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The winning run was controversially disallowed by Koman Coulibaly. Reds lose, 1-0.

The man with all the answers. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)



Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Nobody?  Ok, we'll go with Ryan Rowland-Smith.  The proverbial dingo to our baby pitched six shutout innings and earned his first win of the season.  Sure he walked five and only struck out two, but the Reds could only manage three harmless hits off of him.  Honorable mentions go to Aaron Harang and Logan Ondrusek.

Key Plays

  • The Reds got two of their three hits in the second inning - singles from Scott Rolen and Jay Bruce.  But with runners on the corners and one out, Drew Stubbs popped out and Chris Heisey grounded out to second.
  • After a walk in the third inning, Brandon Phillips got picked off.  It's his seventh time caught stealing.
  • In the bottom of the fourth inning, the Mariners got their leadoff man on with an infield hit from Chone Figgins.  One out later, Jose Lopez hit a single that put runners on the corners with one out, just like the Reds had earlier.  Only Franklin Gutierrez was able to hit the ball into the outfield for a sacrifice fly.  Mariners get the only run of the game, 1-0.
  • The Reds had two runners on in the sixth with one out, and Johnny Gomes flew out and Jay Bruce struck out.  They had two runners on in the seventh, both in scoring position, with one out and Orlando Cabrera and Brandon Phillips both struck out.

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via www.fangraphs.com

Star-divide

Other Notes

  • The Mariners have an 8-1 record against the Reds, all time.  The Reds have never scored more than two runs in any of the losses.
  • The Reds have scored one run in their last 30.1 innings.  For comparison's sake, Arthur Rhodes has only allowed one run in his last 30.2 innings.  That's right, we are as good as every chump team facing the Colossus.
  • Orlando Cabrera is now batting .108 over his last ten games.
  • But the bullpen pitched its fourth scoreless game in a row!
  • The Reds have been shut out seven times all season, five times since May 30, and three times in their last six games.
  • This is the first time the Reds have been swept in a series since April 11-13 against Pittsburgh.

 


 

Final - 6.20.2010 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 RHE
Cincinnati Reds 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0
Seattle Mariners 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 X 1 3 0
WP: Ryan Rowland-Smith (1 - 6)
SV: David Aardsma (15)
LP: Aaron Harang (5 - 7)

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I'm glad I wasn't around much to watch this series. How depressing.

And I know the whole offense sucked, but for goodness sake, something needs to be done about shortstop. Lando has, by far, the worst OPS on the team, he’s hobbling around in the field, and he’s not having very good at bats.

I’m sure the offense will wake up and perform better (and at least we can be encouraged by Cueto, Harang, and the ’pen), but it looks to me like the Magical Mystery Tour of Lando Being an Adequate SS/Leadoff Hitter is over.

see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Would it be insane....

….if we put Votto at the leadoff spot? He gets on base A LOT and he is our best base runner.

It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein

by Travis Rehl on Jun 21, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel lıke Bruce ıs a better base runner

I’d hate to see Bruce lose power, though. I’m honestly at a loss about leadoff unless someone trıes to convınce me Heısey ıs the answer.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2010 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it is time to try Branden Phillips at lead off.

But then you’ve got a hole in the 2 slot because Dusty won’t give Lando any time off.

I’d like:
BP
Janish
Votto
Rolen
Buruce
Gomes
Stubbs
Hernia

Give Orlando a couple games off to recharge.

My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that lineup

Cabrera really needs to get out of the lineup and heal bvecause he is not helping us much right now and only hurting himself more

by Red_Poodle on Jun 21, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why bat Janish 2nd?

BP
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Gomes
Stubbs
CMM
Janish

I’d go with something like that

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd bat janish leadoff

mo at bats, mo better!

i can’t wait until he achieves veteran respect level!

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

that way the Reds can get max gain out of his wOBA and x/flip

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he missed his opportunity for an extension at the end of may

he should have pushed harder then, because there’s going to be no sentiment to keep him if things keep going the way they have been.

bring on larussa!

by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard it through the grapevine

that he asked and was more or less told to come back when he’s actually accomplished something. He wasn’t getting an extension in May, regardless of how hard he pushed.

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by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i kinda figured that to be the case

i’m glad you are able to confirm it as true. it makes me feel a lot better about reds upper management

by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was no reason to give Dusty a mid-season extension

It isn’t 2002 and Dusty isn’t a hot commodity anymore.

Cincinnati Reds-Rebuilding since 2001...

by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the bright side

Ondrusek has been kinda decent since he was sent down and called up again. Maybe he figured something out in Louisville?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe he did

it’s good to see teh bullpen improve, but I can’t feel good about much right now. I’ll get over it in the next couple of hours.

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looked pretty wild today

but he has been decent since being back up. once he finds his control he could be a very useful arm for us.

by sharks2 on Jun 20, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this series has made it apparent

that Cliff Lee is not the answer to our problems. I would hate to see Walt deal Alonzo for a rental player, much less a starting pitcher that we could not re-sign. Sure, we could potentially win the division, but there is no way this team, even with a true ace, could beat the tops of the AL (NY, TB, BOS). This team is set up to do some damage in the next few years, and if we are going to start moving high value prospects it needs to be for a SS of the future.

Watch it, ass blood.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

but he is cliff lee

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by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and just once i want to be the bell of the ball

that being said, when do we trade Arthur Rhodes?

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by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure they could

/2006 St. Loius Cardinals’d

by timb116 on Jun 21, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

But they do have their SS of the Future.

Corky Miller is making the switch, didn’t you know?

by hachigo! on Jun 22, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

that bothers me too

2 brilliant performances were wasted

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And LeCure pitched well for the most part

Up until the last inning, he kept the team in the game.

by ThePensive on Jun 20, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did

so there are things to be happy abotu pitchign wise. I don’t think teh offense can suffer kike this much more. I hope not anyway.

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man that was a bad typo

I wish I could say I was drinking, but I wasn’t depsite teh way this game made me feel).

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you really let me down.

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by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry man

I should have been hitting the sauce but I just went for some Starbucks instead

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know

starbucks can make you jittery, and not pay attention to what you write. With alcohol my typing slowly gets better, until it falls off a cliff and is much much worse.

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by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that is my problem

maybe I should add some Bailey’s to the Starbucks and it will even out

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

But sometimes he is a tender lover

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by justin007000 on Jun 20, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it is but Homer is cute

and I love his soccer hating ways—but I wouldn’t dare encroach on andromache’s project to rehabilitate him ;)

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whats hıs prognosıs?

I mıss the fella, I want hım back soon.

And has Dıckerson started rehab yet?

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is from Cincinnati!

speaking of that, I saw him doing a Skyline ad. Shoudln’t he be doing Boston market ads?

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw him in a Nantucket Nectar's ad on the t.

This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.

by andromache on Jun 20, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Youkilis on an episode of Man vs. Food.

He was pretty funny heckling Adam Richman for being from New York.

by RedsMasochist on Jun 21, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was he standing in for Prince Fielder?

My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a great episode @ Eagle's Deli

apparently Youk is a huge fan of the show, found out Adam Richman was going to Eagle’s to do the challenge, and showed up to heckle and watch

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

They changed the URL to avoid offense, but I’m not sure replacing the i with a 1 is that much of an improvement.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

we suck again. Awesome!

now we can get back to talking about other pointless shit

chairman of the committee

by boobsinho on Jun 20, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Like World Cup Soccer!!!

It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein

by Travis Rehl on Jun 21, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Things will be alright

Looooong season. We are seeing some of our boys come to earth but shortly Bruce and others will be leaving earth.

by kennythered on Jun 21, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

no!

Janish has called the mother ship!

by Red_Poodle on Jun 21, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

in all seriousness

I see your point, and I think your right. A couple of guys are due to break out and Bruce is definitely on the list.

by Red_Poodle on Jun 21, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, he is.

My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.

by Madville on Jun 21, 2010 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He guys!

Been disconnected for a bit. Spent three days on Assateague in a tent.

What’d I miss?
Are the Reds winning?
Did they stop that pesky leak in the gulf?
Did we get out of the wars yet?
Do these pants make my butt look fat?

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Jun 21, 2010 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

They're right next to each other.


Both have wild horses. Chincoteague got the children’s novel, though.

by the finest muffins on Jun 21, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, there would have been a lot of gratuitous use of the word "ass" otherwise.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 21, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...

If we’re shorting the names like that, I’ll take “ass” to the alternative.

by the finest muffins on Jun 21, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Relatedly, I have learned

that Australians apparently think it makes the most sense to shorten assistant professor to “ass pro,” and somehow manage to do so with a straight face.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Jun 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah summer...

i don’t know about you guys but my june has been absolutely incredible so far and july looks to be just as good. i’m so busy that i could care less about this team right now. i still love ‘em enough to check the box score, stats, and standings every night. but i haven’t watched a full game in over two weeks. you know what could reel me back in? a trade. sounds like a tall order though.

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 21, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

when you getting married?

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is such a bridezilla.

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by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

sadly

you are not good at preventing infections

stay off the women and the ATVs in the Smokies, pepe.

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

august 2011

"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki

by GrooveLeg on Jun 21, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think he's available during that time frame

make him bring the TN Yuengling.

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter for the runner, I don't think

It’s just a matter of whether the catcher or the pitcher gets credit.

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the way I'm reading it too

If you’re tagged as you dive back, it doesn’t count as a CS. Weird.

"i may be an idiot but i’m correct." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Jun 21, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

BP got a POCS on that play, which goes as a caught stealing

it may be because when the throw went to 1st, he was going to second, not back to the base.

FWIW, BP has 4 straight caught stealings, 3 POCS, and 1 straight PO. That’s quite a few outs for somebody with 10 SB. When’s he gonna bust out the 40/40?

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by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he goes 40/40

after he increases his x/flip to 7.5

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

for a season? yes

too bad defensive metrics aren’t factored into x/flip.

we’re working on tweaking ~FW&P (which will be added to x/flip) in order to have a measurable, tangible rating that includes offense and defense.

"then skip it"....

by obc2 on Jun 21, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds complicated

i can’t wait to see the graphs to back your numbers up!

by 'tHan on Jun 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense

if he was advancing to the next base on the throw over, then it should count towards CS. I guess it wouldn’t matter if he got into a rundown from that point.

BP is the new Ryan Freel, IMO. Dumb baserunner. At least Freel was fast. BP has to be the slowest “fast” guy I’ve ever seen.

I’m more worried about BP trying for 40 HR. He can create all the outs on the basepaths that he wants (b/c he will). Him trying for 40 HR scares me, b/c he’ll ground into even more DPs (is that possible?) and he’ll pop out a lot more.

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been decidedly less homer happy this year

I actually sorta like his game at the plate right now. He’s not swinging out of his shoes, his walk-rate is up slightly, and he appears well on his way to the most doubles of his career. I think he’s a better hitter when he plays like that.

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by Slyde on Jun 21, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

When his SLG is largely based on his 2B production, he’s a more complete hitter

And him increasing his walk-rate will continue to be key

by Highlifeman21 on Jun 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

40 sb/40 cs?

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by justin007000 on Jun 21, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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