Reds use memorial day to honor the memories of Schottzie and Schottzie 2 by taking a big dump on the field. Cardinals win, 12-4.
by Brendanukkah on May 31, 2010 9:54 PM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Jaime Garcia. I hate to do it, but he pitched six strong innings, only allowing two earned runs and striking out six. He also went 2-2 at the plate with a walk and scored two runs. Honorable mentions go to Colby Rasmus (ugh), Felipe Lopez, and Ryan Ludwick.
Key Plays
- The Reds got off to a very promising start. With two outs in the first inning, Brandon Phillips singled and went to third on Scott Rolen's single. Rolen went to second on the throw, and both of them scored on Jonny Gomes's single. Reds lead, 2-0.
- The Cardinals pulled a run back in the second inning when Colby Rasmus doubled, went to third on Yadier Molina's grounder, and scored on Skip Schumaker's sacrifice fly. Reds lead, 2-1.
- After the third inning, the game was delayed by rain for an hour. Both starters came back, but it seemed like an especially bad idea for one of them. At first blush, it might have seemed like that was Jaime Garcia. Drew Stubbs reached on an error in the fourth inning and went from first to third on Bronson Arroyo's single. Orlando Cabrera singled and Stubbs scored, but then Miguel Cairo grounded into an inning ending double play. Reds lead, 3-1.
- But no, Bronson was not sharp on the mound. He'd been allowing baserunners even before the rain delay, but now they began to score. A lot. With two outs in the fourth, he walked Jaime Garcia, and Felipe Lopez singled, sending Garcia to third. Ryan Ludwick then singled and ended up on second on the throw with Garcia scoring and Lopez on third. Arroyo wisely walked Albert Pujols, but Matt Holliday hit a two run double. Cardinals lead, 4-3.
- In the fifth inning, Arroyo walked Rasmus, who went to second on Molina's grounder and home on Schumaker's single. Schumaker showed that the Cardinals were as adept as the Reds at taking the extra base by going from first to third on Garcia's single. They both scored when Felipe Lopez doubled. Finally, Dusty Baker relieved Arroyo with Carlos Fisher, who walked Ryan Ludwick but got Pujols to hit into a double play. Cardinals lead, 7-3.
- Fisher didn't last long though. He got one out in the sixth, then gave up a double to David Freese and a run scoring single to Colby Rasmus. Fisher got wild, uncorking a wild pitch and back to back walks to Molina and Schumaker. With the bases loaded, Mike Lincoln entered the game. Pinch hitter Jon Jay hit a ground rule double to bring in Rasmus and Molina, and Felipe Lopez walked to once again load the bases. Ryan Ludwick hit a sacrifice fly, and Albert Pujols's single brought Jay around to score. Cardinals lead 12-3.
- Cincinnati got a consolation run back in the eighth when Drew Stubbs tripled and scored on Ramon Hernandez's grounder. Cardinals win, 12-4.
Other Notes
- Arroyo's loss was the first by a starter in ten decisions, the longest winning streak for a Reds staff since 1985.
- Even though they lost today, the Reds won 18 games in May, the most in a month since 2004.
- Joey Votto has missed six games, but took batting practice today. Miguel Cairo has gone 12-28, a .429 average in his place, but flubbed some balls hit his way today.
- The three runs surrendered by Garcia were the first he's allowed in St. Louis this year.
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ugh
I refuse to acknowledge Garcia. Just can’t do it
"I don't challenge Murphy, even if he's 0 for 20. Not him, not ever." - Mario Soto
He looks fantastic. That cutter to keep righties honest and the fastball/off-speed stuff to lefties
That dude is going to be good….sadly
i doubt his era will shoot up to 4
it would take an incredible regression. That being said, it will go up, I think Garcia is a fine pitcher, but I don’t think he is this good.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Shh.
Those are the best fans in baseball, remember?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
ERA's over 1.00 are overrated
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
Let's be clear
everybody who has an ERA under 2.00 is going to have peripherals that make them look lucky (unless you are Pedro Martinez, circa 1999). That does not mean that a pitcher is way overrated by his ERA. It just means that it’s pretty damn hard to have peripherals that will be representative of a sub-2 ERA. Sure, he’s going to have some regression on his ERA, but that doesn’t make him a bad pitcher and it doesn’t make him “lucky.” It just means that a sub-2 ERA is ridiculously hard to maintain. One bad outing where he gives up a grand slam can ruin that pretty quickly.
Frankly, you look foolish calling a pitcher with a sub-2 ERA “not good” at this point. Hell, his FIP is 3.04 and his xFIP is 3.74. The Reds don’t have any starters with numbers that good. So, if you think that Garcia is “not good” then you think Leake is “not good” also. Are you willing to make that statement?
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by Slyde on Jun 1, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was hoping to start an acronym guessing contest
Oh well.
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
Fun, Intelligent, and Pretty?
s’why she dumped you, heh.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 1, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If you ever wonder why I hate you, this is it. :)
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
Fucking Incredibly Psychotic?
Fatter In Person?
Funny-looking In Pictures? (some will get this, some won’t)
(a) Foolishly Insipid Person?
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
Is Mike Leake not good either
because this statement seems to stem from a hatred of the Cardinals more than anything. Not that I don’t sympathize with that.
TTC is on "Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives" tonight
A few minutes from now
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
didnt realize that many spices went into the burgers or the chili
i gotz to try the Wasabi Ginger sauce next trip.
"then skip it"....
Honestly, it seemed like they portrayed TTC as a place to get chili and they have a bunch of sauces
Never had the chili, but it looks damn intriguing
The owner kinda came across as a smug SOB, IMO, and Guy didn’t seem all that impressed with anything except the chili and the reduced wine sauce.
I hate to say it, but if you have to rely on exotic sauces (although I’m sure they’re all really damn good) as the focal point of your coming out party to a national Food Network audience, then what does that really say about your burger? It seemed like an afterthought that they put so many spices into each burger.
TTC is still Top 3 in burgers in Cincinnati, but I didn’t see where this really helped them lay claim to being best burger. If anything, Triple D made them look like they have 2 signature menu items (chili and then a burger with some exotic sauce).
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 1, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Today would have been memorable
If the Yankees had been playing the Red Sox in the greatest sports rivalry ever.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
no Reds even on the honorable mention list
Unless you count former Red FeLo.
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Glad I wasn't around much for this one
Word is they’ll get some bullpen help for tomorrow, but the problem is, who? EDR can’t come back for 7 more days. I bet they option Fisher and call up Burton, but when they are allowed, I’d also love to see them DFA Lincoln and call up EDR.
We really need a good long outing from Cueto tomorrow
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on May 31, 2010 10:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
they can call up EDR
If they put someone on the DL.
They could call up Maloney or Wood.
Of course, Fay suggests Chapman.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
They can't call up EDR yet
He needs to be in AAA for 10 days after being sent down
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
there's an exception
for injury. If the Reds put a player on the DL, they can call up EDR even though it hasn’t been ten days.
IIRC, it doesn’t have to be a pitcher, either. They could put a position player on the DL, and call up EDR tomorrow.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Votto is probably going to play tomorrow
so unless they can DL Fisher or Lincoln for an inflated ERA, EDR is stuck in AAA.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on May 31, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think taking Lincoln to a ledge on the 35th floor of a building
and asking him to pitch his way out of it might yield to a stint on the DL.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
I was thinking maybe Rhodes
He’s been struggling with a sore foot for awhile now.
And there’s always the ol’ phantom injury. Have some kid like Heisey come up with a strain or sprain. Better to be on the DL with the big club than playing in AAA.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Rhodes left yesterday's game with a cramp
according to Fay.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on May 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
But he’s also been struggling with a sore foot for awhile.
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since last season
i think it is something he can pitch through. DL’ing Rhodes simply so the Reds can recall EDR isn’t a good idea.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on May 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It's actually probably the worst idea I've ever heard.
Why in the hell would you needlessly put your best reliever on the DL so you can call up a rookie a few days earlier to pitch in some low-leverage 6th inning situations?
worse than:
?
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Trains make everything better!
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Other than Votto, they don't have any other injuries
Unless they make one up, of course.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
Fay also suggests moving Bailey to the bullpen
which is almost equally ridiculous.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on May 31, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll wait for the end of the season to see, but I think that may be the fright move in the end
/dotel’d, gagne’d, eckersly’d
i think with his wildness he does better in the rotation
it is easier to hide wildness over 6 or 7 innings ,than an inning, and I think Bailey has the stuff to be effectively wild.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on May 31, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt he'd nibble as much if he were coming out of the pen.
And his stuff would probably play up real, real nice. 97 MPH fastball, 90 MPH splitter, and a slider not much slower than that would be pretty nifty out of the pen.
Of course, there’s really no reason at all to even think about moving him until he fails so bad as a starter that the Reds options are DFA or bullpen.
sadly, me too
’Ol Hoss just continues to lack command and control
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 1, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
my other problem with Bailey in the pen is
it takes him an inning or two to get comfortable. Plus it takes him more pitches than ordinary to warm up. He throws harder as the game goes on.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Moving LeCure to the bullpen when Bailey comes back
makes more sense (provided he keeps pitching well.)
by the finest muffins on May 31, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on May 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
LeCure has one game
… I think the notion that he keeps pitching well is far from established. But I like to think he’s legit.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
Oh, absolutely.
That’s why I included the caveat.
by the finest muffins on Jun 1, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm recing your recap
despite Garcia because the healdine made me feel a bit better about this. We have to shake this off and go after them tomorrow.
Miserable game, but nice caption.
Now I want to do a Magritte-inspired baseball illustration.
by the finest muffins on May 31, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
I think there is a limit ....
… to how crappy our relievers should be. Losing this game 7-4 would have been bad enough, or even 8-4. But when these guys come in there and apparently think their job is to give up hit after hit after hit … geez.
If there is some good reason why Lincoln remains on this roster, I’d like to hear it.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
even in a 12-3 blowout
Heisey and Janish can’t get in the game.
Well, I suppose they might be saving Janish to pitch. But what about Heisey?
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Didn't Janish play 9 innings yesterday?
I personally would love to see Heisy play at least 2 times a week for Stubbs, but, since they are both hitting well of late, it’s probably a silly idea
Stubbs' OPS is currently 80 points higher than Lando
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on May 31, 2010 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just watched a karate movie called "High Kick Girl!"
Given the hair and delivery, seems like an appropriate name for Bronson.
Don't forget the new KK with Will Smith's kid in it
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
I'm seeing chapman pitch today
It is the soothing thing about history that it does repeat itself. -Gertrude Stein
reds bullpen seems like it could really use
one more solid RHP. After Cordero and maybe Owings the options aren’t good.
fix'd
one more solid RHP. After Cordero and maybe Owings the options aren’t good.
Time to bring back Pete .... Pete Mackanin that is.
Owings is going to blow up.
Unless he lowers he 5.4/9 BB rate his sub 4 era is unsustainable. Owings is best left where he is, as the long man, i really don’t want somebody regularly pitching in the 7th or 8th who will walk everybody in the ballpark.
He also gives up way to many fly balls.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Owings?
OWINGS?
I mean, I guess he’s looked better than Masset, Fisher, Ondrusek, and Lincoln so far…but that’s not exactly saying much. Owings is a pretty asstastic pitcher to have coming out of the pen. This year’s Reds club isn’t gonna get the same kind of offensive boost that last year’s did from Owings, and he really hasn’t been a good pitcher at all. As Justin said…Owings is gonna go boom in a very bad way.
I think Owings is popular
because we haven’t seen him much.
Kinda for the same reason Ramon Ortiz was my favorite starting pitcher in April, 2005, because he spent most of the month on the DL.
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we reasonably at this point
call this the “Janish effect?”
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
full season projections (wins and losses)
1/3 of the season is in the books, here’s how the staff projects based on ytd production
Pitchers
Arroyo 15-9
Leake 12-0
Harang 12-15
Cueto 15-3
Homer 3-6
Cordero 3-9, 45 saves
Owings 9-3
Massett 9-9
Rhodes 3-3
Lincoln 3-0
DLH 0-6
Fisher 3-0
Lecure 3-0
"then skip it"....
FISHER IS A BETTER PITCHER THAN RHODES!!!
"Every day we expect to win and here lately we've been doing that."-Homer Bailey
by justin007000 on Jun 1, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Statistically maybe...when measuring intimidation and clutch...NO
My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.
Not to be nitpicky, but the season isn't a third over until after the Cards series
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Please don't confuse these issues with the facts.
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