Red Reposter - The Reds + Cabrera - Taveras = Smile
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 11:00 AM EST
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What a difference, huh?
"In the last three weeks -- beginning with the surprise Jan. 11 signing of Cuban defector Aroldis Chapman through Monday's signing of veteran shortstop Orlando Cabrera and the trading away of Willy Taveras -- Reds general manager Walt Jocketty has moved Cincinnati from likely also-ran to a potential preseason sleeper. "I'm excited about it," Jocketty said on Monday. "Obviously, we've been able to do some things to improve our club that I wasn't sure we'd be in position to do. A lot of it was being patient and waiting for the market to drop to our level, I guess, where we could afford to do some things."
Throw in the Scott Rolen restructuring/extension, the Ramon Hernandez below-market contract, and the apparently savvy non-tendering of Jonny Gomes (and perhaps a subsequent re-signing?), and you got yerself one purty darned good off season. I wouldn't go so far just yet as to call the Reds a "potential preseason sleeper", but this baseball team is moving briskly in the right direction. It feels great to say that. -
Hall o' Famer Hal isn't all that excited about bringing Orlando Cabrera aboard
He reminds him too much of Alex Gonzalez. Can't say I disagree. The key difference is that Gonzo was signed for 3 years and almost $15 mil. The Reds will likely only pay Cabrera $3 mil to be a stop-gap this season. Oh, and Cabrera is Cal Ripken compared to Gonzo, at least in terms of durability. It terms of on-field play though, it's kinda hard to tell the difference between the two. -
Jay Bruce says last season was important
"The adversity I dealt with last year was pretty serious," said Bruce, who will turn 23 on April 3. "Everyone should deal with adversity, and I'm going to use it as a positive to come back this year and be the player that I know I can be."
Bruce worked out all winter and started hitting a month ago. I would have liked to see him play that month of winter ball in the DWL, but I ain't mad at 'im. -
MetsBlog has been beating the drum for the Mets to get Aaron Harang or Bronson Arroyo AND Brandon Phillips all winter
I'm not saying this particular Mets fan is delusional. The Reds DID say (what seems like years ago) that payroll was a major problem and intimated that major pieces could be dealt. But that clearly isn't happening now. It must suuuuuuck to be a Mets fan. The Reds perceived financial trouble is basically all they have to hang their hats on now. Just one more reason to send Ol' Walter a heart-felt valentine this year instead of those phony prank ones I usually send. -
Aaron Gleeman at Circling the Bases says the A's essentially made the trade
so they could pay Adam Rosales $800k a season for the next three. That's still pretty cheap for a decent utility infielder. That being said, it's an incredible deal for the Reds. I like it for the A's, but i looooove it for the Reds. Love it. -
You know, Adam Rosales' goofy, home-spun, Opiecharm is much easier to swallow from afar
Reds GM "Walt Jocketty called and said they had to make a move, and that there was a better opportunity in Oakland than there was in Cincinnati right now," (Rosales) said. "It's the first time I've ever been traded. The Reds drafted me and gave me my first opportunity to be a professional baseball player. "I had a little heartbreak feeling, but that's what baseball is, and I got a call from Billy Beane and he sounded excited to have me as part of the Oakland A's organization, so I was excited as well." I genuinely wish Rosie all the success he could hope for out By the Bay. -
The Reds are giving you a chance to win tickets to Opening Day
'course, real fans go to game 2. -
Doug Gray reviews Drew Stubbs' 2009 season
Stubbs had an up-and-down season, down in April, up in May, down in June. His 10% walk rate is good, and his 23% K-rate is acceptable if he can find a bit more pop or a few more walks. There has been a great argument going on in the Taveras Trade thread about whether Stubbs is the best option as the Reds' starting CF. If you aren't already following that, give it a look-see.
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Just picked this up over the wire: David Coleman at Crawfish Boxes responds to an article by Houston Chronicle writer Bernardo Fallas
Fallas wonders if the Astros should go after dearly departed Willy Taveras. Coleman, on the other hand, doesn't. He does a pretty job of arguing why Taveras should never play major league baseball ever again. Damn, am I glad to be so successfully rid of him. HT to BBTF
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Speaking of Gomes
Anybody heard anything about Jonny?
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
I guess Walt's keeping that one ridiculously close to the vest, no?
If we have the $ to bring Gomes back, we might as well, since I shudder to think of a lineup containing both Dickerson & Stubbs as starters. The only problem with that is that Gomes historically has struggled against RHP, and it just so happens that the majority of arms the Reds face all year are RHP. Quite the conundrum.
Why can’t END, or Nix, or Balentien, or Dickerson just make it easier on all of us and just tear the goddamn cover off the ball in ST in significant time, and solve our LF problem?
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why you'd worry so much about a lineup with both C-Dick and Stubbs in it, at least against righties.
Power is important, but OBP is more so. Plus, it’s possible CDick would be the leadoff hitter and Stubbs would be lower.
Unless Heisey or Wlad really impress and win the job outright (a likely outcome, IMHO), I think the best possible scenario is a Gomes/CDick platoon in LF. Dickerson has shown power in the past against righties, but it doesn’t matter to me if he OBPs .360-.370 against them.
As far as Gomes, I’d imagine he’s still waiting to see if he can get a major league contract with another club, or at least one with more incentives.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
by nycredsfan on Feb 4, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure, if The Dusty leads Dickerson off, and bats Stubbs anywhere between 6 and 8, then we might have something
I fear it’ll be the other way around. Stubbs won’t get on base leading off as much as Dickerson will, and Dickerson’s next to useless batting in the 6, 7, or 8 slot given his limited power and the assumption of weaker hitters also in that same 6-8 area.
Everyone can see my transparency though, I’m just really concerned about Stubbs at the plate.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
NYC, agree with above, providing they decide to go with Stubbs in CF full-time
but do you like Wald or Gomes in left. I’d almost rather see Balentin get the shot
I've been saying since August that I'd like to see Wlad get a shot to do the job full time
if he sucks, then Heisey, Dickerson, Frazier, END, somebody can take his place in May or June.
But to me he still has a ton of upside.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
I don't know, I guess Jocketty likes him and he wants as much depth as possible
Probably why he non-tendered him and is only offering a minor league deal
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
I once heard he was overmatched by MLB pitching...
by Ewok on Feb 4, 2010 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know who else was overmatched by MLB pitching?
Adam Rosales
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
and Paul Jannish
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
Who?
What, me? Being negative? No. Never.
by Paul Householder on Feb 5, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Don't hang your head Pete
I. for one. know that you ran out every walk and never once quit on a pop – up.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
heh
9th grade was too much for me. stupid slow pubescence.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I can safely say that being a Reds fan is much preferable to being a Mets fan right now
this despite their likely opening day payroll of $140-150 million. This offseason has been such a disaster, and after the last few terrible seasons, fans are getting restless.
The Reds moves this week have actually caused some Mets fans to honestly think “Hey, maybe this means we could get Bronson Arroyo and Brandon Phillips for Castillo, Angel Pagan, and a low level pitcher!” They are getting more desperate and delusional by the day. I can honestly say I’ve felt like that as a Reds fan often, and damn, it feels good to not be feeling that way now.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Seems like all off-season
There have been people making posts about how the Reds are shopping AH or BA hard and how they have to move one or more players.
being a Reds fan
… kind of warms up the winter. I was just meandering about the Cubs pasture and I’d say the general notion there isn’t of despair but … well, if you went out to buy new garden tools, which would be better … and Carlos Silva makes the list.
Delusional? They’re hoping this guy might have enough in his tank to make the back end of the rotation. I know I’m rooting for that.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
Wow, that is a great picture...
He kind of looks like death.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Nah, we all know Death is Swedish not Colombian.
Also, he prefers chess to baseball.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 4, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn straight!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 4, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
the 8th
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
He always looks like he should have been called Manatee
(Damn outboard engines!)
by Brendanukkah on Feb 5, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, we have an initial candidate for a nickname for him now.
We have Death (La Muerte) Cabrera up next…
What, me? Being negative? No. Never.
by Paul Householder on Feb 5, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
"Verdugo" is Spanish for EXECUTIONER'S HOOD.
That’s pretty badass…
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Have to agree with Hal on Cabrera
but the Reds are paying fair market value for him. If he can be split the difference between 0.5 (CHONE) – 1.4 WAR (fans), he’ll be worth his contract. If he can capitalize on a return to the NL and get back to where he was in ‘07 and ’08 – around 3.5 WAR with around league-average OBP and defense closer to his career norms – it’ll be a boon. In either case, he adds much-needed MLB depth over a one-year contract. I still would like to see the alternate universe where Janish gets a chace to be full-time starter.
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2010 11:51 AM EST reply actions
uh oh
Dave Cameron at FanGraphs says the Reds look like they could contend this season.
I guess I’m just surprised at the level of, well, surprise surrounding talk of the Reds as contenders. They have some good hitters, some good fielders, and some good enough pitchers. They were nearly a .500 team a year ago while wasting at-bats on the likes of Willy Taveras, and he’s thankfully been excised from the roster.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions
ex-cise [ik-sahyz]
dictionary.com says " to cut out or off, as a tumor."
YES
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Feb 4, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gouged, sliced out, made waste, etc . . .
thank you. "Don’t let the door . . .
Racing to GOODYEAR !!!
GO REDS !!
It's GO time !
Cabrera - Gonazalez
“It terms of on-field play though, it’s kinda hard to tell the difference between the two.”
Really?
How about the fact that Cabrera’s OBP, OPS and BA are all 30 points higher than Gonzalez?
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fine
i suppose if i squint, i can see a difference between a SS that OPS’s .720 and one that OPS’s .689.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No need...
…to squint.
Just look for the player who has never hit over .280 in a single season, and then look at the player who has hit over .280 4 years in a row.
There’s a pretty clear difference. Alex Gonzalez at his best is as good as Orlando Cabrera’s average season.
And does durability mean nothing? Gonzalez hasn’t playevved more than 130 games a season since 2004. He’s good for about 100 games a year. Cabrera during that span has averaged over 150 games a year.
Just let Will Carol from baseball prospectus explain it to you:
Scott (DC): I’m trying to get a handle on the Reds’ signing of Cabrera. How much value, if any, does durability add to a player like that? That is, theoretically being able to pencil him in for 150+ games.
Will Carroll: He’s good defensively — or at least that’s his reputation. I still don’t have a defensive stat I trust (or understand) that I’ll hang something on. Durability is huge for the Reds. I’m beginning to wonder if that section of the GAP is cursed. A whole ton of injuries there over the past couple years. Cabrera’s better than Paul Janish and not that expensive, so a nice little signing for Jocketty, I think.
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2010 and we're still using AVG as a stat to compare players
tisk tisk
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
HR, RBI, SB, CS, R, HBP, BB, IBB, 2B, 3B...
…Pitches per PA, Total Cuaffles…
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
"Total Cuaffles"
wasnt that one of Maddy’s bands back in the 60s?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
close Charlie
I had a band called Rebop Snazzy, in the mid ’70s but we later changed the name to “The Throbbing Cuaffles” it was shortened by our fans to Cuaffle-Throbber and later morphed into Rot the Cuaffle and that version was fairly popular in out of the way places like Thermopolis, Montana,Shoshone Montana, Shoshone, Idaho, Kanopolis, Kansas and Pocahontas, iowa…
We put out some CDs uhnder the name of Brave Guise but by then I’d moved on to newer and more exciting musical formats using a ‘Cagian’ randomness in my compositions…
but more on That later.
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
by Madville on Feb 4, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Running out to one's position.
What, me? Being negative? No. Never.
by Paul Householder on Feb 5, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
s'up Paul!
"Television has brought back murder into the home - where it belongs."
Alfred Hitchcock 1899 - 1980
here's what i said in the op
Oh, and Cabrera is Cal Ripken compared to Gonzo, at least in terms of durability. It terms of on-field play though, it’s kinda hard to tell the difference between the two.
obviously, the durability issue is huge. in fact, it’s damn near everything. but as for the on-field performance, im still not sold. sure, he’s better. a .720 OPS > a .689 OPS. but he’s still below average.
as for defense, UZR has a pretty solid sample size of data on these two guys. since ‘02 Cabrera’s UZR/150 is 3.8. Gonzo’s is 6.9. so they are both slightly above-average defenders.
i just dont see anything to be excited about with Cabrera, which is precisely what i would say about Gonzo as well.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps...
I agree, it’s not like we signed Hanley Ramirez. Is he anything to “get excited about?” Well that depends…
Don’t get me wrong, I am pretty stat-heavy when analyzing a player. But I think anyone would be willing to admit that OPS never tells the entire story.
Sac flies might be something that this crowd will laugh at – deeming it a “team dependent” stat. But how would you explain the fact that Cabrera lead the AL in sac flies 3 out of the last 4 seasons, despite playing for 5 different teams?
What’s my point?
Cabrera does a lot of things that don’t show up in OPS. The ability to give the team a quality at bat, moving runners over, is something that this team is in desperate need of, and Cabrera offers that.
Think Fresh! Bring Back Barry!
He gets the bat on the ball, he sez, and that can be good or bad.
Where’s he rank in GIDP now that he’s speed declining?
Not sure on the rank...
…but he he doesn’t lead the league.
He averages about 15 GIDP per 162 games.
Not bad for nearly 700 PA.
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BP is the Soul Plane Flight 643
for the 6-4-3 double play. i know, i dont much care for it either.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
that's what happens when
you try to give a new nickname to a player that already has a dozen or so perfectly acceptable nicknames.
This is why we can't have nice things!
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Feb 4, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Would probably work better as just Soul Plane
Which is fine by me
But we need to ask The Franchise what he thinks about it
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think we need to wait for someone to earn this nickname.
It’s too good just to force it. :)
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Fair enough
someone will emerge to claim Soul Plane
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes he would
He’s challenging Chris Paul and Brandon Roy as my favorite NBA player right now.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
David West, duh
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 6, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Did you see the report
that your clippers are trying to hire Isiah Thomas as their president, GM, and Head coach?
Yes.
Dislike.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 6, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
People who like seeing the very best competitors in their sport, yes
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
HAHAHAHAHA
You lie, you have to. No way.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
My god......
Only Donald Sterling.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Donald Sterling makes Mike Brown
look like George Steinbrenner.
He is the shittiest owner in N. American sports.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 7, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, now I finally get 643!
I thought it was a Lost reference or something.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 5, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
SOUUUUUUUL PLANEEEEE VRRROOOM
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 4, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
That reminded me
Of this, which made me giggle.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Being excited about one's ability to create outs isn't very appealing
I appreciate your defense of Cabrera, and after letting it mull around for a little while, I don’t think he’s going to be a black hole in the lineup and offensively is probably going to be an asset, even if the OBP is lacking for the lineup position that he’s already slotted into. Putting the ball in play hasn’t been an asset for a Reds player in quite some time, especially with guys behind him that can’t get on base. I can see sac flies being more of an asset for a 6 or 7 hitter, not a 2 hitter. Even with all of that, I’d probably still have him in the lineup over Janish in the right spot.
However, the thing you haven’t even mentioned so far is defense. When you factor that into the equation, even comparing the two players, overall Cabrera is a negligible upgrade over Janish (if that), and certainly not a 3 million dollar upgrade. I think that’s why a lot of people don’t like this deal, not because Cabrera is a crappy player.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
First of all...
…it’s not my money, so I don’t care if he’s “worth” 3 million or not. All I’m concerned with is if he is an upgrade. In my mind, he is an upgrade.
Defense is impossible to qualify statistically, so it’s almost ridiculous to try, especially considering that I’ve only seen him play a handful of games.
I also look at the fact that he has consistenly been a major part of playoff teams. Call it luck it you like, but I have to imagine he has had a positive impact on those teams.
Think Fresh! Bring Back Barry!
the first sentence, with the caveat that it especailly applies to one year deals,
should be embossed in gold and mailed to every Red Reporter
Sure, it's not your money
But the amount of money spent on Cabrera is going to have an effect on other personnel decisions, whether you like it or not. $1M here and there could be the difference between the team being able to resign Jonny Gomes or not, or being able to hold onto key players from year to year. The people running the show have already shown that they stick to their budget as well as possible, so that payroll room is valuable whether it comes out of your pocket or not.
Is it an upgrade for this year? Probably. But what about the option for next year, when we have 3 other potential shortstops that could be ready to step in. Will this move hamper their development?
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 4, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not worried about Gomes
because quite frankly, I don’t think he is much better (if at all) than the other options we currently have.
As for SS development, I don’t see how one more year in the minors hampers the development of a players, especially considering none of our other options are major league ready.
Think Fresh! Bring Back Barry!
YOU SUCK
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 4, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
That photo will always, ALWAYS get a rec from me.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 4, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Gomes was just an example
My point is that the money matters because it hampers our ability to acquire and hold on players to help the team.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 4, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
This year? 3 million is going to keep them from making a move
3 million could be what they net for a playoff run. If they are close, and Walt knows in today’s playoffs almost anything can happen, then there is no way they let 1.5 million of Cabrera’s salary stop them from making a move.
IMHO
It's a one year deal
So, I really don’t see any way that the Reds could have improved the team with $3 mil for this season. There are no other free agents available at that price that would have a greater impact on than team than Cabrera.
As for the future, if the Reds have better options next season, you let Cabrera walk. If no one develops, you keep him, again, improving the team.
If the reds had given him a deal like they gave Gonzalez, I could see your point. But a one year deal doesn’t impact future decisions.
Think Fresh! Bring Back Barry!
Well, I mean, he is a 7-hitter in an above average offense
That he’s projected as a 2 in ours.. well.. says something about the manager and depth
Stubbs
Rolen
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Gomes/Balentien/whoever
Cabrera
Hanigan
Yeah, I think it says more about the manager...
A better lineup would be:
Dickerson
Rolen
Votto
Bruce
Phillips
Cabrera
Hanigan
Stubbs
Think Fresh! Bring Back Barry!
Your expectations for Stubbs are far below mine.
And expectations for Bruce exceed mine for opening day.
/END'd
"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza
by beasleymachine on Feb 4, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
I like Stubbs
but I like Dickerson’s ability to get on base.
As for Bruce, his BABIP is going to improve significantly, and I have to imagine he will walk more.
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Did he have a low rate of line drives last year?
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I didn't know that.
Still, I have to imagine his numbers will increase significantly this year.
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Stats
LD%: 22—> 14%
GB/FB: .82→.65
On the up side, he struck out much less (1/3.8 AB vs. 1/4.6), hit more homers per AB and per FB (19.7 vs 15.7 AB/HR, 14.2 % FB-HR vs 15.5%)…
51% were XBH vs 37
Walked almost 2.5% more
Struck out 5% less
So, what do you expect from Stubbs?
You think he can maintain a .350+ OBP?
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Yeah,
which is fine for a young guy with his speed, but that’s why I favor Dickerson in the leadoff.
That .383 OBP would look mighty nice, especially if Rolen, Votto, and Bruce are hitting behind him
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What about a platoon?
Dickerson against righties in leadoff, Stubbs against lefties, and Dickerson out for Gomes against righties because Gomes is just fine in that role. Unless Bladdy’s splits improve.
I could dig that
Dickerson is probably best served in that kind of role.
Although, I’d like to see Heisey get some time in left against LHP
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Oh yeah, he's kinda good.
I’d love to see Heisey, Frazier, and Francisco get 300 MLB PA this year, but that’s asking too much because Dusty.. is Dusty. So I’d like to see them stay in AAA and at least get daily gameplay.
Let's not forget that Bladdy has Bizarro splits:
vs. RHP .692 OPS
vs. LHP .571 OPS
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Anyone care to post Bladdy's minor league splits?
Petey cannot find them. :(
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Career minor league splits
vs. RHP .867 OPS
vs. LHP .812 OPS
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 4, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
no too shabby.
I suppose I'm cast as the darkness, because I comprehended their light not at all; at least not in the way they wanted me to.
Really odd for a right-handed batter.
Too odd for Dusty to use to his advantage.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Man do his peripherals look good.
If he stops hitting fly balls so much, his BABIP should drive that OBP up 20-30 pts at least, and if he walks more… man. His trend (one year doesn’t count as a trend, whatever) is encouraging
i agree on OPS
i dont like it much either. how’s ’bout wOBA? Cabrera – .317, Gonzo – .295. and wOBA does incorporate things like sac flies and other miscellany.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I like OPS...
…I’m just sayinf it doesn’t tell the whole story.
wOBA is nice.
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ahhhh
let’s see if i can put it in terms you can understand.
wOBA is like quaterback rating, only it works.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I read about it and I kinda get it
It’s a combination of OBP and SLG? How is it different from OPS?
What was Joey’s wOBA
oh
and wOBA is a lot like OPS in that it tries to give a well-rounded assessment of a player’s offensive contribution. where OPS adds a player’s OBP and SLG to get a look a player’s ability to avoid outs and hit for extra bases, wOBA does the same thing, but much more precisely.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
So the difference between
wOBA .350 vs .355 is way more different than OPS .710 to .725 or something?
does wOBA scale directly w/ OPS or just like.. correlate?
also
wOBA weights OBP something like twice as much as SLG, so not making outs is worth more than hitting homers and striking out the rest of the time.
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no
because Dunn is also great at not making outs. WAR hates Dunn because WAR is wOBA + defense, and he defends about as well as the French (bazinga).
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Anyone making fun of the French gets a rec from me
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rec'd for bazinga
Sheldon’s word from Big Bang Theory on Monday
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah
i’ll rec a french joke all day long
"Avoid the Clap, Jimmy Dugan. That's good advice!"
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white
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How many Americans got married to Monica Bellucci?
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and Gonzo had major injuries that ruined his defense
whereas for Cabrera it’s just aging, so there’s more reason to hope he’ll be decent
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186 and 77
Those are the number of hits and RBI Cabrera had last season. I think it’s pretty clear the guy can still hit.
He also only struck out once for every ten at bats last season.
Additionally, he led the AL in sac flies, which he has done 3 of the last 4 seasons.
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CK...I'm on your side
except that you are placing way too much emphasis on RBI’s and average for this stat-obsessed crew (which includes me). I don’t care how many hits he had. I care how many outs he makes.
With that said, Hal is wrong about Gonzo versus Cabrera.
I hear ya
And I am typically inclined to value OBP over RBI. For instance, I like Hanigan over Hernandez.
I understnad the complaints about Cabrera’s below average OBP, but sometimes you have to look at the whole picture. Cabrera makes up for hit low OBP with good contact rates, decent speed, and a superb ability to move runners over – all things that Alex Gonzalez (and Paul Janish) do poorly.
Think Fresh! Bring Back Barry!
I've wondered
how much bat control factors into Cabrera’s value. He has good contact rates, but I would tend to think that value is counteracted by low walk rates. But then how much of that RE-counteracted by his ability to advance runners and sacrifice? Maybe it turns makes a .310 wOBA in practical terms into more like a .320 wOBA.
I still think Cabrera’s value, for the Reds, will turn on how his defense compares to Janish’s over a full season. I don’t think anyone has a good handle on this yet. I’m optimistic that he can perform in the medium between his ‘09 and ’08/’07 seasons, which would make this a pretty good signing.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I've been wondering where his OBP will end up this year.
In the three years before last year he had a .335, .345, and .334 OBP, and before that had only 1 year above .325 and that was in his peak offensive year (.347). In his press conference the first thing offensively he said he needed to improve was getting on base more. This makes me wonder if he’s worked on it as a veteran, especially since it went up and stayed up after two down years following his prime years.
So I’m not really sure what to make of it, but I am warming up to the idea of cabrera at short. His season is riding on his defense though, so I’m glad they learned from willy and did the mutual option with him.
Something prospect related
Doug at Redsminorleagues.com references some stuff in BA’s prospect guide (don’t have mine yet) that says the Reds tried out Neftali Soto as a catcher in the instructional leagues, and he picked it up really quickly.
I love the idea. He has a strong arm, he’s athletic, but he lacks range at 3B or in LF. His offense would play HUGE at catcher, and at just 21 y.o. he’s got some time to figure it out. With such little C depth, and Mesoraco a question mark, I love this thinking. It’ll be interesting to see if he plays there at all this season.
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I agree
I think if he picks up C quickly it would accelerate his rise to teh majors. He also makes more sense than Alonso at C……
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i think it would be the other way around
learning to catch would really decelerate his rise to the majors. catchers move slower already, and trying to actually learn the position would only slow him down further. no matter though, i still love the idea.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Normally I'd agree
But the Reds lack of organizational depth at catcher would lead me to think he’d move faster. I agree though, no matter…..it is a good idea nonetheless….
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Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Maybe Willy's money isn't going to Cabrera
Everyone (well, no one here — media types, more like) seems to be saying that getting rid of Taveras freed up money to sign Cabrera. The two transactions were clearly in the works simultaneously, but Walt couldn’t have been counting on getting out from the WT sunk cost when he started negotiating with Cabrera.
Maybe Walt is trying to pull another Chapman signing. He was freeing up money to sign Damon. He’s letting Boras get the rumors going about the Tigers and Mets, then about March 1st he “comes out of nowhere” to sign Damon.
Not at all guaranteed, and it’s only a good idea at the right price. But it’s not totally implausible.
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In the Cabrera press conference Walt did essentially say
the move was made possible by the Taveras trade.
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they likely coensided because of the freeing of the roster spot
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by Dave from Louisville on Feb 4, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
If Stubbs walks 10% of the time, that's amazing by my standards.
For a rookie CF with speed that’ll probably hit like .250, that’s perfectly fine for me. Is it fair to expect an OBP of over .400 for a rook? Probably not. But with time, the walk % and average will creep up toward a slash line of .265/.390… even with just decent power, that projects to nearly .800 OPS from CF with potential to sneak toward .900 as walks, average, and power improve with plate discipline and a MLB workout plan. Am I being too optimistic?
Baseball Cube still likes Stubbs!
Profile
Power: 73
Batting: 60
Speed: 92
Contact: 18
Patience: 73
On the other hand, I’m sure we’ve already talked about his projections and I should be in the “Who should start in CF thread”
But…
2010 PROJECTIONS
LIST AVG R HR RBI SB OPS
Bill James .267 76 11 51 51 .726
CHONE .251 62 10 42 26 .708
Diamond Cutter .270 82 14 48 50 .724
No offense, but when has his OBP ever approached .390?
His minor league career OBP is .360 and that’s damn fine by me. If he can approach that, then we’re golden.
Wishful thinking!
Assuming BB% increases, which is a big assumption, and assuming AVG improvements with coaching (big assumption), we can get close. It’ll take improvement, obviously.
Unrelatedly, Baseball Reference says the most similar batter to Jay Bruce at age 22 is Barry Bonds, with Reggie Jackson, Willie Horton, Adam Dunn also on the top 10 list. Unfortunately so is Wily Mo and Elijah Dukes.
I think it's fair to expect an OBP of over .355, however
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
not the first season
since that is better than his Triple A OBP the last two seasons*
*See, that’s trickery by me, because his OBP’s were .354 and .353! Nonetheless, I doubt he’ll perform to that level in hsi first year. if he does, I will be giggling like a school girl at all the wonderfulness of it all
Something else that hasn't been mentioned in this debate (that I would put in the Taveras thread but that damn thread won't load on my computer)
is that Dickerson’s OBP was largely supported by a .364 BABIP, which inflated his numbers. Put that down to a more reasonable .330 (still above normal, but he’s fast, so I’ll cut him a break) and his OBP drops to around .350ish. Still good, but with the lack of power, nothing special overall.
Also, his huge power in a SSS in 2008 was because he hit a TON of flyballs then.
Last year, his FB% went from 44.6% to 28.7%, meaning unless he gets that FB rate back, his power won’t come back. But if he does get that FB rate back, his BABIP will plummet and his OBP won’t be good. Bottom line, Dickerson’s OPS ceiling over a full season is probably .750-.760, and I’d give Stubbs a great chance of doing that this year, with his ceiling being .800 or higher.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Stubbs reminds me alot of Ryan Sweeney
Mainly based on elite defensive value sweeney put up a 4.1 WAR value in 2009. Though hitting around .290 overall isnt so bad either especially hitting in that tough oakland ballpark, which was balanced out with an .850 road OPS
Despite his lack of OPSing that in 5 of the last 7 minor league seasons?
I say let’s find out. Good luck, Drew
Oh, since you can't check the other thread and all, my last comment was
a pithy, witty, and fact-laden destruction of your position which received 27 recs and turned more green than Chris Dickerson politics. Sorry you can’t see, but you can just take my word for it, right?
by timb116 on Feb 4, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This cracked me right the hell up
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The funniest thing I've seen you post.
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In a word, yes
The OPS for Drew Stubbs will never sneak toward .900
He might crack .800 if all the stars align with the Sun, the Moon, and the Earth, but .900 will never happen.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
What about light tower power? You don’t think he’s ever going to slug .500?
I guess 900 is a bit optimistic.
If he's slugging .500, that means he needs to OBP around .400 for a .900 OPS (math is fun!)
I like Stubbs to maybe OBP around .400 one day, but SLG .500, no way
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 4, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
What is Math?
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Baseball America on the trade
Reds Jettison Willy Taveras, But At A Cost
The Deal
The Athletics play hot potato with the recently-acquired Aaron Miles, sending the second baseman (plus either a player to be named or cash) to the Reds for another player with an outsized contract, center fielder Willy Taveras. Oakland also receives 26-year-old third baseman Adam Rosales, who may offer a bit of utility if he can double as a middle-infield backup.
Cincinnati draws immediate value from the deal because it opens a 40-man roster spot for it to sign free agent shortstop Orlando Cabrera. Upon trading for Taveras, the A’s promptly designated him for assignment, which could precipitate another trade or result in the 2008 National League stolen base champ returning to Triple-A.
While Rosales enjoyed a huge month in the International League before his callup last year, one that could not possibly be sustained, his track record suggests that he is not without offensive upside. He logged an .802 OPS with Louisville in 2008 and a .926 figure with Double-A Chattanooga in 2007. His swing can get loopy, but he makes solid contact, manages the strike zone and hits for adequate power. Rosales can fill in at shortstop but lackes the range to play there every day. Third base ought to be his defensive home most of the time because of an above-average, accurate arm and soft hands.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2010/269462.html
This is wrong
his track record suggests that he is not without offensive upside
Actually, it’s the complete opposite of this. His track record suggests that he’s not a very good baseball player.
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by BK on Feb 4, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
really?
his track record is a career minor-league OPS of .863. sure, his upside isnt great, but i would not be surprised if he turns in a few seasons of average WAR.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I've always known you to be a rational, brilliant stat dude
Aaron Miles sucks
by Ewok on Feb 4, 2010 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Your track record suggests you should never select a burger
by Ewok on Feb 4, 2010 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Your track record suggests you should never select a utility infielder
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by BK on Feb 4, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
lemmee do some mebbees
What if, just what IF, the A’s have somebody in their system who believes (thinks, hopes) he can teach Willy T how to get to first base?
If that happens, what do you get when you mix a Model T with a Willys?
A couple of old cars?
For 4 million buckaroos, we shall see.
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I appreciate the comment
all the same, I am desperately trying to pull Bucky Beane out of the abyss of despair right now, trying to reach some kind of reasonable conclusion as to why he and the A’s made this trade. There is nothing short of extortion that comes to mind.
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Its been discussed
They had $$ to spend, basically to take on $3 mill from miles/taveras (+$1 mill cash from cubs), they added 2 potentially useful players in jake fox and rosales. Later on Fox was addedto their 1b/DH type depth w/ barton,carter, doolittle, etc which allowed them to trade brett wallacefor michael taylor. Fox looked to be their DH in 2010, then they signed Jack Cust for a slightly below market deal. For Rosales, they were looking for a utility type after missing out on carroll/jerry hairston in free agency earlier.
Of course the following moves resulted in a DFA of taveras,eveland, etc. Havent heard much on their value so far, but dbacks are showing some interest in eveland and some article about astros and taveras. We’ll see in about 7 days on their situations
What else more is there to understand?
nothing more to understand ...
… provided the premise that somebody believes Taveras can be taught to hit isn’t dismissed as laughable folly. Why else would you even accept a player into your organization if you had no reason to use him for something?
Even if you wanted to release him, it still has to have some form of value attached to it. If you didn’t pay money for his contract, that’s another matter.
The focus is on Rosales from the Reds POV as well as the removal of Taveras from the roster. Yeah, and … there is plenty not to understand about trading for a guy and his $4 MILLION contract if your only objective was to DFA him. No matter what other parts of this deal are discernable components, I need rational belief that they have something in mind that quantifies this otherwise absurd move.
To simply say they had money to spend is like — why I don’t go just chuck my paycheck at the casino because I just paid the utility bill. “Hell, we got a utility infielder in the deal, so screw the $4 million. We didn’t need it anyhow.”
I think they got a nice player in Fox, but he’s not part of this conversation, other than the overall player personnel strategy a team uses. In that respect, the Reds still haven’t finished their work.
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Fox and Rosales
Together Again! Go west, says I.
by Ewok on Feb 4, 2010 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I bet you do
How’s Colerain looking these days?
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Criminal ...
/rim shot
//calls mother in Price Hill to make sure she’s still alive
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by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 4, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Sadly
could you find Colerain with mapquest and a GPS?
by Ewok on Feb 4, 2010 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Uh, yeah.....I'm a full time resident of the area, not just some fly-by-night visitor :)
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Dana Eveland isn't the PTBNL,
by the way. Toronto claimed him and worked out a trade for, of course, a PTBNL or cash.
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by Thundering Turtle on Feb 6, 2010 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ok, so the Reds are getting someone from Toronto, right?
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Last year, Dusty Baker said that it was his role to teach Willy to hit more doubles.
Dusty can’t teach or Willy sucks so bad that he can’t be taught how NOT to suck.
Tough call.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Here's something that I don't think has been mentioned here:
Orlando Cabrera has earned 2 Gold Gloves at shortstop, once as recently as 2007.
I don’t expect him to be as good as Janish, especially with more age, but it’s not to be completely discarded.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
He was above average until 2008
But fell off a cliff last year. And projections this year are less than kind. Is it one tough outlier year, or is it his age catching up with him?
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by BK on Feb 4, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me,
or does Orlando Cabrera look a lot like Frida Kahlo? I will investigate further and report back…
He sits alone...Reds are not home.
they have the same moustache and everything
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd because that's what I was gonna say
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I'm not sure...
I’ll need to see several dozen Orlando Cabrera self-portraits to compare.
by the finest muffins on Feb 4, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
That is one hell of an eyebrow
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by Dave from Louisville on Feb 4, 2010 9:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well stated, and worthy of a rec
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okay I am going to ask a dumb SB nation question
How the hell do I post a picture that is on my desktop? I have only ever been able to post pictures that have their own website. There are many awesome pictures I would to upload from my desktop.
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upload it to a website first
We like Photobucket here, but there are lots of others. ImageShack, flickr, etc.
Make it sure it’s one that allows “hot linking.” Some of them block remote links, for bandwidth reasons.
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and for goodness' sake
make sure you know what the hotlink blocker looks like.
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by Dave from Louisville on Feb 4, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
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by Dave from Louisville on Feb 4, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think I got it
You should follow me on twitter @DavefrmLville....the Onion does!
by Dave from Louisville on Feb 4, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
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by Dave from Louisville on Feb 4, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
nice and tasteless
i expect nothing less
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ya think so, champ?
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no one said it was classy!
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by Dave from Louisville on Feb 5, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
He's also a Louisville fan....what do you expect?
j/k Dave
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Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy
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Fat Humps!
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by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 5, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Rosie had a "little heartbreak feeling"?
Cincy bleeds for you Rosie! Well, maybe not, but we will certainly miss you more than Taveras.
I'd miss ball cancer more than Willy
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by Farneyismycopilot on Feb 5, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I am gald to see
O-Cab coming to the Colts, oops I mean Reds. I was so frustrated with the incosistant play of WT last year. I think he it wasn’t for his cold streak, the Reds would would have won a few more games last year.
This is my first post in this Blog as I am new to the Blogging world in general. I mostly post at Stampede Blue, but my attention will shift to the Reds as soon as football is over!
And take the Pacers with you!
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Hi, hello, & welcome!
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Bury my heart
At the 2004 game between the Pacers and Pistons…That was our year until that happened and the Pacers have not been the same since. I don’t follow them that closely anymore, or the NBA for that matter. The Reds come second to me behind the Colts with the Blackhawks being a 3rd.
Will you changing your moniker to GuruRed during the BB season?
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No, I can't
But know this…I HATE the Chicago Cubs! My grandfather played for the Sox, the hatered runs deep!
Fangraphs on Rosales
UTIF: Adam Rosales, Oakland (2,4,5)
As a 26-year-old in the International League last year, Rosales posted an MLE either of .297/.347/.505 (Minor League Splits) or .309/.373/.573 (Baseball Prospectus), depending on who you believe. A certain type of reader might cite the paucity of plate appearances (125) and cite sample size issue. To which gesture I’d reply: "Stop it with your Tyranny of Reason!"
CHONE projects Rosales to have something like a league-average bat, and, provided that TotalZone isn’t a lying liarface from Liarville, it appears as though Rosales can handle shortstop. Now that he’s in Oakland, the chances of him securing some playing time have probably improved. Yeah, he’ll still be a back-up at short and second, but at least he’ll be the primary back-up. That was less the case in Cincy, where he had Paul Janish sticking around and the specter of Dusty Baker with which to contend.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/all-joy-team-all-the-right-moves-and-other-notes
Rosie can't handle SS
And Dusty liked him. It was Janish was buried so deep on the bench it became a running joke.
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I'm not sure the efficacy of doing MLE for 125 PAs
when 266 actual Major League PAs gave him a 213/303/317
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
That breakdown of Rosie
was from the “All-Joy-Team” series of articles, which is less about how good a player is, than it is about how much the author likes a particular player because of (to my eye) mostly absurd reasons. Those MLEs are pretty awesome, but Rosie will never approaches them. It was a fluke 1/4-season at AAA that you could find from many bad hitters.
FWIW, I don’t think Rosales would be bad at SS if given semi-regular time there – he’d at least be better than Keppinger, or a number of other guys who have managed to play some regular games at SS in recent years. Just to stir up the pot, he’d probably be better than O-Cab if his nosedive from last season was for real.
I love Keppy as much as the next person
But he did not belong at SS. The Reds were the only ones to give him semi-regular time there, and that was sheer desperation.
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Wait until the A's get desperate enough to watch Rosie take 6 stuttering steps while attempting to catch and throw a ball at SS.
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
Don't forget the Triple Clutch arm action
But he’s old school…Sprints to first on a walk….
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weren't you a big Gary Majewski fan?
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Fuck no...that guy was creepy as hell...
I ADMIT MY ERROR ABOUT GOMES
Majewski looked a refugee from the psychedelic wars,,,
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