RR Community Prospect Rankings: The Final List
It's been a long process, but your prospect list for 2010 is finally in the books. Here it is, in all of its glory, and for comparison, nyc and I created our own lists as well that we'll post here as well. The 5 honorable mention spots are who got the most votes that didn't make the final list, over the last 4 days of voting.
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Also, nyc and I decided to take a look a few prospects that may be on this list next year, but didn't make this year's list. Bonus scouting reports after the jump.
Henry Rodriguez, SS:
Signed as a non-drafted free agent out of Venezuela. Reportedly plays good defense at SS, and should have the range and arm to stick there. Hit .327/.354/.427 as a 19 year old in the GCL last season. Doesn't walk much yet, but makes excellent contact. Very good speed and a good baserunner. Definitely has the tools, if he can continue to develop at the plate and maintain his SS defense, could be a good prospect to watch going forward.
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed in 2009 out of Venezuela
Highest Level Played: Rookie (GCL Reds)
2009 Statistics:
GCL Reds (Rookie): 41 G, 150 AB, 1 HR, 19 RBI, 9 SB, .327/.354/.427/.781
Brian Pearl, RHRP:
The Reds 9th round pick out of Washington is a promising RH relief prospect, who was rated on the BA Top 200 list at draft time. His professional debut was very solid, with a 43 strikeouts in 28 2/3 innings, for over 13 Ks per 9 innings. He can work in the mid 90s with his fastball, and has been known to hit 96, but consistency will be his biggest issue. Also throws a slider with potential. Should be an integral part of the Dayton bullpen this season, and could get some saves and move up quickly from there.
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 9th round (269th pick), Reds, 2009
Highest Level Played: Rookie (Billings)
2009 Statistics:
Billings (Rookie): 20 G, 1-0, 8 SV, 3.77 ERA, 28.2 IP, 43 K, 10 BB, 1.43 WHIP
Mark Fleury, C:
Drafted in the 4th round of last year's draft out of University of North Carolina. Solid catcher with well developed defensive skills. Struggled a bit in 39 games in Billings this season, but his peripherals (10% BB rate, .184 ISO power) indicate he was unlucky. Should start in Dayton or Lynchburg this season. With his already good defensive skills, if he can show more consistent offense he could be a good catching prospect.
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 4th round (119th pick), Reds, 2009
Highest Level Played: Rookie (Billings)
2009 Statistics:
North Carolina (NCAA): 66 G, 243 AB, 12 HR, 60 RBI, 1 SB, .309/.404/.560/.964
Billings (Rookie): 39 G, 131 AB, 4 HR, 17 RBI, 0 SB, .198/.284/.382/.666
Jacob Johnson, RHSP:
Listed most places by his given name "Harold", but goes by Jacob. He usually works around 90 with the fastball, but since big guy at 6'4", 215, scouts project he'll pick up more velocity. Throws a slider and curveball, but neither are assets at this point. Doesn't have overpowering stuff, but gets a lot of ground balls and keeps the ball in the ballpark. Still a very raw talent.
Age: 19
Draft/Acquisition Details: 11th round (329th pick), Reds, 2009
Highest Level Played: Rookie (GCL Reds)
2009 Statistics:
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Pretty good lists...
Hopefully they’re more Joey Votto than Brandon Larson.
by DocRam on Feb 9, 2010 8:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Linked to this yesterday, but
Project Prospect released their top 50 prospects over the weekend.
Alonso is 17, Leake 20, Chapman 32, Frazier 33, and Heisey 39. The Reds are the only team with 5 guys on the list. Cleveland is the only team with 4. A bunch of teams have 1 or none.
PP is higher on Leake and Heisey than pretty much everyone else, but still, it’s a good testament to the strength of the system.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
I'm not
People don’t seem to be as high on Chapman as the Reds are. Which is, I guess, why they’re the ones who signed him.
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if #32 is "not as high" as the Reds see him
im ok with that.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 9, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think that ranking accurately describes his super high ceiling
as well as the significant question marks surrounding him. (Although I think people outside of the organization have more questions about him than the Reds at this point)
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
we all picked Chapman as the #1 prospect
But they have him behind Alonso and Leake, and almost tied with Frazier.
Pretty striking difference, IMO.
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projectprospect is WAY higher on Leake than any other rankings
Kind of the same with Frazier. You probably won’t find either guy in any other top 50s. IMO, Alonso/Chapman is a toss up as to who is #1-2. I picked Chapman out of optimism.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
i dont know
these top 50 or top 100 or top whatever lists arent that precise. all of these guys are within 22 spots of each other. i’d say that means the talent difference between them is not all that significant, which i think is what most of us would say as well. personally, im not as high on Heisey as PP is, but i wont argue with them :)
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 9, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
project prospect
Puts more emphasis on floor than ceiling. Leake and frazier are safe bets.
by Snake the Jake on Feb 9, 2010 5:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also, some good stuff from the chat that is on the page:
My fantasy team hopes Todd Frazier can stick at 2B but do you see it happening?
I like Frazier’s odds of sticking at second more than Ackley’s. I’ve heard some good reports on Frazier being good enough on D to stick at second. I’ll give him a 50% chance of staying there right now — 10% for Ackley :).
Chris Heisey’s production is hard to argue with, but what do you think of his swing? How soon will he be ready for the majors?
Steve Carter loves Heisey’s swing. He describes it as “one that cannot be taught” in the Digital Prospect Guide. Heisey could win a job out of camp with the Reds. He has the bat speed, plate approach and defensive ability to turn into an average or better regular. We loved what we saw out of him at the AFL — and I went in as a bit of a skeptic.
Love the list! Couple of cincy reds questions: What do you project from Alonso and Heisey this year? What would you do with the Votto- Alonso situation (1b, LF, trade)?
Heisey is a guy who has really impressed me. He changed his load a little bit, and the quickness in his change of direction is outstanding. He’s got really pure hitters actions that you can’t teach, and guys with those type actions usually just go up and rake. Like Adam said, he’s a bit older, but he could be average this year and get better with more experience.
Alonso won’t ever hit 35, but he’s solid bet to get to 25 or a little more in his prime. His approach plays well in that ballpark, and he’s a very solid floor guy. If I were the Reds I’d do what Adam said, put Votto in LF and Alonso at 1B. With those 2 and Bruce, that’s 3 pretty legit young left handed options in the same lineup.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
that makes me want to see Heisey get a shot more than ever
Please, pass on old, broken-down Johnny Damon.
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As much young pitching as we've brought in to the rotation
in the past 2 seasons, it’s fantastic to see 2 starters with top of the rotation potential rated so highly on the prospect lists.
People, please. We're all frightened and horny, but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring
yep
I like the pitching strategy of getting a large number of mid-to-high upside pitchers and hoping that a couple of them stick. It’s sort of what the Braves have done for the last 20 years. Hopefully we’ve got a couple of HoFers in there.
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"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Ten years ago, the Reds traded for Junior
Oh, what could have been.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Ten Years ago TODAY
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Ah, memories. Remember this feeling?

by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and this one?

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
booooo
Is that the time he hurt himself rounding third? I was at that game, sitting on the third base line. It was sort of scary.
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure that's the one
He went down like he had been shot. I wanna say I remember someone saying they heard the pop when the hamstring came off the bone.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
no idea how many times i heard that...
by justin007000 on Feb 11, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Also, why are there no Denny's in Cincinnati?
I want a free grand slam breakfast today, but I’m not driving to Dayton to get it.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
wha..??
There used to be Denny’s in Cincinnati! I remember, because my parents were boycotting them for a while when I was little (can’t remember why). What happened to the one at Northgate?
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Dunno
I just did a search on their site and the only one that came up was in Dayton. I hope you’re right, I’m going back to check.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Dangit.....Dayton or Lexington are my only choices
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
about 10 years ago Denny's closed all their Cincinnati area resturants
by justin007000 on Feb 9, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
ten years ago TODAY
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 9, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Interesting...
Ken Griffey comes to Cincinnati, Denny’s leaves. Coincidence?
(Except not really. I definitely went to a Denny’s in 2001.)
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
oh, I know.
I was responding to the “ten years ago TODAY” thing.
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
yes, it did! I graduated high school, moved out, started college, went on a space odyssey...
Oh, were you talking about 9/11?
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he didn't leave, exactly
He was traded to New York for prospects, including crappy Drew Henson.
I wondered how long it would take someone to make a Neagle reference.
Way to rise to the occasion!
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
also an American Spy plane landed in China
2001 was a year for headlines without 9/11.
by justin007000 on Feb 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
It was also the first of the Reds 9 consecutive losing seasons
Awesome year, that 2001.
by the finest muffins on Feb 10, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I was in Middle School at the time
so it naturally sucked even without the local and global events.
by justin007000 on Feb 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
My niece was in then too
What was your highest rank..where you stationed on 9/11 ?
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well, don't take my word for it
The last time I went to that one was in high school. Between Denny’s and the Junior trade, you’re really taking me back.
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
There used to be (at least) three Denny's in Dayton
Now, the only one that I know of is the one by Miami Valley Hospital, across from the Fairgrounds. Local band the Spoo Monkeys (whose bass player went on to teach my brother Latin) referenced it in a song about having to pee, noting that the Denny’s was now a Grand China Buffet (“…the hell?”).
How old are you?
They were probably boycotting because of this
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
That's Racist!
No, really. It is.
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I got really upset at the commercial
all the talk of “Hey! These chickens better watch out!” and none of the two types of pig meat? For shame, for shame.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Any love for Matt Fairel?
LHSP was strong at Dayton and at Sarasota last season, although the K rate didn’t hold up as well when he made the jump to Hi-A. The Reds paid him $250,000 out of Florida State. Could be an interesting one to watch.
Any thoughts, Doug? Anyone?
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by Thundering Turtle on Feb 9, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions
Don't have a great scout report on him,
but he’s a 35th round pick who did pretty well as a 21 year old in low A, then when he moved up to high A struggled a bit more against guys his age, in an extreme pitcher’s league no less.
As a 22 y.o. this year, I’d like to see him dominate Lynchburg and/or do well in Carolina if he’s going to be a legit prospect. As a lefty he’ll get every chance to succeed at starting, and not that he can’t do it, but to me he needs to show something at a higher level.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
I think he's a definite sleeper this year.
He had a good year at Dayton, but his FIP was over a run difference than his ERA and that showed up when he got to Sarasota. He strikes me at the kind of guy that with a solid year, could end up a 3-level mover like Matt Klinker last year, a guy that the organization won’t hold back as long as he’s pitching well. You’re right though, he’s definitely a good name to watch.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
His stuff
upper 80s fastball, very good breaking ball
I guess he used to throw harder. If he could get his FB into the low 90s he’d be a much better prospect. Also, for me, if he’s only going to K 5-6 batters per 9, I’d like to see him walk fewer than 3 per 9.
Like BK said, he’s a guy to watch this year. With a very good performance I could see him become another Matt Maloney type, if he can improve his control.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Scouting reports around draft time had him in the low-mid 90s, but he hasn't been able to replicate that in the minors
That’s not a great sign. I think the general consensus here is that we need to see more consistency with the numbers (and the stuff) before he makes these types of lists.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Admit it...
like Matt Klinker last year
another Matt Maloney type
You guys are just saying this because his name’s Matt.
by the finest muffins on Feb 9, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
He's also a Matt Damon type
How do you like them apples?
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
he woulda signed for 2years/$14 million
acourse, he never would left Boston.
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Fairel & Barnhart
IMHO
1 – I think Matt Fairel is as much a prospect as Sulbaran
2 – Barnhart is a sleeper pick not mentioned above, which is a bit surprising because picks 1-9 & 11 from the 2009 drafted are mentioned or listed somewhere in the OP. Barnhart was drafted out of high school with a 10th round selection, yet rated out and was paid at a 4th round talent level. The switch-hitting catcher who can handle himself both offensively and defensively. Some scouts are concerned about his size and are guessing that he’ll end up at another position (like 2B) by the time he reaches the majors.
The last scouting report was going to be either Barnhart or Fleury, and we decided that we liked Fleury a bit better
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
particularly since Barnhart is a HS player and signed so late
HS catchers are extremely tough to gauge. After this season we’ll have a much better read on him.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
4th round - Fleury
By saying he was the last scouting report, do you feel the Reds over drafted Fleury? Or that his small minor league sample drops him below other 2009 draftees?
I don't think drafting a college hitter who OPSed .964 in the 4th round is overdrafting at all
But a lot of the other 09 draftees have higher ceilings or accomplished more in their time than Fleury did. As a college hitter, he needs to start replicating what he did at UNC if he wants to be a legit prospect in this organization. (More on this topic to come next week.) Plus, we tried to put up equal amounts of hitters and pitchers, and the 09 draft was very pitcher heavy near the top, as there was already more hitting prospects in the organization, whether it be from prior drafts of the international market.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin

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