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  • The Fay thinks Chapman's sore back will end up being his ticket to the minors
    It's probably the best thing for him, IMO. Most interesting though is that Fay thinks Travis Wood and Justin Lehr are now "co-favorites" for the 5th rotation spot, with Mike Leake just behind them. I'm really at a loss for words regarding the total lack of respect for Matt Maloney. If he doesn't begin the season in the Reds rotation, I really hope he is traded to a team where he can show what he's worth.

  • Chapmania, meet Chapprehension
    Steve Mancuso at Seeing Reds was behind home plate when Aroldis Chapman came up lame on Monday and he got some great pics.  After seeing these and reading the Game 2 post this morning, I'm getting really excited about the season coming up.  Opening Day is less than 2 weeks away!

  • Joe Pawlikowski at FanGraphs looks at the current talent on the Reds roster
    and he seems pretty impressed with what he sees:  "The 2010 Reds could be an exciting team. They feature a number of young, promising players who, if they move closer to their potentials in 2010, could provide the team with a much needed boost. A number of quality veterans fill the lineup and rotation as well. The combination should have fans in Cincinnati excited. The NL Central could be theirs if a few things break that way."

  • The Perpetual Post previews the NL Central
    Here's what Howard Megdal has to say about the Reds:

    "It’s kind of hard to see why the Reds finished just 78-84 last year. The lineup includes the highly underrated Joey Votto, the terrific offensive and defensive second baseman Brandon Phillips, a young, impressive Jay Bruce in right, and… well, that’s why they finished 78-84. But all three of the aforementioned are back, and so is Jonny Gomes, with Orlando Cabrera and Scott Rolen, though shopworn, likely upgrades over Paul Janish and Adam Rosales in 2009 (59 and 64 OPS+, respectively). The bullpen is terrific, while the starters include Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo, who won’t likely surprise, and Johnny Cueto and Homer Bailey, two young pitchers who just might. Add in the talented Aroldis Chapman, and 90 wins and an NL central title seems within reach."

  • Sheldon checks his inbox
    "Is it really the right thing to leave Brandon Phillips in the four-hole in the lineup? Isn't he more of a No. 2 guy in reality? -- @BaronBoss, via Twitter
    I get this question a lot, too. Phillips isn't the stereotypical cleanup hitter, but he's the best choice the Reds have. He can hit for power and drive in runs and can hit both righties and lefties. He had 98 RBIs last season and 94 RBIs and 30 homers in 2008. Dusty Baker also made a great point earlier in camp that hitting Phillips fourth ahead of Scott Rolen could mean better pitches for Rolen since Phillips has good speed. Phillips' style of hitting doesn't lend as well to the No. 2 spot, nor did the 21 double plays he grounded into last season."


    BP isn't really suited to either the 2nd or 4th spot. The DPs make him a bad fit at #2, and contrary to what Sheldon says, he doesn't hit for power (career SLG of .430) or hit righties well enough (career .305 wOBA against) to hold down the clean-up spot. Don't get me wrong, BP is a helluva ballplayer, but that comes mostly from his fantastic defense. His bat is ok, but much better suited for lower in the order.

  • Dave Allen at FanGraphs says the Reds flyball rotation is really ill-suited for GABP
    Aaron Harang and Micah Owings are extreme flyball pitchers, and Bronson Arroyo and Johnny Cueto have above-average flyball rates. The Reds have done a good job by matching these guys with great defensive outfielders like Stubbs, Bruce, and Dickerson, but GABP gives up 12% more homers than average and these outfielders aren't THAT good.

  • MetsBlog is again banging the drum for a Reds pitcher
    This time he's latched on to the already-debunked rumor that the Reds are interested in Gary Matthews Jr. I have an idea: let's trade Bronson Arroyo and Paul Janish for Jose Reyes, Matthews, and Carlos Beltran. Reyes and Beltran are injured! The Mets need a pitcher! It's win-win!

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mets fans seem to have caught the cubs fan disease

quick – someone tell them the reds finished with a better record than they did last year…

by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Go easy on Mets blogs

If your team was so clearly hopeless you’d be grasping at straws too.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Mar 24, 2010 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've definitely seen some straw grasping around here

And Mets fans are kinda like Yanks fans insofar as they think every other team will just give up their good players in return for crap

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by nycredsfan on Mar 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope Walt makes that deal right away!

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by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it may be unpopular around here

but I’d rank the 5th spot (minus Aroldis) as Leake, Wood, Maloney…………………then Lehr. Even though it is a rare occurance for a guy to jump straight from college, I think Leake can pitch in the majors right now. I have no evidence to support this because there is none, but that’s just what I think.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Sure he could,

But would that be the best thing for him? To me you’d only do that if you had no other options

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

by nycredsfan on Mar 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Right

I’m not convinced that Leake couldn’t handle it, but with Maloney in the picture, I’d rather give Leake some experience in the minors and let Maloney sink or swim with the 5th spot. Don’t rush him unless it’s your only option, because any time Leake spends developing can only help him, especially not having done it before.

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 24, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I buy the reasoning.

All that I’m saying is that right now, already, Leake and Wood are both better than Maloney. I think Maloney is a AAAA guy. But, I understand that for the sake of proper development you don’t risk sacrificing confidence when you have cannon-fodder like Maloney already in place.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What evidence do we have that Maloney is a AAAA guy

he hasn’t had a chance at the MLB level.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay 2 issues

40 innings is “his chance”?

In three starts in June he had 1 good start, 1 mediocre start and 1 bad start. He threw 17.2 innings, with an ERA of 6.11.

After his late season call up he had 1 bad start and 3 good starts. He threw 23 innings over his final 4 starts, and kept an ERA of 3.91.

So let me make sure I have my facts straights. A 40 innings is a fair chance. B, 4 good starts, 2 bad starts, and a mediocre start constitutes “having his ass handed to him and his teeth kicked in”.

Definitely a good argument.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 25, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

After sifting thru Maloney's game logs...

I can report the following information:

He faced 7 teams. He notched decisions in 6 of those 7 starts. Wins vs Houston and Florida. Losses vs Colorado, Dodgers, Atlanta, Kansas City. In his ND vs the Cubs, he pitched a quality start (2 solo HR in 6 IP).

His average game score of those 7 starts was 49. His best game score was a 61 against Houston. His lowest game score was a 36 against Atlanta. Of his 7 starts, only 2 QS. In 2 of those non QS starts, he only went 5.0 IP, and gave up 2 and 1 ER respectively. 7 GS, 40 2/3 IP = just slightly over 5 2/3 per start, which taxes our surprisingly stellar bullpen.

So, of his 7 starts, I’d definitely argue that only 3 were “good” (9/25 @ Houston, 9/8 @ Colorado, 6/6 vs Cubs). Of the other 4, 2 were piss poor (8/29 vs Dodgers, 6/18 vs Atlanta), 1 had a chance to be “good” (9/17 vs Florida) but he just didn’t go deep enough, and the other start was really close to being piss poor (6/12 @ Kansas City). When you’re almost piss poor against Kansas City, what does that tell you?

And then there’s his WHIP. 1.25, which is nothing to write home to mom about. He didn’t walk that many guys, but didn’t miss bats, and only struck out 28 in his 40 2/3 IP, which for a guy that struck out plenty in the minors certainly didn’t do so against MLB hitters.

I just don’t see consistency with Maloney, but if he’s only a 5th SP, why not him, right? If he has to be anything more than a 5th SP, then we have problems.

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 25, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I agree with you

As soon as I started reading your post, the thought that entered my mind is “that sounds like a 5th starter to me”. But also, I think we have a known commodity in Maloney, so the only reasonable explanation for using someone other than him in that spot is that they’re confident that Wood or Leake will be better than Maloney is.

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 25, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maloney is nothing better than a 5th SP for a bad team

If and when the Reds are a better team, then he’s nothing more than an emergency starter.

I’d rather see Leake than Maloney, but if we want to kick the tires on Maloney for a couple starts in April and May, why not, as long as he’s at least .500 for those starts.

I just wish Chapman wasn’t an awkward foreigner and needed cultural acclimation, and Volquez wasn’t injured, or else all of this 5th SP nonsense would be a moot point.

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 26, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most teams fifth starters are bad

And you have no major league evidence to say he is bad. He could be league average or a touch better. According to a fangraphs article teams “5th starters” only had an ERA+ of 74 in 2009. Plus I mean chances are at least one from the group of Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, and Bailey will miss significant time due to an injury, so really having 7 or 8 MLB ready starting pitchers is important. I think Maloney should open in the MLB rotation, but even if he doesn’t I’m guessing he will have his opportunity at some point this season.

The opening day 25 man roster is just that. It can change before game 2 if there is an injury.

Also Chapman shouldn’t start in the minors simply because he is an “awkward foreigner who needs cultural acclimation”, he should start in the minors because he still needs to work on his command and secondary pitches, plus 5 or 6 spring training appearances aren’t enough to deem him ready. The Reds have a lot of money riding on him, no reason to stunt his development by rushing him.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 26, 2010 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also remember that Maloney had a blister

which effected his last three starts. He was cruising against Atlanta, but left after 5 innings due to his blister.

He fits the bill of an idealized (I use the term idealized because the average “5th starter” in 2009 had an ERA+ of 74) 5th starter. He seems capable of routinely going 5 innings, and generally not putting the team in a position to lose.

I just think based on his minor league numbers he deserves and extended look in Cincinnati, because lets face it, 2009 was too small of a sample size, especially considering he did not pull a Phil Dumatrait.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 25, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize Maloney's married right?

He’s never gonna love you the way you love him.

bazinga!

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by Slyde on Mar 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

then we did he sneak off to Argentina with me?

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 25, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

you must be his

soul mate.

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by bbjones on Mar 26, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

or if we're talking Argentina...

Maybe his soul maté.
Good stuff.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 26, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for getting it

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 26, 2010 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maloney had a blister, and dougdirt swears up and down that the reason Bailey sucked something awful in 2006 and 2007 is b/c of some mysterious hurt groin

Justin, you told me Maloney’s last 3 starts were of the combined sub 4 ERA variety, so I’m not sure why you’d bring up some blister? Sub 4 ERA is good stuff, but you’re saying it could have been better b/c he had a blister?

As for bringing Phil Dumatrait into this argument, sound the failhorn. Just b/c you think Maloney can be or is better than Phil Dumatrait doesn’t mean we should give him an extended look, ya know? That’s like saying Khrushchev was an ok dude b/c he wasn’t Stalin. We should give Maloney an extended look for 5th SP b/c we have a couple guys that are virtually similar, and Maloney’s part of that group.

I’m all for giving Maloney an extended look, but it’s gotta be for the right reason(s).

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 26, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying Maloney coulda gone deeper into games

without the blister. Dusty was very hesitant to use Maloney for fear that his blister would tear.

I brought up Dumatrait simply to argue that Maloney did not prove he couldn’t pitch in the big leagues. I didn’t simply say that Maloney was better than Dumatrait ergo he should be a big league starter, rather than I said, he didn’t prove he shouldn’t be a big leaguer.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 26, 2010 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

I have no evidence to back up my feelings, I just think Leake has that something and would be fine in the fifth spot to start the season.

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by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie Scrabbles

I hate that dude, he’s a thief.

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

good

i wouldnt want such an infested deviant as you kissing my ass anyway.

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have unmarked postage in your handwriting that claims otherwise

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have nothing

but a handful of lies and a pantful of critters.

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are you saying he has crabs? That's harsh.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 24, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he started it!

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The family Pthiridae is nothing to joke about.

Pthirids… That sounds so much cooler than crabs or pubic lice?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 24, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's totally untrue

I shave, therefore I am.

/Now who grossed WHO out, Chuck?

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by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

jeez lah-weeze

you win

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm totally kidding

I have a cute little landing strip thing going on.

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by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, if your options are Kip Wells, Justin Lehr, Matt Maloney & Mike Leake, why the Hell not Mike Leake?

Leake probably has the best control of any of these jamokes. Kip Wells is AAA roster fodder, and a stop gap until Volquez is healthy, or they decide to start Chapman’s clock. Lehr is fucking garbage. Absolutely fucking worthless. Matt Maloney is a AAAA guy (sorry Justin), and he’s a better insurance policy than Kip Wells.

So, if you put a gun to my head right now, I’d rank our 5th SP options as follows:

Leake
Wells
Maloney

fuck Lehr, he’s worthless. It’s like Chris Michalak all over again.

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I’d rather have one of the trio of Woode, Leake, or Maloney to start off at #5. Keep Lehr at AAA and bring him up for emergency starts/ doubleheaders.

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by btcoop71 on Mar 24, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

That wouldn’t be a reasonable trade. Not if we had to give up Janish!

To be fair…it was Joel Sherman and Mike Francesca who said the Reds might be interested in trading pitching for Matthews. Yeah, they’re idiots. But they’re idiots with access, so you can’t blame fans for believing them.

And does the Fay really believe Chapman will be in Cincinnati before May 1? That doesn’t seem reasonable to me. If the Reds really prefer to start him in the minors, one month doesn’t seem long enough.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Here, folks, is where we learn to muddle the truth.

This Mets blogger writes:

but, the Mets clearly still need some sort of reliable starting pitcher to be added to this rotation, and so if there is a way to still get arroyo or harang, i hope Omar Minaya is working on it…

I think the verb in this sentence that matters is HOPE.

Hell, I hope for world peace.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the guy has been banging this drum for months

he’s proposed many scenarios wherein the Mets get either Harang or Arroyo or Phillips or 2 of the 3 or all 3. he may have used the word “hope” in this specific post, but i think it is more than just wishful thinking for this guy.

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like he has the actors

all he needs now is to write the play.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

marty also seems to think maloney isn't going to be the guy.

on his hot stove wank session he only talked about wood and lehr.

i think dusty is keeping it pretty close to the vest. maloney is clearly the best option even though he hasn’t pitched his way to the top. if performance were any indication of who makes the team, he’s in trouble (but so are harang and arroyo), so i’m hoping the media guys are basing their opinion off that.

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

While I don't think Lehr is the best option

He’s been pitching the best of the bunch with MLB experience (Lehr, Maloney, Owings, Wells, Lincoln). The comparison to Steve Parris could be apt. You might get a half season of respectable pitching out of Lehr.

I do think Maloney should settle down and be a cut above Owings, especially given that Owings’ batted ball profile is pretty ill-suited for starting pitching at GABP.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 24, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are asking a guy to throw 90 pitches, right?

Keep most of them in play, all of them in the park.
Seems like we shouldn’t have a headache trying to find that guy.
Who’s most likely to succeed at that? And do we need a lefty in our rotation?

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the Land of Reciprocity ...

is there STILL somebody out there who thinks the DH is stupid?

Teh Fay quotes DB:

"It would be easier on Chapman if he was in the American League and never had to hit and run the bases."

Maybe we ought to trade him, huh?

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Player's Manager Eh?

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

that was a huge fail

that was supposed to be a block quote and a link.

"Anything that happens, you come and tell me with feeling like you’re a wimp or something.

Dusty on telling Chapman to speak with feelings of being a wimp.

Fay’d!

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

pay me 30 million buckaroo bonzais

and I will go on national TV and admit to being a wimp!

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The last part of that quote made me chuckle a little
"I told him you’re no longer where you were," Baker said. "Anything that happens, you come and tell me with feeling like you’re a wimp or something. I didn’t know wimp in Spanish but I knew another word."

I just imagined Dusty sautering over to Mario Soto and asking him, “Como se dice pussy en espanol?”

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That should be "sauntering"

See what happens when you read teh Fayblog? Typos are contagious.

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

biscocho

in case you were wondering

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by The Crushinator on Mar 24, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

With soccer season about to start

This is going to come in very handy. Thanks!

Hey Montero! Hey Biscocho!

by Brendanukkah on Mar 25, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this

Sounders/Union tonight. Who ya got?

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 25, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be cheering for the Union too

But no way do the Sounders home opener to a team of draft picks. But I hope Drew Carey cries himself to sleep after they lose 4-0, but no way do the Sounders lose their home opener to a team of draft picks.

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 25, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love a repeat of last season

Where the expansion team wins the opening game, and the team they beat goes on to have the worst record in the league. The folks at Sounder At Heart are talking about how they’re favorites for a treble this year. If they win one trophy, I will be astounded.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 25, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

i predict a repeat at last season

a full season of games and i’ll be oblivious to the outcome of any of them.

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Mar 25, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it won't happen like last season because there's a new team

Although a labor stoppage was narrowly averted, so there will actually be a full season of games. And for the first time, a truly balanced schedule where each team plays every other team twice, home and away. Take note, baseball.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 25, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

How are they favorites for anything?

I think they’re a playoff team for sure with Ljungberg and Montero, and Keller in goal, and they could win the West because that conference is weak as shit this year, but they have to go through the powers in the East to do it. Not happening.

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 25, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here, but who in the West is better than them other than RSL?

LA isn’t without Becks. Houston isn’t after losing Clark and Holden. San Jose, Colorado, and Chivas are all shit, and Dallas overachieved last year. The East could get 6 teams into the playoffs this year.

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 25, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, though if RSL ever learns to win on the road, they could be good

The East isn’t terribly strong either though, outside of Columbus and Chicago. There’ll be a bunch of solid, middle of the road teams.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 25, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was hilarious

Running out to frontyard laughing! -Fat Vegas Alan

by GrooveLeg on Mar 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

my only question is

why did justin have a random pic of Hitler on his clipboard?

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was looking for the "Frankfurt School of History"

and this picture came up.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Frankfurt School of History?

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not funny

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too soon?

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't find Hitler inherently funny

Every time he’s used for the sake of irony, in some small way it trivializes the horrible things he did. Though I found the Hilter video posted here a while back very funny. I think there’s a meaningful difference, I just have to think about what it is.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 24, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that hitler video

I found it funny on surface only. I think somebody did a second one, though, and it missed the mark by a mile.

It isn’t like the guy ever got cream pie in his face.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta ask.

What’s the difference between funny ‘on surface only’ and really funny all the way down below the surface?

"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn,

green’d and I even fucked the joke up.
That should say:
Skin cancer is funny but pancreatic cancer is fucking hilarious.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 'fucked up" version is better.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Landon would disagree....

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

...if he were still alive

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

...Or if he were a reanimated corpse

Though then he’d likely just mumble, “Brains” over and over as opposed to protesting the lack of humor in pancreatic cancer.

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the topic was funny, was all I meant.

at the time, it was about a bad Reds pitching staff.
You may be asking me to overanalyze a little more than is necessary.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were at home, I would totally post an animated gif of Hitler dancing with a kitty

FVA, can ya help a brutha out?

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great. Now 'KRP is mad at me.

funny animated gif

"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, looks like TinyPic is mad at you

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm. I got it on my end.

Ha! Look at him go! Shake it, Kitty!

"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the few immutable laws of the universe

Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

/Curtis'd?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 24, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i have this deleted?

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO do-overs in RR baseball.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'm not in a deletin' mood today

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

If I do that, then you didn’t learn anything. Also, I think it’s pretty funny

"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

by BK on Mar 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maloney is scheduled to throw 65 pitches in a minor league game.

Fay Link.

It seems odd to send a guy who is competing for a spot in the rotation to pitch a minor league game. Wouldn’t it make more sense to have Maloney pitch the big league game and Bailey pitch the minor league game.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldnt think so.

They’re counting on Bailey a lot more than any of the guys in the running for the number five slot. It makes more sense to me to get him as much time against major league quality hitters than Maloney.

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

but Bailey is also now just "getting his work in" and building up his arm strength

He can have an ERA of 28 or 2.8 and he will be is going to start in Cincinnati on April 9th. Maloney is still auditioning.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the other teams tell the Reds in advance who's on the field?

These A and B games seem like a case of “who wants to ride the bus today?”

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin simply cannot accept that Maloney

is not the second coming of Tom Glavine. He’s is, in fact, the second coming of “you-remember-that-guy….what’s-his-name?”

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

what's his name?

Why … it’s one of the O’Toole brothers.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know that Jim is a friend of mine

or is this just random?

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim was an interesting pitcher

Easily one of the most intriguing of the most exciting baseball team ever.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

to answer ... it was about Denny

yes it was random.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't being pissy.

Just curious.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to hear about that team

A most fascinating pennant run, that 61 team.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did a little backtracking

and the way that team was put together was either

a. sheer genius
b. total luck

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I followed that team intensly as a kid.

It was the team that really got me addicted to the Reds

Potential doesn't win games.

by Madville on Mar 24, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim's got a story or two, that's for sure.

His grandson and my son are thick as thieves.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Eric Milton

And trying not to stab a number 2 pencil through my eye in order to stop thinking about him.

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you would need Ken's avatar.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Glavine statements were hyperbole

but Maloney was able to strike out a high number of minor league batters while maintaining a low walk rate. That is a recipe for success, and I feel like too many people are willing to throw him away because he doesn’t throw hard. When he first came to Cincinnati he had limited AA time, and the argument was he dominated low minor league baseball because he was more polished than his opposition. Yet he still continued to strike out batters at a clip of 8.4/9IP, and had a K/BB of 4.06.

Wouldn’t the Reds be foolish to not make sure he can’t convert that success to the big leagues?

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just giving you shit, man.

But I don’t hold his abilities in high regard.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we should dump Maloney for nothing

but I’m not optimistic that he’s anything more than an emergency 5th starter in the big leagues. Pitchers with good location can dominate in AAA and get jacked around in the bigs if they don’t have the stuff to beat players. Honestly, I don’t know a lot about his stuff, but I get the impression it’s mediocre.

And if this were 3 years ago, I’d be adamant that Maloney make the staff, but I’m not upset by Lehr making 5 starts and then being replaced by Wood or Chapman or Leake in June. Sure, I’d prefer it to be Maloney than Lehr, but it’s only 5 starts.

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by Slyde on Mar 24, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or ... or ... or ....

The Reds could still make a trade. Now, we’ve not discussed getting a pitcher in trade and it doesn’t seem on the table. Just sayin’.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt be too upset to see Lehr start over Maloney

i mean, it’s just the 5th starter spot and it’s likely just 5 starts. but it seems clear to me that Maloney is not only a better pitcher right now than Lehr, but he could be a good mid-rotation starter. i just dont see the logic behind not giving him a chance.

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 24, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

b/c striking out minor league batters automatically translates to success @ striking out major league batters

the walk rate is a good thing, but getting minor league hitters out is apples to oranges to getting out major league hitters

Throw Maloney against the wall, see if he sticks, but as long as Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Bailey, Volquez and Chapman remain in the organization, Maloney will be one of the lower guys on the totem pole

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 25, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I humbly nominate a new nickname for Aroldis at this point?

Iron Eagle…..he’s our Chappy.

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I second the nomination

(I don’t plan to vote yes on it but it deserves to be seconded, all the same.)

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

i did “saw” it.

just now on the internetz

by 'tHan on Mar 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here in the discussion phase

of the process, the nomination of “Iron Eagle” doesn’t seem to be faring too well, ladies and gentlemen. We’ll be back for a final vote on this after these commercial messages.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

suggestion

i say we stop trying to create nicknames and just let them happen in due time.

House Plant’d

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Mar 25, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Robert McNamara'd

"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 25, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i been Ayn Randed

nearly branded a communist cuz I’m left-handed…

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Mar 25, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like forced nicknames

How BlowMeBoy…you guys like that one?

Potential doesn't win games.

by Madville on Mar 25, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again,

Why would we want everyone outside of the state of Kentucky to hate him?

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

like we liked Corey Patterson.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny

After Willy Taveras I don’t feel the same about Corey Patterson anymore. I mean, at least the guy played good defense and seemed like he was trying hard.

Don't take anything I say too seriously, I sure don't.

by RedsMasochist on Mar 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have liked Corey if he could have played better.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We all root for a bunch of uniforms, really.

I joke a lot, but I try not to think of any personal animosity for any particular player.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milton Bradley could maybe alter that perception.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Rex ever had trouble getting to 2B

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe 'cause he kept telling all the girls

he was Kenny Walker.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

so right

the discussion phase is now over and “Iron Eagle” is soundly defeated.

Next item up on the agenda is the apparent muddled mix of Reds baseball and the Charlotte expansion entry into the NBA.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And John Wall

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither does man love for Rex Chapman.

See how I set you up there! Boom! Cha-Cha!

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey btcoop71

have you noticed jch’s new avatar? I can send you the image if you’d like!

by 'tHan on Mar 24, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

bwahaha

Pitino has his legs crossed like a lady…..

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had a caption for the picture, it would be....

“Now entering the room, Karen Sypher….”

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 24, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He emailed it to me last night

And I fell in love with it immediately. Also, that is one pale Italian man for it being the middle of summer.

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hornets? Bullets?

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd!

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what would be wrong with ....

… Androidis, the Cuban Makeshift Sailing Vessel With Little Elian Gonzalez and His Uncle Aboard?

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...not to shit on a perfectly lovely idea

but the Iron Eagle is a popular Aryan symbol. Not a good connotation for this fine young gentleman.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 24, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever, honky

"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's settled then

Honky it is. Well done!

by Brian B on Mar 24, 2010 7:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

whatever happened to Mologna?

I thought that was the best nickname in years.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Mar 24, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

overlook'd

"always look on the unbucket side of life"

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 25, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have patience, keep Maloney

I agree that the Reds should stay with Maloney as their 5th starter to open the season. Every team needs a southpaw starter on their pitching staff, may be at least until Chapman is ready. We are still not sure if Bailey will mature into his role and be a steady starter.

by Richard L on Mar 24, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

dunno

all the evidence I read claims Homer is finally the real deal.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree

I think especially with a lot of the attention off him (due to the setbacks/Chapmania) he’s ready for the rotation. I’m still conflicted between Maloney and Lehr. Maloney is probably the better choice in the long-run, but I still like Lehr because of his goofy story.

Miguel Cairo for infield utility!

by chazzilla on Mar 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing about Phillips bugs me.
BP isn’t really suited to either the 2nd or 4th spot. The DPs make him a bad fit at #2, and contrary to what Sheldon says, he doesn’t hit for power (career SLG of .430) or hit righties well enough (career .305 wOBA against) to hold down the clean-up spot. Don’t get me wrong, BP is a helluva ballplayer, but that comes mostly from his fantastic defense. His bat is ok, but much better suited for lower in the order.

This and Sheldon’s bit. For one, I wonder if he’d change his approach and stop swinging out of his shoes at #2 instead of #4, resulting in perhaps more line drives instead of roll-overs or pop ups. Even if that’s not true, why isn’t it obvious to everyone that BP’s power is moderate at best? Also, it irks me that RBI still get so much discussion in mainstream media. That just means there were runners on base when they got the hit, right? How much does “clutch” really matter?

by jsl413 on Mar 24, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

clutch hasnt mattered much for BP as a cleanup hitter

because Dusty has been loading the leadoff and 2 spots with extremely substandard OBP guys the past couple years.

it would be nice to see BP hit with some runners on the basepaths not named Votto.

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Mar 25, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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