Red Reposter - Jay Bruce is kind of a big Deal around here
by ken on Feb 8, 2010 9:00 AM EST
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- Bruce learns from bout with adversity
Mark Sheldon reports on Jay Bruce's offseason and how he's dealt with a frustrating 2009.
Electing not to play winter ball and make up at-bats from the 57 games he missed last year, Bruce instead went home to Beaumont, Texas, and decompressed. Eventually, he resumed lifting weights, running, throwing and -- beginning about a month ago -- hitting. The wrist has passed all of the tests, and there is nothing holding back Bruce in his workouts. "It's felt fine and like [the injury] never happened," Bruce said. "I've had no pain; it's nonexistent. For a little bit, when I came back, it was still tight, but it's fine now."
Good to hear.
Sheldon also reports that Gomes' return remains up in air. As Turtle noted, MLB trade rumors is reporting that Gomes may sign with Cleveland. - Diamond Hoggers interviews Zizzy Mane
Zizzy Mane, a hip-hop musician, grew up playing little league with Jay Bruce. The two have stayed in touch and Bruce has selected Zizzy's track "The Deal" for his at-bat music this year. Zizzy talks about his and Jay's favorite artists and tells some Bruce stories from little league. Definitely worth a listen, especially if you're a music fan. - END devours Mexican pitching, plates 3 runs
Juan Francisco went 3 for 3 with an opposite-field HR and a sac fly in leading DR to a 7-2 win over Mexico on Saturday. It's great to see this as END had struggled in the first four games, hitting .188 with 1 double. He's also had 3 errors. Former (?) Red Kevin Barker also hit a HR (!) for the DR (!!). Yesterday, DR won the series with a 7-4 win over Venezuela. END added another 3 RBIs to give him 6 for the final two games. -
Fayplacement: Embarrassing moment
Fayplacement Nick Hurn recounts a moment he'd like back from RedsFest: The elevator doors open, Davis enters, Bruce enters and I follow. I’m halfway in when I trip over Bruce’s size 50 shoe and stumble directly into Davis. My first conversation with Davis, one of my favorite players of all-time went something like this: (Trip, stumble into Davis) Davis: Have you been drinking? Me: No, Jay Bruce has really big feet and I’m a small guy. I tripped …. Davis: Are you sure you haven’t been drinking? (Laughter) (Silence) (Elevator doors open). - The Atlantic - Where Have You Gone, Jim Merritt?
Andrew Cohen watches Game 5 of the '70 WS on the MLB Network and decides to contact Jim "Got Nothing" Merrit, the losing pitcher for the Reds that game, for an interview. Cohen did not get a response. Just a strange column/blog post from a guy mostly known as a legal reporter for CBS. - C. Trent catches up with Glenn Braggs
Braggs reminisces about the 1990 team. While most fans ask Braggs about the bat-breaking in the World Series, I'll always remember him for the the homer-robbing catch in the LCS against Pittsburgh. -
Red Letter Daze talks to Cuban baseball writer Peter Bjarkman
Since we've gone far too long without an Aroldis Chapman story. This guy isn't terribly high on Chapman, but I don't agree with this assessment below:
Is he a good risk in the abstract? Certainly, because he can throw 100 mph. But if you are comparing the risk to the $30 million he received, or to Stephen Strasburg, the No. 1 overall pick of the Nationals in last year’s draft, then no. I don’t think you want to risk that kind of money on any pitcher who hasn’t thrown a single inning in professional baseball and who could blow his arm out tomorrow.
Of course, Stephen Strasburg also hadn't faced professional competition when he was drafted. That's the nature of the draft and international signings - you're taking guys on their potential. You can't select those players based on a robust track record against other professionals because it doesn't exist. And while there's an injury risk inherent with any pitcher, Bjarkman concedes that Chapman hasn't had an injuries in the past 3 years. All that said, there are plenty of interesting first-hand observations about Chapman's stuff and control that are worht the read. - MLB on FOX Unveils 2010 Broadcast Schedule
The Reds will not make any appearances. My NL Central tally: Cardinals - 8; Cubs - 8; Brewers - 4; Astros - 2; Pirates - 0.
This year FOX will feature a couple of prime time games instead of the normal afternoon-only schedule. BizofBaseball also reports that there's still no word on whether the blackout policy will remain the same for the prime time games. Fans naturally hate the blackouts, but it would be particularly maddening if an afternoon game is blacked out because of a 7 p.m. prime time game. - Pitt. Post-Gazette - Thanks for Nutting
I'd say public opinion is stacked against Pittsburgh owner Bob Nutting. Pittsburgh's major newspaper implores Nutting to sell his team already in the wake of rumors that Mario Lemieux has made an offer: [B]y selling the team you can finally deliver on your promise of producing a winner, and probably years ahead of schedule. You would become an overnight sensation, Pittsburgh's newest baseball hero. It's worth thinking about. (HT to Big League Stew). Meanwhile, the Astros appear to be off the table. - D.C. Sports Bog - Adam Dunn on 1B, MMA
Entertaining copy as always from my favorite ex-Red. Dunn admits to being a chatterbox at times when playing first: "Depends who it is," he said. "I've got my buddies, and we've got a lot of things to talk about. Other people, I have no idea what to talk about. For instance, say Brian McCann was over there, I would probably make some sort of fat joke, something like that. I would talk to David Wright about how he can't hit homers any more. It depends." Also, Nyjer Morgan calls Dunn "Freddie Physical." (HT to Big League Stew)
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zizzy mane seems like a huuuuge douche...
dumb name. cool interview—too bad i couldn’t have just read a transcript so i wouldn’t have to listen to that douchenozzle wax arrogant for 30 minutes.
“he keeps the boat afloat, mannnn…”
“basically anything on top 40 radio, i’m rockin’ it.”
“rap-sodie” instead of “rhapsody”…
horribly awkward goodbye. that was hilarious.
i’m actually really jealous because my music career won’t even touch his… fml
Sonny my pitched my wild
is Zizzy his name?
or a description of his haircut?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
i think it's the sound his butthole makes when he bends over to fart lightning
Sonny my pitched my wild
by GrooveLeg on Feb 8, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I almost
clicked on this to get a sample of Zigg’s mellow tones but after last night’s awe-inspiring show by Pete Townshend, I feel so …. yeah, I think OLD is pretty much what these guys are. Maybe we should just go vinyl. In any event, Ziggy’s music will go unheard in my home.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
i was waiting for the line
but they didn’t play My Generation.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Every time I see this picture, I want to hit Zizzy Mane in the mouth
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
That is one ugly beard, Mr. Dunn
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Ouch, from the Dunn article
“Everything’s looking up,” he said. “They’re doing everything they can. Before where I was, I didn’t feel like they did everything they could to get better every year. Just one offseason on this team, they’ve done a lot of things to straighten out a lot of our problems….It wasn’t that we kept running out bad players. If guys weren’t getting the job done, whooo, they were out of here. They’re trying to get all the right pieces.”
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
he's obviously referring to arizona.
Sonny my pitched my wild
by GrooveLeg on Feb 8, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Yeah, I sure wish I was a Nats fan right now.
I understand what he’s saying, but the Nats are still a ways from not sucking.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
whoa, adam
Lucky for the Nats, the team straightened out its problems. Otherwise, they’d be pushing .500 and, as we Reds fans are fond of reminding ourselves, there is nothing worse than being lumped in there as “average.”
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
and of course, this ...
… insightful comment.
We roll around and learn stuff," Dunn explained. “It’s all on-the-ground stuff, it’s all positioning. It’s more of an endurance thing. It’s a workout, bro, it’s hard. That’s kind of why I do it.”
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
The Reds from 2003-2008 were a big pile of suck?
Um, I knew this. You knew this. Dunn knew this. This is not news.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I know I'm not alone on this one but
I really don’t care about Gomes. My opinion is that we have, what, 42 guys ready to compete for the LF job.? Each of them is capable of playing equivalent or better defense and provide similar offensive numbers for a significantly lower price. Just sayin.’
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 8, 2010 10:34 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
is Wladdy Balentien capable of doing this?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
right
but the point is, the Reds dont need Jonny Gomes on this team to be an outfielder. they obviously have plenty of those. the Reds need Jonny Gomes to be an enforcer. the Reds need Jonny Gomes to be a leader. the Reds need Jonny Gomes because he has heart.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
i didn't mean to make a statment with that picture, i just think it's funny.
i like gomes. he can hit and i would love to have him on the team in a regular platoon with dickerson and a big bat off the bench.
but i think i would rather us move on since he doesn’t appear to be in our plans.
Sonny my pitched my wild
I don't know about himbeing out of the picture until he signs elswhere
I would love to have him for all the same reasons as Scrabbles and Brendan and because I would not be surprised to see a career out of Gomes in 2010…
But I think he’s a terrible bench guy. He doesn’t PH well and he not a defensive replacement, he can’t pinch run or bunt. Either he plays all the time or don’t go after him.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
i'm kinda with you, but i don't think he'll end up with us anyway.
i like gomes’ potential and i’d love to see what he can do with more PAs, but i don’t think he’s going to ink with the reds on a minor league deal when he’ll probably get offered a better deal elsewhere.
Sonny my pitched my wild
I think he wants the chance to play everday
and I don’t think the Reds will give him that guarantee, nor should they.
I think Wlad, Heisey, Dickerson would all provide more value this season.
I’d like to have him back as a platoon partner with Dickerson or a 4-5th outfielder, but any more than that shouldn’t happen.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
gomes
The guy is decent trade bait.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
For what?
What could you get for Gomes? The team’s biggest need is for a right handed power bat in LF…provided that the pitching is good as we all hope it will be…if esp. Harang returns to form
CF Stubbs (backed by Dickerson)
SS Orlando Cabrera (backed by Jannish)
1B Joey (Backed by Miles)
2b BP (Miles)
3b Rolen (END)
LF Gomes (Wlad)
RF (Nix)
C Hernia/Hanigan
Plus you have the potential of a Frazier or Hi-Z making the team – Methinks that IF they can sign Gomes then the trade bait is Wlad or END for another young pitcher.Androidis ain’t gonna make it this year…
Just sayin’
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
OK, so trade Wlad or the man from Mad
Gomes is also trade bait. Crap, everybody is trade bait.
Except ………….
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
oh yeah????
Sonny my pitched my wild
by GrooveLeg on Feb 8, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Prospect related link
Project Prospect’s top 50 list is out.
Alonso is 17, Leake is 20, Chapman is 32, Frazier is 33, and Heisey is 39.
Not a bad showing at all. No guys in the top 15, but the Reds are the only team with 5 guys on the list. Cleveland is the only team with 4.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
great list
i must not be high enough to see the rankings
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
by obc2 on Feb 8, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
But I can't see them either.
So much for your theory. :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
wow, epic link fail
I’m teaching kids about Reggae this week.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
I'm inclined to agree
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
on a side note
I can’t understand anything he says in that video
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Two notes
The Cohen column on Jim Merritt proves that the lamest of uptown geeks can produce a “baseball” story every so often to impress the “secretaries” at lunch. This is an attempt to show ‘em he’s as clever as George Will, though I can’t estrangilibite why I think that.
And the Pirates thing is so stupid as to be typically Pittsboner. Why does this columnist think LeMeaueaxeax’s management team is so much smarter than the blithering donuts who run it now? Try to think “banker” when reorganizing the “banking” structure.
Carry on.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
In defense of the newspaper,
Lemieux saved the Penguins from leaving Pittsburgh through some very creative financing and bankruptcy lawyering. When the team filed for bankruptcy in the ‘90s he was one of their largest creditors on account of his contract. He proposed to convert his salary into equity and became an owner, which was approved by the team and the court. I imagine that he would have a lot of the same advisors on board if he were to buy the Pirates. He’s not a business naif.
What Pittsburgh really needs is an owner that cares about the team and won’t simply pocket the revenue sharing $$. I’m not informed enough about the team’s current situation to say that’s the case, but the paper seems to think so. Lemiux certainly has passion for the community to go along with his business acumen. The other obvious candidate is Mark Cuban, but he hasn’t talked about buying a team in a while.
by ken on Feb 8, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
with that info, then Lemoo the Pinguino would seem a fair contender for the team.
I don’t know muchabout Cuban although he seems to want to be fairly high-profile. I don’t know why that bothers me other than it smacks of showtime, no substance. I don’t get the sense the MLB is all that fond of the Cuban.
I know he made some fairly obvious guest appearances in Chicago when the Cubbos were on the block.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
good batch of links today
BTW, anyone have an ESPN Insider subscription?
I want to know why Tim Kurkjian thinks Johnny Damon should sign with the Reds. But not enough to actually whip out my credit card.
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GrooveLeg
I deleted your comment, just because I don’t think we should be copying and pasting complete articles from behind pay walls.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
I don’t want that. I was just hoping for a brief summary.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Here's a quick rundown
The Reds need offense. Johnny Damon is the best offensive player available. He would be a perfect leadoff man for the Reds (!), because that was a very rough spot for the Reds last year. Dusty Baker would love him. An unnamed GM talks about how the clubhouse must be completely out of hand because the Reds just spent $30M on Chapman (not mentioning that it’s spread out over 10 years). Damon’s defense still sucks, but that’s okay, because Chris Dickerson is the best athlete on the team. Cherry thinks that Damon is a great teammate. Damon will be awesome because he’s approaching many statistical milestones, and because he won championships on teams with $200M payrolls.
There’s no mention of Drew Stubbs in the leadoff spot, or any of the 7 other potential left fielders.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
that's the kind of thorough, in-depth journalism I've come to expect from ESPN.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Fuck ESPN
Their programs are boring, their commentators blab on and on and on. That network is myopic and dull.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
by Madville on Feb 8, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I defer to your opinion
What shows do you watch that you think are good?
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
i dont watch ESPN
actually, i find that network to be myopic and dull.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH?
they just don’t hire the best commentators
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I know I watch ESPN
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
boy, am I glad you learned how to post pictures.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Feb 8, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you knew I'd learn ...
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
My little boy is all grow'd up
(sheds tear, smiles)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Dusty Baker and the Reds FO are the ones saying Stubbs is the CF and leadoff hitter
obviously it doesnt matter what folks ‘round here think, but it’s an opinion shared by the people who DO matter.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Reds Fantasy Camp inside info
A certain Reds coach told me that Chris Dickerson is much better defensively in CF than Drew Stubbs and should be the everyday starter, but that won’t happen. He said it’s already been decided.
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter
Was it Speier?
He doesn’t know what’s going on..the guy was wimpy infielder..
Billy would know…what did hatch tell you Slyde…come on tell us…please Slyde…pretty please. Just give the initials…those guys never read RR.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I challenged him on it
and he scoffed at my challenge. I said “Dickerson is pretty good” and he responded, “No, Dickerson is great.”
I think he may have lost some objectivity though.
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter
Was he implying that Stubbs wasn't good, or that Dickerson is amazing?
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
He seemed higher on Dickerson
more than being down on Stubbs, though he didn’t seem particularly impressed with Stubbs.
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter
See, but Hatcher's claim does not need to be true to mean that Dickerson
should platoon with Stubbs. Their defense is close enough, I think, so that Dickerson’s OBP makes him (at the start of the 2010 season) the better player and thus entitled to the majority of the AB’s. Stubbs could improve and take the job from him, much like Dickerson played his way back into the line-up last year.
But, you don’t have to believe Billy’s claim to think C-Dick should be starting
The same people who thought Darnell McDonald should hit second and play LF last year
I’m betting Tim Kurkjian didn’t think much of that idea.
Which, should NOT be taken to mean that I am comparing McDonald and Stubbs. Only that both were unproven on February 8th. Of course, one is proven to be sucky now and the other one will hopefully reward our faith.
i dont buy that
Stubbs is a 1st round pick who just made it to the majors. Hotdog McBitchslap (thanks McNickname Generator!) was a 1st round pick that had already been spewed out the bottom of more than one organization. not the same.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
So Stubbs could become the next Darnell McDonald?
I only ask in jest
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 8, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
certainly
but it’s just as likely he becomes the next Grady Sizemore
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
maybe he means
He’s going to pose for nekkid pics in his bathroom.
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You should follow me on twitter @DavefrmLville....the Onion does!
by Dave from Louisville on Feb 8, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
I would need one of those supersized mugs from the gas staion
/please don’t ask my girlfriend if this is true
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
you know its fresh tea because it still has a tea bag
You should follow me on twitter @DavefrmLville....the Onion does!
by Dave from Louisville on Feb 8, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Grady Sizemore's lawyer
apparently tried to purge the web of these photos by serving cease and desist orders to web sites posting them. Many sites obeyed and took the pics down. But others, including very prominent ones like Deadspin, still have the photos. I wonder if they are ignoring the lawyers, or if the lawyers haven’t wanted to risk the wrath of Deadspin.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You know, I'm glad you posted that.
In my mind, that’s exactly what I look like in the mirror. Once I run it through the printer and magnify it to life sixe (I wanted to avoid “blow it up” if I could), I can just paste on the mirror at home.
Self-delusion is a key to happiness
yeah
my point is Stubbs has a good high floor. the chances of him sucking as hard as Wienerjeans McTalliwacker are about the same as his chances of turning into Grady Sizemore. which is to say, not very likely, but still possible.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Wienerjeans McTalliwacker
How did you find out my college moniker?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
it wasnt me
it was the McNickname Generator™!!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, point is that you are a true believer. I get that
your faith is grounded in all sorts of extrapolations and is rational,. but Timmy K doesn’t have to believe it to write intelligently about baseball or the Reds or the nice addition Damon would be to the line-up. All he has to know is if he continues to do Scott Boras’s bidding, Soctt Boras will take his phone calls and feed him propaganda. And, he can turn that propaganda into a writing career.
See, your priorities are a winning Reds team and his are making a mortgage payment. You have to know and believe Drew Stubbs is going to be ML average this season (at the least). All he knows is that Stubbs is a 25 year old rookie.
by timb116 on Feb 9, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
He can't become that
Sizemore bats lefty, Stubbs bats righty, duh
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 8, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
Damon is a very good leadoff man, but he really should be DHing these days.
I don’t think he’d be worth the dinero for the Reds. Maybe if they were contending this year…but I don’t think they are.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
i think they could
and a one year deal won’t hurt the Reds long term. So i am for getting Damon, just so that if Stubbs isn’t completely ready, the Reds have other options. If Stubbs is ready, Dickerson can spell Stubbs, Damon, and Bruce, and the lineup won’t lose that much offensively or defensively. I think he could be an added piece. Plus he still gets on base at a nice clip, which this team needs.
Plus if the Reds don’t contend, they might be able to turn him into a serviceable Matt Maloney/Heisley-esque type of prospect.
Question for the group:
Is MLB.tv worth it for somebody who doesn’t want to watch entire ballgames, especially at midnight after I get home from work? The $119 is no big deal. I just want something that’s a good investment of time.
Scale of 1-to-5, worst-to-first, what say ye all?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I think that might work well for you
But be warned, MLB.TV billing and customer service is gawd-awful. Honestly, that’s the main reason I no longer have MLB.TV and MiLB.TV subscriptions. The billing was a never-ending hassle.
The other problem I ran into is that it’s really slow during prime time. I know it’s not on my end, because it ran much better during off-hours, or when the entire country was blacked out on Saturdays. However, this likely won’t be a problem for you, since you won’t be watching “live.”
Be sure to check the blackout map as well. The Reds are blacked out in the oddest places. There are ways around that, of course, but it’s kind of a hassle.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
thanks bubba
I was thinking to pay it all at once since I’m like hundreds of others who use electronic banking. Mostly what I want is to be able to catch up to those two-homer games or the triple play. Maybe the fight between Mads and the guy in the seat 5 rows behind him.
I will investigate. I just don’t really watch TV and having the games or highlights available is more something I might do for 30 minutes on a rainy day or at night after I get home from work. Just enough to be able to chat intelligently (if that was ever possible).
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Ha - when I go the park I go with jch
jch24 is the Jonny Gomes of Red Reporter
ready, willing and able to take on any or all Brewer’s fans at GABP over a penis peanut slight.
Yes I’ll be there…holding his coat and taking the bets from ‘tHan,BK,Slyde and Ash (and any other RRs in attendance) eover how long it will be before we are all thrown out of the park for good or at least for that game.
Don’t mess with this man..
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
That guy looks like a total badass
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
fix'd
That guy looks like a total badass
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
That guy looks like a total failass
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
dude, if you do come to NYC while the Reds are in town
you HAVE to wear that exact outfit to Citi field. It would be legendary
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
does coeur mean
… ass in Canadian frogspeak or just the regular?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Is there a difference?
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
i reckon
if the thread is to be contiguous, then it’s
here that I want to post
wee wee maddy moyzelle
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
or as we say here in "rural" Indiana
oo-ee oo-ee, man cherry.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
my gawd
delete me before I start wearing berets and grow a tiny little mustache.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
We'll stop you when you begin surrendering to anyone nearby.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
I give up.
Say ethel la veen?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Sorry, I don't speak Froglish.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'll have to find the shirt, I left it in ATL at the end of that trip
Of course the contents of that apartment now reside in my house, so it should be around somewhere. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
check the jiz rag cabinet
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
by obc2 on Feb 8, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't have the time to drive all the way to your house, can you check for me?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
check under your roommates pillow
that’s where i usually leave it
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
BOOM!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
derrrrrrrrrrrrr ....
what’s a jiz rag?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I'm gonna leave this for someone else to answer
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Here
<a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbandictionary.com%2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3Djizz%2520rag" target="new">let me google that for you
Sonny my pitched my wild
/not recommended.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Feb 8, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rumor has it, when he was done smokin' his heater, he put it out on his forearm
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 8, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Close......I have eaten a lit cigarette on a bet
That night did not end well.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
wow really?
i didnt think it was possible, but you ARE dumber than you look.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
I’m the single dumbest motherfucker you have ever met, especially after alcohol ingestion.
Slyde summed it up the best I’ve ever heard, actually: (paraphrasing) “It’s like you live by the credo ‘if it hasn’t killed me yet, it never will!”
Words to live by, kids.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
you are truly an inspiration
i hope you live long enough that my yet-to-be-born son gets to meet you.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna live to be a hundred brazillion, no worries
Or get smoked by a tractor trailer who spins out on the ice tomorrow morning. Either way, not one damned person who knows me will say, “I just wish he had taken more chances, chased his dreams more.”
I am perfectly comfortable with this. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
idcredible, indeed
Seriously though, I’d rather be able to look at myself in the mirror and know that I left nothing on the table. And more importantly I strive to teach my children that great are within your reach, if you’re willing to take a chance.
Just this week I had to explain to my eight year old son why he shouldn’t concern himself with thoughts of his own mortality. I posited that he had a LONG time before he ever had to worry about that sort of thing whether it be himself or his mother or even himself, and the best thing he could do is just enjoy being a kid and not worry about that sort of thing.
Again, I am comfortable with this. I will never lie to my children, ever. Life happens. The sooner your children understand this, the better.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
that should have read "great THINGS are within your reach"
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
good lord indeed
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I used to be freaked out by death
when I was in the single-digits, I would stay up all night freaking out because ohmygod I’m going to die one day.
After a few near death experiences, though, all good.
What I’m trying to say is: holy shit. You might be a good father.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Imagine that
RR turned on its head, my being some voiced of reason.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Yeah, this won't stand.
Quick! Go eat an enormous cheeseburger!
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
There's one here in Bethesda that's nine pounds
Well, that’s just the meat. The whole thing is 15.2 pounds. If you can eat it all by yourself in one sitting, it’s free. I want to try, but my god.
has anyone ever done it?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
They didn't say on their website
You have to order it a day in advance. Check out some pictures. An entire office didn’t quite finish it off in one setting.
hmmm
Doesn’t look all that appealing to me.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There is no way that you could hold down 15 pounds of food.
Your stomach is literally too small.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
that thing is cooked to brown all the way through
kinda gross, actually
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I never worried about it
But my college roommate did. She didn’t realize people died until she was 5, and she freaked out when she found out. She’s still a little freaked about it.
My parents wanted me to worry more about mortality. It’s really kind of surprising I made it to adulthood.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I kinda welcome death
not anytime soon. But to me it is as natural as sleep. It is comforting to me in a way, knowing that while I will hopefully have 70 or 80 years on Earth, I don’t have eternity, so no matter how much I fuck it up, it really doesn’t matter. So I just try to do the best I can, and well if it doesn’t work out I’ll end up in the same position as George Washington is in right now.
"Lord grant me chastity
but not yet."
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
He's locked up in his family plot
There’s a gate on the mausoleum and everything. It’ll take some doing to get in his position.
Wait, what!?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Feb 9, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are going to run away with "Most Precocious" in 2010.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
I explained the concept and they grasp it, but they know where the gifts come from.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
if you just want to watch the highlights
You don’t need to pay. They are usually available for free shortly after the game.
They charge for entire games, and for seeing the highlights during the game, but a home run and a triple play would be available for free by midnight.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The best way to cancel your subscription is to cancel your credit card.
That’s the only way I managed it.
IAN! I'm on traain!
exactly
It’s a freakin’ nightmare. Do not pay via debit card. Who knows what will happen then,
I paid for the entire year upfront, too, but they pull crap like double-billing you, and automatically renewing, even when you told them not to. Three times.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
well damn, Bubba
sounds like MLB.TV is not for me. (Sigh) …
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I really don't think you need it
If all you want to do is watch the highlights after the game is over, you can do that for free. Just look at the game story at MLB.com, and there will be links to the video highlights. And lowlights.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
hmmm
I had sort of decided I’d get a little more visual with it this year than in the past, owing to some changes in lifestyle, etc etc … but to be honest, I come home at night, I seriously doubt I want to watch even 3 innings of a ballgame.
I lost interest in games years back when there were more mouths in the booth than in the bleachers. Gawd, if anybody didn’t get THAT message yesterday with the flaming bobbleheads at the football game.
Anyway, I could go off on a tangent here. I guess I won’t.
But I like to talk about the games and the players. This forum of folks seems like a good place to share some of that. No, I am not puffing you folks up but finding sensible baseball chat is not that easy. So I figured I’d get something of link that lets me see some of the action, enough to talk about it with some degree of confidence.
And to top that off, I happen to be very high on the Redlegs this year. I think this team is in the hunt.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
well
MLB.TV usually has a free preview week in April. You can check it out without paying.
However, be warned. They will ask for a credit card number, and canceling if you decide you don’t like it can be difficult.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
whooo ...
this doesn’t sound very appealing.
I need an alternative.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
like I said
You’d probably be fine just watching the highlights for free.
For example, you can see Paul Janish hit a walkoff single and get kicked in the face by Ryan Freel here, along with several other highlights of the game.
They do that for every game. The game story will be on the front page of Reds.com that night, and will have links to the video highlights.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
and
we here at RR usually have a game recap posted within the hour.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Damned good ones, IMO
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You write great recaps, considering you don't have cable ;)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
here's my mess
1. I have no interest in entertainment TV.
2. I don’t work the hours that let me see the games live.
3. I don’t think “highlights” is going to show me enough.
4. As far as interviews and stories about players, well … I know how to read.
So I just want to be able to see more about Juan Francisco than “here’s the pitch, wow he hit that one a long way (cue the fireworks) … and now we move to the 5th inning ….”
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I sat here for way too long trying to figure out
what you’re replying to here.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
mlb.tv
Back when, I asked if anybody had an info on MLB.tv because I was considering it. Mostly, it’s been Bubba and me on the chat. I am looking for input.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
i like mlb.tv
i’ve had it for…how long now? five years? six? god, what year is this?
but i can’t say i haven’t had the billing problems. once they charged me four times in one month. but the woman on the phone was nice about it when i finally got through.
I actually thought it was you responding
until he got done with #4, then he left lucidness.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I can't wait to see your reaction to the typical RR recap then
It’s written by someone who watched the game and has the emotions fresh in their mind regarding key situations, and sum it up nicely. I love the insight I get from the recaps for games I didn’t get to watch.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
recaps
I intend to (or hope to) take full advantage of any input on the team/players that I can get. By the end of the 2010 season, when they ask me to speak before the Chamber on
“Reds Baseball: An Expert Fan Shares Insights” I will owe it all to you and you and you.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I have no part in the recaps unless unless someone is sick
So cut the “you think you’re so important” condescending bullshit. Fair?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I never assumed
you were important, if that helps.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
by johnu1 on Feb 8, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a role to play at RR
Postgame analysis ain’t one of ‘em. I’m sorry if I was a bit brusque, I’ve gotten used to people discrediting things I say only because I’[m the person saying it.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Assuredly
I’d say you have no issues from me on that score. I came on this board to read about baseball. Anything else that I dabble in is purely for fun.
I sho-nuff don’t take myself very seriously and I haven’t had an important idea in 36 years.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Do us both a favor and don't be passive aggresive
When I fully express opinions here, strange things happen. It’s why Slyde loves me. And for the record, it was the “I will owe it all to you and you and you.” that pissed me off. If you never assumed I was important, you wouldn’t have included that in your statement…..unless you were trying to incite.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I can as easily
not post on this board at all, so if you were incited, sorry about that. I aimed it at the humor stick, since my chance of ever being asked to speak at a Chamber of commerce dinner are pretty slim.
So if it would make you all feel better, I can find better things to do with my free time.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Up to you, I suppose
Personally, I find you sexy.
Your move, champ.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Calm down killer, I don't think johnu is trying to start shit
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
nobody will be starting any shit
And I should hope that is the last time I have to write that. Here’s what you learn about me. You can read the tag on my toe for further instructions.
A lot of what I have to say usually takes about 86,000 words. That’s a full novel, if you haven’t counted lately.
What all of us write in 60 words or less on an internet blog forum board is usually a lot less important than that.
If I need to get your attention on a very personal matter, I will first endeavor to make friends with you.
After that, I will make other judgments.
Failing anything else, I didn’t come here to piss people off.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
No worries john
I lurv you the same way I lurv Mads, as someone who has seen and experienced things I’ll never get to experience.
Now if you’ll excuse me, my girlfriend is home after a long night at work. It’s my job to make her happy, so I’ll see you fools later. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Fuck you jch - you threw me over for the Peach and obc got dumped too
And this time I really mean it. I’m not kidding you turd ass sucking bastard…OhBTW i went to Arthur’s tonight with the FMM..had the Arthur Burger (done just as I like it)…after my recent forays to Gordo’s..I must say I was fucking disappointed…the meat was boring the bun was squishy white bread shit and the diet coke watered down.Plus I was surrounded by a din of maniacal fucking Hyde Parkians all rooting for Nova to beat Huggs.I.thank Gawd that I moved to the ghetto.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I sense your angst.
Allow me to give a flying fuck.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Arthur's ain't everything people make it out to be
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Oh, and obc did the dumping
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
whoa, stop acting like me
i’m the only one here who can misread comments and take them all as personal insults.
by Daedalus on Feb 9, 2010 4:05 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
hahaha
I might have been imbibing a tad last night. Sorry guys. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
this made me gaffaw
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
"written by someone who watched the game"
HA! Good one.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 9, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So you want Louisville highlights?
Interesting
pshaw
modesty is for losers, Gray. you do a damn fine job.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 8, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Gray is exceptionally gifted in the writing arena...
This season I hope that he writes all the recaps.
Some in French as well as English and that he will deign to emulate the styles of literary greats from Sophocles to Clive Cussler, giving a different, yet appropriate flavor and feel to each rendition of the newly fresh Redleg game.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
oooooo
Outlined against a gray November sky stood the Four Horseman of the Appomattox. In literary lore, they were Cydle, Doochbog, Victor and Hugo.
But we knew them as …………………..
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
"emulating the literary greats"-- yes, please!
A game recap in sonnet form would be… well, it would be something.
by the finest muffins on Feb 8, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Iambic Pentameter
Nothing less than the Bard.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
switching off with
RECAPS IN ALLCAPS
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
s'up bb
ain’t seen you around these parts much..what going on?
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Bubba, you seem to know a lot about MLB.TV...
Do you (or any RRs) know if it’s possible to subscribe to audio only? I actually prefer to listen to games on the radio, but I’m way too cheap to pay for the whole MLB.TV subscription when all I need is the radio feed. I emailed their customer service and got a cryptic, un-helpful answer…
by the finest muffins on Feb 8, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I only subscribe to Gameday Audio.
It’s like $15/year. The only drawback is that once a game has started, you have to join it live OR wait for the game to be over to listen from the beginning. And if you want to skip through commercial breaks, it can get buggy.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 8, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, that's okay.
I’m used to the actual radio (a hand-crank one at that, I’m very old school) so I don’t need fancy. How’d you sign up? I can’t find information anywhere.
by the finest muffins on Feb 8, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think they've hidden it.
They have a FAQ up, and seem to be planning to offer it for mobile devices. The FAQ implies that it will be available for everyone at some point.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
This is most excellent news.
Thanks everyone. I’m more excited than ever for games to start—bring on spring training, bitches!
by the finest muffins on Feb 8, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
whoa
Tender my vittles.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I also subscribe to the Audio
Its great if cna’t get radio reception, like at my damn cube!
You should follow me on twitter @DavefrmLville....the Onion does!
by Dave from Louisville on Feb 8, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
The Gameday Audio is definitely worth it.
I usually do that, that way I can listen on my computer if the game’s not on TV, and listen to spring training games.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I did that when I lived in Mexico.
It seemed to work really well.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
yes, audio is available, and it's cheap
Audio for minor league games is free.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
wee wee mouse ear
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Very damn funny chuck - I love Dr. Spews
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Wow, you can look at microfiche through Google now?
That’s so incredibly awesome. Even if they may have, possibly, failed on their “don’t be evil” claim, having sweet resources like that makes my day/week/semester. Even if they keep on sending me targeted ads for “Find an Afghan woman TODAY!”
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I wish they'd target me with that ad
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Brian Giles signed with the Dodgers.
So he’s no longer under consideration for one of our 12 left field jobs.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
We might be able to move one of our usual glut of RHRP to the Cubs.
MLB.com says:
The Cubs are still looking for late-inning relief help, preferably right-handed. That said, they could open camp without adding anyone else and possibly make a deal during Spring Training.
currently we have these RHRP:
Burton, Jared P
Del Rosario, Enerio P
Fisher, Carlos P
Lincoln, Mike P
Masset, Nick P
Owings, Micah P
Valiquette, Phil P
Viola, Pedro P
AAA
Delgado, Jesus P
Lehr, Justin P
Ondrusek, Logan P
I’d like to keep Masset, Fisher, and Owings, but I consider the rest expendable. I’d love to move LIncoln. Do you agree?
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Valiquette and Viola are both lefties
Delgado doesn’t play for us
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
If I wasn't interested in being right, I'd be obc
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Delgado is still listed on the Rotowire Reds Team Home Page.
I’ll alert them to fixes that.
No excuse on the lefty/righty thing. 2 demerits.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
I haven't seen Delgado listed anywhere else for the Reds
So that’s news to me. He may have been a minor league FA signed, I guess. Either way, I wouldn’t take him seriously for a bullpen spot at this point.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 8, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I rec'd this comment HARD, and plan to call it in the morning
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Forget not Coco
Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.
-Hilaire Belloc
Speaking of sleaze ....
I see Milwaukee is planning to put up a 7-foot statue to His Seligness, claiming he did more for baseball in Wisconsin than almost everybody except for Vince Wutzisface. I’m thinkin’ … 7-foot, man … if this guy has a hook shot, whoa!
In gleaning the comments on it, I think I found one that supports this.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
This is as good a place as any
Hey fellers and gals, how are we doing? I just got back from drinking and billiards with a good friend who I am trying to talk out of divorcing his wife. What arguments have any of you made against your better judgment for the sake of the person you’re talking to?
/I swear to god I will ban all three of obc’s accounts if he brings up vasectomy
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
for one thing
maybe the drinking might be part of the problem.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Dad? Is that you?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
drinking then life altering decisions
always a good argument.
no way this ends badly.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Mine or his?
You know, since you have absolutely no grasp of the personalities involved.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Are you the one with the problem?
If your friend is drinking, he needs to at least acknowledge that has an impact on his process. I won’t evaluate drinking beyond that.
To solve a problem, one must identify the causes.
Is that one of the problems? If so, then that needs to at least be acknowledged. Dealing with it is the next step.
If that isn’t the problem, then he/you/whoever needs to identify the problem.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
If he has kids...
you can ask if he wants them to grow up without both parents around.
If he doesn’t have a pre-nup (dumbasses <——all of you who don’t have a pre-nup), then you can figure out what his alimony payments are gonna be. In Cali, the payments run for a lifetime once you are married ten years.
You can show him how invisible he has become to young, attractive ladies. If he’s losing his hair, it’s even worser.
But if he’s still young, not married for more than a few years, and has no kids, then he should probably cut bait before she pokes a hole in her diaphragm or his condom. Remember, kids: two forms of birth control. The one you have, and the one she’s lying about.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 8, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
No alimony where I am
Which ironically makers things that much more difficult.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
dont you need an income to pay alimony?
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
no doubt
writing up that pre-nup was the best thing i ever did. i get the cat and the Wii, she gets the area rug and the washer/dryer pair.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 9, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
Look, woman, I got a lot of shit that I don't want you to have
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by Slyde on Feb 9, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
take a page from Tiger's book
If she approaches you swinging a nine iron, change the pre-nup.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Here's the approach...
My parents got divorced, and I hated what it did to them. I had a live-in girlfriend who ran up the credit cards and then skipped out, which left me understandably scarred, and I’ve struggled with those trust issues. My best friend’s wife became an alcoholic, and they now hate each other, and she took his house. I don’t want that to happen to us. I never want us to hate each other over STUFF. I don’t want lawyers coming in and speaking for me, trying to leverage the ownership of your cat into settlement money. That’s disgusting. But the laws in this state say that I can walk in on you blowing the pool boy, and you can still take my house. So I really think it’s smart to buy some inexpensive “divorce insurance.” Let’s write up something simple that says in writing that I will never take your cat, and you will never take my dad’s pool table. Let’s just outline how we’ll amicably split if the unthinkable happens way down the road so we never act like those people. In fact, you can get someone to write it up the way you want it, and it can even include a little alimony, so we never fight about that, either. I love you, and I don’t want us to turn into my parents or our divorced friends. I love you more than stuff, so let’s protect us from ourselves. And we can do it any way you think is right.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There's definitely truth to that.
Marriage warps incentives to stay together, and I can definitely say I wouldn’t want someone deciding to stay with me or leave because of the stuff. The problem is that at the start of things, most people want to feel like those incentives won’t matter—but we should be honest about the fact that they may.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Yeah,
women usually react well to those preemptive honest chats. Never would they hold it against you that you don’t have enough faith to act on blind trust.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
that puts a nice spin on it
and puts in a perspective i had never really thought about. i just figured pre-nups were for rich people who actually had something to lose in a divorce.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 9, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Suddenly I'm hungry for a pudding pop
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
He did the commercials, not me
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
And how do you know it wasn't a vanilla pudding pop?
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
go where it's warm!
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
This picture combines two of my most very favorite things
Knowledge and Bill Cosby
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
"because the Jello tastes so good!"
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
How in Hades has this not been rec'd yet?
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
What folks often forget is that...
…while you may not have much now, you’re probably working hard each day to change that. Both of you. So there ends up being stuff.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Letting my ex take over the house was the best thing ever
Dumb luck, but still.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
carriage rides are the best thing ever!
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Unless the horse ate green oats.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
Or Beef-a-rino
Before the curse of stastics fell upon mankind we lived a happy, innocent life, full of merriment and go and informed by fairly good judgement.
-Hilaire Belloc
Life is good (if I may borrow the phrse from 'tHan)
Then you die.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I'm still young enough to hate the idea of pre-nups
but still, I remember the one thing being taught in Property class was GET A PRE-NUP!
Especially in a common-property state like CA. Woof.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Man, if I'm not careful, I'm going to end up divorced in 10 years, paying for my washed up engineer's crazy diy solar power projects
and homemade wind tunnels. FTS.
IAN! I'm on traain!
Not sure if this was an argument against my better judgment for the sake of the other person in the conversation
But I once told a buddy that he was fucking retarded (or as the kids in the streets are callin’ it, Rahm Emanuel) if he left his girlfriend b/c she was the best he was ever gonna do/get/achieve/attain/obtain/be with, and that he really had to do some soul-searching as to if she was actually making him miserable with some of her quirks, or if he was too fucking rigid about some meaningless shit (I mean we’re talking pretty trivial shit).
Long story short, he realized it was more him and his quirks, than her and hers.
Hell, I know what you were replying to and I still had a hard time following it
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I once told my buddy...
…dude, she’s an LA 9, she has a house, and you’re some broke-ass musician with a stutter. Get your head out of your ass, and quit lookin’ at other gals! She’s a keeper.
They now have two beautiful children, and are wonderfully happy.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 8, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
You gotta be happy
Believe it or not, I wake up to heaven every single morning. She is everything I’ve hoped for in a person and I’m lucky that she finds me interesting. I have absolutely no idea what keeps her around (other than the 8" of wiener). She is truly a saint.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Sorry, I should have just paraphrased it and said "Dude, you out-kicked your coverage, pay your tab and go home to your beautiful gf"
She was easily a 9, and he was a 4 on a good day.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 8, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Story of my life.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You should see my wife. I'm convinced she's blind.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 8, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Hell I had 2 wives
4 fiances, 3 live-ins and four others who said they loved me.
No lie. And if anybody deserves to be hidden in a closet when friends call, it’s me.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I forgot to add the affair I've been having for 8 years
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
What's the lucky fella's name?
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
very low compared to jch
par for the course for the rest of us.
the lesson is don’t get fiancee #2…
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
by obc2 on Feb 9, 2010 6:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
i’m going the Russian mail order bride route.
I have also learned to not even think about marriage until my education is finished.
by justin007000 on Feb 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
No serious relationships before age 25.
This is a very important rule.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just don't think about marriage for a long time
trust me, if you love her enough now to marry her, you will love her enough at age 25 to marry her.
Don’t make any career/grad school decisions around her. I am thanking my lucky stars I didn’t go to UC, UD, Xavier, or Miami to stay near “the love of my life”.
Trust a man who just experience it, and a man who’s roommate experienced the same thing last year.
Also engagement rings are expensive as a student.
by justin007000 on Feb 9, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Of course it seems different now
and I’ve been there, engaged before 25. But trust us: while the “rule” is a bit extreme, there’s plenty of truth in it.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Oh, no worries there.
We’re both reasonably realistic, haha.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
barring... certain avoidable issues...
I wouldn’t worry about it.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
DO YOU MEAN PREGGERS?
DON’T MAKE BABBY, CROLFER. LADYBUGS CAN LAY LIKE DOZENS OF EGGS PER DAY. THAT IS ONE HECK OF A CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT.
IAN! I'm on traain!
by andromache on Feb 9, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for accuracy. And the babby reference. This thing is gold.
That would be problematic though, yes.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I think a lot of it is this:
Don’t promise anything you can’t back up. This can be pretty damn hard to do in relationships…especially when you’re young and don’t yet know what’s really sustainable and what isn’t.
That’s not to say that people all gain that perspective with age…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Don't be a chump, wrap your stump!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Feb 9, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
did lightning strik you this afternoon?
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
I was married at 23
and I honestly can’t imagine life without her. I realize that I’m an exception and not the rule, but I also feel like I should speak up when people start acting like all marriages are doomed (not that you were, Gray, just felt like chiming in here). It depends on the people involved more than anything.
Then again, we just found out that a friend of ours, who seemed like she was fully committed to her family and her husband, has been cheating and now they are getting a divorce because she wants to move in with the new guy. It was a shock, but strangely it has reaffirmed for my wife and myself how much we mean to each other.
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"Slyde's an outlier, Slyde's an outlier!!!"
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You mean Slyde uses a small tea cup?
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Count me in Slyde's camp
Course, this is my second marriage….
You got married for a second time at 23?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Nah
but I played softball with a 25 year old with two divorces under his belt and 4 kids by three different women? Christmas must have been confusing…..
Elijah Duke played in your softball league?
what a ringer.
by justin007000 on Feb 9, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well done, and thanks for not invoking my name :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
well we know
You would just deny affiliation anyhow.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Deny deny deny
Words to live by, my friend.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
yeah yeah yeah
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
No way dude
I’m two for two on cheek swabs, although I’m gonna try and steer clear of any more.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Oh, I'm not bragging
It speaks more to my previous choice in women than it does about my character. I have a tendency to learn lessons the hard way.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I am starting to feel like jokes about your fertility
need to go the way of Brendan’s moms jokes. I am very guilty of overusing it.
We need a new meme
Anyone have a suggestion?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
He eats so much beef...
…that cows are starting to pass his number around with a wink.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Oh, and I'm definitely not saying that.
There’s a lot to say for people who marry young and are able to grow together. I once came close to something that I think could have ultimately been that. At the time, of course, I lacked much perspective and just hoped for the best.
It’s hard for most people to know whether that will happen or they’ll grow apart, though—which is basically what I meant by, “Don’t promise anything you can’t back up.”
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
that's good advice
along those same lines, “set low expectations.” Then when you outdo those expectations, she’ll think she’s turned you into a better person. Never, ever, ever come out of the gate with your best because it’s only downhill from there.
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Now you tell me.....crap
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
People don't change much.
Women are often looking for fixer-uppers they can get below market value. The truth is, for the most part, that you get what you buy, not what you hope the person will turn into.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
this one we gotta
… green
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
You can use this as an advantage if you're dating.
Buy a couple of nice things for the walls, and lean them against the wall instead of ever hanging them. It shows you have taste, while they think that you’re THIS CLOSE and just need “a woman’s touch.”
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Ultimately the interior person don't change at all.Only behavior can change.
One can consciously alter one’s personal behavior. But that takes discipline and a true desire to think before speaking, care before acting and love with out judging. Pretty tall orders. But its is doable enough to make marriages and partnerships work, grow and become een better over time. However it takes both persons to agree to work towards mutual benefit and requires a lot of forgiveness. Humor, listening and doing fun stuff have always helped the FMM and me over some pretty tight spots, as we head towards #34.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Rule 34?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
34 years of married bliss for me
34 years of worry, hand wringing, training and hoping against hope for the FMM
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
So, in general, women approach mating like NYC does a baseball roster?
He’s got a lot of upside and the first few years I have him, he’ll be under my control for the “league” minimum. When we reach three years, i can decide whether there’s enough upside for a long term commitment or play it by ear and non-tender him
A renewable 3-5 year marriage is optimim for some folks.
That ain’t for me, but we all know people who’d be better off this way :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Smoe it if you got it.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
S-M-O-E?
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
Improving is for suckas
Like pants.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
But he used correct spelling and punctuation. :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
i mean
gray litterly just reiterated the last 3 years of my life, when I was so sure I found the woman I wanted to grow old with.
litterly......God I love you man
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
The world is littered with women who don't appreciate justin as much as we do. :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he's not still talking about the cat?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Feb 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i was going to respond here as well
but it’s pretty much the same thing. i met my wife when i was 20 and i knew i was going to marry her after about 4 months. of course, i wasnt so hasty that i told her that until after 6 months or so :)
but really, it’s impossible to listen to anyone but yourself when it comes to things like love. the best you can do is hope that you know what the hell youre talking about.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 9, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Of course you disagree, crolfer.
At your age it’s natural to think you have a handle on things. It’s also damn near impossible to convince you of the contrary. I was much the same way, but I wish someone had convinced me of this when I was a teen. Serious relationships are for when you are well on track to living your life dream, have a college degree, and both of you have “shopped around” enough to not be drawn away by attractive folks whom you are not involved with, and know what you actually want instead of what you think you want at the time.
The best advice I can give you, crolfer, is to be INTENSELY careful about pregnancy. Sometimes that means saying no to a sure thing, especially if that sure thing is a single mother.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
I can also add
that there is no particular age on that maturity.
The secret, I learned too late, is to identify where you are in life in connection to where you are supposed to be.
Now, the definition of “supposed to be” is the fuzzy part.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
by johnu1 on Feb 9, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
great advice
i just went through that. But I mean the one thing I got out of the last two “serious” relationships was what sort of woman to avoid. I have shopped around a bit. Now I am avoiding relationships and focusing on school. Not that I would turn down the perfect young lady if she ended up in my lap.
there is some freud mixed in here
about the sort of woman who is appealing to us based on the sort of men we are. That’s pretty complex stuff but sometimes I think shrinks would have us all undergo counseling before we make our “life” choices.
After that, the variables are mixed in.
There are aspects of it all that hinge on the type of woman we believe makes us whole.
That works for women as well and we got no dog in that fight.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
It's a tough call
Whether to be with someone who balances you out, or someone who’s a lot like you. I’ve been with both types, and prefer the latter. At least I understand their thought process a little better.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
i tried the balancing out
i loved to travel, she hated to travel.
I love to discuss politics, she hates politics.
I love history, she is bored by it.
I love to fly, she thinks small aircraft are unsafe.
I love to drink, she hated to drink.
I am agnostic, she is the grandaughter of a baptist preacher.
I like to spend money, she is frugal.
I am emotional, she is an ice queen.
That's not balance, that's incompatibility.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Feb 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i realize that now
but you know, i think Matt Maloney will be the next Tom Glavine. I am delusional and see the reality i prefer, rather then the one that exists.
There was one study
that suggested you should have serious relationships with 12 people before you marry. People who did that had the happiest marriages.
The theory being that it gives you a good idea of what’s out there. You weren’t always thinking, “Maybe I could have done better.” You “try out” a dozen people, then marry the best of them. At that point, you aren’t likely to find anyone better by kissing more frogs, so to speak.
Of course, my parents starting dating when they were 15, never dated anyone else, and have been happily married longer most people here have been alive.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I don't get it
A ton of older folk fall into that category. Is it that society has changed that much?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
older folk
would now currently include me, as I am 63.
The values our parents gave us are not set in stone but are pretty clear path markers.
But yes, society has changed all that much.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I think that's part of it
Not just that people who expect marriage to be forever are more likely to stick with it, but also that older people are more likely to marry people from similar backgrounds. Same ethnic background, religion, values, etc. I suspect that helps a lot. Moving to France to marry a woman you met through Google is romantic and all, but I suspect marrying the girl next door is more likely to work out. My parents were actually in kindergarten together.
But then, a lot of older people don’t stay married. My mom’s brother went through a horrible divorce…while he was dying of lung cancer. (Yes, he smoked. He also worked as a carpet layer, so was probably exposed to asbestos.) His final days were spent battling in court to make sure his wife didn’t steal his estate from their young son.
And my best friend’s parents are getting divorced after 35 years of marriage.
Then there’s the people who stay married but aren’t happy. The mom of one of my friends has told her daughter not to ever get married or have kids. She says if she could do it all over again, she wouldn’t have. (I know that sounds awful, but she actually has a great relationship with her kids. She just wouldn’t have had them if she could do it all over.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
interesting
I think the one best piece of advice I got was to not go into a relationship with the notion that you are rescuing somebody from a worse life.
Being a rescuer is the equivalent of being a victim and an abuser all in the same sentence.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I fell prey to the savior complex
Talk about an all time screwup on my part.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
...yeah
word up, johnu
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
One of the crappy things about being an economist
is that I start seeing everything in terms of economic models.
In this case, though, the dating world really is like a search model (same thing basically as a job): you get a draw from a pool of prospects and stick with it as long as you see fit. Some people stop early, figuring they won’t get as good of a draw again. Others keep going and eventually regret that they never returned to that level. Eventually, you either stick with one for a while or die without figuring it out. Or both, I guess…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Feb 9, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's a damned good analogy
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
changing society
I think the one thing about society that has changed generally over the past 20 years is that we have discovered that we can do it over and over again in the hopes we will get it right.
To some end, we can “blame” that on the notion that women don’t necessarily need the man’s income to survive.
During my parents time, a woman stayed in a relationship for lots of reasons, namely because leaving one was tantamount to being set adrift at sea.
But the downside of current society is that the need to stay together is only as strong as the notion that splitting up would be a bigger pain in the ass.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I think that's correct
I also don’t think it’s “natural” for women to need a man’s income (and vice-versa). That was a result of our agrarian past. It was hard to run a farm as a single person, male or female. Only a hundred years ago, 97% of the US population were farmers.
If you look back to hunter-gatherer societies, marriage tends to be more serial monogamy than forever. Often, it’s women and their children who are the backbone of society, with men sort of passing through.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The other side of it
is that the decision to end it depends on your outside option. This can also change over time.
Though one of my profs liked to point out that plenty of couples decide that divorce isn’t worth it, so they end up in a permanently unhappy state…what he liked to call the “burnt toast” resolution.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
and I also think
that isn’t always the worst end to it all.
Naturally, I presume that extramarital affairs are common in such relationships, which really never benefits anybody.
But during my recent years as an upper-middle age guy looking for “partners,” there is a lot going on.
That would hijack the topic even more.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I did not elaborate
because it is too extensive. I will say this and anybody who wants to argue or debate, spread it out on your own.
Most women I have dated over the years are still married to their pasts.
I say most because, that’s what they are. They are married to their husbands through their kids and their past and her gray hair.
Want me to elaborate? I have all night if you want. The “lot that is going on” is a whole bunch about low self esteem and wishing we were the same people we were when we fell in love.
I’ve been single for about 8 years and I’ve gone through several relationships, all of them ending for the same reason. We didn’t belong together.
The relationship I am in now is 90 miles away and I see her one Sunday a month.
I can elaborate. Just say when you want me to start.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
That's really more info than I need...
Lets talk baseball some more…whatdya say gang?
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Well, that's the thing.
If there were a better outcome, they would go with that. Well, assuming they’re rational…and most people can only maintain irrationality for a certain period of time.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
alas
I would chat the entire day but my work calls. I must go therefore to Merrillville and be rewarded spiritually for my devotion to duty.
Checking in later on.
Peace.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
See, the issue there is that it's about control.
Not to mention experience. My dad had an affair and it pretty well tore my family apart. He lives in Texas now, and I have pretty much zero respect for him… The one positive that came out of that is that I know I could never do that to anyone I love. I can honestly say, I’d rather die.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Getting caught at age 16 was what cured me.
But enough alcohol could “uncure” anyone.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
in Cuba
Some people divorce, but continue living together for decades, because neither can afford a separate apartment.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
HEY
You’ve still got the market cornered for drunk, incoherent comments full of typos.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Did you miss my work last night?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Eh, even your drunk ass mixed some spellcheck in
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
My ex lived with me for 3 months after we got divorced. A rather interesting arrangement but it was amicable. As a Russian, she was familiar with it (housing sucks there too) and I was more comfortable not having to worry that her boyfriend would beat the piss out of her and leave her on my doorstep.
A lot of folks were puzzled at this but in my end of it, it was simply no big deal. We worked different hours and led separate lives. No kids, no crap. She just kept her “stuff” at the house until she could find a ticket back to Moscow. That was during the 2003 St. Petersburg tricentennial and finding flights back there wasn’t all that easy. So, we waited till August.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I think economics
is the appropriate way to view marriage. For most of history, marriage has been an economic merger. Originally, formal marriages was basically for rich people, and religion had nothing to do with it, at least where the common people were concerned.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
God Damn I never took you for such a romantic BF
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
by Madville on Feb 9, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and it still is
marriage is all about economics. otherwise, you could just live with the person you love without getting a government issued piece of paper that states you are economically one. (and in most places on earth a wife is still considered a man’s property.)
true
And despite all the complaining men do, I think marriage is still a much better deal for men than for women.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Marriage is not a 'deal'
Good lord. How many times/long have you been married?
And what about same sex marriage?( Iknow you’re referring to man-woman marriage but) My friends Joe and Steve are together for 28 years and counting..they are fighting for right to enjoy not only the ‘benefits’ of marriage but more so the desire to publicly commit to one another and be seen by all as so committed…death til they part and all that stuff..
Oh and for a lot of folks (not me) marriage is a religious event
and yes there are economics involved but from my perspective and is a nice side perk.
I am happy I don’t live in a place where people are considered other people’s property..(of course that one reason I don’t live in the American south or Texas)…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
you are taking an ethnocentric view of the word
in most places on earth, marriage is still done for economic purposes. in the west, prior to the industrial revolution, marriage was to produce offspring to work on farms. marriage for love is an 18th century invention, hence the reason we use the word romance to describe love despite the fact that romanticism was an artistically, intellectually, and culturally liberating period of history.
a whole lot of pain and suffering could be saved if people would stop looking at it as this “sacred bond”. if it’s so sacred, it wouldn’t end half the time in divorce.
by Daedalus on Feb 10, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You think so?
The sacred bond thing is also ethnocentric…socio-centric as well. What ever happened to plain old love…kids these days.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I'm bringing it back.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Feb 11, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Someday soon, when you are like 61, you will be glad that you did
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
luckily...
It’s possible to get un-jaded… or something a long those lines.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
yeah i know
just not 2 weeks to the day. Really I am more concerned about my personal career crisis, and trying to figure out what I’m going to do in two years then losing her. We were on life support for a long time. All though I did lose my paper editor… Mostly it is just kind of a lot of things happening and once. Well at least I have alcohol in the apartment.
by justin007000 on Feb 11, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's true...
When things go bad, they all go bad at once… Hopefully they decide to start improving sooner rather than later.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
it is more my outlook needs to change
i really do need to take things a day at a time, not think about things that I can’t help today.
I am working on realizing that I’m in a solid grad program, doing stuff that I mostly like, in one of America’s finest cities, with lots of good people around me.
Being a grad student in a grueling process, or at least can seem that way. I and almost all of my colleagues, wake up sometimes and wonder what are we doing? But I realize it doesn’t matter, I like it, and yeah I will never have a lot of money, but I never really wanted money.
by justin007000 on Feb 12, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
If you count only first marriages, the percentage of success is much higher than 50%.
People like my brother (divorced 6 times) screw up the curve for the rest of us.
When people in America get married, they are instantly bound to over 1200 laws. If they printed the 1200 pages of laws and THAT’s what you had to sign attached to your wedding license, I think most people would prefer a simple 5-page pre-nup.
Also, gay marriage can be legal anywhere, in a way. Mads’ friends could form a company called THE TOTALLY LEGAL MARRIAGE OF JOE AND STEVE that was a business partnership that was legally recognized and called a marriage, and they could include most of the legal covenants of wedlock. Some laws still would not apply, however, such as the despicable ones such as those prohibiting custody, hospital visitation, funeral rights, and insurance benefits.
That said, and I guess it’s OK that we’re edging into a political issue here, I have never heard a sensible argument for why people born homosexual have fewer rights than those born heterosexual. It’s just bigotry that will mostly wane over the next generation or so.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Heer Heer Petey
My trailer park sister has been married 4 times, her oldest daughter 3 times and her youngest 2 times.
But I’m really interested in the why BF and D are so convinced that marriage is an automatically misogynist “venture”. There are as many roles as there are people to take them. that is where choice, personal choice can (doesn’t always) significantly shape the adventure.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
marriage is a better deal for men?
im intrigued.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 10, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
I would say that evolutionarily, it may be.
Without commitment, the strongest dudes get to have all the babies, and in any case, it’s courtship and impressing the other sex for the rest of your fertile life.
IAN! I'm on traain!
plus
if you find a good wife, you can quit your job and write a book.
Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter
by Slyde on Feb 10, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm taking notes:
“Step one: Find a good wife.”
Well, at least I’m already in Vermont.
IAN! I'm on traain!
heh
I’ve often joked that I want a wife. Not a husband, a wife!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I certainly wouldn't recommend dating men.
I don’t see the appeal.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Or go into semi retirement
Write 2 books
Start an Art Gallery
Work on screenplays
Write and produce music
and do all the house work and cook the meals.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Hey, I do the same shit
except the Gallery part. Whadda’ ya know.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I am taking a break from the Gallery part.
If you think RRs are finicky and precocious…well try working with Arteeeests – well ’nuff said.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
dunno if I buy that
You can do that even with marriage. Marriage doesn’t have to be one man, one woman. And there are always concubines and mistresses.
Commitment is a benefit for men because they can never be sure of paternity. “Mama’s baby, daddy’s maybe.” However, marriage isn’t exactly a guarantee of commitment, as we all know.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
As I understand it (am I am a little slower than most RRS)
Only Death is guaranteed.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
not if you live off shore!!!
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
by boobs on Feb 10, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Perfect joke.
Pauly Shore and his flotation device.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 10, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
even in the US
If you look at it sociologically…men benefit more from marriage than women do.
The happiest men are married men. The happiest women are single. Married men live longer than single men. The longevity benefit for women is much smaller, and may not exist. Married men tend to be more successful than single men; there’s no such benefit for married women.
While both men and women benefit economically from marriage, if there’s a divorce, statisically, it’s much more devastating to the finances of the woman.
I think a big reason for all this is that in marriage, women have taken on many of the things men used to do (working outside the home, etc.), but men have been much slower to take on the traditionally female jobs. Even in our enlightened age, women bear the brunt of childrearing, housework, etc., while also working full time outside the home.
I suspect this is why Generation X is the first generation in the US where more men than women want to get married.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There's a big selection problem with marriage...
and a big problem in the US is that most men haven’t yet figured out how to be with women who are as successful or more successful than they are.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Most maybe...
But not me.
In the final analysis we all do the best we can with what we got. If one works on being less concerned with ‘getting ahead’ and instead does what one does best , the best a person can..well then ‘success’ takes on a much broader and richer meaning.
However, marriage reform is necessary!
It is like Heath Care – as it is it is too tied up with having and job/occupation/making money. I’m writing President Obama today about this national crises.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I am one of the men who has.
But, at the peril of being mistaken for a misogynist, there are fundamental differences between men and women that make that equation inherently more complicated than simply being a man with a much more successful woman.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Petey, below,
referred to a different emotional hardwiring. This fact casts a long shadow over the situation of breadwinning and familial hierarchy. My personal experience has always been with strong, yet dichotomous women, that would complain no matter who makes more. If she goes out and fulfills her most erstwhile dreams in the workplace and earns respect, money, and recognition then you are forced to endure the complaints that she works entirely too hard and that you cannot understand the hardship she endures for her family…. and she’s not sure how much more she can take….etc. But, she takes this work shit as seriously as a heart attack because it is something that should keep you up at night (obvious sarcasm) because it is that important. And, (this is important to understanding the point about married male self-worth) no matter what her man does, he is never supportive enough. He does not work hard enough. He just doesn’t get it. He’s a insensitive bastard if he sees the workplace as something that should be left at work. That stress is often self-induced. That even if other women in her office (supposed friends) are out to get her and he points out that behavior is as laughable as giving it umbrage. He hardly ever dares to mention that he’s spent his day listening to the kids cry and complain while he remained showerless, doing laundry, dishes, cleaning the house, grocery shopping, cooking dinner and then listening to her bitch at him when she gets home, cause it just ‘aint worth the backlash. What he does cannot possible be as hard as whatever on Earth she would choose to do. He is perpetually bringing sparklers to a missle fight. As an added bonus, he gets three weeks a month (the week before, during and after) where she’s teetering on hormonally induced insanity (to which only she can laughingly refer to) to try and have sex, only to be scolded again for his lack of sensitivity. Meanwhile, again, he only talks to internet nerds online, rarely leaves a house filled with a Thomas the Tank Engine soundtrack and when he dares to suggest that she watch the kids for a few moments so he can shower or run a quick errand without a child in-tow, there is always a look, a grumble, a pointed shrug, to again suggest that he’s not pulling his weight by such a suggestion. He used to have friends, but unless they are her friends or fit into whatever she has planned for the next 20 million evenings and weekends, they fade into the oblivion of the past. He builds up like a geyser and spirals into eventual madness and explodes into a very serious argument where he actually does hurt her goddamn feelings because something has to come out that reminds her that she is fucking nuts and treats him like he is some piece of shit servant. After which, of course, he apologizes because no forgiveness for telling the truth will ever be given until he does so. Then, you get to occasionally go out with her to one of her work events and people give you subtle looks and ask you what it’s like being the ‘stay-at-home’ and there’s always an implied frown and disapproval that you are somehow a deadbeat and making your wife go out and do something horrible, and the men look at you and say, “man, you’re so lucky” and you contemplate murder because aside from the dumbassed statement they’ve just made, you’re certain that given any kind of an opening they would try to fuck your wife (the two-toned collar, slick-haired, needle-dick, power-mongering fuckwits). But, instead of murder, you get whiplashed, splattering drunk and take potshots at any asshole within earshot and eventually piss on your own shoes….
Yet, you are happy. You love, admire and respect your wife. You have no desire to end your marriage. Actually, the thought of it’s end makes you nauseatingly sad. You understand and appreciate your place in the unit. You shame yourself for your petty angers. You get up and start each day as fresh as you can. And, you understand that everyone’s life is difficult and unique in its own way and you really are lucky even if two-toned collar man does still need as ass-whuppin.’ And, above all else, you remember you ’aint perfect and neither is she and you love her for it.
That’s really only the tip of the iceberg.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 11, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Pops come on now...don't hold back
Vent it…vent it hard…
Can I use parts of this in my next novel…this is good stuff…esp. like the The Thomas the Tank ref.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
expound/d
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 11, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather be the stay-at-home dad
just to eliminate the work stress. But not under the harsh conditions your describe.
My wife is wonderful, and I thank her nearly every day for the work she does. I thank her for every meal she cooks, and help whenever I feel I can re: housework. I don’t mind housework, as it’s a favor I’m doing for someone I completely love.
But I make 3x what she can make, and she can’t make much more as a teacher than we’d pay annually for child care. So I’m at work, she’s at home with the 3-year-old, and there’s no other realistic option for us, other than selling everything we won and moving to someplace cheap that has poor weather, be it a trailer in the desert or my childhood home in Dayton (mortgage quote: $212/month vs. the $3250/month out here).
Pops, I wonder what she would say if she read your tirade…
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 11, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
everything we own
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 11, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
That was nothing more
than an outsized, one sided jest to please Ol’ Mads. I’m a writer. It’s (more refined when not a one-off in a blog) what I do. It was intended as black satire disguised as catharsis. Nothing more. She knows me well enough to know that’s what I do.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 11, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I am humbled and honored, sir.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
You have never been to a custody hearing, I see
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
And not to open another can of worms (joining the party late and all)
but demographic numbers and statistics don’t talk about the emotional benefits for each. I’m not sure I buy the “single women are happier” bit either.
Also, many, many women want kids, and right now, it is still financially, socially, and practically MUCH easier to be a mother if there is a legally bound father in the house.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Single women over 35 have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning than getting married.
I imagine that most of them are less than happy about that.
I married a 36-year-old lady myself.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
that's not true
It’s an urban legend, begun when the media misreported some research.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Was she 35 when you married or is she 35 now...
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I think the emotional benefits are part of the stats
Health, success, happiness…they are in part due to the emotional benefits (and costs).
In particular, I think women tend to be more social than men. Obviously, individuals vary, and this may be due to socialization rather than hard-wiring… but it’s often the woman who is in charge of a family’s social life. She’s the one who keeps in contact with both families, who throws dinner parties where business and social networking can occur, arranges the carpools with the neighbors, etc.
I think single women are more likely than single men to have a rich social life, to be connected to community through their families. They don’t “need” marriage as much as men. “My son’s my son ‘til he takes him a wife. My daughter’s my daughter the rest of her life.”
As for kids…it’s possible now for women to raise children on their own, and I think that’s a big reason why fewer women are choosing to marry.
Also, the years where you really need a second parent around are relatively brief. Cross-cultural and historical data suggest that what humans are really designed for is serial monogamy. We tend to fall in love for about 4-5 years – enough time to have a kid and raise him until he’s old enough to walk on his own and doesn’t need to be carried.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Men are hard-wired differently than women.
We do not experience emotions the same way.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
a friend of mine
Went on Prozac for awhile. She didn’t like it, though, and soon quit. One of the side effects for her was “flattened affect.” She was no longer depressed, but nothing made her really happy, either.
She told me, “This must be what it’s like to be a man.”
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I took Welbutrin
it didn’t really help or hurt, except I couldn’t sleep, and I wasn’t suppose to drink. When I did drink I would be real shaky the next day, so it had to go.
Now Klonapin is a good time.
by justin007000 on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Some have accused me of not experiencing them at all :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Women are terribly complex.
Women are so complex that they cannot understand the simplicity of men. We want food, sex, pride, sleep, friends, and fun. Not much more, and we’re usually not too picky about the form these things take.
Men are so simple that they cannot fully comprehend women’s complexities. We usually mean what we say, and that is too often read as a slight to the woman, due to her emotional being or sensitivities that we easily overlook. “That gal’s hair looks great,” can be taken to mean that the woman’s hair is better than hers…should she change her hair? Does she not look good today? Does he like a different kind of woman than I’ll ever be? Is he looking at other women? Is he cheating? Who’s he looking at the rest of the day? Why didn’t her compliment HER today? You know who else had hair like that? His ex-girlfriend. That whore. I she thinking about her? Well, he won’t be getting any tonight. Let him get by tonight on memories of that whore ex of his. What nerve!"
Truth is, we just NOTICED the stranger’s hair. We didn’t even necessarily like it all that much, but we noticed it. But now he might have made her feel bad in a handful of ways that he doesn’t even understand, especially since by now he’s daydreaming about a corndog.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 11, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
What do men get out of marriage?
Monogamy…not a plus.
Paternity…there are tests for that.
Children…can be had without marriage (although I am not a fan of that)
Co-habitation = compromises
End of relationship is easy, compared to divorce.
Divorce…if you’re never married, you never go through that.
Alimony, even if she cheats and leaves you…a lifetime of payments to a woman who ruined your life. Men almost never get alimony.
Custody…almost always goes to the woman.
Less sex than in a non-married relationship
Chores & sex…wives are more expensive than hiring maids and call girls, even with the joint IRS filing benefit.
Forced child support payments in some situations where the child is not paternally the husband’s, because she fraudulently put his name on the birth certificate.
She can hit you, call the cops, say you hit her, and you’ll spend the night in jail. In relationships, you can leave and it will never happen again. In a marriage, she’ll have opportunities to do it again.
Marriage doesn’t legally or morally guarantee ANYTHING.
That said, I am happily married, but we wouldn’t have ever gotten married if we weren’t gonna have kids.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Question
since I just thought of this and am too lazy to figure out a good way to google it: can you put child custody arrangements in a pre-nup?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Never.
The child’s rights can never be bargained away.
A sperm donor who helped a lesbian couple conceive two children is liable for child support under a Pennsylvania state appellate court ruling.
A Superior Court panel last week ordered a Dauphin County judge to establish how much Carl L. Frampton Jr. would have to pay to the birth mother of the 8-year-old boy and 7-year-old girl.
But Frampton, 60, of Indiana, Pennsylvania, died suddenly of a stroke in March, leaving lawyers involved in the case with different theories about how his death may affect the precedent-setting case.
Jodilynn Jacob, 33, and Jennifer Lee Shultz-Jacob, 48, moved in together as a couple in 1996, and were granted a civil-union license in Vermont in 2002. In addition to conceiving the two children with the help of Frampton — a longtime friend of Shultz-Jacob’s — Jacob also adopted her brother’s two older children, now 12 and 13.
But the women’s relationship fell apart, and Jacob and the children moved out of their Dillsburg, Pennsylvania, home in February 2006. Shortly afterward, a court awarded her about $1,000 a month in support from Shultz-Jacob. Shultz-Jacob later lost an effort to have the court force Frampton to contribute support — a decision that the Superior Court overturned April 30.
Jacob, who now lives in Harrisburg, said Frampton provided some financial support over the years and gradually took a greater interest in the children. ‘Part of the decision came down because he was so involved with them,’ Jacob said Wednesday. ‘It wasn’t that he went to the (sperm) bank and that was it. They called him Papa."
Oh, and they inseminated the one partner at home – no doctor and no legal agreement. Ouch!
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
And this is not the only such case.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I've often wondered...
If a couple agreed that they didn’t want to have kids, could they, before conception, sign an agreement that if she gave birth to a child against his wishes, that she would have to pay a guaranteed sum to the man monthly (but not specifically tied to child support)?
Perhaps you could work it to where she agreed to pay him a sum monthly, but he could voluntarily waive it each month. He could then, in the case of an unwanted child, stop waiving that monthly codicil which was signed prior to conception, and thereby has no legal ties to child support.
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I used to joke that I only got married because of the insurance benefits.
For me it was a knowledge, an overwhelming sense of rightness and comparability that made me WANT to be with the FMM. The marriage ceremony was just a rite of passage, but for us it, we really meant it. Sickness and Health, richer and poorer all that stuff can be achieved with co-habitation but the ceremony before family and friend and peers was mighty powerful in so many ways.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Yeah, my wife and I actually MEANT that sickness and health caveat.
Promising to be there forever for a person, even if they are horrifically maimed, scarred, or debilitated, is a big promise. It shouldn’t be something that is cast away because one person gets the hots for someone outside the marriage.
This often happens with marriages that come from relationships started before age 21 whereas people have not “shopped around” much, and start coveting others. 80% of marriages in this age range end in divorce. That sucks. :(
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
The FFM was 20 when I wooed her to the altar.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
12, you say, yeah thats me.
And I have learned a lot. Somethings practical, and some not. No more Aries, no more Boars, love ya, we set the house on fire together, but then… yeah, the house is less fun when the fire is gone.
by Eastwindquinn on Feb 9, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
"......be INTENSELY careful about pregnancy."
Where the hell were you in my formative years??
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I know my last pregnancy
was very hard on me.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
If I was yer big brother,
I would have taken you out in the yard and pounded the lesson into you.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
You couldn't find a better phrase than "pounded.....into you" to use when talking about pregnancy? :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
the hatching
was immaculate
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Yeah.
No worries there. We both know that would pretty well screw things up. And we both know that it would be stupid to even think about things like engagement until we’re both relatively secure with money and jobs and all that. And that’s quite a ways down the road.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
yeah
i kinda had the last 3 years of my life sucked away by two self absorbed women (not at the same time, just pretty much back to back, which is probably also not smart) who really didn’t care about me. I gave them all the emotional support they needed, and when I needed it they were no where to be found.
Hell my now ex-fiance called me once crying because she was in a traffic jam, and I talked her down. Yet when my grandfather died she was too sleepy to talk to me.
Or the best one, last May when she graduated she was spending like 12 hours a day looking for a job. I talked to her every day about about it, told her she was a good job candidate, these are just shitty times. I listened to her cry about how she just wanted to start her life. I made sure she got out of the house, took her to dinner, took her to the park, just made sure her life was more then job searching.
A few weeks ago, a few days before she broke it off with me, I was rejected for a summer job that I thought i was well qualified for. I told her that, and she proceeded to explain to me how I just can’t think I’m the best job candidate, that there were probably lots of better candidates. Thanks for the empathy, wish I would have treated you the same when you were job hunting.
So I am inclined to agree with you.
by justin007000 on Feb 9, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
she works for an answering service in Hamilton
so she did find a job, but not a career job. So if any of you Cincinnati area people call your Doctor, landlord, plumber, or some other sorta business after hours, you may talk to my ex-fiance, as they answer for it seems like almost every doctor in the Cincinnati area and a lot of businesses.
I hate to say it
but those are closing in on what we laughingly call “career” positions here in the United Services of America. If she would learn a Hindi accent, that would make it more authentic.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
russian mail order bride
is scam, Justin.
Not that will keep folks from doing it.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Now exactly
HOW IN FUCK did this end up HERE?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I hate machines
and computers.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Looks right to me
If you click on the “up” tag, it takes you up to Justin’s Russian bride comment.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
well i feel slightly better
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
In Soviet Russia, bride orders mail!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Feb 9, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In fascist America...
…bride orders male around!
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
becoming a fiance
is like signing a national letter of intent to play basketball at Evansville.
You just waste everyone’s time for 18 months, then you move on. So as long as you have eligibility, don’t sweat the details.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
by johnu1 on Feb 9, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Brilliant analogy, rec'd
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
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"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
'Round these parts?
Cousins.
IAN! I'm on traain!
by andromache on Feb 9, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I feel like this is something that usually does not lead to fiance-ship.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
unless you are in prison
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by Slyde on Feb 9, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Very nice.
Whoremouth.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
If "objectifying" means giving me a tiny adorable kitten,
objectify me all you like, peoples of the world.
IAN! I'm on traain!
The only problem with kittens is that they grow up to be cats
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Feb 9, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not if you kill them as soon as they start to grow
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 9, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Or sign the damn prenup that says the cat goes back to her.
by Brian B on Feb 9, 2010 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if i ever have a divorce involving a cat
unless I’m working a career where I can’t be around to take care of it, I want the damned cat.
Once you're 25,
you’ll realize that no one pussy is all that special.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not sure on this one.
It may not wanna talk to you (or me) it may, say, have a mental disorder, and it may be too young to hang out with your friends socially, but I do believe special is out there, just like it used to be.
by Eastwindquinn on Feb 9, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
How in Hades has this not been rec'd yet?
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
I just go out and see
if I can find a decent boa constrictor and have it move in with the cat.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Bestiality is not a choice.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
It's a compulsion.
A victimless compulsion. :P
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
the stage before fiance is
… exceptionally horny.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
my comments would be far more enlightening
if they landed on the board where I intended them to be placed.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
madville'ed
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 9, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Sheldon
on which Reds are out of options:
RHP Bronson Arroyo, RHP Homer Bailey, IF/OF Wladimir Balentien, RHP Francisco
Cordero, RHP Mike Lincoln and RHP Nick Masset.
This should only really affect Balentien, and possibly Lincoln. But remember, Lincoln is owed $2 million this season and pitched well for most of 2008 before his neck injury limited him to 19 games in 2009.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I would prefer for Bailey to have an option
mostly because he is still really young. I was one of the fans clamoring for his call up in 2007, but now I think he and the Reds would have been better to let him spend that season in AAA, and started his option clock in 2008.
Well, look at the people who have commented.
Expect anything different?
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
I was crunk, my bad.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I fooled all of you!! I win!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
A sure sign of the apocalypse.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
And surely not a sign of the Oktoberfest.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions
and last night i was drinking
and didn’t post on Redreporter when I returned home. So crazy stuff is happening all around.
by justin007000 on Feb 10, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
After re-reading all the posts and comments I am thinking about getting divorced and moving to Oklahoma where polygamy is legal.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
That's a victimless crime that should not be illegal.
Government should make no rules about love or personal lives.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
its not actually the polygamy that is bothersome
the problem came about when FLDS mormon men started taking 12-year-old girls as wives, but not legally, and then all those “single” girls/women who were also mothers of many starting milking the U.S. welfare system. The mormon world of polygamy is so corrupt, the U.S. just said fuck it and outlawed the whole thing. I don’t really have a problem with that.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
so you have time to post that
but no death pool?
PS: I’m just busting your balls.
But seriously when are we going to see the death pool?
by justin007000 on Feb 10, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
BTW, I'm really sorry, but the check is in the mail now
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
its ok.
on second thought, i might put the post up today without all the money, then just harass whomever until i get it all. im snowed in today anyway
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
I've hit the wife up 3 times for a check.
I even let her know that an envelope with a stamp would work. I need to bust her chops hard tonight. :P
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
oh, yeah you do!
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Sent mine on Monday, hope you get it soon
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 10, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
10 days in
and already better then last year.
by justin007000 on Feb 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Salinger fucked me
Bastard couldn’t hang on for a couple more days?
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
he would have been on my list too
He was on my list last year and I fully planned on him remaining.
by justin007000 on Feb 11, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I can't understand how a 3 or 4 or 5 party marriage could work as intimately as a 2 person marriage does.
But then I’m old and in the way….speaking of the death pool…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
at any rate, its not a victimless crime, and polygamy has very little to do with love
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
Ain't talkin' 'bout love!
Your love is rotten to the core.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Feb 10, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Between consenting adults, I have no problem with it.
If I found a gal who was hot and didn’t mind taking on most of the housework, my wife would take the idea under advisement. :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
right
the law’s not for you and your dream threesome, though.
Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...
by boobs on Feb 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Then the law should exclude my dream threesome. :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
wtf is all this baseball stuff stuck in here?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
by johnu1 on Feb 9, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Here
We’ll get back on point. (NSFW)
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 9, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
dang, just in
I cleared the snow off my driveway. Not bad for a guy who can barely breathe. I hate to bring up that smoking thread again.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
My better half did it
Man it’s nice to be dating someone who’s not a deadbeat. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
wait till the bill arrives
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
seriously and this relates back
my ex-wife is a Russian and loved the snow. I had no problem putting the shovel in her capable hands.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Hence your comment about the Russian mail-order business, eh?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
the mail order bride scam
My ex was not a mail order bride but because of our relationship, we got to know a lot of Russians, bad good and ugly, and we learned the nature of how that scam developed and who generally runs them.
It’s sad because I had to talk at least 2 guys in off the ledge after they got conned out of thousands of dollars and a plane ticket to some village that didn’t have an airport.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
It's like a bait and switch
But since it’s Soviet Russia, it’s a swait and bitch.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Yeah, not my best work
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
first off
A guy sets up an Internet platform where the “women” are listed, age/sex/location/education.
That would include Inga, Svetlana, Olga, Maria, Yulia … all eloquent in English, all professional people, educated and naturally “willing” to be a perfect wife/mother/loyal and obedient servant. All of them naturally look pretty svelte and are between the ages of 18 and 30.
Secondly, some of this actually turns into sex traffic trade, and can get as ugly as your mind will allow.
Third, you make arrangements for the woman to come to the U.S. but that will never happen because she will never EVER get a visa. So you just send her money because she is telling you that the only way she can get that green card is to pay a bribe of … well, the price keeps going up on that.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I correct myself
reference to green card should be “visa” … green cards are issued after she comes here.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
the sex trade aspect of it
At times, there are “agencies” on the other end who work with the “agencies” on the Russian (this isn’t just Russia and in fact usually IS NOT, these days) who demand women in exchange for their investment.
These young women are not hard to find.
What happens to them after that, as the Russians say “per sevus ny-at.”
Who knows?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
im going to have to re-read all the relationship advice tomorrow
definitely a good argument
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
only when i click on this thread do i get:
Warning: Visiting this site may harm your computer!
In addition i just suffered through an extremely odd beer, Redbridge from A/B. Gluten free. it tasted sour.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Perhaps one of the picture links is to a NAUGHTY SITE!
You know, like Romper Room…or VH1.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
are you a gluten-free goddess?
I went to the AB Brewery Tour on Friday. It’s a pretty well-done gig, I gotta say. Doesn’t cost a dime, and they give you 2 (though you could easily get more) 8 oz. beers at the end. But they didn’t let me get a Michelada. They said they used to offer ’em, but nobody ever got one and when they did, the clam juice stunk up the joint.
My favorite part, though, was when they have their entire product line enclosed in a glass case. Including Hurricane, Bud Ice, Natural Ice, etc.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
regarding Jay Bruce;
I have previously predicted and will do so again:
Jay Bruce will become a major MLB star in2010.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
MadvilleBrucelovechild on a stick
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 11, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Damn this thread loads slow
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Sure does.
Not sure why…the pictures are all less than 30k, except for about 5 that are between 30k and 75k.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 12, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Zizzy Mane / Jay Bruce
I think this Zach “Zizzy Mane” Hall guy seems pretty cool. He went on a baseball website to do an interview.. Not many well known musicians do that. Judging by Zizzy Manes myspace, I bet the Jay Bruce theme song is going to be amazing! I cant wait to hear it in march!
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