet scott rolen would be better with one arm than me or justin playing healthy

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I don't have a vendetta against Cabrera

    but I’d like to see Janish start more because from what I’ve seen he is head-and-shoulders over Lando defensively, and I don’t believe that Cabrera is all that good offensively.

    I wouldn’t bat either player in the top 7 spots in the order.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Vendetta!

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I didn't accuse you of having said vendetta

    gray, Chuckles, NYC…..well, you get my drift.

    Who would Slyde bat lead-off?

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    as i recall

    those lead off numbers were buoyed by tremendous stretches from Bruce and Cherry. and i think Dickerson did most of his damage that August from the lead off spot. so yeah, CoPat was that bad.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

    agree'd

    but he did hit lead off for a time that season and did well, as i recall. Slyde’s numbers prove me otherwise.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I disagree

    I think he might be a decent lead-off hitter now. I wouldn’t mind if they tried him out there a bit, but I’m also not up-in-arms that they haven’t.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    compared to what has been run out there the past 3+years

    yes, i think Bruce is better. but i’d rather have him hitting lower in the order though with someone who can get on base better up top. ’course, that means finding someone who can get on base.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i deal in absolutes

    i don’t want to hear any “maybes” or “mights” or “wouldn’t minds”

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

    if I'm projecting someone

    I ain’t giving you any absolutes. I’m no dummy.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    that's debatable.

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    by ZJiff30 on Jun 21, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Bring back Cherry!

    Lead-off hitters over the last 3 years (min 100 PA as lead-off):

    Player             PA    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS
    Jerry Hairston 248 .330 .388 .471 .858
    Chris Dickerson 274 .284 .363 .465 .828
    Drew Stubbs 281 .232 .300 .382 .682
    Jay Bruce 106 .238 .264 .396 .660
    Orlando Cabrera 177 .250 .291 .329 .621
    Willy Taveras 368 .236 .275 .289 .564
    Corey Patterson 155 .182 .217 .322 .539

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

    in context here, I'd say leading off has come up

    but who am I.

    Vendetta = opinion? Now, who is guilty of hyperbole? I never said the two were equal. In fact, I kept my arguments pretty precise.

    As for the closing question about leading off, I wasn’t being a smart ass. Sorry for asking, but looking at the stats it looks like it should be Corey Patterson

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

    You seem to be using the term "vendetta" pretty loosely.

    I’m not clear on why you say I have a vendetta. As evinced by…my opinion that Cabrera should be sitting on the bench when he’s injured?

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Okay, so by "vendetta"

    you mean “opinion expressed more times than timb116 would like.”

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

    If only!

    let’s drop it, agree to disagree about it, and I promise I will leave it alone.

    I would love to start a site of sycophants, but damn it, even my 3 year old won’t agree with me enough!

    And, you can call me Tim (cue Monty Python)

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Good timing, since I'm about to leave my office anyway!

    Totally dropping it now.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    you said, "because it's not an improvement; it's a vendetta"

    I was only trying to point out that I have no vendetta against Cabrera, but I believe that Janish should be starting more over Cabrera. I’m not going after hyperbole (though calling anything on this site a vendetta seems like hyperbole, if you ask me). Whatever, I’m already sick of the whole discussion, so…

    I didn’t think you were being a smart ass on the lead-off question. I’m just tired of people acting like it is an unsolvable problem. Stop overthinking it and put a damn hitter there that can get on base.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Bruce, Gomes, Rolen, Phillips, Hernandez, & Votto

    all have an OBP over .340 this year. Maybe one of them can keep it up?

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Phillips is the only guy I'd bat leadoff of that group

    Definitely not CMM.

    Gomes seems to be thriving in the middle of the lineup, so why screw that up?

    Bruce is a maybe, but I didn’t like him leading off when he made his debut.

    Rolen and Votto need to stay in the middle of the lineup with Gomes.

    Just not a lot of options to leadoff.

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Again, my point is that we are overthinking the whole "lead-off" thing

    just put someone there and pretend they are batting 2nd or 3rd or 8th. I don’t care.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

    we know that cant happen though

    Dusty would never hit a player lead off if he cant steal a base. as easy as it sounds to just slot in a hitter with a good OBP, it just isnt.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Point taken

    Hell yeah, vendetta is hyperbole, but why can’t I use my Thesaurus?

    For my two cents, just like the ‘90 Reds made Barry lead off when he reportedly didn’t want to, I’d make BP do it and move Bruce to 2nd. I’d like to see Jay get more AB’s anyway

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    whoah whoah whoah whoah there

    then you’d have two lefties in a row. Gawd, don’t you know anything about baseball?

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

    im not thrilled with this roster

    none of the options seem ideal

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    which is why I believe you should just stick someone in there

    and move on (TWSS). Honestly, I’d just move OCab down to 7th or 8th and bump everyone up a slot. But then, OMG, Votto would be batting 2nd and he can’t bunt

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

    you think Ocab is a highly superior hitter when compared to Janish

    to me it is a coin flip.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

    reds are pitching to contact again?

    they should try to hit to contact also!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    the Reds are certainly contact challenged right now

    strikeouts don’t bother me, and never will

    but, not being selective, and swinging early and often in the count pisses me off to no end, especially from guys like Votto and Bruce

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

    low OBP bothers me

    and the Reds have a whole mess of out makers on the roster.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

    low OBP bothers me as well!

    which is why I’ve never liked BP offensively

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

    win the pennant

    play janish!

    i love a lineup with Cairo, Janish, Nix and Corky

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Everybody has a bench

    And they don’t start for a reason.

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

    the reds have players who don't start

    but i’d argue they don’t have a bench

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Corky starts some

    Cairo starts some

    Nix doesn’t start enough!

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I concur

    he ruined my Opening Day

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Pujols ruined it for me...

    but when I walked in and saw “Nix” in the starting lineup I may have let an expletive slip out.

    by DocRam on Jun 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    incorrect

    OD is two weeks out, next burger is brisket/short rib/prime concoction

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I have money again

    So I should be able to make an appearence

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

    we should take him to MAB&G

    there is a 1/2 off coupon online!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

    pretty sure none of you will ever willingly go to MAB&G ever again

    however, I’m convinced Gordo’s is the best in Cincinnati, right now

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

    beats me

    its only $8 platter

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I'm surprised we didn't drink any of that @ Gordo's

    although I’m still proud of you drinking multiple High Life

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

    it's a novelty beer

    you’re drinking Jimmy Buffet’s pisswater. It’s still pisswater, but it’s famous pisswater!

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

    it takes a lot to drink multiple high life

    a lot of bad taste….

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

    apples & oranges!

    I would hope a specialty beer would taste better than a macro-brew!

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

    all the rest are being dishonest

    and saying they like it because its a hipster beverage of choice. its shitty.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    and it's local

    and it’s popular to like local shit

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I don't like it either

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    by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    he has a good taste in beer

    bad taste in food

    questionable taste is automobiles, employers and, until recently, women

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I interviewed again today

    It went really well.

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

    it's an everyday beer!

    it’s no different than the other macro-brews of the world

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

    its no Bud Select

    settle down Bevis (another hicktown!)

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i am not big ofnmacro-brews

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    not many people are, but they're typically cheaper

    and if you’re drinking to get drunk, why waste good beer?

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

    yeah

    i drink beer because it’s delicious, not because i want to get drunk. if i just want to be drunk i will drink something far more efficient. an $8 dollar bottle of vodka will fuck you up much better than a 6-pack of anything.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

    this is why he buys an amber bock at the ballpark

    and everyone else is chugging bud.

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    by ZJiff30 on Jun 21, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    damn straight

    my one Amber Bock was more satisfying and delicious than whatever number of Buds Bren-Bren and Ash drank. and i drove home that evening safely!

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

    At the ballpark, maybe

    But $2 High Lifes and $5 Dragon Bombs at the Southern Belle can’t be topped. Plus I didn’t drive straight home. I drove to meet Ash and sukr at another bar.

    by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I agree with scrabbles

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

    you start with 3 good beers

    kill the taste buds and switch to more fiscally responsible beer selections.

    again, if you’re not contributing to a 401(k) you shouldnt be purchasing craft beers.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    purchasing micro-brews

    stimulates small business. Isn’t that good for the economy?

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    eh, micro-brews have such little marketshare that you're really not stimulating the economy that much by purchasing them

    plus the fact micro-brews are more expensive than the macro-brews.

    If you wanna help the economy more, stock up on SABMiller products, InBev products, or MolsonCoors products. They’ll have more reach than loading up on Great Lakes, Flying Dog, etc….

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I try to

    but I also look at the big picture

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Actually, beer brewing has HUGE value added.

    More bang for your buck, so to say.

    This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.

    by andromache on Jun 21, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

    THIS

    "i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

    by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

    plus the world is going to hell in a hand basket

    i’m going to fuckin enjoy life now while it is still enjoyable. As we begin to run out of oil, food, water, etc, things are gonna fuckin change in the 10-20 years.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

    same theorists were spouting thermonuclear war in the 80'ss

    relax, smoke a cig. plan for the future.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

    smoking a cig is like burning money

    I do have an actual banking/credit question, if you don’t mind?

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i will

    so OBC, is having a credit card that i never use good or bad for my credit?

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I've heard both

    so, I’m interested in other answers

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

    my bank told me it is good

    i have two cards, one I use, and one that I don’t.

    But I am helping my parents look for a new car, and I was looking at Hyundai’s financing page, and they cautioned against unnecessary credit cards, even if they are not used.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    its not terribly good

    since its not being used positive payment history isnt being reported to the credit bureaus, which would increase your credit score.

    on the other hand its not near the credit limit (which decreases credit scores)

    on a third hand you have access to available unsecured credit. depending on the line of credit amount it can actually frighten some lenders off. probably not if im estimating your probable net credit exposure correctly based on age, employment history and income.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

    and......

    OCab should hit leadoff this evening!!!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

    car creditors are idiots

    they’ll sell your anything, whether you can afford it or not. they’re weasels!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    closing a mature credit card

    decreases your credit score a tad

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Chase gave me a credit card last May when I opened my checking account

    they gave me a better credit in March. Closing the original card (which hasn’t been used since I got the better card) would hurt my credit score, despite it being from the same bank?

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Closing a credit card

    decreases your available credit. If you carry a balance, that increases the percentage you’re using. This lowers your credit score.

    If the credit limit on it isn’t much, it shouldn’t matter much. But if it’s pretty high, it could affect your score quite a bit.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yep.

    Though eventually, if you don’t use it, it will be closed for you. If you actually want to keep it open you should use it every now and then and pay it off.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

    yeah

    but the benefit is microscopic

    not worth discussing much less worrying about…

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

    That's not necessarily true.

    A ten point bump to your credit score means very different things depending on what the score is. If you’re near a threshold for something? That bump means a lot.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

    for every generation

    there is a different global disaster scenario. the only difference is that ours is for real!

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

    that's what my folks said about Cuban Missile Crisis

    and my grandfather said about the Nazis.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

    The Nazis were pretty real.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i say 2 good beers then the cheap ones

    or go to opening day and get all you can drink bud select for under 10 dollars

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

    cept leave the naysayers at home

    they ruin the priceless atmosphere!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i am about the journey not the destination.

    and usually when i’m drinking to get drunk, i don’t fuck around with beer and I drink liquor!

    Plus most micro-brews have a higher alcohol content.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

    you're damn right they do

    but as obc pointed out, after about 3 you’re well on your way, and you can switch to the wallet friendly variety

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I have it on good authority that Nix hangs out with Barbie wannabes

    so who doesn’t wanna hang with the guy that brings the arm & eye candy?

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    FTFY

    plus Nix just looks like a badass an alien

    by the finest muffins on Jun 21, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    alien?

    no way.

    Nix looks an awful lot like Josh Hamilton, minus all the ink

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

    yes it was a tremendous mistake

    i’ve never seen a show improve as much in it’s 2nd season as true blood.

    the 3rd season has been very good through 2 episodes as well

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i now know why your skin is pale

    you should get outside more in the summertime

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

    ok

    youre the second person to say that, so i think im gonna have to drop it in my netflix queue.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i watched 5 episodes of eastbound & down yesterday

    i assumed i still had several to go, but i learned today that it was only a 6 episode season. Also, they are doing season 2 but they are changing the setting and characters. what’s the deal with that?

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i have that in my queue now too

    ‘course, they all have to wait until i finish the 3rd season of Arrested Development. i finally got around to watching it, and it’s as good as advertised.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    agree'd on arrested development

    i also held off for a while before i would break down and watch it.

    finally got the dvd’s from the library and as everyone says it is incredible.

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

    it streams instant on Netflix

    and with my Wii i can watch it on my tv. i still cant get my head around that kind of technological magic.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i haven't streamed netflix to my wii

    but i have on my ps3, and i’ve been very impressed with the video quality

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    we were looking at OnDemand this weekend

    to find a movie to shut my kid up…er, I mean…for the whole family to watch. Got nothing.

    Pulled up Amazon and within 5 minutes we were watching “Space Buddies” in peace. It must have sucked when old people were younger.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    nah

    we actually went outdoors and did stuff back them.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

    What is the forgotten word?

    a “to”
    b “with”
    c there wasn’t one. he met they did things to their backs

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

    we did that once

    NOT. A. FAN. There’s, like, other people out there.

    Seriously though, I believe it was storming at this point in the day and we had already burnt through art time, game time, dinner time, and action figure time.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    that's the other contender

    i think the quality gap between seasons is slightly greater in true blood though

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

    What are the better and worse

    P&R seasons? I’ve only seen a couple of episodes.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

    season 1 was very meh

    season 2 it turned into the best of the nbc thursday night comedies

    season 3 it’s a mid-season replacement

    i don’t get it

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

    An alien in a football player's thick-necked body, maybe.

    But an alien nonetheless. Just look at his disturbingly dead eyes sometime.

    by the finest muffins on Jun 22, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Nix reminds me of Chris Valaika

    Similar build and coloring.

    I don’t think he looks like an alien, or like Josh Hamilton.

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    by BubbaFan on Jun 22, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I actually do kind of see the resemblance.

    But Josh Hamilton has so much more warmth in his face. Maybe Nix is more robot than alien, but there’s something cold and lifeless that makes him completely unattractive to me.

    by the finest muffins on Jun 22, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

    That one I don't see at all.

    Chris Valaika has smiling eyes and dimples! Nothing like scary Laynce.

    by the finest muffins on Jun 22, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Does he really think Cabrera's igniting the offense, though?

    If Scott Rolen (who actually does ignite the offense) gets regular days off, Orlando Cabrera should, too. Especially with a sprained ankle. I mean, really, this isn’t a newfangled idea, sitting a player who’s hurt.

    by the finest muffins on Jun 21, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

    the problem is

    that it was decided that once Cabrera moved to the lead-off spot, suddenly the offense was good. Nobody ever mentions the fact that it wasn’t Cabrera was the one being good, it was everyone behind him from the 2 thru 5th spot. They’ve taken the coincidence and called it the cause. So, now it doesn’t occur to them to think that the coincidence could actually be hurting the team.

    FWIW, Cabrera isn’t the only one bringing this offense down. Gomes isn’t hitting. Bruce, Stubbs, Raymoan aren’t hitting. Even BP has struggled over the last week. The only two guys hitting right now are Votto and Rolen.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i dont think anyone is hitting right now

    one run in three games proves it (i know im relying on a counting stat but i think it proves my point!)

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

    if we're only looking at 3 games

    then Joey is the only one hitting. He went .400/.500/.400 and hit at least 2 balls that would have been HRs in most other parks.

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    i missed all three games

    kinda fortunate timing. had no idea Joey performed that well. good on ya, Votto!

    have the A’s posted their lineup yet?

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

    like a breath of fresh air

    It’s that same decision to call correlation causation that will stop the Reds from moving Cabrera too.

    NYC has convinced me that that is a tragedy, because the team has the pieces to acquire Stephen Drew

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Stephen Drew won't come cheap

    and I’m not convinced he’s enough to make a difference for the rest of this season

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Neither was NYC, if I may speak for him

    it’s the relative cheap arbitration years for the production.

    Valuable things never come cheap, but the Reds have plenty of AAAA players and one Yonder Alonso to get it done

    by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

    aren't we kinda overvaluing the lead off hitter

    yeah it would be nice to not have an out machine there, but really Ocab, however poorly miscast, is not causing the Reds current offensive woahs.

    This team really doesn’t have a true lead off hitter, in a guy who gets on base, and is fast. So lets just move everybody up one, make Ocab the 8th hitter, and move on.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

    did it come pre-loaded with porn?

    and if so, why are you formatting it?

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    by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    it did not

    and because it was formatted to a mac, so my work computer can’t read it

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

    you are making this thread less fun, nerdface

    and where did Gray go?

    I had a couple beers in the DR that I can discuss!

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

    ftfy

    it was formatted to a mac, so my work normal computers can’t read it

    freakin’ macs….

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

    That gives me a wondeful business idea

    I’ll race you to the patent office.

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    by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

    my buddy has 8 total TB of HDs

    and he backed up all his stuff to some online storage, and reformatted all 8 TB. And then bitched about how long it was taking….

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I've had 2.5TB for about 2 years now.

    I don’t download as much as I did, so no need to upgrade yet.

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I got banned by Zoomtown for a week

    I got into a good movie torrent site btw, If anyone wants an invite just email me.

    WYSIWIG

    by Excalib8 on Jun 21, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Let's DL Cabrera, move Rolen to short

    and pick up the 3B the Jays DFA today. Some guy named Encarnacion.

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    by Thundering Turtle on Jun 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

    Rolen at short?

    That would be painful to watch.

    Let me write out a formal proof for you.

    by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Yeah,

    just trying to be silly while getting EE’s DFA into the mix.

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    by Thundering Turtle on Jun 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

    we went over this in the NBA thread

    which needs to be rec’d, fyi

    Armon Bassett is more cost effective than Evan Turner

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Cousins has some questions

    mental toughness, fatitude,

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    hmmm.

    sounds like Barkley. or Rasheed.

    Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

    by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

    I can

    Cousins is an unpolished thug

    Johnson can actually play

    by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

    demarcus cousins is the best player in this draft

    where were all of his attitude issues last season? i didn’t notice them. he didn’t get a bunch of technicals, didn’t get into many fights, and was the best big man in the country. he was also abused by other players as they were trying to get him to “lose it”.

    I think there are going to be several teams really regret passing on him.

    Reports are he dominated Favors in their head to head workouts

    by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Poor EdE

    if anybody ever needed a sports psychologist it is him.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

    how dumb is Cris Carter's son

    when’s the last time you heard anyone having academic problems at Ohio A&M?
    i’s plays futbol

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

    no doubt

    he was unimpressive on the field too. smell ya later.

    by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Lineup in:

    CincinnatiReds: Phillips 4, Janish 6, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Gomes 7, Stubbs 8, Heisey 9, Cairo DH, Hernandez 2, Leake RHP

    by chazzilla on Jun 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

    Janish is seriuosly batting 2nd?

    and Heisey is batting 7th?

    What
    The
    Fuck
    ?

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

    and fucking Cairo is dhing?

    where the fuck is Nix?

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

    and Gomes is a terrible fielder

    Dusty had a great opportunity to give Heisey some playing time, while upgrading the outfield defense.

    I try to keep a level head, but god he makes is so goddamn hard sometimes.

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    by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

    ok, Gray

    you’re boy is in the lineup….let’s see how great this kid is.

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Nah. In Dusty's scheme

    Janish is much more suited to be a leadoff guy.

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    by ZJiff30 on Jun 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

    fire dusty!

    (but at the same revamp the roster so there is actually more talented ballplayers to put on the field. it will complete the ruse and everyone will continue to blame Dusty for the streak of nonwinning seasons)

    "then skip it"....

    by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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