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Both Miles and Balentien cleared waivers. Miles was let go, which means the trade this winter was Adam Rosales for cash. Balentien has been assigned to Louisville. I wonder if they'll be dumping an outfielder since it's kinda crowded already.

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Good news

A little extra outfield depth at AAA.

by RedsMasochist on Apr 14, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad Balentien cleared

I figured someone would pick him up. It’ll be good to have a little thunder to call up if need later in the season.

by wishfuldrifter on Apr 14, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

ditto'd

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 14, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

except

TavHarris should probably be the family name

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 14, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally with you

It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It's what Dusty thinks that matters, and he's a knucklehead.

by PeteyHendrix on Apr 14, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good news

I guess the Nationals are happy with Willy Taveras and Willie Harris in RF? That team is weird. I think there’s a clause their charter that says they have to pick up a certain # of Reds castoffs per season, but I’d never have guessed they’d essentially chooseTaveras over Wlad for a corner outfield position.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 14, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we say it?

Can we say this another move by Walt that worked splendidly? Sure, we might liked to have had Balentien instead of Nix, but now we have both AND the option to send either of them to AAA! And in the time that we didn’t have Wlad, we did go 5-3. This was a gamble, sure, but it paid off. Walt’s coming up roses every time!

by Brendanukkah on Apr 14, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

heer heer!

im gonna have to start taking back some of the things ive said about him.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 14, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

beer beer!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Apr 14, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta agree, 'nukkah

I just hope Bruce’s 2010 mirrors that of Walt’s first few years….slow starter, but it clicks after a few rough patches. Walt’s navigated this pretty damn well, I must say, but the make or break will be mid-season when he’s got to deal with Chaproyorang before the deadline.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 14, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

After a junkyard of false starts

Walt seems to be cruising.

It’s possible they felt Nix would be more likely to refuse assignment and be snatched up than Wlad being grabbed on waivers after rosters had been set. The risk of losing Wlad may have been worth it to gain some short-term depth at AAA and MLB level. Still, like you say, most would rather have Wlad up north than Nix.

With how craptacular the LF production has been so far, we may be seeing Wlad in due time.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 14, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Green with envy

because Pete Rose’s birthday shall henceforth be known as Happy Balentien’s Day?

by the finest muffins on Apr 14, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This will always, always get a Rec from me.

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by Farneyismycopilot on Apr 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure we can send either of them down to AAA once they are on the big club without again exposing each of them to waivers.

Can anyone confirm this? I believe they are both out of options.

It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It's what Dusty thinks that matters, and he's a knucklehead.

by PeteyHendrix on Apr 14, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

we know Wladdy is

and im sure a AAAA ’er like Nix is as well.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 14, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nix isn't listed as out of options on the MLBTR page

but I’m guessing that’s an oversight? He doesn’t have the 5 years of service time to refuse assignment.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm becoming a bigger Jocketty supporter everyday

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Apr 14, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

for Jock and supporter in the same sentence

by Highlifeman21 on Apr 14, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting note

From TMI, via espn.com:

  • Apparently, leadoff is the new seventh. Leadoff batters are hitting .249 with an OBP of .316. Meanwhile, the seventh spot is a collective .250 with an OBP of .316

The rest of the article’s Insider, so I won’t link, but it’s pretty telling, I guess.

Apparently, we’re not the only ones who are having issues thusfar. Also, I was stat-hunting today, and for as much as we’ve bitched about our offense thusfar, we’re 9th in runs and 6th in total bases in the NL thusfar, while having faced several so-called ‘aces’ in the process.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 14, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

and the word of the day is

THUSFAR, I guess.

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 14, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Philly will think about picking up Miles

Rollins just went on the DL. They have Castro and nothing at short right now, and no good options in the minors.

by ken on Apr 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd trade Janish for Halliday

I’d grouse about it, but I’d do it in the end

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by Cy Schourek on Apr 14, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It's what Dusty thinks that matters, and he's a knucklehead.

by PeteyHendrix on Apr 14, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

outstanding...

he needs to play every single day now.

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by GrooveLeg on Apr 14, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Add Wlad to the list of Bats who should be with the big league team

The difference would be very marginal, but in terms of “bullets in the gun,” I’d rather have Sutton, Burton/Maloney and Wlad up. It looks like they may call up del Rosario or Maloney for temporary bullpen help, which probably means Cairo gets sent down? Though I wonder how long Ondrusek will skate.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 14, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It turns out my uncharacteristic, somewhat embarassing display of emotion 11 days ago was a bit premature

And I’m OK with that!

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Apr 14, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not really that crowded.

Josh Anderson, Danny Dorn, Chris Heisey, Luis Terrero, and Todd Frazier. Dorn has been playing mostly first base and Terrero has been at DH. Sweet has also started Sutton and Wilkin Castillo in the outfield for one game each. I wouldn’t think finding some playing time for Balentien would be too hard.

by RedsMasochist on Apr 14, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Frazier in left, Heisey center, and Wlad in right is a good OF. Put Dorn at first and let the other guys fight over being first base coach

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by nycredsfan on Apr 14, 2010 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i guess i didn't think of it that way...

i was assuming dorn was playing RF and they were hoping to get END and frazier quality time in left.

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by GrooveLeg on Apr 14, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I forgot about Francisco.

He’ll probably be in the third base rotation as well as left. Sutton has started a couple of games there, with Valaika, Castillo, Frazier, and Francisco starting once each so far.

by RedsMasochist on Apr 14, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, so Janish gets the start tonight, and it's actually kind of annoying

Dickerson CF
Janish SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 1B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Gomes LF
Hernandez C
Bailey p

Does he seriously have to bat 2nd? No offense, Paul, but I wouldn’t bat you higher than 8th.

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by Slyde on Apr 14, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding. This is idiotic ... and I WANT Janish on this team.

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by Farneyismycopilot on Apr 14, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

this isnt hard, dusty

vs rhp w/ these guys

dickerson
rolen
votto
phillips i guess
bruce
gomes
hernandez
janish

by jsl413 on Apr 14, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd switch BP and Rolen

but otherwise I’m with you

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Apr 14, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You also wouldn't bat Cabrera there.

But…you know, you’re not Dusty.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Apr 14, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Apr 14, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm more likely to bat Cabrera there

than Janish. Even when I was in support of Janish playing every day, I wanted him to bat 8th. Sure, I’d probably bat Cabrera 8th too, but I’m not pulling my hair out because he bats 2nd. Cabrera batting 2nd is stupid. Janish batting 2nd is ignorant.

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by Slyde on Apr 14, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

None taken.

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by BobbyO on Apr 14, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of understand his thinking here (the thinking, not so much the result)

He likes a guy who can bunt, hit-and-run, or hit to the right side in the second spot. He sees Rolen as an “RBI guy” so he goes lower in the order, while Bruce and Gomes don’t make enough contact, and Hernandez is too slow.

by RedsMasochist on Apr 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would never, ever, ever put Janish 2nd either, but one thing you can say for him is that he makes a lot of contact.

Short pop-fly type contact, but still….

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by nycredsfan on Apr 14, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna play diablo's advocate here...

Maybe there is something to be said about “routine” here, something touches on the human side of the game. Not to defend Fistband’s complete disregard for the numbers, but maybe it has to do more with keeping the routine the same for most of the other 7 players in the line-up.

Somebody made the point today (I think in the thread about P-Doc’s great affection for Slyde) that maybe giving Nix the occasional start is more about balancing personalities and keeping everyone feeling positive about their role (though this doesn’t justify opening day). That said, we have all been pretty miffed that Yanni hasn’t gotten his shot yet, especially in light of the fact that he was our projected starting shortstop for most of the offseason.

I guess it goes back to the question about how you evaluate the “chemistry” of a team. I don’t have a clear answer, but if everyone is contributing in their roles and it is adding up to wins, I’m happy.

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by Verka Serduchka on Apr 14, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does Walt think of Janish

batting second? He has to be a bit perplexed.

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by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Apr 14, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Jocketty seems like an old-school guy. He probably agrees that the SS should bat second, or at least doesn’t see anything wrong with it.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 14, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he wouldn't

But even if he did, I don’t think he’d disagree with Dusty’s decision.

MLB Trade Rumors had an assessment of Jocketty up, before he came to the Reds. It described him as leading the anti-stathead brigade in St. Louis, and implied that that was the reason he was ousted. Just couldn’t get along with the stat side of the house.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 15, 2010 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

/hindsight 20/20'd

He needed to be hitting 4th.

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by crolfer on Apr 15, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

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