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  • Fay - Is Dickerson passing Stubbs? 
    Earlier this month Dickerson mouthed off to the press about not getting the chance to compete for the CF job.  But Fay writes that his ST performance since then has spoken much louder.  Dusty Baker's pleased with how Dickerson has reacted to the controversy:  "That’s how you do it:  You play your way into it. You don’t talk your way into it."  Mark Sheldon adds that Stubbs needs to get going soon.  Dusty says that that he's not worried but "[Stubbs] needs to get going here pretty soon....  I'd like to see him make some more contact because he's struck out a lot, and try a couple of bunts."  RL Nation sums up my thoughts - basing the decision on a couple dozen exhibition games is silly.
  • Stubbs responded yesterday with a double and a triple.  Trent notes that in going 2 for 3, Stubbs, who describes himself as a slow starter, raised his average from .100 to .174.  If he keeps that up, he'll almost be hitting .400 in three days!  "I told you give me time," Stubbs said with a laugh.  Stubbs, Jay Bruce, and other bats led the Reds to a 13-7 win over Arizona.  Johnny Cueto pitched out of jams, inducing a couple of DPs in allowing two runs (earned, but caused by Drew Stubbs losing a double in the sun) in 3 2/3.  Phillipe Valiquette hit two batters in giving up three runs in an inning.  I'm guessing he's one of the Reds that will be cut this week.  
  • Today the Reds have a split squad, and Stubbs and Dickerson will lead off and play center in the two games.  Some Cuban prospect will be starting his first game in the afternoon against Milwaukee.  The other squad will play Cleveland in the evening.  All proceeds from the evening game will go to the local YMCA.
  • SI Vault 5.25.87 - These Are Red Letter Days
    Speaking of CF, I was fooling around in the SI Vault and found this 1987 Ralph Wiley article on Eric Davis.  Davis was coming off a great '86 season but really burst on the national scene in '87, starting in the All-Star game and winning a Gold Glove and Silver Slugger.  Pete Rose gushes about Davis throughout the article. "It's like having an atomic bomb sitting next to you in the dugout," Rose says at one point, presumably in a positive way.  Davis, a quiet and proud player, didn't necessarily seek the limelight but wanted to make an impression: "I don't want to be famous.  I want to be secure. I don't want the world. I just want a piece of it. I want people to remember Eric Davis."  Mission accomplished.
  • Sheldon - Cabrera brings vocal leadership to Reds 
    Scott Rolen is typically portrayed as the quiet leader-by-example type, but Orlando Cabrera is apparently a different type of leader.  Sayeth Dusty: "He's a leader that doesn't mind leading.... He's vocal. He believes he's a winner and he believes he can help us win. He believes where he goes, winning follows."  Cabrera's certainly vocal.  After starting off sluggishly for the A's last year, he said of his performance"I suck. For real."

    Also, I had no idea that Orlando was Jolbert's brother.
  • CNATI - Francisco to get a shot in LF
    Trent reported that in yesterday's game the Reds started Juan Francisco in LF.  END's hot start has made him impossible to ignore, though Dusty is well aware of Francisco's weakness:  "I want to get him in there, we've still got to work on him because he's extremely aggressive," Baker said. "We've got to work on his pitch selection a little bit. They're starting to go out of the zone on him and he'll start to get a reputation and that's what they'll do. I'm very confident he'll make the adjustment."  That message didn't seem to resonate yesterday, when END saw only three pitches in three PAs.  Per Sheldon, Juan is "really comfortable" in the OF from growing up in the DR.  Wherever he plays, hopefully Francisco will continue his power rampage. I was at Saturday's game in Mesa against the Cubs, and Juan's second HR went over center field in no time at all. It was one of those really cool moments where you could hear the crowd gasp.
  • Fisher hurting
    Fay reports that RHP Carlos Fisher is out with a sore right elbow.  No MRI scheduled yet.  The Reds will rest Fisher a few days, but if that doesn't work, it's the ol' pokin' stick. 
  • Steve at Seeing Reds is taking in all the action down in Goodyear
    and posting his observations. He also has a load of fantastic pics, so go check it out.
  • MLBTradeRumors.com - Execs Name Best, Worst Moves Of The Offseason 
    The Reds signing of Aroldis Chapman checks in as one of the best free agent signings of the winter, according to an MLBTR survey of "several MLB executives." The survey might have more meaning if we knew what counted as an exec and how many were surveyed, but it's still great to hear that the industry considers the Chapman deal a big positive. The other good FA signings: Felipe Lopez, Adrian Beltre, Adam LaRoche, Chone Figgins, and Hideki Matsui.
  • Quick! What's the celsius-fahrenheit conversion?
    Ask Johnny Bench!  OMG Reds, via Deadspin, links this somewhat odd interview aboot everything from today's young catchers to the BRM versus the '09 Yankees.  Johnny might want to start worrying about passing his next driving test.
  • The Times Daily (Florence, AL) - End of the line for David Weathers?
    David Weathers wouldn't mind joining a contending team if the situation is right, even if that's not until June or July.  But if this is it, he has no regrets.  "There's nothing I can do to ever be at the level of competition that I was in when I was wearing a major league uniform," he said. "I was at the top of my profession, and there's not a whole lot of softball leagues that can fill that void. The big league lifestyle? I'm not going to miss it." (HT to BBTF).
  • BtB - HOF Careers Stopped by Injury 
    Jeff Zimmerman shows us a WAR graph for several players who have had their careers impaired by injuries. Our own Scott Rolen is one of the better showers. Even with injuries, he has a legit argument for the Hall of Fame. A 6 WAR season this year would certainly help matters. :)    (Thanks, JinAZ)
  • FanGraphs - FANS say Reds have 15% chance at the playoffs
    Which sounds about right. The projected standings are based on the FANS player projections. St. Louis is the easy division favorite, with a 63% chance of taking the Central. The big surprises to me are the Dodgers, who have only an 18% chance at the West (considerably lower than Colorado or Arizona), and the Phillies, who "trail" the Braves 56% to 23% for winning the East.
  • Baseball Musings - The draft and race
    The aftershocks of Torri Hunter's comments continue. Here, David Pinto links to a Pittsburgh paper's article about the draft and black (i.e., african-american) participation in baseball.  Both agree that the draft has decreased black participation in baseball, but Pinto disagrees that a worldwide draft is the solution.  I'm not sure he's right.  A worldwide draft decreases the teams' incentives to run international academies.  That should leave more resources to develop domestic talent.  In any event, to me class is more important than race in all of this.  For several years baseball has become a more suburban, affluent sport.  It's going to be very difficult to stop that tide.  As different groups gravitate towards that demographic, you'll see more baseball participation from them.   
  • Baseball Prospectus | Squawking Baseball - At Bat 2010
    This review, which looks only at the iPhone version of the new At Bat 2010 app, concludes that "most of what you'll find are only slight upgrades to the previous edition."  We've had this conversation recently, but what do people think about At Bat on the iPhone versus the Droid or other non-iPhones?  And how solid is the audio feed on both?

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Dusty’s ‘Final Answer’

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by Madville on Mar 17, 2010 7:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was going to comment on that too.

Not only is he making a big deal out of a tiny sample, but his solution is to get a few bunts down.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Mar 17, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Dusty for you...

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

How's Davey Johnson looking today?

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm watching that movie right now!

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by ZJiff30 on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wrote two sci-fi novels

about green women who come to Earth from the planet Sundovia. Lotsa porn in them. Ebooks.

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by johnu1 on Mar 17, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding the At Bat 2010 app...

I haven’t used the iPhone version, but I plunked down $15 for the android version and feel kind of ripped off now. Why is it the same price without supporting video?

And yeah, the audio feed has been completely sucking, to the point that I have to reset it every five or ten minutes. Their only explanation on the help pages blames the cell network, but surely someone has figured out a way to deal with this. Aren’t there tons of audio streaming apps on the market already?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Mar 17, 2010 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I've enjoyed the app on my blackberry

It’s hard to fully judge it because ST Gameday is basically crap, but I feel like it is much improved over what blackberries had access to last season, which was a mobile version of MLB.com.

As for the $15, that’s how much gameday audio costs, which is why they charge the same price for it. I wouldn’t worry too much about the lack of video. The video highlights are grainy crap (on my phone at least). And their rare for the spring anyway.

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by Slyde on Mar 17, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, they have crappy video highlights.

What I mean is that the iPhone app also streams video (supposedly) if you have mlb.tv. For the same price.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Mar 17, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah, gotcha

that’s cuz iphone is awesomezzzz

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by Slyde on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

IPhone app

It runs audio fine, even in ST. Occasionally there will be a slight break in the feed, but it always comes right back. Also, you can close the At Bat app and listen to the feed in Safari, which lets you do other stuff on the phone while you are listening.

The video streaming and highlights are a bit grainy on 3G, but if you have access to a WiFi network they are crystal clear.

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by nycredsfan on Mar 17, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's been my experience with it so far too

Audio feeds work great when they’re available. I haven’t used it for video at all though.

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by BK on Mar 17, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

At-Bat should bunt more

Last year, it was a no-brainer great deal. I thought the vifeo highlights were pretty good, althought I did notice that there happened to be considerably more highlights available for Yankee games than for Reds games. Also, they always featured one free live streaming game per day for non-subscribers to mlb.tv.

The audio coverage was nice, but it was always cutting out for me because I usually listened to it on the train where iphone had issues switching from one tower to the next. Also, I don’t have 3g because my original $400 phone still works just fine, thankyouverymuch.

 I’m debating it this year, but there just aren’t any alternatives. I’m sure I’ll do it.

by Brian B on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

FWIW

I don’t think that Dickerson and Stubbs are so far apart talent wise that I would have definitely picked one over the other prior to spring training. In fact, I’ve been saying they should platoon (as you all know). So, I don’t think that one winning the job in ST really is all that controversial. The stupid thing was to even imply that the job was already won by Stubbs in the first place. They were only setting themselves up to look bad if Dickerson grossly outplayed Stubbs in the spring.

It doesn’t matter much though. Even if Stubbs isn’t in CF on Opening Day, he’ll get plenty of starts as Dusty “plays the hot hand.”

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by Slyde on Mar 17, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

We all know how good ol’ Fistbands is at doing that…

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by BobbyO on Mar 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree they're not that far apart

I just don’t think a few dozen exhibition PAs against mediocre pitchers shaking off their winter rust can give us any additional and meaningful information about the players. I mean, if Stubbs had showed up to camp 20 lbs. overweight then I’d have no problem handing the job to Dickerson. But if it’s just a question of when Stubbs will start hitting, then I don’t think his ST performance should be held against him. If it’s up to me Dickerson shares LF with Balentien and spells Stubbs as necessary.

I do agree that too much is being made of who’s the OD starter. But if we don’t discuss that, we end up talking about John Wall and presidential approval ratings.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbs showing up 20 lbs overweight

would basically require him to gain 100 lbs. The cat is skinny.

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by Cy Schourek on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome point

I was going to take Ken to task for this

- basing the decision on a couple dozen exhibition games is silly.

since by giving Stubbs the job they would basing that on a couple dozen regular season games, but I think you put the point better. They will both play and I’m hoping they both play well.

by timb116 on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed Stubbs shouldn't be guaranteed the job, but those are two different situations, and you know it

50ish ST plate appearances, largely against minor leaguers and guys working stuff out, is very different than 200 PAs against guys in mid-season form.

What would be dumb is automatically dismissing Stubbs after 25 ST PAs after what he did last season

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by nycredsfan on Mar 17, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

You wonder, rather than base this on 20 AB's, if they don't factor in the work-outs before the season starts and all

And, NYC, I could grudgingly accept your “mid-season form” analysis if the mid-season form of the Pirates was ever superior “largely against minor leaguers and guys working stuff out.”

In the end, the 3 for 2 idea is still our best idea and hoepfully Dusty will come around. I’m more interested in finding a way to keep Balentin and make sure he’s in LF quite a lot.

by timb116 on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'd like to see Balentin get a good amount of PT.

Haven’t we seen some impressive projections for his 2010?

(FWTW)

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read my post again

That’s not my point at all. I don’t ever say give the job to Stubbs (or Dickerson). I’m saying base it on their career track record and projected ceiling.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know. That's why Slyde phrased it better than I did

I had a ten part argument that would have made you hate me and Slyde phrased the same argument in “non-asshole.” I don’t always speak that on the internet….which is weird because I always speak it in real life.

You do an awesome post, full of more articles than I can read. The last thing you need is me nitpicking one sentence!

by timb116 on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ceiling is what sways me

Though it’s pretty amorphous. Dickerson deserves to start based on his track record in the minors and majors to date, though he has been insulated from facing lefties in the majors. But if Stubbs has the potential to develop 15 HR power on top of his speed, superb defense and ability to get on base at a .350+ clip. You have to give him every opportunity to do so.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you have it wrong.

Dusty has been quite clear that he does not play the “hot hand.” He even was quoted as saying this last year, I believe.

by Brian B on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Against RHP have Dickerson leadoff and I guess play LF

Have Stubbs play CF, although I have no idea where to bat him in the lineup.

I think it’s pretty misguided of The Dusty to make this a Dickerson or Stubbs choice in CF. Make Stubbs the everyday CF and give him enough rope to either hang himself, or do something cool with that rope. Play Dickerson in LF vs RHP, and give Gomes the PAs vs LHP.

Each word that comes out of The Dusty’s mouth puzzles me even more concerning him…

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

that solution makes too much sense

against RH- the Reds would basically have 3 CFs on defense and all three should be above league ave offense against RHP. If Stubbs really struggles move Dickerson to CF and move Balentein or Heisey w/Gomes in LF.

by davidmac84 on Mar 17, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

RayMoan'd

Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.

by Madville on Mar 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Happy St. Paddy's Day!

I didn’t realize that the Reds started the green uniform trend, way back in the day:

Back in 1978, March 17 around Spring Training camps was known simply as … Friday.

Maybe Cincinnati Reds general manager Dick Wagner was bored after tooling the Big Red Machine into back-to-back World Series winners in 1975 and 1976. Maybe he grew nostalgic for the days when his gimmicks popularized the Ice Capades. Or maybe he just liked pulling a fast one.

Whatever it was, months before the Reds departed for their Spring Training camp in Tampa, Wagner had this brilliant thought. Most people struck by ingenuity would be eager to call others and share their idea, but Wagner went the other way: He kept it to himself.
…..

After workouts, the Reds dragged their perspiring bodies off the field and retreated to the clubhouse — closed, uncharacteristically, to the media — took a look and then did a double-take at their lockers … green uniforms hanging in front of each.

“Did we get traded to Oakland?” catcher Johnny Bench asked.

Shortstop Davey Concepcion squinted at his green No. 13 uniform and said, “I’m not wearing that. I’m Venezuelan, not Irish.”

But they all giddily changed into the head-to-toe green.

“Everywhere that was usually red had been changed to green — the team name, the logo, the player’s name on the back, socks, all the trimmings,” Tuttle said. "The hats were solid green with a white ‘C.’

“Everyone stayed out of sight until game time …”

… When, lined up single file with Anderson in the lead, the Reds — er, Greens — marched out of the clubhouse and onto the field.

“It was a total surprise,” recalled Hal McCoy, the Hall of Fame-recognized baseball writer who, in retirement from the Dayton Daily News, still covers the Reds through his blog on the newspaper’s Web site. “And it created quite a shock.”

HT to BBTF.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I could swear the Reds sometimes wore green caps around 1943 for some reason...

Anyone else? I think I saw it years ago in a Stall & Dean catalog.

It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It's what Dusty thinks that matters, and he's a knucklehead.

by PeteyHendrix on Mar 17, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The A's

did not wear green before Finley bought them in the middle 60s.

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by johnu1 on Mar 17, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds familiar, actually

Stylized C and not wishbone C, right?

by thevole on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post, ken.

rec’d

It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It's what Dusty thinks that matters, and he's a knucklehead.

by PeteyHendrix on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, and I'll rec it too.

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Maybe there could sometimes be a morning and an evening edition?

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 17, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

This one was particularly long bc I gave notice to my employer recently

It’ll probably be shorter during the season because of game threads and stuff.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

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by nycredsfan on Mar 17, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I wish we still had Wholebear Cabrera

And then he could be the DP combo with his brother…

That would be AWESOME

by Highlifeman21 on Mar 17, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Wrong

Jolbert is a shortstop… he would be competing with his brother for a starting spot

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by BobbyO on Mar 17, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ticket values

If you are buying souvenirs of baseball history, today’s game against the Brewsters has to be a ticket to keep.

Just in case.

The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan

by johnu1 on Mar 17, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm truly at a loss about what should be done with END.

My instincts tell me that he is what he is at the plate. He’s gonna hit some monster shots and his value will be heavily dependent on his batting average as he’ll never draw many walks. He doesn’t really have a true spot on defense for this team as there are at least 4 guys who are better suited for LF and no way is Rolen going to sit unless he remains made out of glass. But, it’s impossible to ignore the power in a team that could seriously use some. I dunno. I know I’m just reiterating things that all of us know already, but what do you guys/girls think? Do you look to shop him because there’s nothing else to be done with him, or what?

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd lean that way too

especially if he puts up good counting stats in AAA this year. I’d say the shelf life on his “talented prospect” tag would begin to expire after this season because of the kind of player that he is. You’d let a catcher or a good glove speedster season a bit more, but with him they’d have to sell high on him soon. Question is what could Walt get in return for him? Wonder how other organizations would view his value. This is why I’m at a loss about him. Do you dump him because you can’t really use him and get what you can get?

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 17, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too Scrabs

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by Madville on Mar 17, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hold on to him this year

He could easily get 40 games at 3B as Rolen’s caddy. Hopefully it won’t be more than that, but with Rolen’s history and age we should be prepared for the worst. END is also better 1B insurance than Ramon, though again that hopefully won’t be necessary. I don’t wan to open a starting spot for him but you could do worse for a bench/insurance guy. You could also give that role to Frazier, but I’d rather see him get consistent playing time down in Louisville.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got an eerie feeling that Cairo or Miles

get those 40 starts at third. Hope I’m wrong, END could be some pop off of the bench, but doesn’t that kind of reduce his value if you’re looking to deal him down the line?

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably right about Miles/Cairo

But I’m not too concerned about his trade value. He’s got such obvious weaknesses that must keep his value pretty low. Then again, it only takes one fool/believer.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would hope Sutton, Frazier or even Wilkin

which means it’ll be Miles/Cairo

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jocketty

said he told Dusty to make sure Janish gets lots of at-bats, so he can continue to develop even though he’s not starting at SS after all.

So, yeah, it will probably be Miles/Cairo.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Wilkin making it over Miles

I don’t think they see him as a starting anything, so they won’t mind only having him play occasionally. Plus, I think they love his versatility and like the idea of having a 3rd catcher.

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by nycredsfan on Mar 17, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cairo

was the Yankees’ third catcher. He was also their best baserunner, by a large margin.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 17, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cairo can catch?

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by crolfer on Mar 17, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theoretically

He was the “break glass in case of emergency” catcher. I don’t think he’s ever done in the big leagues.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 17, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know?

It is 6128 miles from Cincinnati to Cairo?

by Daedalus on Mar 18, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let's hope he stays that far away.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anything needs to be done this year

in terms of trading or finding a spot for him on the big league team. He could be up for another audition sooner than later. Rolen is fragile, Bruce could go down again (lord help us) and Gomes, C-Dick and Wlad are far from sure bets. Stubbs’ fortunes also affect Francisco by extension, as C-Dick could become the primary CF, freeing up time LF at some point this season. END is a perfect candidate to pair with Gomes.

I think there’s ample reason to give Wlad a shot at a breakout in LF. His performance this year, along with like Alonso and Frazier, will go a long way in determining where Francisco “e.n.d.s” up.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose all of that is true.

My concern is trying to maximize the return on the odd man/men out. They all need AB’s.

A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I think Wlad gets the first crack at trying to win the LF job outright. He’s out of options and has pretty good upside. He’s certainly reached base more effectively than END and currently provides more reliable defense out there. If he’s able to play 40% of the time out there and PH, maybe that will tell us something.

Maybe Gomes will really bust out, crushing 30 HRs and hitting righties much better than he has historically. But his defense and splits suggest, he’s a 1-2 year fix. Since most observers seem to agree that Dickerson is the best 4th OF in the league, but impeded by his splits, fragility and being in danger of blockage by a 1st round pick at his natural position, he’s probably not the long-term solution either. It’s also worth noting that END has pretty jagged splits too. He can probably improve them given his age, but maybe his ceiling is a one-two year pairing with someone like Gomes — or a trade at peak value.

So see if Wlad can become the fulltimer, then look to Francisco, Frazier and the unlikely, but highly-appealing Alonso/Votto shift.

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 17, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

Gomes is the man.

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by Madville on Mar 17, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I misread the reposter

I read it as “Francisco to get shot in LF”. Which seemed a little unusual.

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by justin007000 on Mar 17, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I've noticed you've made strides on the spelling and grammar front recently

So kudos to you, young man!

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by nycredsfan on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or kudos to Firefox's built in spell checker, whatever

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by jch24 on Mar 18, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can turn it on for the subject line if you're unsure, methinks.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 18, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are so smart!

I didn’t realize you could do that. Do I have to do it every time, or is it a permanent setting?

by 'tHan on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I don’t use firefox on my laptop.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason it makes facebook chat even more glitchy...

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i do that

you have to turn it on every time.

Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right click

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Mar 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a pheasant flying around Goodyear they all call Francisco

Dusty’s just calling his shot.

END didn’t get any chances in LF yesterday, btw. Between seeing no defensive opportunities and only three pitches in three PAs, that’s about as little as you can do in a ballgame.

by ken on Mar 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

elijah dukes was released

link

clubhouse cancer overflowing with potential. talented dude nonetheless. take a flier on him for dirt cheap?

i’m against it but figured some would want to be in the know…

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Some are.

‘Nukkah made it a FanShot earlier today. But don’t sweat it.. nobody reads FanShots.

, bitches!

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially me i guess...

mods, feel free to delete my comment.

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the guy who was sent down

for Corey Patterson.

Dukes has a promising stick, but sucks on defense. At least from what I’ve seen. That’s why he was sent down for C-Pat. Patterson can at least catch a fly ball.

This is surprising, though. Dukes could have been sent to the minors. The team that can never get enough OFers didn’t even want him in AAA.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

from a PR or legal perspective i'm sure they had to say it was a baseball decision

even though we all know how troubled he was off the field… well on the field too. didn’t he have some physical altercations with umpires?

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 17, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

off the field problems

From Wikipedia:

In 1996, Dukes’ father was convicted of second-degree murder. One year later, Dukes was arrested for the first time. Dukes has been arrested at least three times for battery, and once for assault. According to court records, he fathered at least five children with four women between 2003 and 2006.

On May 23, 2007, it was reported that his wife filed a restraining order after he threatened to kill her. On June 12, a 17-year-old foster child who was living in the care of a relative of Dukes accused him of impregnating her. Police said the sex was apparently consensual. When the girl confronted Dukes, he allegedly got angry and threw a bottle of Gatorade at her.

Dukes has received anger-management training. When Dukes was traded to the Nationals, the team also hired an ex-police officer in the role of “Special Assistant: Player Concerns”. This person accompanies Dukes everywhere to ensure that he keeps himself free of trouble.

Sounds like they decided he wasn’t worth the trouble.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 17, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Brown is on the phone with Bobby C right now trying to convince him....

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 18, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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