Cactus League Game 5 Thread: Reds at Angels
by Slyde on Mar 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST
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The Mike Lincoln experiment continues, for some reason. You know, I wish Lincoln all the best and it would be fantastic if he surprised us and deserved to win the spot in the rotation, but does anybody really think that's going to happen?
Also making the trip to Tempe today (according to CNati.com) are Enerio Del Rosario, Mike Leake, Logan Ondrusek, Arthur Rhodes, Philippe-Alexandre Valiquette, Kip Wells, and Travis Wood.
Trevor Reckling is the Angels' top pitching prospect, a spot held this time last year by the late Nick Adenhart. Also expected to pitch are Sean O'Sullivan, Tommy Mendoza, Raphael Rodriguez, Ryan Brasier, and Michael Kohn.
Lineups are after the jump. The game is being carried on Fox Sports West and MLB.tv, so those with those options can watch it. If you have audio, MLB.com is broadcasting it. If none of those options work for you, there is always Gameday.
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Phillips 3rd, Hernandez 5th
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
If it weren’t spring training, I’d be slightly less apathetic.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 10, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Valiquette is a lefty bullpenner, Ondrusek is a towering righty closer type
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by BK on Mar 10, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Aha. Thanks!
Are these the sort of fellows we can look out for in GABP anytime soon, does anyone think?
Ondrusek could be up in 2010, Valiquette sometime in 2011 probably
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Lincoln
or DeSoto, either one. I am not the only person who knows for certain that Lincoln isn’t part of this team’s future. So are we trying to showcase him?
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Hard to polish up an expensive turd.
Too bad, he seems to be an exceptionally nice guy.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Give em just enough rope to hang himself with I say
Del Rosario could take his spot out of spring training easily. I would rather see Viola in that position, but he’s mucked up every chance they give him. Did I miss anyone?
I think what you meant to say was
“Give him tickets to the show and see what happens.”
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On second thought, You got plenty to live for Mike!
Although, auto-erotic asphyxiation is quite tempting…
Janish batting last again
I don’t get it. He’s a shortstop!
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And he's hitting .500!
I’m really rooting for Janish to tear things up. I know he’d never supplant Cabrera out of spring training, but if ever Hanigan, Janish were in the lineup with Heisey or Dickerson in LF, that would be a defensive dream machine.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
If we had a better lineup we could run an all-glove-no-stick shortstop out there.
I’m looking at you, Jay Bruce.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
that's been the consensus here
I think he could even OBP .340-.350, but his biggest drawback, vs. Cabrera, is that he just can’t hit righties. He could probably get on base at a comparable or better rate to O-Cab, but he’s not going to get many extra bases vs RHP and he’s not going to get many extra bases or make good contact.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
is he really that bad against righties?
I find that hard to believe. Players who can’t hit lefties aren’t unusual. But there are so many righties, everyone tends to get a lot of practice against them.
What were his minor league splits?
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Brandon Phillips is horrible against righties
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by nycredsfan on Mar 10, 2010 5:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
horribly mediocre, that is
he’s no Paul Janish, though.
Janish’s splits are here, and yeah…there’s a pretty big gap there
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
interesting
In the first year they have listed, he was actually better against righties. But as he rose through the minors, he got worse and worse against righties. Or maybe better and better against lefties?
I wonder if it’s a sample size thing. Some of his numbers against lefties are just crazy, and likely a fluke.
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I'm kind of hoping that Lincoln is going to knock himself out of the running.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Nice eye by fransisco
Walking after fouling off a couple pitches!!
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by The Crushinator on Mar 10, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions
That's something we need to see more of.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Francisco walked?
It MUST be spring training.
Ramon Hernandez with 2 runners on base. That’s like a guaranteed RBI right there.
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after a failed pickoff attempt
both runners move up. Now 2 runners in scoring position. Ramon is about to feast!
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or not
a weak groundout to first.
I thought he was an RBI guy?!?!?!
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He's trying to give Hanigan a shot...
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Why is the game on MLB.TV but not on audio?
I was going to listen to it since there’s no such thing as streaming video. God I miss functional internet.
I'm watching live on FSW in my office. Awsesomes!
Alonso with his first hit of the year.
Aroldis Chapman stars as...Dr. Chapstick!
Somehow it's letting me gameday audio...
I purchased the 20 dollar package sometime last season. guess some parts carry over. No love on the FSW stream.
Frazier hit by pitch, but in the lower back to the side, so he'll be OK.
Aroldis Chapman stars as...Dr. Chapstick!
Does his head look 3 sizes too small for his helmet too?
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Confusing play.
Stubbs hits a liner to SS, dropped, throw to second for the force, then they get Frazier in a rundown between second and third (since he had to freeze on the line drive in front of him). Frazier is wise enough to stay in the rundown long enough to score a run.
End of inning.
Aroldis Chapman stars as...Dr. Chapstick!
see my last post
Aroldis Chapman stars as...Dr. Chapstick!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 10, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Has Owings pitched yet this year?
Reds fan for 40 years!
I don't recall.
how’d he do?
And much better outing from Lincoln today! He wants to stay and play!
Reds fan for 40 years!
OK - that wasn't there when I typed this question!
Reds fan for 40 years!
Arthur Rhodes into the game now
Lincoln survives two innings unscathed.
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Mark him down for the 5th spot in the rotation.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Angels are pretty deep in the IF
with Aybar, Maicer, Kendrick, Wood and Morales. I can’t believe they used to also have Chone Figgins and Sean Rodriguez.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions
Could it be that BP is working on his plate discipline?
Doesn’t have a hit yet, but I think he’s been walking at least once a game.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 3:54 PM EST reply actions
Mike Leake in the game now
strikes out Erick Aybar to start the inning.
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Leake might have an epic battle with Matsui
Mike Leake was leaning against the dugout rail when I said to him:
"You’re probably big here in Tempe, Mike."
"Yeah, I’m Godzilla."
a 5'10" Godzilla
but still! Godzilla!
(can we get it on tape when Leake and Bailey go clubbing together? It’ll be like Nash and Nowitzki all over again)
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Abreu walks
and Kendry Morales grounds into a double play. Still 1-0 going into the fifth.
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Leake
Coming soon?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions
Oops I meant
to the big leagues. Not OD, but mid-season maybe.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
I know his pro record is still very scant
but everything I’ve seen and heard suggests polish and near-MLB readiness.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind him
over the Maloney and company. Chapman should go down.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's only polite
given how many are ready to do the same to him.
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by Slyde on Mar 10, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Indeed.
Cuban reach-around at the least.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd on contact
This whole tangent has gone Sex Reporter.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Polish, no need for cultural adaption,
more than holding his own in a great college conference, and doing quite well in the fall league.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Without looking
Chapman pitched in the WBC, So that negates any college conference in my regards.
I think he had 20 inning in the AFL, that’s just not enough to determine anything.
I’ll give you the cultural adaption bit, to an extent. The Spaniards are in Cincinnati, So that’s going to be where Chappy is going to be comfortable.
We'll see.
It’s a nice consideration to have.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Chapman didn't do so well in the WBC
He needs to show that he can keep the walks down against professional hitters. Also, with his contract there’s no reason to rush him.
Unless you're seriously contemplating Lincoln as a starter.
Then all bets are off. Chapman is my #5 guy.
Nobody seems to think Wood has a chance...
He’s got the stuff…
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Yes, but how is his grammar?
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Probably fair to say.
He doesn’t have a wealth of experience does he?
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
None in the majors
Yet. I honestly wouldn’t be upset if they rocked Wood til the All-Star Break. That would give the Reds enough time to shave money off Chapman’s contract.
By then, If he’s doing well, you can sell Bronson/Harangatang and keep Wood up. lol.
Maybe you could, but maybe not...
I mean, is anybody buying? Maybe Arroyo.
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Either way
Both contracts are up at the end of 2010. But assuming neither are injured, I can see someone making a run with either of them.
I like how I just assume the Reds are going to fail.
He does indeed.
But I think the org. has it set in their minds that he’s thrown so few innings at the higher levels that he’ll be in Louisville to start. It’s funny from one guy to the next how they are saddled with preset ideas on development.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Poland and the US more different than you realize
But I agree, the Reds didn’t take Leake just so he would go down on the bush league when he’s already had a taste of stiffer competition. He might start mouthing off like Homer Bailey if they don’t thrust him in with the big boys soon at the backend of the rotation.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I guess theres one question that hasnt been answered
What does Leake need to work on before he gets a cup of coffee?
So without extending Harang and Arroyo, the Reds' 2011 rotation looks like this:
1. Volquez
2. Chapman
3. Cueto
4. Bailey
5. Leake or Wood
I know we’ve talked about this before (though surprisingly not to the point of overkill) but I just like typing that and reading it.
Quick, someone else do it with Brandon Webb at the top. I like that too!
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
I like it.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
How often do pitchers successfully come back from TJ surgery?
Isn’t he still a pretty big question mark at this point?
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
You owe someone an apostrophe.
Quit hogging!
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
According to the ever-reliable wikipedia
In 2009, chances of a complete recovery after surgery are estimated at 85 to 92 percent
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
"I'm not an encyclopedia. I just play one on the internet."
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I usually read it in French.
Bullshit just sounds more pleasant that-a way.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Za Vickapeeja
Damn. Your’e right.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
I see you're hiding your apostrophes in unexpected places
To keep them safe from Excalib8.
by Brendanukkah on Mar 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What choo smokin'?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
They say it's a gateway drug
But I’ve honestly never tried anything else. I drink a beer or two every so often, but never enough to get sloppy drunk. Weed makes my personality much easier to deal with, Otherwise I’m kinda spastic.
I found everything to be a gateway
because I’m a degenerate.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Like Ellen?
Oh, wait…
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
by kazahani on Mar 10, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well,
we have similar appetites.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
what does Ellen think of grape compote on a burger?
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
That was just supposed to be sexual innuendos
But yeah, it looks pretty GD good. With the proviso that, with the exception of Volquez, none of those guys has put forward a full season of sub-4.00 ERA in the majors. And Volquez has done it once, before he underwent TJ surgery. Extending-restructuring with Harang or Arroyo – or signing someone like Webb – might be necessary if these guys don’t come along quickly. But if they’re good as advertised, that’s at least 3, if not 4, young, cost-controlled pitchers with #1 starter upside. Holy hell.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I got it
and CUMB’d
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by nycredsfan on Mar 10, 2010 5:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And also
What happens if Wood sticks in the majors while everyone else comes along? I could see Cueto or Wood being flipped for a SS or C in a year.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Heard some people compare him to Glavine...
Don’t really know how valid that is.
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Leake, that is
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Dunno about that
Leake’s not a lefty, for starters. Matt Maloney is jokingly compared to Glavine, as are most junk-tossing lefties that show any amount of competence.
I think it's because
of the lack of dazzling stuff but able to keep hitters off balance with pitches consistently placed just out of reach.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
um, his fastball moves like a drunk slider
and that’s pretty dazzling.
Wood’s a better Glavine comp. But then, shit, so was Steve Avery.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
So in other words,
it’s a pretty base comparison.
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Why thank you!
I linked here earlier today and noticed that everyone had genuinely intelligent things to say.
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Just wait.
You won’t feel that way for long.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I don't know...
I’m marvelous when it comes to self-delusion!
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
So you've had no trouble being a Reds fan for the pat ten years!
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
wink
grin
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Nice.
I prefer emoticons to be spelled out as well.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Running out to frontyard laughing!
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Smiling with a little tear and one eye winking
as I murder a cat.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
this became my sig because i cannot stop rofl'ing
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use the sidewalk or you'll kill the grass.
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Excalib8 is gonna be pissed
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Do the Reds "rule" or just "rock?"
The stirring expose at 9 / 8 central.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I love that they're playing baseball again
I just felt the need to post that.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
So since I'm moderating at Cincy Jungle now, I can see who rec'd me and when!
So fun. Mhm.
by Jake Liscow on Mar 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
somebody rec'd you?
that’s weird.
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by Slyde on Mar 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that's what they call "becoming a man"
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by BK on Mar 10, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd 'im? - - -damn near killed 'im!
Reds fan for 40 years!
Just givin' you a little thrill.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
BTW
Reds still lead 1-0 through 6.5 innings. Both teams have just 2 hits.
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Spring training fever!
Catch it!
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by BK on Mar 10, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
And here’s a nice reference to stimulate further banter.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 10, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Are Dickerson and Gomes getting a rest today?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST reply actions
sorry to jump the gun on tomorrow's reposter
but this is hilariously preposterous…
http://redlegnation.com/2010/03/10/you-wont-believe-this-one/
this should be a fanshot.
Sonny my pitched my wild
Damn I wish FJM was still alive
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Holy balls, that is awful
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by BK on Mar 10, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
The author of that article has an @aol.com email address...
’Nuff said.
No degree of prosperity can be sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Bill Conlin is a dinosaur
Easily the worst sportswriter that I’m even vaguely familiar with. This line:
And ponder this . . . Has any non-expansion team ever had the three best players in franchise history at the same time? The closest I could come was Roy Campanella, Jackie Robinson and Duke Snider from Brooklyn’s Boys of Summer.
Is absurd. He obviously means “the three best at their position,” but that’s not what’s written.
like they said on RLN
I’m amazed that he missed Rose, Morgan, and Perez since they all played on a Phillies team that went to the World Series, so at least he should be familiar with them.
One commenter thinks Morgan vs. Utley is a toss up (and he gives the edge to Utley). I love Utley as much as anybody, but he ain’t in Joe Morgan.
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Right, the '83 "Wheeze Kids"
Mentioning the ‘70s Dodgers IF without discussing the BRM? Conlin’s just an idiot.
I think Morgan has maybe 5 seasons better than Utley's best
partly contingent on how much you weight defense and baserunning. 72-76 are untouchable for a secondbaseman.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. His recall is dull and his writing is withered.
…a modern era that began in 1947 when Jack Roosevelt Robinson kicked down the door that had barred players of color from the major leagues.
Branch Rickey might have done some ‘kicking’ but Jackie Robinson is always spoken of as being gracious, dignified, humble etc…
Poorly chosen metaphor.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
what tends to suck a lot
… is that every homerist scribe is quick to establish that somebody else was ’roiding. Sure, Palmeiro was juicing. Sure, ARod was juicing … but naturally our guys are on the up and up.
The baseball-bat collision is violent and involves large forces which act over a very short time and which compress the ball to a fraction of its normal size. -- Alan M. Nathan
Corky Miller RBI Double
Ramon who?
rofl…
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The Reds are ripping the ball this inning
’tis fun!!!
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The backup QB is always the most popular guy to the fans
Or backup LF, or backup C, or backup 3B, etc…
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
Hits keep coming
Reds up 6-0 now! Six hits and a walk to start the 8th, still no outs
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Listening to the away broadcast really makes me appreciate our announcers...
<3 marty
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3 quick outs-
-but still… 6-0!
Reds fan for 40 years!
With the possible exception of Balentien
Not one of the 9 hits have come from someone who figures to be a regular on the MLB squad this year.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 5:14 PM EST reply actions
How many big league regulars started today?
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Stubbs, Phillips, Hernandez, Bruce
+ Janish, Heisey, Francisco, Alonso, Frazier
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Stubbs, Phillips, Hernandez, Bruce
And Heisey, who is still in the race, at least nominally.
Balentien came off the bench.
Bench guys: Janish started and Sutton PH.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what the odds are of Wilkin making the team?
Dusty’s already gone on record saying he’s open to carrying 3 catchers. I don’t think it’s a terrible idea as Wilkin can play the IF, but he doesn’t have the same upside as Sutton.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 5:28 PM EST reply actions
I will buy a round of pickles
if Wells strikes out the side…
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by Excalib8 on Mar 10, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Dusty's Reactions to Leake's proformance?
“That’s why he’s a No. 1 draft choice and No. 2, that’s why he’s a going to be a very good pitcher”
"And three is the magic number."
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
"And four is how many pheasants I'm planning on catching tomorrow morning"
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Mar 10, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
"And five is how many catchers we're planning on carrying on the 25-man roster"
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
"Six is right out."
(Works better for five, but crolfer got here first!)
by the finest muffins on Mar 10, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Look like it was a very good pitching day
and the hitting wasn’t too bad either. So who got the hits, I know they didn’t start, but did BP and Votto get any playing time/hits?
BP started
He got a walk. No sign of Votto.
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When Alonso got the 2 errors the other day
I wondered if he was really retaining how to play the positions he’s graduating from. Something tells me Baker had that exact notion.
Thanks for the info
BP must have a better opinion of OBP or something, he is starting to walk more (I think it is only two games, but it’s a start!). I’m still waiting for the hits though!
HIts will come
I think we know what to expect from BP. Though in the best case scenario, he’s adjusting his plate approach and will start picking pitches to drive and not wallop over the fence. Maybe bring up his OBP and SLG, though shaving off some HRs.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 10, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
He's been in camp in all week and you just now get around to this analysis?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
That's it
I’m writing a personally-motivated broadside about your bad attitude in Cincinnati’s paper of record!
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 11, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
If we are the same exact Reds team as last year...
except we have Rolen instead of Encarnacion and Cabrera instead of Janish/Hairston/whomever, how many games do you think we will improve? 12? 15? That should put us squarely in third place. We need a little something more to get us over the hump.
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you might find
this post of interest.
Let’s just say your assessment is likely overly optimistic.
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Define 'hump.'
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hump = division win or wildcard.
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Well then, 2010 is foreplay.
And 82 wins is third base. We miiiiight get there.
We’ll start humpin’ next March.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
we might also
be worse than last year.
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Hey!
Did you mean to post this over on some Yankee site?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 10, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
nope
The Yankees almost certainly will be worse than last year. Nowhere to go but down, y’know?
But look at JinAZ’s numbers. He came up with 73 wins. That’s worse than last year.
And last year, he predicted 86 wins, and we got 78. So it’s not that he’s a pessimist.
I’m afraid I really don’t see this team contending until 2011. I hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see that there’s much improvement over last year.
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I think it's also possible that projection
is nearly as reliable as we’d like to think, especially for teams like the Reds. PECOTA was broken last year, but has had some pretty striking success in the past. It has the Reds taking second place in the central this year. Which system is to be believed?
I think JinAZ does amazing work, but both his and PECOTA’s numbers missed the mark for the Reds last year. In all likelihood, the Reds won’t be in the race at the end of the summer, but there’s rampant uncertainty. In my mind Bruce could do anything from .230/.310/.450 to .300/.370/.530. Stubbs could hit 15 HR, steal 25 bases and OBP .350 or he could hit 2 HRs and turn into Taveras. Bailey, Cueto and whoever is in the 5-spot are similarly volatile. The curve is just too wide, in my mind to say anything other than they won’t take the NL Central.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
*"isn't nearly as reliable"
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 11, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
The "difference" is that the younger players are a year older.
For the first half of the last decade, all the Reds needed to do was let the young studs come up and get better. But all kinds of crap happened, Bob Boone was hired, Deion resurfaced, veteran trash was hired . . . and Kearns, Dunn . . . Pokey . . . it didn’t work out.
Maybe there wasn’t enough young talent back then. But now, we have more young talent with major league experience than we’ve seen in the last 30 years. Dont’ mess with it. Let it get better. It will, as long as they don’t screw with it thinking that Mike Lincoln is the magic ingredient.
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Whoever that is, thinks that Fred Lewis will be cut. Via mlbtraderumors. I’m lazy.
A lot of players are cut at the end of spring training who are far better than most of the losers we sign during the off season. This is why signings of hacks like Kip Wells in the beginning or middle of winter drive me nuts.
Anyway, I’m not a crazy Fred Lewis fan, but he seems like a guy Dusty would love to play everyday, and he’s also kinda good. This is a guy who, at 29, could still have a quality career. Or it could waste away for no reason. Like Matt Murton.
If we didn’t have 32 viable options for left field, would you be interested?
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