Great Scott! Where Rolen's going, we don't need Rhodes! Reds win in extra innings, 6-5.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 12, 2010 11:53 PM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Scott Rolen. Scott Rolen's Homers helped Scott Rolen's Reds win this game. The veteran third sacker went 3-5 with two home runs, three RBI, and two runs scored. Honorable mention goes to Dan Uggla, who went 4-4 with two doubles and a HBP.
Key Plays
- To the surprise and delight of their fans, the Reds got on the SunLife scoreboard first in the second inning. Scott Rolen hit the first of his home runs, and Jay Bruce finally got one of his hits to drop, ringing up a double. Laynce Nix got the RBY by driving Bruce in with a single.
- The Marlins did a good job of having long, professional at-bats off of Johnny Cueto, which caused some nerve-wracking moments. In the third inning, he hit Dan Uggla, and gave up back to back singles to John Baker and Cody Ross, which loaded the bases. Gaby Sanchez hit a grounder back to third base and the Reds opted to turn the double play, but let the run score. Reds lead, 2-1.
- Cueto's defense didn't necessarily help him out. In the third inning, Orlando Cabrera couldn't get to a ball hit by Cameron Maybin. Hanley Ramirez drew a walk, and then a wild pitch from Cueto put runners on second and third with one out. Former Red Jorge Cantu then did what he tends to do against us and hit a double, giving the Fish the lead. Cantu took third on a balk, but it didn't matter because Uggla hit a double. Fortunately, the Reds erased Uggla on a fielder's choice by John Baker, because Cody Ross then singled. But with runners on first and second, Cueto struck out Sanchez to end the inning. Marlins lead, 4-2.
- In the fourth inning, Scott Rolen homered again to keep the Reds within shouting distance. 4-3.
- The top of the Reds order got in on the action in the fifth inning. Drew Stubbs led off with a single, and then frustrating Orlando Cabrera made up for some of his woes in the field with a two run homer to give the Reds the lead again. Reds lead, 5-4.
- Cueto was over 100 pitches, so Mike Lincoln came in and pitched a scoreless sixth, then ran into some trouble in the seventh. With two outs, Cantu worked a walk, and then Uggla hit a broken bat single that moved him to third. An unlucky break for Lincoln, but Dusty needs to learn that Lincoln struggles in his second inning of work. Anyway, Danny Ray Herrera came in and promptly gave up a single to Jersey Shore soundalike Ronnie Paulino. Tie game.
- The Reds nearly pulled out the game in the eighth. Brandon Phillips took advantage of Cantu playing deep at third by putting down a bunt, then went to second on the error. Rolen professionally moved him to third with a grounder, but after a walk to Jay Bruce, pinch hitter Johnny Gomes hit a pop up to first, and Ramon Hernandez grounded out to short.
- The Marlins took their turn at winning it in the ninth, with a one out single from Ramirez, a walk to Cantu, and an infield single from Uggla when Joey Votto couldn't beat Uggla to the bag. Nick Masset was covering first, but Joey didn't make the toss. With the bases loaded and only one out, Masset then struck out Paulino and got former Red Cody Ross to ground out. Tie game, bonus baseball!
- With hero of the game Scott Rolen due up in the tenth inning, you sensed the game wouldn't last too much longer. And indeed it didn't. Votto started the inning with a walk, and cleanup hitter Phillips sacrificed him to second. Rolen then hit a single on a soft liner to right field, which was enough to score Votto and give the Reds a 6-5 victory!
Other Notes
- The Reds have won games started by every pitcher except Aaron Harang, but none of the starters have a win.
- Jorge Cantu has had a hit and an RBI in every game this season.
- This was Rolen's first multihomer game since Sept. 15, 2006. His three homers this season lead the Reds, and he's OPSing 1.127.
- The Reds are over .500 for the first time since July 4, 2009.
- Announced attendance on a 72 degree night in Miami was 10,119, but estimates put the actual attendance closer to 3,000.
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Great recap
That Aaron Harang stat is bizarre. It is like he has the worst luck in the major leagues. I think Rolen should be the 4 hitter. At least until Brandon Phillips starts hitting a little better.
Any word on what happend with the Massett-Votto thing? Why didn’t Votto toss? When we win, it’s not that big of a deal, but that could have been a game loser right there.
It’s nice to win games like this, but have all of our wins come form late inning rallies?
right when votto was going to toss the ball
Massett looked down at the bag and it froze Joey. Obviously he should have just tossed it- Masset was there with plenty of time- just a reaction.
got it
I didn’t actually see the play. I guess he thought Massett wouldn’t catch it? That would have been a disaster (Massett not catching it), but next time he needs to just throw. We won’t get that lucky again I don’t think.
yeah votto fucked up
i was ready to ship him back north. I threw something. I was in a blind range.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Apr 13, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad I didn't see it
because my overriding principle of “never criticize Joey Votto” would have conflicted with my desire to express my displeasure with the state of affairs lol I would have been a motivaitonal mess!
i think votto actually did the smart thing there...
on the replay, masset clearly wasn’t aware of where the ball was and if votto rushed the throw it might have been off-target (as we’ve seen from him before). if that ball is anywhere but masset’s chest, it would probably end up near the dugout and the runner at third would have scored. just my opinion.
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I agree
It really looked to me like Masset never made eye contact with Votto. He appeared to look for the base first and then to look off toward second, like maybe he thought Votto had tried to turn two? Maybe Votto should have thrown it anyway, but I can see why he was hesitant.
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that's how I saw it.
Masset looked concerned about getting his foot on the bag so he could field the throw from Tubby. Since he obviously thought he had more time before he was going to catch the ball, I assumed he thought Joey had thrown to second and he had a little more time before he had to look up.
Nothing terrible, just two people making a bonehead play at the same time.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 13, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
that makes sense
I can totally understand not wanting to throw. Losing a game on a botched throw to the pitcher would be terrible. Massett must have nerves of steel, though, to work out of that one.
Good to see such sound fundamentals recently removed from ST
I mean I would think pitchers covering 1B and Joey Votto getting the ball to said pitchers covering 1B might be something they’d work on in ST, but I could be very wrong.
I’ll just blame Masset after seeing the replay, assuming that Votto didn’t want to make a toss he seemed convinced Masset wouldn’t catch, which would have resulted in the Fish plating runs. I have no problem with Votto making the more conservative play.
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they both screwed up
but the play ultimately didn’t matter, so no big whoop.
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I blame Cabrera
If Janish had been playing, he would have taken the ball from Votto, and taken the ball to first himself, clotheslining the runner with his free hand.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is there a replay of the Massett play?
anfd Janish is probably good enough to do that and make the play BP failed to make when he slipped. Janish has range over the entire infield!
I'd like to see
the stat of our starting 5 pitchers’ batting average over the first 6 games of the season versus the BA of the starting pitchers for the rest of the NL. Cueto’s the only pitcher without a hit, I think. And some of our pitchers have multiple hits so far this season.
Homer Bailey’s 1/1
Mike Leake’s 2/2
Bronson Arroyo’s 1/3.
I don’t think Harang or Cueto have gotten any hits yet. Of the 3 with hits, they’re at .699, and averaging the 5 starters all together, they’re at .466 as a staff average. Nicccce.
A hooker in Minneapolis.
Nevermind
Harang is also hitless.
A hooker in Minneapolis.
by Lucky Pierre on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
And, only one pitcher has more than one hit.
I did my homework after I posted. My B.
A hooker in Minneapolis.
by Lucky Pierre on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
"We don't need Rhodes..."
One of the funnier headlines I’ve seen here.
And yes, once again the Reds win at the end but it wouldn’t have happened without scoring early.
very true
I was just thinking, if Rolen hadn’t hit the second homerun we’d be in trouble (this because Rolen noted that his two homeruns weren’t his most important ABs of the game)
It was nice to see some hitting and scoring. Best thing aside form the win, though, was Bruce breaking out of his slump some. If he starts hitting this lineup will be much more dangerous.
Yeah, I gave Bruce kind of short shrift in the recap
But he had two hits and a walk. A very nice day for him at the plate, and hopefully the priming the pump needed.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
definitely looking better
he didn’t look lost and wasn’t getting luck with his hits. I hope that is a good sign for him. As for Votto, he was robbed of a second hit so I’m not too worried about his average either.
Priming the pump needed?
That sounds really dirty
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel pretty good about things
Think about it, Cueto wasn’t good today, but he wasn’t awful either. 5 innings of 4 run baseball is now bad for us. 2005 or 2006 this was something to be expected or almost hoped for, Cueto didn’t win the game but he didn’t lose it either. I’ll take games like this.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
Marlins' run in the 7th
For those who missed it the Marlins’ run off Herrera was interesting. Lefty Smurf induced a hard groundball up the middle that had hit written all over it. Phillips should great range and knocked it down, but couldn’t get the ball out of his glove cleanly. The runner just beat his flip to second. It was rightly scored a hit as I don’t think many second basemen reach the ball. BP almost had a highlight to go along with his barehanded play at first the other day.
Janish could have ranged over from short stop and made that play
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Apr 13, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Janish can do anything!
except get playing time from The Dusty
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought they got him on that play
And it was a HELL of a stop by BP.
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RBY?
Because he loves you!
Missed this game, but glad to see an extra-innings win that doesnt completely destroy the bullpen
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Harang was stretching
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Apr 13, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but they weren't in San Diego
what gives?
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I fell asleep almost immediately after the game
and had a nightmare that Dusty was warming up Homer in extras. I might have a problem.
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
So far so good
Reds are finding ways to win.
Instead of finding ways to lose.
El Kabrerra is hitting a bit, Rolen hitting a lot…but the left side defensively is porous at best.
I agree with Poodle…Rolen is the best candidate for the #4 slot.
And the burning question of the day – Will Jannish first pitch or first play the field for next appearance in a game?
Potential doesn't win games.
Who?
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by nycredsfan on Apr 13, 2010 7:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rolen should definitely be hitting 4. Is Cabrera the best option at 2?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
so long as he's hitting like he has recently and not the beginning of the season
if BP wasn’t so prone to DP’s, I would say he would be great as a #2 hitter.
no way
you want a guy who can take pitches in the 2 spot, and BP is as big a hacker as they come. Then again, it looks like Cabrera is exactly the same way.
I personally think Rolen would be a great 2 hitter. Sees a bunch of pitches, makes very good contact, has decent but not great power.
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BP was taking a lot of pitches in the Cards series...
Has he gotten more aggressive?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
He's swung at 48% of the pitches he's seen (looking at BBRef)
which is about 4% lower than the last two seasons. He’s seen about 4% fewer pitches in the strike zone so far though, so there’s that. His 3.7 pitches per plate appearance is only .04 higher than last year’s number, which was a career high. The MLB average is about 3.76 Pit/PA.
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Rolen is the ideal hitter for the 2 hole
except, of course, Dusty’s line-ups are still from 1982 and “you have to have a fast guy batting second.”
Rolen would be so awesome in the 2 hole
TWSS
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Rolen shouldn't be in the 5 spot in any case...
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
When Dickerson and Stubbs both appear in the same starting lineup
Dickerson
Stubbs
When Gomes or Nix is playing in the OF, I say go crazy and put The Deal in the 2 spot behind Stubbs
Stubbs
The Deal
Votto
Rolen
Gomes/Nix
Phillips
Clutch Man
Tubby/Slo-Cab/Whatever the Hell else we’re calling Cabrera
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruce should get some good pitches ahead of Votto...
Although then you end up with a string of up to 5 righties in the bottom of the order if Gomes is starting…
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
That's fine
If Dickerson isn’t in the lineup, he can then pinch hit for Gomes later in the game.
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough...
I guess you’d see this lineup more against lefties anyway.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Jay Bruce seems to be missing from the lineup...
Either he’s The Deal, or Highlifeman thinks we should be playing Cairo in right… I pray for the former.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Jay Bruce
He’s The Deal, they call him The Deal, baby
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Apr 13, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He's The Deal
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Apr 13, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was supposed to be his new walk-up music.
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t on Opening Day.
by the finest muffins on Apr 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't for Game 2 either
Zizzy Mane must be pizzed.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Apr 13, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
/House Plant'd
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Apr 13, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't blame me
Blame Louie G, or Zizzy Mane
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 15, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
So 23 years and nine months ago, did Jay Bruce's father say to his wife
“Let’s make a Deal”?
Ok that pun was bad, but not nearly as bad as that song.
by RedsMasochist on Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
good lord, that's crappy.
And he calls him Bruce Almighty in there, too? I vote that that one never be mentioned again either.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
I think we should drown Cairo in the Ohio River
but now by saying so, I guess I’m an accessory should it actually happen
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 15, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Jay Bruce walkup music
Maybe Louie G is The Deal, but Jay Bruce has his own song now!
I honestly wonder how Brandon Phillips feels about this
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 15, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
re: rolen
100% agreed. i mentioned this at lunch yesterday and everyone had a forehead-slapping moment like it was the most obvious thing in the world. but nope—rolen bats 5th and that’s the only spot he will succeed per dusty.
Running out to frontyard laughing! -Fat Vegas Alan
I'm glad we have such a great manager.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
But remember, The Dusty isn't a bad enough manager to hurt us
Or so I’m told
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
just so I know, we're starting this again AFTER a win and after evil Dusty's line-up produced 6 runs
corrected
just so I know, we’re starting this again AFTER a win and after evil Dusty’s line-up Scott Rolen produced 6 runs
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
but but but
if he bats cleanup, our cleanup hitter won’t have 2 bunts in a game!!
can’t have that, that’s no lineup construction. that’s front running.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
ugh
did you hear just after the game ended when tHom said something along the lines of “the most crucial part of this win was the clean-up hitter laying down 2 bunts”? i was thiiiiiiiiis close to getting out of bed and coming here to complain. what a bag.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 13, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
the upside-down world of Dustyland
has me thinking that maybe, just maybe, Stubbs will hit 20 homers from the leadoff spot while Bip (that’s what I’m calling him until he hits like a cleanup hitter) leads our team in bunts.
Precedent? Pssshaw. Who needs history to tell Dusty how to manage?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 13, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
me too
but not batting cleanup.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Apr 13, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Cleanup hitters bunting is awesome!
b/c who doesn’t love guys giving the other team free outs from the middle of the lineup?
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well....
Despite the obviousness of Phillips not being an appropriate 4th hitter.
I do think that every man in your line-up should be able to but down a bunt.
by Eastwindquinn on Apr 13, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I respectfully disagree
Certain guys in a lineup have zero business ever attempting to bunt. On the Reds, I think these guys should never bunt:
Phillips
Rolen
Votto
Bruce
Gomes
Anyone else, sure, lay one down (or at least attempt to)
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 15, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, the Reds are on pace for 93 wins!!!!!
We’re going to the World Serious!!!!!!
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That's my favorite Serious!
(sorry, Yahoo)
"The Asian language is very different than ares." -- Justin007000
What's our pyt?
How many wins should we have?
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
somebody missed the joke
It’s 7 games. This shit doesn’t matter.
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I'm sorry, I was trying to be funny by asking about our pyt with a small sample size
So I guess we both missed the joke? Or maybe just me
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 15, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Juan Castro continues to wow the NL
After starting for the Dodgers for a spell in ‘09, Castro was a last-minute insert into Philly’s lineup yesterday when Jimmy Rollins pulled his calf in warmups. Castro had an RBI double. It’s amazing enough that he continues to hang around, but what’s really surprising is that good teams seek him out.
who's gonna get more ABs this year?
Cairo or Castro?
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He's gotta get one first
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It ought to be a fun race
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Apr 13, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
he is still tricking people into paying him to play baseball?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Apr 13, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Manos de oros, baby
Castro helps teams win, just not the Reds
by Highlifeman21 on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The best part of this game for me
was that the young studs (Stubbs, Votto, Bruce) looked like they were going up to get a hit, not to knock the ball out of the park. I thought they all looked a little more patient tonight. I guess that’s what getting production from the vets will do for you.
yay we won!
good road win—hopefully there are many more.
what i liked – small ball and the use of the running game. we won thanks to the longball, but votto stole, nix was in on a hit and run and he also tried to steal home(!), BP bunted twice(!??)… i want to see more of that.
what i didn’t like – nix getting the start again. this is a direct result of dusty trying to preserve dickerson and i hate that.
Running out to frontyard laughing! -Fat Vegas Alan
Yeah, I can understand wanting to preserve Dickerson to an extent, given his big injury history
OTOH, there are a motherload of LFers at AAA that could come up and play if Dickerson was out for an extended period, so just let him play until he falls apart. Who knows, maybe he wouldn’t. Also, Nix is such a downgrade that it’s not worth it regardless.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
you want to split the gas money to drive Nix down to Louisville? Mexico?
/fix’d
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to the genius who keeps on adding extra “y’s” to people’s names.
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