Hal: Brandon Phillips bowls between his legs ...Red Reporter reacts.
Hall of Famer and recently retired journalist Hal McCoy was the first to get the scoop on our Gold Gloved cleanup hitter's activity outside of baseball:
Phillips, an avid bowler, went bowling Sunday after a game with Milwaukee was rained out. Said the man who has three 300 games, "I bowled 225 and 205, then we had a little family match and they made me bowl between my legs. I bowled 154."
That's impressive stuff. And Phillips's bowling skills are pretty good too.
I know that there is at least one Red Reporter that regularly hits the lanes. And I know that there are several more of us who enjoy one or the other (or both) of history's two greatest bowling movies. So I thought I might throw up a bowling thread and see where this thread might go.
- So what's your best bowling score? (I used to be able to break 200 on a very good night. Long ago.)
- Anybody ever read Bowling Alone?
- Good bowling alley food and drink?
- Is bowling a good 'date' activity or is that just too much forced retro irony?
- Shoes: rent or buy?
- 'Kingpins' or 'The Big Lebowski'?
- Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount?
And there's also Skee Ball to discuss.
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I've read "Bowling Alone"
I found it very interesting, and some ways disturbing. The author has done a lot of other intriguing stuff on community, too.
For example, he’s found that Internet friends are not the same as real friends. They did brain scans of people interacting in person and over the intertubes, and different parts of the brain are activated. Apparently, our brains are still the stone age model. Social animals that we are, we need to be in the physical presence of others (or at least be able to see their faces).
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Faces (and the human figure) are important.
I once read an academic-y essay about that ‘face’ on Mars. The author/researcher pointed out that we’ve always scanned the heavens looking for ourselves up there (clouds, constellations, the Man in the Moon..) and that we should expect more of the same when we look at photographs of distant worlds’ topographies.
He said we want and need to see faces and we want to react to faces. We start young. We’ve got tits in our hungry mouths before we can really use our eyes well but once we’re able to see we pretty much lie on our backs waiting for someone to make eye contact with us.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
about what?
The book, or the study about Internet friends?
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I read it too
A friend did some work with Robert Putnam in grad school. It’s a little depressing. Putnam would certainly tut-tut at RR, an online forum focused on professional sports. I remember him saying that pro sports and ESPN have made us less connected to our immediate communities.
like I said
Some of his findings are really disturbing. For example, he’s found diversity is bad for community.
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My answers
So what’s your best bowling score? 184, I think.
Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? Nope.
Good bowling alley food and drink? Umm… I’m usually not there that long.
Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? Sure, it can be a good time.
Shoes: rent or buy? rent. I don’t bowl enough to buy them.
Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? It’s kind of a cool look. Nice to remember that baseball players are human every once in a while.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I think you're right about the 'human interest' side of professional athletes.
BP mentioned his family to Hal. I don’t know how interesting a piece about his family might be (and I don’t know how far he might let Hal go with such a story) but I know I’d read it and probably take something from it. I think a lot of people (not me necessarily) especially in a local/regional market like to read these things as it can sometimes clear their palette of our taste for Tiger, Big Ben and other bitter fruit.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
More amazing coverage of BP's bowling skills...
Me, I’m a terrible bowler. I’m lucky to break 100. I have read parts of Bowling Alone for a sociology class once upon a time. And I absolutely love Skee Ball.
by the finest muffins on Mar 10, 2010 10:46 PM EST reply actions
I'm terrible, too
Obama could beat me.
I can’t even remember my score. I don’t think I know how to score bowling, or what a good score is.
I went bowling a few times in college, with friends/dates, but didn’t like it. And I went once with coworkers, when we had our annual Christmas party at the bowling alley.
Part of the reason I don’t like bowling is that it’s kinda icky, wearing used shoes.
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I may be a godawful bowler, but I still enjoy it.
And check out Madville’s “brutal” night below and compare it with my previous comment. There’s some perspective on what a good score is!
by the finest muffins on Mar 10, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the "it's icky" angle
There are 200+ things you touch every day that are worse than anything you’d encounter in a bowling alley.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
So?
Disgust is not a rational response. For anyone.
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It's called perspective
Are you disgusted by the keyboard you’re typing on?
If something brings you pleasure you shouldn’t overthink things by worrying about what germs you might be exposed to that your body’s natural defenses will destroy anyway.
Antibacterial cleaners and wipes are a bad thing, from both an evolutionary and sociological perspective.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
well, that's the difference
I don’t like bowling.
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touche, honky. :)
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by jch24 on Mar 11, 2010 7:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jch, thinking about your comments..
..I realized that during my time at the bowling alley I’m not just wearing the community’s shoes- I’m also sticking my fingers into holes that are probably dirtier, slimier, sweatier and cruddier than the average hole I stick my fingers in.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Unlike jch.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Mar 11, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You know, make fun of me all you like, I think I've been a pretty good sport
But I would really prefer if others were left alone.
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one of your classics...

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I love this guy.
Nothing says “I’ve got it all under control” like a square foot of monkey finger fucking permanently inked on your gut.
You just know his 401k is huuge.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 12, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I like how his jeans still have a barcode sticker on them
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Which means they are from some uniform company/service
Stock increasing!
Ladies, line forms to the right!
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 12, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Shit.
Laughed so hard I couldn’t open my eyes.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 12, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
actually, it's a chemical response
there was a fascinating article in the NY Times a few weeks ago about how there are different levels of a certain chemical in the brain that determine how disgusted a person gets. the interesting thing to me was that research showed that people who are more conservative tend to get more disgusted than others (sorry cons, i’m not making this up).
i just find the human brain amazing and the things researchers are discovering make me wonder if there is such thing as rationality. it’s all chemical levels, and that, we have no control over.
I saw that article!
That bit about disgust and politics was fascinating.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I do think
that it’s all chemicals.
And I find it fascinating. Like this. (There’s even a baseball illustration.)
It’s about the biological underpinnings of human morality. Turns out, morality has little basis in rationality. It’s hard-wired in the human brain; our moral reactions are visceral. Basically, there are five elements of morality: harm, fairness, community/loyalty, authority and purity. When people disagree about moral issues, it’s because they rank those elements differently.
The ranking and placement of moral spheres also divides the cultures of liberals and conservatives in the United States. Many bones of contention, like homosexuality, atheism and one-parent families from the right, or racial imbalances, sweatshops and executive pay from the left, reflect different weightings of the spheres. In a large Web survey, Haidt found that liberals put a lopsided moral weight on harm and fairness while playing down group loyalty, authority and purity. Conservatives instead place a moderately high weight on all five. It’s not surprising that each side thinks it is driven by lofty ethical values and that the other side is base and unprincipled.
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I have a one-year old.
A friend of ours has a kid that’s a few months older, and she cringed when she saw me giving my keys to my kid to play with/bite on. She says that her kid is not allowed to play with keys because keys carry a lot of germs. I said “Oh,” and made no move to take my keys back. Meanwhile, she lets her DOG lick her kid’s face all day long. Unbelievable.
I should clarify, this is my wife’s friend, not mine.
Dogs have REALLY clean mouths
But that’s not the point.
The more you’re exposed to things, the more natural resistance your body builds toward outside harm. It’s a good thing. You’re in the right, and by a wide margin.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
asthma basically exists because everything is so damned sanitized
For me, babies are like eggs. Throw ‘em against the wall and keep the ones that ain’t broke.
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by Cy Schourek on Mar 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
that's how it used to be
Smithsonian had an interested article about the “hygiene hypothesis,” written by an Indian doctor who had emigrated to the US. His children had allergies, which were nearly unknown back in India. Back in India, they routinely used water from the river, which was polluted with the neighbors’ waste. He thought that protected people from allergies. However, children also routinely died young, too. All in all, he thought allergies were a small price to pay.
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I've been told that eating local honey is supposed to be good for allergies
because of exposure to local pollen, or something like that. Not sure if it actually works (hasn’t so far for me) but it’s safer to try than drinking polluted water.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
For example
For people who have allergies to cats, for example, the best thing is to spend a lot of time with cats. The allegeries go away.
So yeah, pollen allergies, wash your face with it.
the problem is
my wife has cat allergies and she can hardly breath after we leave a house with cats. So, it’s not like we can just stick her there until she’s healed.
Also, cats suck.
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I'm used to cats and I get so much more from a cat so I prefer cats.
That’s not true. I’ve got a dog and he’s cool.
Cats are okay but I prefer dogs. Note to every cat owner: Even though you’ve fooled yourself into thinking it doesn’t, your house smells like cat urine.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
probably
And note to dog owners: even though you’ve fooled yourself into thinking it doesn’t, your house smells like wet dog.
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by BubbaFan on Mar 11, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure.
And it’s like walking into the Garden of Eden after coming home from a cat owner’s house.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
if the garden of eden stinks to high heaven!
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how do you know it doesn't?
Or do you think animal waste didn’t happen until Eve ruined it for everybody?
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Animals used to poop honey.
True story. It’s in one of the Genesises.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
did you have to eat it
to stay un-allergic?
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Speaking of suck
I’ve found cat people are more often than not also mac people
Coincidence? I think not
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 11, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
hate cats, love dogs, love macs
suck it :-)
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I'm a Mac person...
And I dislike all animals. So much so that I won’t even eat them.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
honest question
what’s to hate about cats?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
My dad's allergic, so we never had one.
I think my mom wants to get one at some point now though.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
that's your problem then
not the cat’s
next?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don't hate them persay.
I just like dogs a lot more. You can rough house with dogs. :P
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
i rough around with my cat all the time
but ive heard from many cat-haters that if all cats were like my cat then they would cease to be cat-haters.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I used to have one of those cats.
And I used to get those compliments.
Larry was great but not as great as my girlfirend/fiancee/wife (who was allegic to Larry). …Nice knowing ya, Larry.
It’s so nice that my wife’s urine goes away when she flushes the toilet. I love her so much.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
cats will stab you in the back and not even think twice
they are cold, vindictive, selfish animals, and the world would be a better place without them.
Plus, they smell funny.
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by Slyde on Mar 11, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know about all that.
But their litterboxes have the scent of cold vindictive selfishishness.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I mean I like big jungle cats and similar creatures
but house cats, no way. They are devil mammals.
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 11, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I consider cats to be like females (personality-wise)
and dogs to be like males
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Hi, gejoe!
Do you remember that tennis ball you had once? Do you have it now? Howabout now?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 12, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
you found my tennis ball???
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they smell bad, I don't like that they poop inside, they aren't nice, not good for snuggling, and they ruin furniture
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wrong
Charlie smells like a warm sweater straight from the dryer, he’s very well-mannered and courteous, he snuggles better than your wife does (bazinga), and has never scratched anything or anybody i didnt tell him to.
yeah, he poops inside. but considering all the work that goes into getting dogs to do it where you want them to, i’ll take the cat everyday of the week.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I would say you don't have a cat, but an alien
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
seriously
youve probably just never met one of the good ones. some cats are awful. but Charlie is a true-blue best friend.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I would say he has a cat
One that has been well-socialized and trained.
My cat is very sweet-natured. A little shy, but very affectionate once she decides to come out from under the couch.
And she’s a snuggler, for sure. Her favorite time of day is bedtime, when she can cuddle up with her favorite people.
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My girlfriend has a cat...
He’s like a little kid- he’s always testing limits and jumping up where he shouldn’t. He loves being the center of attention… And he likes to swat, usually resulting in scratches on the arm. Vicious :P He’s fun though.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
nothing more appealing than a man who likes cats
A man who hates animals could be a serial killer. A man who likes dogs might want to keep his wife on a leash, too. But a man who likes cats understands unconditional love. ;-)
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wait
are you saying I might be a serial killer? Shit, how do I know? Is there a test?
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TEST: kill someone
Did you like it?
-If yes, you’re a serial killer.
-If no, repeat.
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by Cy Schourek on Mar 11, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
a cat's affection is not unconditional
cat’s have plenty of conditions. dogs, on the other hand, will smell the crotch of any serial killer that sits down next to them.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
not the cat's affection for you
Your affection for the cat.
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Unconditional love is letting your husband keep you on a leash, I say
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
and that's why you don't have a husband!
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How do you know I don't have a husband?
Why do you think I have an ex-wife? :)
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Definitely allergies
And cats are evil, and not social, and every time they look at you they give you the look they’re plotting to kill you.
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 11, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
honestly
that’s racist. sure, some cats are terrible. but same goes for baseball players, blog commenters, women, and breakfast cereals. but that doesnt mean they all are like that.
my cat, btw, is not one of the bad ones.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't it be speciesist?
If that’s even a word.
Your cat must be the exception, which is cool, b/c everything must have an exception in life. I’ve just never had a good experience with cats ever.
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 11, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
well
i’d say you need to meet my cat. but im not inviting you over. cat-hater.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
love cats, love PCs
I don’t hate dogs. They’re just too high-maintenance. If I wanted to put that much work into a relationship, I’d get married.
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I don't like animals at all
I’ve never seen the upside of pets. That’s just me though.
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that's kind of how I feel about kids!
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Whitney Houston would like a word with you.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Get a tarantula... Or a whipscorpion.
They’re great for parties.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
What, you can train 'em to pump the keg?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
You might get Glischrochilus quadrisignatus to do that.
One of the common names is the Beer Beetle.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Well they certainly don't have the upside of Todd Frazier...
I guess pets just don’t have subjective utility for you :)
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by nycredsfan on Mar 11, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't deny that pets are good for some people
but I don’t need whatever it is they provide.
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you always seemed like
more of a Tamagotchi guy to me.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
This is how I feel.
Pets are needy, smelly, expensive, and noncommunicative. You could say all the same things about babies, but at least they grow up to be interesting to talk to and take care of you in your old age. Pets are always going to be way more trouble than they’re worth to me. The allergy thing is big, too. My Dad’s deathly allergic to almost all animals, so not only did I never own any pets, but whenever someone we knew got one, it meant we couldn’t visit anymore.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot to mention that cats and dogs are both wildly unpredictable
And have claws. Yes, they scare me more than a little bit. Give me a nice, quiet plant any day over an animal.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, that wasn't a reference.
I missed the potted plant bit. I just really prefer plants to animals.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
like ive said
bad pets are all those things. my cat is none of those things. but what makes pets better than a baby is that if the pet is a jerk you can just get rid of them. they dont make pounds for babies. well, i guess they do, but you can get rid of the cat without all the shame and guilt and public scorn you get for getting rid of a baby.
also, ive found that bad pets normally come from bad owners. if people dont know how to properly train and take care of a pet, the pet will easily turn into a jerk. much like babies!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Meh.
Learning how to properly train and take care of a pet sounds like a lot of work for very little payoff. Pass.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
that's why i have a cat
its remarkably easy. he likes shitting in cat litter, so i make sure he has some. he also likes playing with squeeky mice and catnip, so i make sure he has some. he likes napping so i give him a bed. he likes sitting on my lap and watching Lost, so we do that.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
this conversation sounds exactly like the PC vs Mac debate from yesterday
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And tomorrow's 'Leno or Letterman' thread!
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Leno is a chin.
I really don’t find him to be especially hilarious. Or even very funny.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
boo.
I prefer leno’s humor to letterman’s. Actually, i was a huge Conan fan.
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nope
Leno is for AOL bird people
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by Slyde on Mar 15, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So rec'd.
Of course, how is then that he’s so freakin’ popular?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 15, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah.
I could be reading this wrong but I think that in the big picture, Leno won.
The whole brouhaha may have reinforced Conan’s support among young(er) hip(per) wisecrackers. But as NBC learned by moving Conan up against Dave.. the young and hip no longer watch television.
The whole reason NBC tried the Leno in primetime thing was to try to cash in on Leno’s steady popularity (with an inexpensively produced show) while simultaneously trying to build Conan’s audience for the future against Letterman. Again, I may not have this right but I think that NBC moved Leno back to late night not so much because his primetime ratings weren’t what they had expected but because Conan was being beaten down by Letterman (who Leno had pretty consistently beaten by varying margins).
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 15, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
leno beat letterman? really?
didn’t know that.
i love letterman but don’t find leno funny at all. and conan’s just weird.
You like Letterman
That sleazy fucker?
I understand that you wouldn’t find Leno funny…because neither he nor Letterman or Paul Schaeffer are remotely funny..but Sis D…Conan is the fucking bomb…and he actually appears to have integrity a characteristic sadly lacking in Dave or Jay.
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
Leno beat Letterman pretty much every night, right from the start
When he moved to 10:00, however, his ratings tanked badly. Conan also had bad ratings, and Letterman was beating him, but he was getting no lead-in help from Jay at 10:00. Conan’s an extremely funny guy, but finding his footing with the Tonight Show was tricky. His ratings were lousy when he started Late Night too, but NBC was willing to stick with him then. Not so with the Tonight Show, even though they only gave him seven months.
The winner of the whole debacle was Jimmy Kimmel.
by Brendanukkah on Mar 15, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
NBC set Conan up to fail
putting leno on before conan killed his lead in audience. when they announced the new leno show they did so expecting the ratings to be worse.
I don’t know how conan was supposed to hold onto and audience that wasn’t there.
It's because they don't have to get up to go to work.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Enjoy Leno
don’t like Letterman
can’t stand Conan
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no it doesnt
you are so wrong about that.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
yes, I am
I need to stop fighting with people. I love the world (except for animals and macs)
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Yes, it's eerily similar.
Except no one in the Mac vs. PC debate said they preferred to just not have a computer at all, no? I suppose that would have been an ironic argument to make online.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds like a riddle. There's probably a profound answer there.
But the boring explanation: this started as dog vs. cat, then evolved into whether pets are worthwhile at all. That’s like starting with Mac vs. PC and moving into whether computers are any good at all.
by the finest muffins on Mar 11, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Computers are good.
But they’re also overrated.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Like Derek Jeter?
That’s the first thing that pops into my head whenever I hear ‘overrated’. And I usually say it out loud too… Makes for interesting conversations.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
And if you want to end the conversation quickly, just continue mumbling..
“Robot robot ROBOT! Derek Jeter is a robot. Jorge Posada too. Mariano Rivera thoughhesmoreofacyborg. 911 conspirators don’t want you to know this but of course that’s why have the black helicopter spray.”
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
so rec'd
Also, I think it’s good for people to be near animals. It’s part of “biophilia” – our inborn need for nature.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I grew up on farm
We had horses, ponies, cattle, sheep, milk cows, feeder calves, beef cattle, hogs. chickens, dogs and cats.
My experiences of working with animals almost daily for nearly 18 years:
Horses, ponies – good high spirited animals
Cattle and chickens – dumb but lovable (well not chickens, they are eatable)
Dogs great companions easy to live with
Cats: A total waste.
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
it's probably too late for you
For the dirty water, I mean. The “hygiene hypothesis” applies to babies and young children. The theory is that their immune systems are still learning, and if you deprive them of exposure to real pathogens, they don’t learn to distinguish dangerous bacteria from harmless things like pollen, or the body’s own cells.
One interesting theory: lack of worms is what causes diseases like IBS and ulcerative colitis. They’ve actually found that feeding patients worms improves their symptoms.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
so I should send my kids onto Fear Factor?
Is Fear Factor even around still?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Mar 11, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Only in Slyde's utility belt.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
intestinal worms
tapeworms and such.
Actually, it’s worm eggs they feed IBS sufferers.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Aaaawwww, thanks. Group Hug!
Being a parent isn’t all that hard IMO. A little common sense goes a looooong way. The hardest part is resisting the urge to do everything for your kids. I learned more by trying and failing on my own than I ever did by someone showing me how to do something.
Also, a lot of parents are wrapped up in protecting their little snowflake. I don’t let my kids run wild, but I don’t have to see them at all times in certain situations either.
I spoil my kids with things that I wasn’t able to have/do as a child, but they have to earn it by being decent human beings. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
in a "I wonder how he knows" sort of way? :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Aha!
I knew the perfect picture for this post had to be out there somewhere but I didn’t have enough time this evening to find it.
Thanks, Muffins.

"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cincinnati Hat
Cincinnati jersey
All on the block
we get it in a hurry
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Mar 11, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
After closer listening
I’m now convinced that the line is “we get it in early.”
by Brendanukkah on Mar 12, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Just back from the Lanes
A brutal night for your RR rep..
Brutal
165
149
163
Brutal
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
BubbaFan
Those would be some brutal scores. 300 is a perfect game, so that’s pretty impressive if BP really does have three of them notched on his belt. That creep can roll!
by Brendanukkah on Mar 10, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
now that you mention it
I did hear that 300 was good. (Wasn’t that a Peanuts strip? Charlie Brown bowls 300, but when they send him his trophy, they spell his name “Braun.”)
I think one of my coworkers bowled a perfect game once. The national bowling association or whatever sent him a ring. I wonder if BP has a ring?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
To really hammer home the point that Crazy Heart is actually just a movie about The Dude twenty years later and not a comedy
The first scene has Jeff Bridges in a bowling alley. He also dumps piss on the ground, but if there’s a rug underneath him, it’s offscreen.
Speaking of bowling alley scenes..
..the “Lebowski” and “Kingpins” scenes reminded me of a great bowling alley scene from a David Lynch(?) movie. As I remember the movie was not great and the scene was not at all central to the story.. I got the feeling that the Lynch (or whoever) was just interested in the unique visual elements available to him in a bowling alley.
I wanna say Joakim Phoenix was in it but I dunno. Anyone?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Guns.
Pretty sure there was eventually gunplay. Or at least the threat of gunplay.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe UK gets game threads but Bearcats do not.
I know they’ve been out of the national limelight for some time now, but it’s conference tournament basketball for christ’s sake, and their season’s on the line.
That was just my lead-in to say Deonte Vaughn blows, and Mick Cronin is going to live and die with him.
I deleted it because I'm a Louisville fan, and I delete things
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You cannot ultimately delete the BearCat blowout tonight as UC crrushes U of L

Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
three points is hardly crushing, especially when Louisville SHIT THE BED
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
If not for Edgar, Louisville gets blown out
So I’m gonna have to disagree with you there.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Mar 11, 2010 10:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If not for edgar at the end of the game
Louisville could have won. He’s your freakin’ point guard. He should learn to shoot free throws.
Greg Paulus was pretty horrible for us this year
Mofo hasn’t played competitive QB for like 5 years, and we decide he’s our starter.
Fuckin’ Orange football….
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 11, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
his only good years were on the juice
plus all the publicity was the forbidden apple that pushed Bonds over the line.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
post a gamethread yourself
Build it and they will come.
If they’re not too busy talking about bowling.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
did he really?
When there’s a thread about the Oscars, and a thread about some private party most of us weren’t invited to, unmolested on the sidebar?
We gotta install a breathylizer on his computer.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
And every FanPost during the months of January and February . . .
Actually, I didn’t know there was a thread until Jeremy said so above.
I think he's just yanking your chain
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Did he? Didn't he? Only eleven people will ever know. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Operate with the deftest of touches
When we’re doing things right, you won’t be sure that we’re doing anything at all.
by Brendanukkah on Mar 11, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I tried telling my boss that
He didn’t buy it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You should have a defter touch!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
As an IT person, I can relate to this statement
In a best case scenario I don’t have to talk to users much at all because everything’s running as it should.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Now for the fun
* So what’s your best bowling score? Probably somewhere around 150-175
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? No
* Good bowling alley food and drink? Drink – beer in pitchers and lots of it. Food, notsomuch.
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? It’s fun because there’s a nice “break” in social interaction, which allows for adjustment.
* Shoes: rent or buy? rent. No way I spend money on something I suck at.
* Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? I’d like to know more about what makes the players tick. I love that BP is an avid bowler, it shows that he’s not obsessed with baseball (a good thing) while maintaining his competitive spirit.
Side note 1) My maternal grandfather was at one time a professional bowler. I got absolutely none of his talent.
Side note 2) I very recently hit the best clutch between-the-legs shot in history with obc and and Westie in attendance. I had really screwed the pooch the night before with the peach (surprise, I know), and made her a bet to wipe the slate clean if I could bowl a strike between my legs, right then right there. Upon throwing the ball, I walked away like Larry Bird(never looked back, finger in the air), and won the bet.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
That was cold
… but funny.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
In a way..........I suppose I did.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Mar 11, 2010 9:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
as for me?
* So what’s your best bowling score? I’m terrible. The last couple of times I went, my back started really aching about 6 frames in. I think I’m retired.
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? I remember it being mentioned in class, but nah. I agree with Bubba and FVA, though. Human interaction kinda rocks.
* Good bowling alley food and drink? Meh. Mediocre beer, I guess.
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? Well, not for me because I’m a) competitive and b) aformentioned back injury. But even in general, I have to say no. I’m more of a people-watching sort (restaurant patios, museum/garden/park, public transportation). All the same, there’s a decent bar right close to my house that I’ve gone to more than I’d like that tends to have a good atmosphere.
* Shoes: rent or buy? Chat up the person behind the counter and try and get ‘em for free. Otherwise try and get someone to rent them for me. I’m really weirded out by the idea of renting shoes.
* Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? YES. I’m a sucker for human-interest stories. Tell me about bowling, kangaroo courts, and fishing, please.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Bowling is a spiriual exercise.
The better one bowls, the closer one is to God at that moment in time.
Best game -278
Bowling alone – are not we all…ultimately
Good Lanes food and drink – A contradiction in terms
What is a ‘Date’?
I own
Hal’s Ok by me.
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
I bowl about once every couple of years. Or whenever there's a group of people that force me to play wii bowling.
* So what’s your best bowling score? (I used to be able to break 200 on a very good night. Long ago.) – Best is 197. But that score was an outlier.
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? – nope
* Good bowling alley food and drink? – Fried Cheese Sticks and Beer. Never tried the chocolate cake.
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? – It’s decent as long as you aren’t trying to impress the date. If you suck it’s super embarrassing, but if you’re awesome you still suck because it’s bowling.
- Shoes: rent or buy? – Rent
- ‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’? – Kingpin is great and stars Woody, but Lebowski is top 10 all time and features the greatest movie character ever.
- Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? – We need more! How does Scott Rolen do at Lawn Darts?
Haven't bowled in years, since college I think. Many 'lowbrow' activities are just as cheap in NYC as anywhere else in the country, but not bowling. It's damn expensive here.
Still,
So what’s your best bowling score?—Took a bowling class in college and broke 200 twice
Anybody ever read Bowling Alone?—No
Good bowling alley food and drink?—Bud Light and hot wings
Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony?—Good group date activity
Shoes: rent or buy?—renting is gross, but buying is lame, unless you’re Mads
‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’?—Never seen either (ok, let me have it)
Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount?—beats stories about offseason workout regimens
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Bowling's pretty expensive anywhere.
At least, anywhere you can’t find an old school bowling alley. Those places can be cheap.
I went bowling in Greensboro once, though, and it certainly wasn’t cheap. The beer wasn’t too terribly expensive, but that’s also true of most places around here…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
The most popular place here
is $10 per person, per game, and beer is $20 a pitcher for crap.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Right, that's super expensive.
Stupid hipsters ruining it for everyone.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
you don't know how right you are
hipsters and rich trust-fund douches
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
You should see 'Kingpins.'
It’s good silly fun. It easily ranks an 8 or 9 out of 10 when it comes to screwball comedies with no true redeeming social value.
‘The Big Lebowksi’ is very good too but it’s not nearly as accessible. If you haven’t seen it yet it may be because it never looked like something you think you’d enjoy. If that’s the case let me tell you how I think you might come to change your mind without even watching it (:
1] Watch ‘Hudsucker Proxy.’
2] Next, watch ‘Raising Arizona.’
3] Finally, watch ‘Barton Fink.’
There. Now you’re either completely bored and exhausted by Coen Brothers films or you’re primed, readied and hankering for whatever it is that ‘The Big Lebowski’ is.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 11, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I'm very acquainted with Coen bros. stuff. I find it very inconsistent, so I might love it, might hate it.
Loved Fargo and O Brother, hated The Ladykillers and No Country for Old Men.
Basically, I didn’t watch that many movies growing up, so there are a lot of classics and cult hits made before 1998 or so that I’ve never seen. It’s definitely on my list.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Add Miller's Crossing to your list too!
And no, I’m not just giving you the high hat.
by Brendanukkah on Mar 12, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Do you have 16# Balls??
* So what’s your best bowling score? 208 twice.. Once as a teen and once the last league I was in 7 or so years ago.
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? Nope.
* Good bowling alley food and drink? Grippos BBQ Chips, Miller Lite.
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? Um.. Not really.
* Shoes: rent or buy? Own. And two 16# balls (one was my dad’s the other my grandfather’s and I still use them..)
* ‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’? Depends on my mood..
* Do you want more of this sort of thing? Absolutely.
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
wow, correct use of the pound symbol
Who are you? Samuel Johnson?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Mar 11, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
* So what’s your best bowling score? Somewhere in the low 180’s
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? Nope
* Good bowling alley food and drink? Food – anything, Drink – beer
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? It’s good as long as you win and the girl has a good time
* Shoes: rent or buy? Rent
* ‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’? Lebowski, and it isn’t close
* Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? I’d like to see Hal take on Aroldis in horseshoes. First one to kill someone wins.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 11, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i bowled almost every weekend in high school
there was an old-school alley downtown above a pizza place. it only had 6 lanes and it didnt have any of those new-fangled computers to do the scoring for you. none of us were really any good, but that didnt stop us from cursing and smoking in public.
- So what’s your best bowling score? i think i got up into the 180s a few times. i rolled a 273 on my Wii though. and everyone knows that counts so much more.
- Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? no
- Good bowling alley food and drink? there was an alley back home that made the absolute worst pizza ive ever tasted. im still not sure if the crust was made of old shoe boxes. it was $10 bucks for like 4 feet though, so we would have contests. and i always prefer to drink a fountain coke at the alley.
- Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? never went on a bowling date
- Shoes: rent or buy? steal
- ‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’? it’s “Kingpin”, and Lebowski is better. though Lebowski isnt really a bowling movie like Kingpin is.
- Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? we’re getting the right amount. i like hearing about this kinda stuff, but frankly i’d rather hear more about baseball. we dont get as much of that as i’d like from our beat guys.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 11, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions
I'm a shit bowler
I might’ve broke 150 once, a while ago. I consider it a good game if I break 100.
I was in Japan on a work project once for several weeks, and for my going away party they took me bowling (Americans love to bowl, right?). Even for me I had terrible game. Didn’t quite reach 50. Everyone beat me. Even the secretaries. It was thoroughly embarrassing, and I got teased mercilessly in ways I could not completely understand. But I redeemed myself at karaoke!
I'm allergic to cats, the Beatles suck, and macs are for people that aren't smart enough to work a computer (or women, take your pick)
- So what’s your best bowling score? 257, freshman year of college I bowled in a league @ Syracuse on Erie Ave
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? I try not to read for college courses, so why the Hell would I read during my free time? My time’s important, damnit!
* Good bowling alley food and drink? I really try to never eat @ a bowling alley, unless I need that stomach sponge to sop up the liquid bread I love to pour down my throat, aka liquid courage or liquid skill
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? Depends on the company really. My wife, and my in-laws are competitive people by nature, so bowling is pretty much a dick measuring or pissing contest. Her step-dad sure can roll, man, and it pisses me off.
* Shoes: rent or buy? I own. It’s how I live my life.
* ‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’? Obviously you’re not a golfer
* Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? Fluff pieces are not welcome by this reader during the season. Who am I kidding, I do not, and arguably cannot read.
Best Alley Food:
Madison Bowl!!! I recommend for lunch, hmmm. Their burgers are very tasty.
All else bowling: I suck, and I didn’t like the carryover from Lebowski into Crazyheart
Cant pass up a bowling thread
High game of 271. Bowling was my nerd sport in high school.
Kingpin is much better than Big Lebowski, hands down.
I think bowling makes for a great date, and I hope that it makes a comeback. As much fun as the bars are, its the same thing everynight. This is still pretty much a bar, but you get to throw stuff and compete!
"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan
by RedinWrigleyville on Mar 11, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions
I'm more of a dog person
Some cats are OK, some are terrible. The same is true of dogs though. jch – I pretty much like your outlook on life.
As for bowling:
* So what’s your best bowling score? 191
* Anybody ever read Bowling Alone? no, haven’t heard of it even
* Good bowling alley food and drink? I don’t want any food at the alley
* Is bowling a good ‘date’ activity or is that just too much forced retro irony? It can be good, depending on your group. It has to be a group though, unless you both happen to be big-time into bowling, maybe.
* Shoes: rent or buy? not gonna buy shoes when I bowl maybe 2-3 times a year, if that
* ‘Kingpins’ or ‘The Big Lebowski’? Kingpin
* Do you want more of this sort of thing Hal can bring us about our boys or are we getting about the right amount? I’d say the right amount. The last thing we need is for the sports arena to become an industry of over-saturation of personal and uninteresting content like it is with the celebrity industry. I rarely find the human interest angles very interesting, honestly.
bowling answers-
254
no
beer
yes
buy
Kingpin
don’t care
An ex-friend of mine once bowled back-to-back 300 games when we bowled on the same team. Pretty impressive. Jerk!
Reds fan for 40 years!
UC loses on a last second shot...
Wait ’til next year.
Gleet:The chronic morbid discharge as from the nostrils of horses.
I was hoping no one here would bring that up.
It hurts.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Bowling
I used to drink. A lot. Problematicly.
So it came time to stop (harder than one may think) and I started hanging out with other people who used to drink, but don’t anymore. They are bowlers. I had no idea what to do with myself, so I went bowling with them. You know what I learned? I don’t care for bowling. Don’t really hate it or anything… just don’t care for it.
As for Kingpin or Lebowski… John Turturro or Randy Quaid.
Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.
-Hilaire Belloc
this has been my favorite fanpost in a long time...
high five
Running out to frontyard laughing! -Fat Vegas Alan
Never get enough bowling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WedMz9HYJgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlBhmde_c2E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl82lxD1n9U&feature=related
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