Red Reporter NCAA Tournament Knockout Challenge
This post is meant as a companion to Caleb's excellent Redreporter Bracket Challenge. If you haven't set up your brackets yet, go to his diary fanpost and check it out.
Instead of doing a bracket, this pool will rely on the cutthroat KNOCKOUT method, first engineered by Thaddeus Hornspackle during the Schenectady Foot Ball Championships in 1933. You pick one team every day, and that team must win or else you do not advance. And you can not pick that team again for the rest of the tournament. So if you think Northern Iowa will face Sam Houston State in the final game, you should probably save those teams for later. Otherwise you could find yourself in the final four with no teams left to choose from, and you lose.
The last person standing wins. Lots of pride is at stake, but no money. That's what office pools are for! You must make a pick every day, before your team's game starts. I'll keep up with the contestants every day and who they've selected, and all the action will take place in this thread.
So if you want to play, announce your intentions here and submit a team name tomorrow. That's it. Let's have fun!
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In, i think
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
did i make the rules clear?
someone has suggested i didnt
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Do we have to list the mascot and full name of the school?
THIS IS TOO HARD
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 17, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just the school colors of each participating college.
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
You're taking Kansas State?
Wow.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Thursday pick
I choose the Wildcats of Kansas State at Manhattan University.
It's like he knew that was your pick!
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I'll take Manhattan.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
actually it's not far from Joliet
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Too late.
The Muppets already did.
by the finest muffins on Mar 17, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well done.
/Green’d
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 18, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd say FU but they're not going to win tomorrow
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 17, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I am confused ...but as always am willing to play
My Team – Kansas
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
If you pick them now
You can’t pick them later.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Oh...I see...well I have to have a do over...can I boobs, please, can I huh?
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
there are no do-overs in NCAA tournament predicting, Mads ... and you know it.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
I've had 3 mascots
Fruit – Orange(men)
Nut – Buckeye(s)
Fictional Character – Blue Devil(s)
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 17, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of knock-up challenges
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/03/17/danica.mckellar.pregnant.ppl/index.html?hpt=Sbin
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
Congratulations, Mads!
“Me and Mike looked at each other and we could not stop the tears,” she says. “We are so happy.”
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 17, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is what happens when you tell a girl your penis size using prime numbers.
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
They don't play tomorrow, jackass
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 17, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in
Is there a time you have to get the pick in (i.e. before that day’s first game) or just prior to your pick tipping off?
just prior to your game tipping off
i was trying to think if there’d be an advantage to waiting until the last slate of games, but i dont think there is. so just, before your team plays
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I think there could be an advantage.
But it would present itself on only very particular scenarios.
, bitches!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Team A upsets Team B in an early game.
Later that day Team E is a heavy favorite to beat Team F and advance to the next round to play the Team A.
So if you wait to make your pick you might get to avoid picking Team E in order to save Team E for the next round when you know that they’ll again be heavy favorites.
, bitches!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 17, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess i can see that
but if someone does too much gamesmanship like that, they could just as easily end up thinking their way out of contention. we’ll stick with before the game. if you want to try out your theory and pick late games, go for it, but you might end up excluding a lot of good early picks.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Okay
I’ve made my selection for Thursday’s game:
I’ll take West Virginia.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
When I said West Virginia, I meant....
New Mexico. That’s who I’m taking. Yes.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
those guys are not the same team, Crolfer
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
So, if I pick
… hey, I ain’t saying until tomorrow.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
what if I mess up and ... say
name a team that isn’t actually IN the tournament?
I mean, they can’t lose. So if I pick my old alma madre, Evansville …
that would be all right, wouldn’t it?
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
yeah, that would be perfectly fine
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
by boobs on Mar 17, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
List of schools to maybe send my kids:
1. Evansville
, bitches!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
NO chance we let your kid in.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Northern Iowa, please
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I've changed my mind!
I want New Mexico.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
And Clemson on Friday
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Whoops
I was thinking of Purdue, not Missouri. I respectfully retract my Clemson pick.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I'll take X Friday instead
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Did he die in Memphis?
Cuz that’d be cool.
, bitches!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I may have made the exact same comment when I heard the news
You and me? We’re unoriginal assholes.
by Brendanukkah on Mar 18, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
That was one of my friend's facebook statuses...
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
im going with villanova for thursday
first team to win, giving me hours to feel safe
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Villanova for Thursday
Pittsburgh for Friday
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
I probably won't be around tomorrow
so put me down for Tennessee Saturday if I get that far.
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
I'll pick Villanova for Thursday
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
I'll play
Kansas State for Thursday.
Michigan State for Friday
Give me michegan St for Friday also
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
Don't read this until 930 tonight:
Tennessee
, bitches!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
just for you hombre
Thurs: Ohio
Fri: Xavier
and Micah Owings will hit a pinch hit home run on Saturday
Nice pick!
Of course, now you can’t take the Bobcats when they make the Final Four
scottie reynolds is being punished and not starting
anyone wanna get off the nova bandwagon? not me.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Thursday
would be a Tennessee day.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Picks:
Thur: New Mexico
Fri: Syracuse
by Brian B on Mar 18, 2010 12:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I hope nobody picks the kangaroos
UMKC is no way to go through college, son.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
robert morris is in position to knock out me, cheshirecat, zJiff and slyde right away
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
oooo scary.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
nova ties it up, has the ball with 30 seconds left
one possession. likely a reynolds drive and foul
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I love how invested I became in Robert Morris for twenty minutes this afternoon
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
looks like somebody dodged some major artillery
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
by am i glad I didn't pick Vander vander bilt bilt bilt
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
here's the haps
20 people are in so far, 9 have advanced, 2 are out (Scrabbles, cmick) and the rest haven’t played yet. if you haven’t said so and still want in, you can pick a team from one of the later games, as long as you announce before the game starts. If you’re in and are successful today, don’t forget to make your Friday pick before your game starts tomorrow.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I really thought this said "what a brilliant prick"
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Friday
(The) Ohio State University will advance.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
locked in
Here’s the list of players:
Than (advanced)
Dwire (advanced)
Jacob Brumfield (advanced)
boobs (advanced)
chesirecat (advanced)
bengalred (advanced)
ewok (advanced)
red menace (advanced)
slyde (advanced)
ZJiff (advanced)
Madville (pending)
highlifeman (pending)
crolfer (pending)
JCH (pending)
Alan (pending)
JohnU (pending)
Brian B (pending)
andromache (pending)
BK (out)
cmick (out)
Charlie scrabbles (out)
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I'm thinking about FSU on Friday.

"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 19, 2010 12:51 AM EDT reply actions
K. Here's what we've got going into Day 2
Than (Kansas State): Duke
Jacob Brumfield (Butler): Xavier
chesirecat (Villanova): Pittsburgh
bengalred (Kansas State): Michigan State
ewok (Ohio): Xavier
red menace (BYU): Wisconsin
Madville (Kansas): Michigan State
highlifeman (Kansas): Duke
JCH (New Mexico): Xavier
Alan (Tennessee): Florida State
JohnU (Tennessee): Ohio State
Brian B (New Mexico): Syracuse
Dwire (Kansas State): ??
boobs (Villanova): ??
slyde (Villanova): ??
ZJiff (Villanova): ??
crolfer (New Mexico): ??
andromache (New Mexico): ??
BK (Georgetown)
cmick (Vanderbilt)
Charlie scrabbles (Richmond)
So, I need picks from Dwire, me, slyde, ZJiff, Crolfer and Andromache. 21 total players, 18 are left. Reply to this for your Friday picks before your team’s game, if you’re not already down for one.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Uhh.. you're gonna need that pick next week.
Or even the week after that.
"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 19, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Boobs, why do you hate winning the Red Reporter NCAA Tournament Knockout Challenge?
"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
thats why ive come in second in the bereavement pool
twice
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Because you'd never want to be accused of bad form in a contest about the elderly and infirm.
"You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Fred Quimby's name at the beginning."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I reiterate
Give me Michigan St for Friday
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
I'ma gonna take Pittsburgh today
and I don’t think I’ll be around tomorrow, so just in case I survive today, I’ll take Tennessee tomorrow.
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Today, Friday the 19th, I take Wisconsin.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Lotta Big 10 love goin' on here
For those of us who use blinders to get through life, I suppose.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
I sense a lot of X homerism over there in the QC
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
well, maybe not a "lot of it."
I root for them as well.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
yeah, life tends to take some bad hops, don't it?
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Penguins would probably take that series.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Weekend picks
Ohio, again, on Saturday. (Kansas St if that pick is disallowed)
OSU on Sunday.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
you cant pick a team twice
thats kinda the only rule. also, “you” aren’t technically in the contest
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
we should take a vote
this is a special occasion. and probably a ridiculously unlikely selection.
im picking the lowest seed left in the tourney? let it roll, says i! : )
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Thanks Nova
Assholes
Go fuck yourself, Scottie Reynolds. I hope you fall on something sharp, rusty, and die.
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 21, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Nova was a risky pick
looked like shit Thursday and horrendous the previous 10 games to boot.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
wow
he’s as good at picking NCAA games as he is recommending burgers!
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Saturday
Pittsburgh over Xavier
Sunday
It depends on a late game
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Of course, correct on Pitt
Villanova for Saturday
and Pitt for Sunday
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
bad omen?
blue devils playing on the Lord’s Day
by jacob brumfield on Mar 20, 2010 1:29 AM EDT reply actions
Day 3
Alan’s pick of Florida State backfired, so we won’t be seeing him in the finals. But there are still 17 folks playing heading into the NCAA Tournament’s second round.
Jacob Brumfield (Butler, Xavier): Baylor
chesirecat (Villanova, Pittsburgh): Tennessee
Ohio Bobcat (Ohio, Xavier): Kansas State
red menace (BYU, Wisconsin): Tennessee
highlifeman (Kansas, Duke): Villanova
JohnU (Tennessee, Ohio State): Villanova
slyde (Villanova, Pittsburgh): Tennessee
andromache (New Mexico, Michigan State): Butler
Than (Kansas State, Duke): ??
bengalred (Kansas State, Michigan State): ??
Madville (Kansas, Michigan State): ??
JCH (New Mexico, Xavier): ??
Brian B (New Mexico, Syracuse): ??
Dwire (Kansas State, Pittsburgh): ??
boobs (Villanova, Ohio State): ??
crolfer (New Mexico, West Virginia): ??
ZJiff (Villanova, Wisconsin): ??
Alan (Tennessee, Florida State)
BK (Georgetown)
cmick (Vanderbilt)
Charlie scrabbles (Richmond)
Still need picks from Than, bengalred, Madville, JCH, Brian B, Dwire, me, crolfer and ZJiff.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I want Tennessee today
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
revised
I want Baylor too.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
you havent exactly been a paradigm of decision-making so far
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Does this really work? Or is it a justin-esque 'paragon' mistake?
(With apologies to justin, who has been doing better.)
IAN! I'm on traain!
actually, its perfectly fine
but my syntax was a little wonky. Should have said he hasn’t been the paradigm of a great decision-maker, considering he’s picked 7 teams so far in 3 days
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
yeah, I was trying to work it out in my head.
It is acceptable. But it certainly wouldn’t be my first choice. :P
IAN! I'm on traain!
i've been using that word wrong ever since sebastian valmont called annette hargrove a 'paradigm of chastity and virtue' in my favorite movie of junior high
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
ok
so it was my favorite movie of high school. along with other classics like gone in 60 seconds
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
cruel intentions came out in 99
GI60S came out in 2000. I graduated in 2001
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
happy birthday
you are nine months and two weeks older than me
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
you were born on the day that tv's davy crockett died!
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
That's what boobs' dad said?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You're assuming boobs was born two weeks late
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 20, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Normal gestational period is 37 to 42 weeks, so he's in the ballpark
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You and the KY legal system agree
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
and if I survive until Sunday, I'll take Wisconsin.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Bad move, trust me
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 20, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
with age comes wisdom
except in jch’s case, of course.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Sunday I'll go for The Ohio State university
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
Michigan State was Friday
today is Saturday. if you want to play, you better claim UK or Wake Forest pronto
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
dwire picks washington
still waiting for brian B, bengalred and madville
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I plead for the do-over.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
That's b/c Scottie Reynolds sucks dick
He went down, not me.
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 21, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
For my Sunday pick, i'm going with Texas A&M
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
I'll take West Virginia on Sunday, please
Sorry, crolf-dawg.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Wait, jch disappoints you, but I'm dead to you!
That seems like a double standard. You could at least tell jch that you’re gong to forget to water him.
IAN! I'm on traain!
cheshirecat is also dead to me.
That’s beside the point though- I mean, hey- we all know jch is already a zombie.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Christ these all seem like possible upsets to me.
I wanna save the Bucks for next week, so… WVU?
(Sorry crolfer, Wisconsin just looked WAY too shaky against Wofford)
We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
day 4
andromache (New Mexico, Michigan State, Butler): West Virginia
chesirecat (Villanova, Pittsburgh, Tennessee): West Virginia
Than (Kansas State, Duke, Baylor): Ohio State
JCH (New Mexico, Xavier, Baylor): West Virginia
ZJiff (Villanova, Wisconsin, Baylor): Texas A&M
crolfer (New Mexico, West Virginia, Tennessee): Wisconsin
Ohio Bobcat (Ohio, Xavier, Kansas State): ??
red menace (BYU, Wisconsin, Tennessee): ??
Dwire (Kansas State, Pittsburgh, Washington): ??
Jacob Brumfield (Butler, Xavier, Baylor): ??
slyde (Villanova, Pittsburgh, Tennessee): ??
bengalred (Kansas State, Michigan State, Tennessee): ??
Brian B (New Mexico, Syracuse, Kansas State): ??
boobs (Villanova, Ohio State, Baylor): ??
Madville (Kansas, Michigan State)
highlifeman (Kansas, Duke, Villanova)
JohnU (Tennessee, Ohio State, Villanova):
Alan (Tennessee, Florida State)
BK (Georgetown)
cmick (Vanderbilt)
Charlie scrabbles (Richmond)
So unless I missed something, OBC, Dwire, red mance, brumfield, slyde, begalred, brian b and me still need to make picks.
Ill start a new thread for next week’s games.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
ill take texas a&m aggies i guess
my dream could end here.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
madville emailed me asking if it was too late to pick UK
after the game was over. i havent responded.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
phew! awesome!
I dodged a bullet there. C’mon Dookies!
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bengalred takes pitt
and brumfield, as he stated before, takes wvu. still waiting for dwire
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
i think its conceivable that red menace could win the whole thing today
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
one shining moment still alive over here
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
do me a favor
leave my name off any future lists. history will show that i was never even involved.
jesus christ
"always look on the unbucket side of life"
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 21, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the last guy who took richmond
was historically fairly significant and even got his face on the money.
So you got that going for you.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
by johnu1 on Mar 21, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what about degree of difficulty
add up the aggregate seeds selected
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
degree of difficulty rewards teams by leaving them with higher seeds left to choose from later
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
which seeds do you mean?

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Ugh- Plant Sciences isn't supposed to be for another 3 hours.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
wah?
I changed my pick to Duke. It says so up above!
This is a traveshamockery!
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boobs, I'm starting to get nervous here.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
here's where we finished
congrats to the nine folks who advance to next weekend. there will be a new post then.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
The only thing that should matter in this pool is that I believe that UK will win it all.
Despite the fact that they are UK.
Potential doesn't win games.
well, yeah ... that is all that matters now.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

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