Griffey in the Home Run Derby?
"I'm not a home run hitter. I've just got good pop."
When we think of Ken Griffey, Jr., few things come to our minds before his impact and performances in the Home Run Derby over the years. In fact, when we think of the Home Run Derby, few people no one comes to mind before Junior.
So the basis here is simple: vote for Junior to put him in the Home Run Derby. Why? Four reasons.
1. Make the Derby more fun. While it will always be one of our favorite parts of All-Star Weekend, the Derby has recently lost a little of its luster. Every now and then, we get a Derby moment worth remembering (see: Hamilton, Josh), but we think that the average baseball fan would have a tough time listing off recent winners or performances. Also, after the first round, it's not uncommon to get bored of the Derby and just switch to a rerun of Seinfeld. If Griffey were in the Derby, there's no question that he would attract great fan interest and, for as long as he lasts, make the competition significantly more interesting.
2. Protect his place in Derby history. Griffey is the only guy to win the Derby more than once--and he did it three times (1994, '98, '99). Here's a list of total HRD home runs. Not sure we have much to worry about from several of these guys, but Ryan Howard (41) and Josh Hamilton (35) are definitely threats (and don't forget the immortal Bryce Harper!).
1. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 70
2. Jason Giambi - 67
3. Sammy Sosa - 65
4. Mark McGwire - 56
5. David Ortiz - 54
6. Albert Pujols - 50
7. Barry Bonds - 47
8. Bobby Abreu - 41
9. Ryan Howard - 41
10. Lance Berkman - 39
We realize that it's unlikely Griffey would smash 30+ bombs in the 2010 Derby. But we do think that, however many he hits, it will make his total significantly more out of reach from his competition.
3. Because no one else wants to be in it. Well, sort of. It is no well-kept secret that many players are weary of competing in the Derby. Whether it is because of the extra fatigue, the effect of the Derby on their swings, or their hesitancy to risk embarrassing themselves--competing in the Home Run Derby is not something that all players seem to yearn for. This was perhaps best displayed in the 2009 Derby when it seemed as if almost every All-Star Game participant was given an open invitation to join the Derby (Mark Teixeira, Torii Hunter, and Justin Morneau were all known to have rejected invitations to join the competition).
4. Because he'd have a chance! Obviously, Griffey is not having a stellar season at the plate. While he certainly has other problems, chief among them may be his reduced bat speed. With a batting-practice pitcher out there, Junior would be able to regain his form and again, hit the long ball. We think Grif has a good of a chance of any of the participants to win the Derby. We're tellin' you there's a chance!
So, as the MLB only allows for players in the All-Star Game to compete in the Home Run Derby, we think that you should vote for Junior to get him back home and into the Derby.
Hate being that guy who just re-posts his blog entries, but try to support the campaign and check out the blog at: http://vote24junior.blogspot.com/
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C'mon people!
Vote Dunner first!!!!
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
FYI...
I don’t think that you can vote for the HR derby on the online ballot, just the in the park one.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
nope, there's just a fan poll.
It’s here
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
There is the one on the in the park paper ballot.
I know that because I saw Dunner was on it.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
fan poll doesn't actually do anything
I don’t know if they have it written anywhere explicitly, but I don’t think there’s been a case of a player competing in the derby who wasn’t elected to the all-star game.
I imagine most of the guys prefer the weekend off if they're not getting the glory and contract benefits of playing in the game.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
by souldrummer on May 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Given recent events and the Rolen fiasco...
…I will consult my colleagues at Federal Baseball before endorsing any candidates not named Adam Dunn.
In Washington, DC, we tend to take our votes pretty seriously and undergo endless lobbying first.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
You know you can vote for up to 3 in each league, right?
Since Dunn is on the ballot, one could write in Griffey, write in Gomes, vote for Dunn, and still vote for one more in the NL and two more in the AL. There’s not a lot of controversy here, really.
by the finest muffins on May 29, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That I do.
Campaigning for non-Nationals has been suspended until I resolve the Rolen/Zim issue with Brendanukkah.
Again, my proposal. If Zim outperforms Rolen in DC, y’all stop the Rolen love for a man who might be able to stop David Wright. If Rolen out performs Zim, you guys can pick a reasonable ballot for me going forward that I can rationally defend to the rest of the world.
I would also be willing to entertain a side wager with mister Brendanukkah not to exceed $9.00, aka the cost of a beer at the Red Loft in Nats Park.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
I don't want to see Griffey in the homerun derby.
He doesn’t deserve to go. The only reason he’s still a major league baseball player is because he was good 15 years ago. I don’t want to see the man shit on his legacy any more than he already has the past two seasons, and his derby showing would be an embarrassing one. Junior can’t hit anymore, the homerun derby would only serve to expose that, and putting him in there to extend some retardedly useless “record” like “most homeruns in homerun derby history!!!!” Griffey needs to do everyone a favor and retire like he should’ve done a while ago and not drag out this “I’m still a real baseball player” charade until past the all-star break.
I am OK with a celeb swing or two
no offense to Griffey but he should have bowed out at the top of his game.
I don’t even really like the HR Derby beyond the pro wrestling aura it presents.
The whole ASG package is a testimony to marketing. Fuck, just play the game.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
So you're saying we're watching our generation's Willie Mays playing for the Mets?
by Highlifeman21 on May 31, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say last year was more comparable to Mays' last year with the Mets.
This year is what would’ve happened if Willie Mays had decided he wanted to play another year even after his awful final year with the Mets. Junior hit .214/.324/.411 last year and then decided to come back for another year (he’s at .186/.252/.206 this year). Mays went to the Mets for about half a season before his final year and hit a very respectable .267/.411/.446 before putting up the infamous .211/.303/.344 line in his final season. I really don’t think there’s been a worse player in baseball this year than Junior, and I hate to see him go out like that. Putting him in the derby would highlight the fact that he’s completely done, not give him a last hurrah, and I don’t want the last two significant memories of Junior to be him sleeping in the clubhouse and him getting shut-out in the homerun derby. He needs to do everyone a favor and hang them up, not stubbornly act like he can still play baseball while also showing more or less total apathy towards his failure in that regard. He’s hurting his team on and off the field at this point, and because of his legendary status, the Mariners really can’t do anything but try to nudge him towards retirement.
I must admit, I'm confused by the Griffey love, here.
Wasn’t he like injured all the time and the reservoir for broken Reds dreams.
I can kind of understand the Griffey love in Seattle. He did help put the team on the map. But he basically said he wanted to leave and condemned them to years of suck while offering replacement level production for the last two years.
Interested in any info on why the Griffey love from Reds fans.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
Let me paint a picture for you...
In 1999, the Reds came within a single game of making the playoffs for the first time in what we thought back then was a long time (oh, poor naive us.) Fans and players were disappointed, sure, but it didn’t feel like an end. It felt like a beginning. That optimism swelled to new heights when Junior came over from Seattle that offseason. The city fell in love immediately.

It’s not just that Junior was possibly the best player in the game at the time. He had a history here. He was connected to the glory days of the Big Red Machine, played high school baseball here, and wanted to come home. He was the final piece that was missing from that ’99 season.
People forget Griffey played well that first year, and the Reds even had a winning season. He was, as expected, a joy to watch. Then the injuries came. And sure, the team never made the playoffs, and, sure, some fans turned on him. But they were the ones who weren’t paying attention. The injuries were never Junior’s fault, and you could always tell it ate him up to not be able to play. And if the front office didn’t build a winner around him, that wasn’t his fault, either. When he was healthy, Griffey played well for the Reds. He continued to hit (including home runs #500 and 600) and he even played his trademark good defense for several years.
He may not have been the Savior everyone wanted him to be, but that wasn’t his fault. I sometimes still can’t believe that Ken Griffey, Jr., was a Red for ten years. I can’t believe that I got to see him play. He was one of the best, and he played for my team. That’s worth celebrating.
by the finest muffins on May 29, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I shed a few tears the day he was traded
I love Ken Griffey, Jr. He was my childhood hero. He was a lefty who had fun playing the game, just like me. I will never forget how excited I was when he signed with the Reds. I admit that I cried a few tears when he was traded. Like muffins said, when your hero plays for your team, that’s a special memory.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Thanks for the history.
When you factor in his dad and the reservoir of the goodwill that the Big Red Machine brought, it’s hard to dislike Griffey if you’re a true Reds fan.
Parallel situation may be Joe Gibbs II for my Washington Redskins. Objectively, the record wasn’t all that great and he may have left the roster in worse shape than when he arrived. But there were still highlight moments while he was here that reminded us of the good ’ole days when we were a force in the NFC East. And we are very good at mental contortions to blame all the problems on Snyder and Vinny than on Joe and his weaknesses in adjusting to the modern game.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
Very nicely said
I’ve said many times before that the day we traded for Griffey was one of the best days of my life as a sports fan. Not much has come close to that feeling.
And souldrummer, chew on this. Griffey, Dunn, and Kearns were meant to be the Reds outfield for a decade. They were going to lead us to unimagined glories. Oh well.
by Brendanukkah on May 30, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember coming home to a angry message on . . .
the machine. As a Reds fan since 77’ (trade for the greatest pitcher), I had been
telling a friend who was a big Mariners fan that Griffey was going to come home to Cincy
for about a year. The deal happened and his call was basically " I’m pissed ! I can’t
believe this has happened and Seattle’s front office are a bunch of MORONS !! I’m
never watching baseball again " I was giddy at the prospect of Junior running down
doubles in the gaps and bombing from the three hole. Great 1st year, then the nicks and
hammy kicked in.
GO REDS !!!!!
It's GO time !
The treatment Junior was subjected to here is still a point of embarassment for me.
He destroyed his shoulder diving for a ball in center field, his hamstring tore off the bone while he was busting his ass rounding third, etc…and people gave him grief for it, and had the gall to boo him. With the cynicism of the ‘fans’ during that time period, so many were just hoping for him to fail. This for a guy who could have written his own paycheck, followed the dollar as is the norm for this era, but instead – at the height of his powers – elected to take less money to play in front of these booing ingrates at the club of his father. Even before the steroid house of cards collapsed around him, this made him a shining beacon of positivity and class in a shabby era of the game.
by Gapper on May 30, 2010 4:04 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
+1
I really have to say that the commentary in support of Junior here is a real testimony of the intelligence and baseball sense of your fanbase. Imagine if he’d come to NYC with that contract and underperformed as he did? Even on message boards like this you’d still see a substantial percentage of people ripping the guy.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
by souldrummer on May 30, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't get too excited a bout us.
I, for one, definitely got more than frustrated with him at points during his tenure. I yelled, I bitched, I moaned. We were hardly a loving fanbase, even here at RR. All that behind us, though, I have no regrets about him coming over here at all.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on May 30, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I don't remember much animosity at all to Junior himself here
Of course, there was our fair share of not liking how he was used, but I always got the sense that our fanbase here was always behind Junior.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
RR might have been
but i certainly dont think the Reds fanbase at large was. Marty hated him and everyone followed suit, as far i can tell.
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 31, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
many of his teammates hated him too
so did rob dibble.
marty wasn’t alone in his dislike of griffey. which makes me think he may have had some justification.
And Junior wasn't alone in being disliked by Marty
Which makes me think that Marty might be a touch grouchy. But that’s not to say it wasn’t justified. 20/20 and all but it was a horrible idea to have Junior and Dunn in the same OF with a fly-ball staff.
Marty grouchy? NOOOO!!!
/sarcasm’d
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Dibble hating him might be a plus in my vote.
Because I can’t stand Dibble in DC.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
Dibble is an egocentric creep. Marty is an egocentric curmdgeon. Junior is an incredibly talented shy and and insolated person.
Fuck Dibble and his anger
Fuck Marty and his condescension
Thanks Junior for making the game fun for so many years.
My name is Madville and I'm a JonnyGomesLaynceNixaddict.
by Madville on Jun 1, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the animosity wasn't towards junior
it was just frustration because his tenure here promised to be so much better.
it seemed that everything that could go wrong did.
young junya would have achieved beloved status here
old junya wasnt everyone’s cup of tea. a tad cranky. not always a max effort guy.
but…..he lived life and played ball clean. warrants mentioning.
"then skip it"....
I was @ the shoulder destroying dive for the ball game
And Junya had no business, I repeat no business, diving for that ball.
But, I think I know why he did….
I think he dove b/c of perception. He wanted to show the fans that he still cared, he didn’t sign a HUGE (deferred) contract for the sake of $$$$, he could still play at an elite level and that ultimately he wanted to win. Instead, the casual fans chalked it up to “Junior’s hurt again, big surprise”. Fans booed Junya starting about 2001 (once the Reds stopped winning, I might add), and pretty much booed him out of town. He could never live up to the expectation of the casual fan, and I think he knew it, so he ended up with injuries from trying too hard, or pushing his body to the limits of its breaking point (which it broke).
I feel sorry for Junya (and Dunn to some extent) b/c the Front Office NEVER surrounded him with talent, but instead expected him to save Cincinnati baseball.
by Highlifeman21 on May 31, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This post has generated
a ton of commentary pro and con about Griffey’s time in Cincy.
Not many of you are weighing in, however, on whether he should be in the derby.
That was, I think, what the guy wanted to know.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
I'm with Geki
He absolutely should not be.
by Brendanukkah on May 31, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be three of us.
What would be sad if, if asked, he’d actually accept.
This is completely unsustainable, but man, is it fun while it lasts. -- BubbaFan
I want him there
because I want the AL all-star lineup to be burdened with his presence.
by ken on Jun 1, 2010 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry if I helped push this one off the rails.
I’m kind of a no on Griffey. I’m kind of with the post above that baseball’s about winning games and he’s hurting his team right now by not being able to produce.
Ian Desmond...because the future starts now for the Washington Nationals.
Oh, you want an answer?
Then no. Hell no. Shit no, man.
by Highlifeman21 on Jun 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

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