The only thing that can bring joy to Reds fans is a picture of Shaq and a panda. Reds lose, 14-4.
by Brendanukkah on May 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Starlin Castro. The 20 year old shortstop who was just called up for today's game played very well and had 6 RBI, the most by any player in his debut in MLB history.
Chicago Curse Goat of the Game
The rain. The torrential storm that was forecast and we all felt in our bones never materialized, and so we were able to get this game in. Thanks so bloody much, pleasant weather!
Key Plays
- Mike Fontenot hit a grand slam. Jesus Christ!
Win Expectancy
via pw0nd.com
Other Notes
- According to Thom, Wisconsin is just a great, great state.
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I'm mainly angry because my favorite baseball team sucks
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
by jch24 on May 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's like if you knew it would make you mad if someone were to punch your mother
It won’t make you less mad when you see it happening.
by Brendanukkah on May 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a good way to summarize it
even though I expect to get angry, I can’t stop myself most of the time—this team just gets me emotinally involved.
And your point is?
A team can be infuriating regardless of their record. This team is very unlikely to finish the seaosn either near .500 or in second place with the way they have been playing this season.
Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that.
It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.
by RedsMasochist on May 8, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
No team will always make us happy
but I do agree that despite our glossy thoughts back in March, the reality was that this team was mediocre at best and annoyingly average all the time. We can root for individual success and probably get some of that.
We will get one guy on the All Star team.
Fourth place, probably, or third at best … which may be the best argument for canning Baker … not much improvement or even a trend in that direction. I just always say we need to be careful what we wish for. Could it be worse?
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
The point is pretty obvious. They're not that bad and they are in position to make a run at the Cardinals
quit acting like an Orioles fan, in other words
You really think that a .500 record is sustainable with their current level of play?
If so, I think you are delusional. I think it’s more likely you’re just doing what you always seem to do and are just looking to start arguments.
And how exactly am I acting like an Orioles fan? By pointing out that a .500 record doesn’t mean you can’t be angry at your team’s poor play? Or that I’m saying that they most likely aren’t going to keep winning at this rate? I would say quit acting like a douchebag, but we all know I’d never say something like that no matter how hard I’m thinking it.
Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that.
It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.
by RedsMasochist on May 8, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
See below. This team is in second place and performing just like most projections indicated
and that’s with under-performance from a number of would be contributors
Dude... Joey Votto is the only guy on the team that is near a .300 average...
Scott Rolen is the only other guy on this team that has a chance at hitting anywhere near .300.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Crolfer, you're giving me BA as an important stat? Surprised am I
Were you of the opinion this team would be an offensive juggernaut? This team was gonna have trouble unless Jay became the Jay he is supposed to be (and I think he’s getting there). The Reds were supposed to win with pitching and defense. The pitching has been inconsistent, but when Harang returns to league average and they find a starter to do Homer’s job (whether that’s Homer or someone else), then I remain optimistic that the team can trade it’s average and one good prospect for established talent and make a run the Wild Card.
Did people believe this was a 90 win team? No one I saw thought that, so it seems to be they are right where we thought they would be .500 with maturing young talent.
At any rate, I didn’t mean to interrupt the general air of doom with optimism. Besides, why second place team is taking the field in a couple of hours
do you think they'll end up .500?
and we’ll just have to suffer through a lot of ups and downs? I can’t really figure out exactly what the team needs. It is so inconsistent. For a week, the starting pitching will be great and the offense will be weak or the bullpen will be weak.
I think they be right at .500
They need one more pitcher and one more hitter to be a winning club. So, they’ll struggle a bit until Chapman comes up and they acquire another bat, ‘cause they sure aren’t developing an impact bat (at least not at a position that is not being played by Joey Votto)
Homer, and I know this won’t won’t go over well, is destined to be a closer (like numerous inconsistent starters before him became great closers).
It took me five years to get a divorce from someone I never wanted to be married to
I’m a slow learner.
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
Enough already.
I’m not angry, just amazed at Dusty Baker.
And of course Jim Pedsie Day, and Mr Redtool, and RosieRut and Clapper and Tubbyslowcabwreck, and well enough alarming.
Nite all
The 2010 Reds – "It could have been a lot worse"
by RedsMasochist on May 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
The umpire has calling strikes that were waaaay out of the strikezone
It was riling up our boys, notably Joey and Jay. Dusty never got out there and did their arguing for them.
by Brendanukkah on May 7, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw Jay get riled up
too bad Votto didn’t have words with the ump, but it was ladies night.
In all seriousness, I’m glad neitehr got tossed—Votto still had a nice night offensively
Joey stood at home plate for quite awhile after that strike three call- he definitely seemed like he was thinking about it.
Plenty of time for Dusty to hustle himself out there and make sure his best hitter doesn’t get thrown out of the game.
This team wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for all the losing.
When Votto eventually snaps, I want to be there
He’ll lose his everloving mind, and there’s nothing like an angry canuck.
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
he has been ejected before
i can’t remember if it was spectacular.
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
by justin007000 on May 7, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at the home game he got thrown out of last year, and sitting not too far from the action.
Does this jog your memory at all? Honestly, it wasn’t much fun in person. Kind of uncomfortable to watch one human being scream expletives at another. Not to mention I was hoping to see my favorite player play a full game. The Reds won, though, so it ended well.
by the finest muffins on May 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That was when the 3rd base ump called Votto out, I think?
by Im_a_fun_haver on May 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You were one of a select few, it appears
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
despite the quotable invectives he threw at teh ump
it was an unpleasant event. I hope he can avoid stuff like that in the future (it’s obvious he is very much annoyed by bad third strike calls), but Rolen seems to have a track record of ump fights, so maybe I should be more worried about him (don’t know much about Rolen in that regard, just know that when I do a GIS of Rolen, pics like this come up
I was at the game in new york last hear when he got tossed.
It was a Sunday day game and Harang was on the mound, so it’s not like we would have won anyway, but it was depressing to see the reds’ best player get tossed and have a bunch of doofy mets fans cheer it. Dusty damn near got tossed along with him.
Also, Bruce broke his wrist that day!
There is nothing more satisfying than beating the Cardinals
and nothing more frustrating than losing to the Cubs.
Stubbs needs to go to AAA and straighten himself out like EdE did in 2007. EdE came back and hit the ball after 2 weeks of Louisville. I think Stubbs is going to be a fine ball player, but he looks lost when he is at the plate.
Also demote Fisher, he fucking sucks. Bring up LeCure and let him have the 11th man in the bullpen.
Plus that fucking home plate umpire was horseshit, Ocab should have gotten himself ejected, he already showed up the home plate umpire in his final at bat, he should have gone all the way.
Also why the fuck did that piece of shit Ray-Moan only make it to first on that ball hit to Byrd?
Also why was Homer allowed to pitch the 4th, much less the 5th?
Dusty shoulda yanked him when he got in trouble in the 3rd, it was obvious he didn’t have it today,
That is all.
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
Why was Homer allowed to pitch the 5th? Because Dusty doesn't have a set. All starters go five innings unless they give up 10+ runs.
I know it sounds cliche, but what was the last Reds team with a valid chance at the playoffs? 1999. They had a strong leadership chip in Vaughn. There wasn’t a player on that team who wanted to risk incurring Vaughn’s wrath by not caring/playing like it mattered in August when you’re 5 games back. It’s not a coincidence in my opinion. Playoff teams have one of two things: either a shitload of talent (see: NYY, BOS, PHI, LAD) or a definable leader (MIN, STL, LAA). We’re not signing a $20 million/year player. We need to go the other way.
Do you think BP would get away with the shit he does (I’ve soured if you can’t tell), or the pitchers would get away with nibbling around the next hitter after a HR if we had a true leader? This team, along with most from the last decade, has NO NUTS.
It’s okay to get pissed off and do something outrageous to express your frustration from time to time. It’s a release, and shows you actually give a shit. If it’s not going to come from a player (and it’s obviously not), it needs to come from Dusty. Even if it’s obligatory, lay down the fucking law once in a while. I don’t mean to sound cincinnati.comish, but I am getting more and more annoyed with this franchise’s lack of competitive spirit.
NUT UP OR SHUT UP, Reds. Show me you care as much as I do.
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
Amen
on this team having no testicular fortitude. They haven’t shown that since Trader Jack/Greg Vaughn left.
Watch it, ass blood.
There's a difference between having fight as a team and having a demonstrable leader in the clubhouse
I haven’t seen the latter since Greg Vaughn left town.
by Brendanukkah on May 8, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I really wish Dusty would utilize Owings in a more effective manner in games like today's
Like it was obvious in the 3rd that Bailey wasn’t effective, if I remember correctly it was a hard hit ground ball right at a middle infielder that bailed Bailey out of the 3rd, and there were a lot of hard hit balls in the 4th. If Dusty woulda been more proactive the 5th inning may not have happened. Owings should have started the 4th.
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
by justin007000 on May 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What was Sparky's nickname?
I’m just sayin’.
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
That was one of the things that struck me most when reading The Machine
Sparky would yank you whenever he damn well felt like it, whenever you screwed up just a little. And he didn’t care if you hated him for it. If you were to ask any member of the Big Red Machine pitching staff if Sparky was a player’s manager, they’d just laugh at you.
I’m sure Dusty is a wonderful human being and a good clubhouse presence. But it’s Sparky that has the rings.
by Brendanukkah on May 8, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Sparky has the rings
But there isn’t one position player on the 2010 Reds who would have started for the BRM.
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on May 8, 2010 7:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course not! Some of them weren't even born yet!
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Here
One of the reasons that Macha is a bad manager is he’s not chummy enough with the players.
I’m still flabbergasted that the most popular radio show team that covers them both agreed that Dusty was the superior manager – they both would like him to take over. They each gave a reason. I forget one reason but the other was that Dusty had taken two different teams to the WS.
/SouthMilwaukeeintellect’d
A bit on this, just for the halibut
The BRM, as we all know, is a different era but the main difference is the club’s ability to modify its roster more easily than today. Bad performance could be met with a simple … trade or demotion. Less likely today, the Reds and teams like them are hamstrung with a shortage of available big-league talent that can be had for the price of a transaction.
Still, Sparky had a unique group of players and unique leadership that transcended almost all teams of the modern era. The pitching on that team was much better than it was given credit for being but they had the backseat luxury of knowing they could score 5-6 runs every night out.
The job was easy. Throw some outs. If you can’t do that, we’ll put someone in who can.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
Sparky was his nickname
Somebody called him George early on.
Then somebody called him Captain Hook, which was really not his nickname.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
You're nuts, Justin. This is the beginning of like 10 games in a row. When the starter gets shelled, he gets shelled
a good manager will try to keep him out there as long he can to save the bullpen.
So Dusty just knows that Harang and Leake will get shelled this weekend?
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
Leake will not get shelled
Because he’s my new man-crush. Joey Votto is soooooo last year.
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
Like I said earlier, a little dust-up would do this team some good.
I don’t advocate violence and there would be fines and suspensions, but it would be better if the tension boiled over towards another team instead of in the clubhouse.
by Im_a_fun_haver on May 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Dusty was at best inanimate.
At worst very very very worried.
I too, earlier, recommended that Stbbs go to AAA and get his shit together…he is not hitting as well as:
Jannish, Nix, or Hannigan…all three which could be in LF (not at the same time)
I would put Jannish LF and Bruce in CF…at least you’d get a pro-AB.
The 2010 Reds – "It could have been a lot worse"
by RedsMasochist on May 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
Get your asses back in the kitchen where you belong, says this guy
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
I love to cook and would gladly spend more time in the kitchen.
It’s definitely possible I got offered this new job because I mentioned in my interview that I make the finest brownies in all the land.
You’re still a jackass, though, just to be clear. And I’m amending my lesson for the Reds to this: Every night is ladies night. Quit being a condescending backasswards organization and win some damn ballgames.
by the finest muffins on May 8, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
did you actually say
“I Make the finest brownies in all the land”?
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
by justin007000 on May 8, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd hire someone who said that in a second.
by chazzilla on May 8, 2010 1:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty much.
I was a little more humble than that, though. I believe I said, “I have a recipe that I call ‘the finest brownies in all the land.’”
by the finest muffins on May 8, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
this almost as controversial as religion or politics
Fudgy or cakey? Frosted or not? Nuts or no nuts?
I have to make brownies for an occasion later this month. I’m kinda leaning toward blonde brownies, just because I haven’t made them in awhile.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Blondies are indeed the new hotness
Good choice.
by Brendanukkah on May 8, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
MMMMMM Brownies
The 2010 Reds – "It could have been a lot worse"
by RedsMasochist on May 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
Combination of fudgy & cakey, no frosting, no nuts
Frosting implies cupcake or muffin, and nuts on a brownie is risky due to people and allergies
by Highlifeman21 on May 11, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
in addition to the finest muffins in the land I guess!
I enjoy cooking myself. If I have time, I like to make muffins or scones (usually my fave thing to have around). I remember during a particularly bad Cubs game last year I just made cranberry scones and improved my enjoyment of the game lol.
And about your italics comment, you said it! Start winning some games consistently guys!
Didn't something else important
happen in baseball that year?
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on May 8, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I was born in 1991.
Ugh, I’m going to feel like a total failure whenever someone from 91 hits the majors.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
There is one advantage to the Reds sucking
cheap tickets on ebay!
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
that was a nice play
I was just about to post a clip of that (saw it on Reds.com) because I think he got a foul ball away form a Cubs fan. #7 is pretty good.
Here is the clip It was a graceful catch.
What pissed me off about that play was that our fans didn't get out of his way
If that was the visiting 1B, elbow him in the face when he comes near the stands
That was Votto, stay the Hell out of his way and let him catch the ball with no trouble
by Highlifeman21 on May 11, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Time to get Homer out of here
Time to send Homer back to Louisville because he has not shown anything so far this year and remains the only starting pitcher that has not won a game. I think the best thing is to trade him away for a change in scenery because going back and forth for the past 3 to 4 years, Homer is just rotting away. OK there was a bit of flash late last season but as a home bred, he has run out of excuses. It will be good for Homer and for the Reds to part. Otherwise, he will not grow up and the Reds fans will continue to suffer.
Maybe...more like time to hire a Dave Duncan level pitching coach
A Chris Chambless level hitting coach
and how badly does this team need a manager?
Maybe Ken Griffy Sr. or Gary Maddox Sr.
Someone with some balls
The 2010 Reds – "It could have been a lot worse"
by RedsMasochist on May 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
Hire Jose Oquendo
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on May 8, 2010 7:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Homer is out of options.
So sending him to Louisville is not happening. As for trading him, it would be selling low, they would receive almost nothing. Before even thinking about those options it would be better to let him spend a little time in the pen and see if he can get himself straightened out. It would be nice to get him back to throwing his fastball a majority of the time, rather than trying to fool batters with his mediocre off-speed stuff and hanging pitches that get crushed.
Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that.
It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.
by RedsMasochist on May 8, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
that sounds like a good idea
It just seems like Homer never quite makes it. Maybe by the end of this year he’ll do well again, but I’m not convinced he’ll ever realize his full potential (maybe he was overhyped). I like him, but he is very inconcsistent.
I guarantee that as soon as he's out of Cincinnati he'll start pitching well.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Excellent!
His next start should be in Pittsburgh!
by the finest muffins on May 8, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Homer had a bad Friday
I think it’s too early to throw the Bailey out with the bathwater.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
When you are 6 starts (or is it 7?) into the season
And your ERA is still over 7.00 and seems to somehow get worse every time out, that’s more than just a bad Friday.
by wishfuldrifter on May 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, I buy some of this
Bailey walks too many, maybe isn’t completely in command.
That, I think, is the sort of pitcher teams like the Reds (aka non-contenders) often have as important to their rotations.
I also think that I can recall a dozen other really good lifetime pitchers who spent a few early seasons learning to pitch.
Go ahead, trade Bailey (and wonder someday why you let him get away.)
The problem with fans of mediocre teams is they expect all-star talent from their players. There’s a reason we’re wishing we were .500.
Part of that is a lack of patience or attention to detail. Part of it is finding smart coaches.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
or you look at this year as a lost season
and go with Bailey through his ups and downs, and hope he learns how to be a major league pitcher while in the process.
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
I might say it's a lost first quarter of the season
I am in that drum-thumping, soul-savin’ group who believes that this team isn’t dead in the water, just not playing good baseball. There are some fixes, and rearranging the roster isn’t the first thing we need to try.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
So... I posted this once already...
But this looks like a much more appropriate place to leave this here… panda.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
The business of nutting up
Something to be said for that in the respect that there must be somebody who can demand that this team play better baseball more frequently. I can’t say that the manager going postal every so often is the solution but it’s obvious that the paycheck isn’t helping produce much fire.
Maybe it’s the crappy attendance, or the quality of the opposition.
In any event, the theory of how bad the offense has been comes down to the simple theory of teaching a man to fish instead of sending him to Red Lobster for dinner. We need a hitting instructor who can work with Stubbs, first off. This guy IS the leadoff man we wanted after he learns to hit.
Other offensive woes are fixable. Dusty and his staff don’t get that done. I hear too many complaints about runners missing the sign at third base to think that Berry isn’t partially responsible for their weak baserunning at second base.
I can’t discern a notable trend with the pitching other than, some games the bear gets you … other days the manager should have pulled the starter sooner or left the reliever in longer. I am not ready, however, to fix the pitching other than send Fisher back to Red Lobster and bring up The Cure.
Otherwise, this team needs to learn how to win in GABP more often. Those warning-track shots are nice crowd pleasers, provided you have a crowd.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
I don't think Stubbs is the leadoff man the Reds want
He’s not the leadoff hitter type, but the Reds have been trying for years to turn him into one, because they know they need one.
I think they’d be better off just letting him be the player he is.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Let us get a real hitting instructor
… then after we do that and Stubbs can’t hit leadoff, admit we’ve failed.
That was my point. The wrong people are coaching this team.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
And we draft the wrong players, and we have the wrong players in our organization
Pretty sure some players succeed in spite of the Reds
by Highlifeman21 on May 11, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
since around 2007
A lot of people were asking, “What happened to the light tower power”?
The Reds told him to work on contact and OBP so he could be a leadoff hitter, that’s what happened to it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I still want to see a different hitting coach
before I cast Stubbs onto the Corey Patterson pile.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
Stubbs is in no danger of turning into C-Pat
He has a lot more power and a lot more patience.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
So is it that you just like disagreeing with me?
Or if on the outside chance that I would suggest that Stubbs was a good ballplayer, you’d tell me I was wrong. If I said he wasn’t, then you would disagree. Either Stubbs is a ballplayer, Bubbafan, or he is not. Which side of the discussion are you on? Whichever that is, there is a 100 percent chance that, according to you, I am wrong about it.
This would include transportation, global water, politics, the nature of fruit and perhaps the general overall perception that soil is connected to farming.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
by johnu1 on May 8, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
Though I admit that half the time, I don’t understand what you’re saying.
I would never tell you that you were wrong if you said Stubbs was a good player. I think he’s a good player, and may be a great one. Comparing him to Corey Patterson is just beyond the pale, IMO.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Can't say I did that.
I said I believed he was everything but that.
We need a hitting instructor who can work with Stubbs, first off. This guy IS the leadoff man we wanted after he learns to hit.
I still want to see a different hitting coach before I cast Stubbs onto the Corey Patterson pile.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
sorry
But to me, that sounds like you’re comparing Stubbs to C-Pat.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I just want to make clear
my point is that I HOPE the guy has the potential to turn some pretty good tools into decent everyday performance.
I would like to try a different hitting coach to see if that can be done. I would rather work with a guy we have than gamble again on still another draft choice who may very well end up no better.
Stubbs plays great outfield and has terrific speed. Yeah, I get it … he can’t get on base enough. Maybe he never will but without trying a new approach to his coaching, we will end up doing the old “definition of insanity” … and still … what our fourth center fielder in as many years?
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
So why miscast Stubbs?
If he wasn’t a leadoff hitter previously, why have him work on different areas to try and change who he is?
Let him be a 6th or 7th spot hitter, and use that LTP
by Highlifeman21 on May 11, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
OK then
1. One game under.500 and in 2nd place
2.No team will make us happy all of the time
3.jch24 is a slow learner
4.Votto is primed to go postal
5. Do Not call sparky George
6.Homer is out of oprtions
7.
BubbaFan and Finest Muffins in a bake off.
8. Let Stubbs become the player that he is
9. Reds need a new hitting coach
10. Dusty sucks.
OK then…it doesn’t sound too bad to old Mads…an improvement over last year and the Dorkbob McDufas vs T-Virus threads.
The 2010 Reds – "It could have been a lot worse"
by RedsMasochist on May 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
on a related note
Alex Gonzalez hit a 3 run HR in the 12th (his 9th of the year…jesus) to win it for the Jays.
Jorge Cantu hit a game tying HR in the 7th, while Cody Ross was 2-3 w/ a double for the Marlins.
Griffey the younger broke up Jered Weaver’s no-no in the 7th.
Darnell McLovin had another hit last night and is OPSing over .800,
and I’m beginning to hate baseball again already all over again already.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on May 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
they grow up so fast
"Laynce, hit a homer here, I will never, ever say another bad thing about you." - Ash
There is always the bright side.
Dingleberry McSkidmark is with the Red Sox now, who are paying over twice times as much as the Reds for their .500 ballclub. I guess what I’m saying is, the Reds might be mediocre, but at least they’re not expensive and mediocre.
Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that.
It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.
by RedsMasochist on May 8, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
thus proving
Alex Gonzalez hit a 3 run HR in the 12th (his 9th of the year…jesus) to win it for the Jays.
damned American League pitching truly does suck.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
by johnu1 on May 8, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I in no way wish Alex Gonzalez was back on our team
But for his kid’s sake, I’m glad he’s doing well and I hope he continues to get contracts.
sending stubbs to AAA...not gonna change his life IMO.
he’s 25 years old and he has well over 500 PAs at the AAA level. even with a small ML sample size you can tell he’s going to K over 25% of the time and have a BABIP under .300.
here’s what i don’t get. with that speed, don’t you think he’d try to get a few bunts down? where’s NoHo when you need him?
stubbs is shaping up to be a 4th OF which isn’t necessarily bad unless you consider him being a first rd pick.
"Laynce, hit a homer here, I will never, ever say another bad thing about you." - Ash
I guess I remain in the distinct minority
I like what Stubbs can do and I think he’s a smart moment away from being that player.
He isn’t George Foster, who had to learn, or Vada Pinson, who had to prove to everyone he was not the black Joe DiMaggio.
But Stubbs has enough tools to make this team better. I will stay with that belief until I get some evidence that everything has been tried to make that happen. So far, it’s been Jerk Brookoby, whose ability to teach people to hit is somewhere less than .500.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
no, i think you're still in that optimistic majority.
i feel like i’m the minority because i am already trying to peg him as something he may not be.
i know i shouldn’t be jumping the gun on stubbs but the only thing i see him do well is run. if he can’t hit he’s pretty much just a wide receiver in a baseball uniform. he’s not showing any power, not hitting a ton of line drives… he’s walking more lately which is good, but the strikeouts are getting out of hand.
one thing we can all agree on is that he is not our leadoff hitter right now. he can help the team so i want him on the field everyday, just batting in the 8 spot.
"Laynce, hit a homer here, I will never, ever say another bad thing about you." - Ash
Agreeing on the leadoff role, for the moment
I suppose the sabre-tooths can correlate between OBP for a leadoff guy and W-L for the team, so I assume that something resembling 40 percent OBP = something above .500 for the team.
In any event, we have no really good options and trying BP up there isn’t going to work either. So branding Stubbs as a potential failure could translate that the entire organization has scoured the globe and found nobody who can lead off for the Redlegs.
What a sorry state of affairs.
So given what we have, let’s see if we can turn these square peg-round hole mistakes into something that resembles good sense. I retain my argument that we can’t blame the players until we’ve taken a look at the coaches.
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
Well we can all agree on one thing - Jerk Brookboy sucks as a hitting instructor.
The 2010 Reds – "It could have been a lot worse"
by RedsMasochist on May 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT
did you see the tribute to Ernie Harwell?
Buck and McCarver actually shut up. It was great. MLB.TV should start selling “no announcers” feeds. I bet a lot of people would pay for them.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'd buy that
especially if I had to choose among
McCarver
Hawk Harrelson
Jeff Brantley
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
It is a shame Harrelson is teamed up with Steve Stone
I actually like Steve Stone.
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
Reds Prospectus
My mom always said “It’s time to fish or cut bait”. That holds so true with Arroyo, Harang and Bailey. All can pitch but have not and it’s time to put up or shut up and not let the door hit you on the way out of town! Arroyo and Harang are getting some $20 million this year between them and you cannot tell me the team could not have gotten better for that kind of money! They had Jorge Cantu 3-4 years ago and never looked at him after Tampa dumped him. Yet, they want to sign an aging never was in Cairo? If I could I would trade Arroyo and Harang for whatever you could get and maybe sign Washburn while bringing up Chapman, they could not do worse and would be far cheaper to suffer through. Jermaine Dye says he is able to play yet no one looks at him while he has a history of good power hitting. He’s younger than Sheffield was last year when he was demanding a contract. What we need most is a good hitting and pitching coach. Is there a Dave Duncan clone out there anywhere?
Why on earth would you bring up Chapman now?
he struggles to complete 5 innings in AAA, you would want that in Cincinnati? You realize that if you bring up Chapman he will likely have the same issues as Bailey? Throws real hard, lacks command and needs to improve his secondary pitches… Bailey is just 24 and has shown flashes, young pitchers get knocked around for a while, give him more than a month.
Harang and Arroyo’s value are low right now, the Reds would be better served to let them have the chance to improve and flip them at the deadline to a competitive team that is desperate for an extra starting pitcher.
I hate Dusty Baker so goddamn much.
This is what I call VFW barstool logic
No offense to VFW members, but it’s about the guys who sit around the bar and opine about baseball without having any data to support it. Generally it goes like this:
“Trade ‘em all and bring up the guys from the minors. They can’t do no worse.”
“Yeah, we should trade Harang and Arroyo and get Penny from Brooklyn.”
“Ah, they ain’t in Brooklyn.”
“Same fuckin’ difference.”
“No sayin’ ‘fuck’ here on account of there’s ladies present.”
“Pardon my French.”
lefties tend to have looping swings for some reason, no idea why -- jch
by johnu1 on May 8, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He went, what? 6.2 innings?
Chapman couldn’t do that. I think people just kind of ignore Harang’s good outings, don’t they?
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