Red Reposter - OMG!! Votto and Alonso are Totally BFFs!!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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Joey Votto says he's not passed the problems that sidelined him last season
"A lot of people want miracles," he said. "Life’s not like that. I’m making progress. I’m going in the right direction."
I think it's pretty easy to underestimate just how difficult this kind of thing must be. And it's really good to see Votto be so realistic about it. I'm rooting for this guy 100%. Not as a ballplayer, but as a person. -
Yonder Alonso says he is learning a lot from Votto
In fact, the two have become good friends. "I thought when I first came in, ‘Man, it is going to be hard dealing with Votto,’ " Alonso said. "But it was the exact opposite. He has just done nothing but help me out and been a good friend. He told me how Albert Pujols (of the St. Louis Cardinals) helped him out a lot and he is trying to do the same for me." -
The bidding is now open for the opportunity to be in a team photo with the Reds
Me, I'd be too embarrassed to do such a thing. A scrawny idiot with a goofball smile and two thumbs up would be hilariously conspicuous in a photo with 24 imposing athletes and Danny Ray Herrera. -
Sheldon wonders what the addition of Jonny Gomes does to the LF sitch
so he asked Dusty:
"I don't know yet," he said. "We have tremendous talent up there. We have Dickerson. Gomes is a heck of a hitter. We have Nix, who did a good job for us. Balentien, I heard he had a good winter. Heisey was our [minor league] player of the year. I don't know Anderson and I heard a little bit about Dorn. We're trying to go north with the best team that can go north."
He also says Todd Frazier and Juan Francisco will start in the infield, likely at 3B. Once they get their infield legs on them they will check out the outfield too. I think for those of us wondering what the Reds thought of Frazier this is an interesting tidbit. It seems they see him as an infielder first. Whether that means 3B, SS, 2B, or 1B remains to be seen. - Jerry Crasnick has a piece on Aroldis Chapman's transition to this American life. PeteyHendrix FanShot'd this yesterday.
"We keep reading about his maturity," Jocketty said. "But from everything we've seen, he's a very mature kid, and very intelligent and baseball-savvy. I wonder what people are basing [their comments] on, because it's not like the Cuban coaches are going to tell you that. Maybe it's coming from guys who couldn't get him signed."
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Jack Moore at FanGraphs checks out the situations of a pair of guys who are out of options
Wladimir Balentien is one of them. Moore says Balentien is clearly behind Drew Stubbs and Jay Bruce, and Chris Dickerson and Jonny Gomes are probably ahead of him too. He says a poor spring from Balentien could lead to Laynce Nix taking the 5th OF spot. I don't really believe that though. Balentien is still only 25, and though he's struggled in the majors, he still has potential. Nix is what he is and only has a minor league deal. I think the Reds outfield, barring any injuries, is pretty well set. -
Gomes is purty happy with his new deal with the Reds
Fay has the deets too: $800K this season with an option for next at $1.75 mil. That's much friendlier than the $3 mil or so he would have gotten if offered arbitration. You gotta hand it to Mr. Jocketty. He read the market this winter like a dime-store novel. -
Doc says the Reds are still an "if" team
"If A. Harang can remember who he used to be… If H. Bailey and J. Cueto can keep the curve trending upward… If D. Stubbs is the answer at leadoff and J. Bruce is a consistent force in the middle of the lineup… If C. Dickerson stays healthy and J. Gomes stays powerful.. If, when we ask J. Votto, ‘how are you feeling?’ we’re wondering about a tight hamstring… "
Lucky for us though, he says the Cardinals are the only team that clearly looks better. And of course, he gets in his obligatory "small-market" jab. -
FanGraphs fantasy page compares Joey Votto and Adrian Gonzalez
and concludes that they are essentially equal. Votto posted a wRC+ (a nifty little stat that works like better version of OPS+) of 157 last season while Gonzo clocked in at 158. Both project to regress a bit next season for different reasons, but still remain premiere options at 1B. But they give the edge (in fantasy terms) to Votto for playing his games at GABP instead of Petco. -
Dan Turkenkopf at BtB takes an interesting look at the relationship between wrist injuries and power
which is even more interesting to me as a Reds fan, since one of our best prospects broke his hamate bone last summer.
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UNCOACHABLE!
“The second day or so here, we were working on his pickoff move to first base,” Price said. “I went to give him a little pointer and he said, ‘No, that’s not my good move,’ and the next thing you know, he has three or four different moves. I was like, ’Who’s teaching who right now?’”
That's what I hate about managers (at work, not baseball)
They observe you for two days and they think they know you well enough to start “fixing” you.
by Brian B on Feb 24, 2010 9:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
MLBTR is reporting
that the Reds have acquired SP Daryl Harang from the York
From what Ive read, He work his was up from reliever to starter in the past few years. AAA Fodder if you ask me.
And Eruption is such a good song for Jonny Gomes
Honestly, did you just type in guitar solo into google, Or did you take one look at that fro hawk and think Van Halen?
it was my first thought
well, my second. my first was Bill and Ted, but then i thought, “what real song sounds like Bill and Ted”?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
I would be surprised
if he’s AAA fodder. After four years in pro baseball, he was still in A-ball. He finally made it to AA in his fifth year, and didn’t do so well. He was released the next year – before he qualified to be a free agent. That’s why he was playing in an independent league last year.
I would start him at AA at the most.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I agree with your assessment..
..though I know not much more about him other than what I’ve read in this thread.
But isn’t AAA kinda like where over-the-hill prospects go to die? I remember reading once that some ‘career minor leaguer’ types (pitchers) felt that they could perform consistently better in AAA because there were fewer hot-shot prospects trying to catch the eyes of the front office by having a two-homer game. The feeling was that if you were in AAA, the club would come and get you when the MLB team had a need to fill. If you were in AA is what up to you to prove that you needed to be somewhere else in the organization.
This was years ago that I read this article (and established this perception in my mind) so maybe it’s no longer true- if it ever was.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
That makes sense,
and I’ve read Dusty and Walt saying over and over that the best prospects and better competition are often in AA. Dusty just said it this week in regards to somebody, Frazier I think.
Still, if the guy hasn’t performed above A ball, asking him to jump into AAA is too much, especially since he won’t be needed there.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
yeah
i see him bouncing around the lower levels, filling in where he’s needed.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Most pitchers
coming out of indy ball into affiliated ball are AA at best and would generally get hammered if they went up to AAA. Exceptions are relief pitchers but they are mostly all setup men.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
any relation to aaron?
You should follow me on twitter @DavefrmLville....the Onion does!
by Dave from Louisville on Feb 24, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
younger brother
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
flake?
I have a hard time calling what he was going through last year “flaking”. And yet, he was still pretty much a badass at the plate all year.
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i kinda thought he was joking,
but i looked at the rest of his comments and it’s unlikely that he is.
Sonny my pitched my wild
Depression...
Depression is not flaking. I went through an almost identical situation 10 years ago. The sudden loss of your dad can really mess with you. Combine that with the high pressure of playing like an all star in the show? I’m surprised he did as well as he did! I know that as far a 3 years down the line from my Dad’s death in a car accident , I was still prone to just completely break down at the oddest times.
good share
thanks
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 26, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Great point, and sorry for your loss
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Never dealt with depression, have you?
Arguing with you isn’t worth getting angry over.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Douche, it's not AWOL if you have leave to take your absence.
by Brian B on Feb 24, 2010 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you're gonna act like a jackass, at least use the reply button
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 24, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is there an AWOL button?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
No
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 24, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
We didn't take it down dangit!
Or at least no one I’ve asked did, and I didn’t drink at all yesterday so it wasn’t me. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I love Jockertty's line about Chapman and sour grapes
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
second'd
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
As do I.
I thought of you last night (and other RR drankers) when I read this yummy review.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
if anyone would like to send me beer, i would happily accept
drinking one kind all the time (it’s a pilsner style, not bad, only 4.1%), is boring. i really, really, really want a sam adams right now.
Sam Adams has a good new pilsner on tap everywhere now.
Everywhere here.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Winter Ale, mmmmmmmmmmm
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Love the crafted ales.
I’m down to the last two or three from my supply of Anchor’s “Merry Christmas-Happy New Year” Ale. I think it’s my favorite beer I’ve ever had and I guess I can’t get it again until November. I’m sure that they make something very similar. Research begins soon.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno.
I bought a case in January and I’ve been having it all the time :)
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
okay Paul.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
buy the beer
take the time to fill out the crap, spend the postage to mail it in, wait 3-4 months, get a $4 check in the mail.
sounds like a great deal.
My new BFF beers are from the Ommegang Brewery in Cooperstown, NY (yay, baseball!)
Every one I’ve had is wicked awesome. Not cheap, but damn good.
The other great stuff is New Belgium Brewery in Ft. Collins. I can’t get the stuff in NYC, but FTC is where my wife is from, so whenever we’re there we load up, and a pint of Fat Tire after skiing is about the best thing on earth.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
New Belgium beers
hit big around here last year. Good stuff. Their Mothership Wit is very drinkable and pretty cheap, and you can’t really go wrong with Fat Tire.
I didn’t really like the Ommegang beer with the cherries, but I’ve liked every other one I’ve had from them.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Mothership Wit is great, my favorite is 1554, the dark ale
Never had the Ommegang cherry beer, but Hennepin and their Abbey Ale are ridiculous.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Agreed about both Ommegangs
but I think I somehow haven’t had 1554 yet. Oh, I think I tried it, and it was good but not what I was in the mood for. I don’t usually go for dark ales.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
That's racist!
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
YES
1554 is my go-to since its oddly really cheap around here.
Thought I’ve had ommegang, though I thought I did…I’ll have to put that on the list
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Have you had Three Philosophers?
3P is one of my favorite beers, although it’s a sipper that compliments cheese.
FYI Ommegang has ties to the Belgium brewer Duvel. As a result it holds the rare distinction of an American beer that is imported into Belgium.
i had a 3P a few days ago
not too bad.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 25, 2010 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
You were the President?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 25, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Red Menace still the best candidate for Red's Field Manager
Man Thongs - The perfect male skater uni.
Hey there young fella, how have you been?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
That's cool, I didn't know that
Next time I’m in Belgium I’ll look for it
3P is good, but not my favorite
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
"Next time I’m in Belgium I’ll look for it"
you asshole :)
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 25, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Noble Pils was too hoppy
But then again, I don’t like hoppy beers.
And I definitely cannot stand IPAs.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 24, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Beers I like
Sam Adams I like:
Summer Ale
Octoberfest
Winter Lager
Old Fezziwig Ale
Cherry Wheat
Cream Stout
Hefeweizen (this is probably my favorite style beer, also)
Scotch Ale
Blackberry Witbier
White Ale
Double Bock (but after 3 in a row I can’t stand it)
Imperial White
Imperial Stout
Utopia
Chocolate Bock
Millennium
Triple Bock (after 2, I throw in the towel)
Hallertau 24 (had it once at a Sam Adams party in Boston, but I remember liking it)
Hoegaarden is one of my favorite beers
I don’t mind Blue Moon
My go to beer is Miller High Life, true story
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 24, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
If you're referring to Blue Moon and Hoegaarden, I don't drink them with an orange wedge
If you’re referring to a different beer in the above list, then please clarify
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 24, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
with an orange slice?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Then I don't drink them with an orange wedge
I’ve trained the bartenders at my local watering hole to not fruit my beer
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 25, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
If you drink enough Miller High Life the girl on the bottle starts winking at you, true story
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Winking at YOU, maybe.
Psh. Winking.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
That......dirty......WHORE!
She told me I was the only one for her!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
back in my drinking days
This bar I used to frequent, they had a trash can. We named it Edgar.
One day we put Edgar in the ladies washroom. You should have heard the commotion in there.
So I know what you mean about the winking, JCH.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
That is a true story
In college my 2nd time around, I had a sweet neon of the Miller High LIfe girl
Go figure, I was @ tOSU and someone stole it. Definitely didn’t see that one coming….
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 25, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I like cold beer
You guys are a bunch of pretenious MFers.
You should follow me on twitter @DavefrmLville....the Onion does!
by Dave from Louisville on Feb 25, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey now!
Nobody here is saying that we don’t like cold beer!
(Actually, only lagers are intended to served at the temperature you probably mean when you say ‘cold.’)
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Rec'd!
The best beer on the planet? FREE BEER.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I like my beer at 33 degrees
Which last time I checked is not warm
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 25, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't been called that in awhile
Thanks, Mads
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 25, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the Noble Pils tasted like a mixture of Bud Light and Sprite.
In a good way.
I tend to like heavier, heartier beers that might make you stop after just one say, “Damn. That was a good beer. I’m done drinking now.” But I’ve gotta say that I was ready to drink three or four of those bad boys.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah...the Budweiser Wheat Ale is, unsurprisingly, not so good.
I’m not a huge Sam Adams fan really. More generally, there are some really horrible American hefeweizens.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
they have a cherry wheat, if I recall correctly
But no has has had a Sam Adams since 1998, so who really knows?
I don't like cherry wheat at all
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't call myself a fan of Sam Adams
but every variety I’ve had of theirs has been decent… except the Cherry Wheat. It’s a cough-syrupy abomination. Cherry blends much better with porters, but American craft brewers insist on adding it to their already poor hefes. I won’t risk another American cherry wheat.
by Red Menace on Feb 25, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lost Coast Brewing Tangerine Wheat
Yep.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 25, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sam Adams :: beer
Melting Pot :: romantic dinner.
Sure, it’s not bad, but it’s pretty much the most white-bread “not bad” you can find.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
At least there's no pretension with Sam Adams
I hate, hate the Melting Pot. “No reservations?! Quelle horreur!”
If anyone would like to send me beer, I would also happily accept
Anything but Burger, I don’t have enough pepper to make that stuff drinkable.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Shut up woman get on my horse
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I'll show him where the lemonade is made!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Insert obligatory half-hearted protest to subjugating men by calling them women...
…here.
IAN! I'm on traain!
but
Not likely to be the opening video at the next NOW convention. :-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Why not?
She’s standing her ground by refusing the lewd man’s advances and suggestions to touch his steed’s penis, showed she is more intelligent by correcting him about the universe, is situationally aware enough to resist going to see “where the lemonade is made”, and even shows an empowered/adventurous side when she’s willing to lick the horse to see how it tastes. Are those not all qualities NOW would promote? :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You're gonna get yourself killed, you know that?
NOW has secret ninja operatives.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Then definitely don't visit zombo.com
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Whether you like it or not, the world has changed since 1976
by ken on Feb 24, 2010 9:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
" 76?!? ..Whoa now, slow down there, young lady."
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
That only 7 more than something really naughty.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 24, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Not to beat this dead horse again
But I definitely agree with the “wrist injury sapping power” argument. I think Yonder will be just fine this year.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
hahaha
Probably did that too, the limp-wristed pansy.
FWIW, breaking your hamate hurts like a sonofabitch. It hurt me worse than breaking my ankle, shot BAD pain all the way up to my elbow and made my ring and pinky fingers go completely numb.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Oh, you know it did
I’ve been married, divorced, engaged and unengaged since then!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I'm not engaged, Dr. McDreamy
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Not a cowincidence and irrelephant?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I bet he asked her
and she said “no.” Probably after finding out how whiny he is when he gets sick. ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Feb 24, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
What the hell ever happened to "in sickness and in health" damnit?
You’re spot on about me being a whiner though, rec’d. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
nothing sadder than a proposal gone wrong...
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I don't get it
Steve answered with a “no”? Is Steve a girl? Is the proposee a guy? Occam’s Razor precludes a bisexual love triangle, but I’ve seen weirder (online).
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
The proposee is bad at spelling/grammar
If you look closely you’ll see a comma after ‘Steve". She missed putting the apostrophe in "answer’s".
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
oh, and she forgot the "the" before "answer's" as well
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
She probably couldn't find any extra apostrophes.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
this jerk took even more
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I was thinking the same thing
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
And then I saw the comma.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I see Andyfan is on the injured wrist list
He suffered a broken hamate bone, too. Though it was because he was hit by a pitch, not during a swing.
He played so little after the wrist injury, though. At least at the big league level.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Ripping on Votto here is like going to a Christian blog and ripping on Jesus
As BK so delicately put it on Twitter: “Jesus is a pussy. Couldn’t even play through being nailed to the cross? Go back to Canada, Hoser Jesus!”
Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.
Ha! You should read what 'than said about Justin on Twitter.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Hoser Jesus might be a halfway decent nickname for Votto, come to think of it
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 24, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm for it.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
in defense
criticism of Votto (or any player) is more than welcome. healthy debate is what it’s all about, right? it’s the prickish bullshit like “Votto is a mangina” that crosses the line. that’s not debate, that’s asshole.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
i think you read me wrong
“Votto is a flake/mangina” is asshole.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
And in defense
76 is allowed to be an asshole.
Red Reporter will either shout him down (if he keeps it up) or educate/reform him. (Because none of us are assholes.)
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I guess I line up with this point of view
FVA is right. The debate last summer about Votto ranged from cruel to abusive but I think the intelligent voices won out. Calling Votto a “flake” is probably no worse than what some of the rest of us call our less-talented ballplayers. Most of us understand what Votto went through.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
Speak for yourself, asshole
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How many assholes do we have on this blog, anyway?
by thevole on Feb 24, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Everyone's a jerk. Me. You. That jerk.
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Just one, pal.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 24, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm surrounded by assholes!
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by jch24 on Feb 24, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Keep firing, assholes!
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by ZJiff30 on Feb 24, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I wonder how many thousands of times
I’ve heard that phrase about Ben Sheets. It can’t be all South Milwaukeeans.
Stabbing the other contestants in the throat isn't grounds for disqualification?
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I miss BruzFan
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
True, but he really hasn't been the same since.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
his hands got worse though.
Like he had holes in them.
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Enquirer working on the cover for their baseball section
Fay has video of the photo shoot. Two things: 1. Where’s Volquez? 2. The most accomplished pitcher in the group is in the back corner. WTF?
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That was a really boring video
After the first 20 seconds. Really? Over a minute of four guys standing still?
by the finest muffins on Feb 24, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Is it
Cueto, Bailey, Chapman and Leake?
Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 24, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
yes, please
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
this reminds me
of those old-time film clips that show Ruth, Gehrig, and two other fairly famous guys standing around laughing. These clips show up in Ken Burns documentaries.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
"Look at how much we're enjoying this National Park!"
by Brendanukkah on Feb 24, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
"Look how much we're enjoying the Civil War!"
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 24, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Look at how much we're killing time during the Jazz Age until rock n roll is invented!"
by Brendanukkah on Feb 24, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Look at how much my brother likes the Ansel Adams!
No, really. Look. C’mon. Pleeease?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Can't hardly wait
I just wonder how closely the Reds will guard the arb clock on Leake and Chapman. For Chapman, there’s no incentive to wait beyond June 2011 unless he’s not ready — and even then, the bonus-money conversion won’t be too steep if he gets arb in the 5th year rather than the 4th.
On Leake, I wonder if they keep him down until at least September and bring up Wood, Wells or LeCure to cover spot starts.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 24, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I definitely see him hitting arb by his 5th year, 2014.
That would only require him getting called up in late June or later of this year, though.
With Leake, he won’t get called up to cover spot starts. Even if he is ready-ish, you don’t want to call up a stud #1 prospect to make 1 or 2 starts, then get sent back down. I think when he’s here, he’ll be here to stay.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
With Aroldis
if he was kept down all of ‘10 and ’11, the Reds would have control of him through 2017, right? Having him up when he’s ready and becoming part of a monster rotation in 2011 is definitely the priority, but that’s not a bad fallback — assuming he’s just taking a little extra time to develop and not turning into a bust.
If things go well, the Reds could have both Leake and Chapman under team control through at least 2016.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 24, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
That could be true if things go poorly also...
under control and in the majors that is.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 24, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Even if they call him up late this year, they'd have control of him through 2016.
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A Big Train Moment
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
well crap
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
several things
1. Of course any “war” effort would get lots of attention.
2. Ruth AND Johnson were still incredibly popular, a part of our lore that is hard to imagine.
3. No television to promote this event but it was in NYC, where the newspaper must have been an awesome tool.
4. Yankee Stadium held around 55,000, so they may have lied a little on the attendance but if they could get 15,000 SRO in there, wow. I bet the urinal troughs were abuzz.
5. The announcer said $80,000 for the war effort. What did a ticket cost? This was a regular doubleheader between the NYY and Wash.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
Apparently the average ticket price at the time
was somewhere around $1.40, so that seems about right. Then again, the Yankees might have had more expensive tickets than most teams…
Also, apparently Yankee Stadium actually seated 70,000 at the time, though this is a bit muddier.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Was there a link somewhere
to this Homerific article in SI?
The storyline is that he really got a boost in his game from learning a splitter from Lehr. What was the story about a coach altering his mechanics and getting more velocity?
He had talked with the pitching coach at the University of Texas
He immediately saw something, made a tweak, and Bailey started pitching better. It filled us with confidence in the abilities of our internal pitching coaches.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Both happened
in the off season between 2008 and 2009 he worked with the Texas coach and found his mid 90’s velocity, and last year he picked up the splitter from Lehr.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
"boost staff"
C’mon, is SI written by 12 year olds now? Am I a 12-year old now?
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I hate to say it, but Doc's right
The Reds are still a big IF team.
They need way too many things to fall their way to be better than .500, not to mention making the playoffs.
Most teams are kinda iffy
Anybody in the NL-C outside of Birdland has to be wondering about a lot of stuff.
The folks who need to worry the most are the Cubbos. Another step backward and the hordes will begin to storm the palace. With the Reds, we can just be happy we’re getting better.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
Even St. Louis has their ifs
Wainwright and Carpenter were so outstanding last year that it will be hard for them to duplicate. Plus Carpenter hadn’t been healthy in years, so to count on him throwing 220 innings is premature. With Piniero gone, I’m not sure who they fill the back end of the rotation with after Lohse.
Can we get Lohse back?
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
sure, everybody's got ifs
but I don’t think the Reds are major ifs from .500.
If Bruce breaks out to an .850+ OPS and if Bailey & Cueto progress to 4.00 ERA pitchers, (barring catastrophic injuries), the Reds will beat .500. Those are reasonable – though not given – propositions.
Playoffs are a huge IF though.
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yeah if ...
… our objective is .500, it wouldn’t take too many IFs to come true so that could happen. The next logical step makes the IFs a little bit more unpredictable.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
We need a lot more offense, and better pitching results than we had last year if we're going to finish better than .500
Right now, the offensive production from our OF is the biggest IF.
We need Bruce to be the 2008 Bruce. We need Stubbs to maintain what he did in his MLB call up last year. We don’t know our LF yet.
What will we get from Rolen? What will we get from the SS position? What will we get from the C position?
Right now, it seems The Franchise and Vottomatic are the only guys we can say with any certainty as to what they’ll give us offensively.
Now let’s switch to the pitching.
Which Harang shows up? Which Cueto shows up? Which Bailey shows up? Who the Hell is going to get the bulk of the 5th SP starts? Will we get 2nd half of 2009 Arroyo, or 1st half of 2009 Arroyo? Will Arroyo be that inconsistent again?
The bullpen, thankfully, seems very solid, but the 5 or 6 guys in front of them, we don’t know what they’ll do before they turn it over to the pen.
The Reds are no lock to break .500.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 24, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
The Reds are no lock to break .500.
Duh. I never said they were. What I said was they only need a couple of players to step up to get over .500. They are not as far away as you are making them out to be.
In the past, everything had to go right for them for them to have a shot at .500. Their best case scenario this year is not .500. It’s probably not the playoffs either, but I can see this team – in the unlikely chance that everything goes right – winning 87-90 games. More likely though, I think they are an 80-83 win team.
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It only took 83 wins
for the 2006 Cardinals to win the World Series.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
well in that case
looks like I’ll be writing a book about the 2010 Reds.
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i figured I would find a big out lair
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
i clicked the wrong word in firefox spell check...
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Great, can't wait for it to come out around my 54th birthday :)
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They were basically the same 100 win team as the two prior years
As much as I hate the Cardinals, the notion that they lucked into the championship is mistaken.
i disagree
beyond Chris Carpenter and Jeff Suppan, they did not have a starting pitcher with an ERA+ over 90. Their Pythagorean record was a game worse, 82-79. Jeff Weaver pitched out of his mind in the playoffs that year. The only reason they made the playoffs was the Reds went into a worse tailspin than they did over the final month of the season.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
I’m not talking about their Pythag or how their role players outperformed in the playoffs. That team was basically the same during the 2004-2006 run. The offense was Pujols, Rolen, and Edmonds with an assortment of role players. Same deal for the pitching. Carpenter, Isringhausen, Marquis and Suppan were there the whole time. Obviously they had the same manager.
My point is that if a team wins 289 games in 3 years, it’s hard to say that they were an undeserving champion. They were lucky in ’06, but you could also say they were unlucky the prior two years.
they were lucky in 06
and they were also unlucky in the previous years. In 2004 they were the top team in the NL and should have given Boston a run for their money rather that going down quietly in 4 games.
The playoffs aren’t about the best team, they are about the team that plays the best in three individual series. A key slump or an unexpected surge can send the best regular season team out in the first round.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I know you never said they were a lock to break .500
I just take a more realistic view of this young, and largely unproven roster.
Perhaps they can go all Tampa Bay Rays for us, and do the unthinkable.
But, if I’m a betting man, I’m not betting on the Reds to break .500 based on what I see having chances to make the 25 man roster right now. I think they need more than just a couple of players to step up.
Your best case scenario is 87-90 games, my best case scenario is 82-85 games.
I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, b/c I’m sick of loving and rooting for such a crappy baseball team. I want a winner.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 24, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
The Yanks and Sawx have a couple questions
everybody else has more including the Cards, Flubs and Brewcrew. The heavy fav, the Cards is a team centered around 4 players.
Winning the LCS and going to the World Series is 'unthinkable?'
Damn, it has been a long drought for some Reds fans.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Need another reason Canada is cool besides Joey Votto?
The fact that they called it “Two Teachers, One Chair” only adds to the greatness.
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that used to cost a hundred bucks back at a strip joint in Hammond
crap, all you need now is to be a freshman.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
Jason Bay
was not on his high school baseball team. He was on the curling team instead.
Only in Canada…
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I was wondering
Let’s say I want to try out for the national curling team.
“Where’d you play curling in school, sir?”
“At … high school. Brookville High, we were conference champs.”
“Well, tryouts are Tuesday at 7. Can you be there?”
“I might need a ride.”
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Swing and a miss
Dusty Baker said it was the first [triple play] he’d seen in person. When he was with the Dodgers, they hit into one, but he was in the bathroom.- C Trent
by The Crushinator on Feb 24, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Holy hell
I just remembered, Chuck Harmon and Whip Davis are at my work today. To the autographatorium!
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Damn it all, too late
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
good lord
the feh:
We’ll get into the whole OPS conversation (he finished third in the NL in most important hitting stat) and where he thinks fits in as a hitter.
Two missing words and a missing comma in one sentence? Just try to read that verbatim out loud without sounding like an immigrant. Good thing he doesn’t write for a living.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
To be fair
I don’t think he needs the comma.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
no comma but definitely another pronoun.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
There's no way I leave out a comma after closing parens in that case
There needs to be the determiner “the” between “in” and “most,” and the pronoun “he” after “thinks.”
The two articles should really be treated as prepositional phrases branching from the preposition “into,” which he leaves out following the parentheses. Since he’s skipped the second “into,” there’s no way I leave out a comma after closing parentheses in this case, regardless of rule, as he’s introduced a new subject and verb to the reader unreasonably far away from the initial subject, verb, and preposition for the reader to seamlessly follow, IMFO.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Grammar talk=always a fun time for this former English major
Obviously the “he” needs to be in that second sentence. It’s ridiculous sounding without it. The “the” that’s missing is less egregious. It reads kind of like a headline (or maybe a text message), where they cut out articles and other less important words. Was this a tweet or an actual article? It would bother me less if it were the former.
The comma, though, shouldn’t be necessary. No new subject or verb has been introduced. It’s still “We’ll get into…”
This doesn’t change the fact that Fay sucks at spelling and grammar to the point of distraction. Others are awful, too. C. Trent’s recent article on Homer Bailey was well-written and engrossing, but every other sentence was a comma-spliced run-on. It made me want to scream (in fact, I may have.)
by the finest muffins on Feb 24, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I sympathize with the challenge of writing to be understood, rather than writing by the strict rule.
I posted a FanShot sometime back with a headline similar to “Who Should Be in Left Field?” It should have been “Whom…”, but in this context – with this audience – it’s better as “who.” While commas can be easily overused as much as they can be underused, I’d still put one there, especially coming off of a dis-attached subject, a soft, non-action verb, and a distant, non-repeated, non-literal preposition.
When I write copy for commercials, promos, and presentations I dumb it down only enough to be easily and reasonably understood. Sometimes that means adding commas or hyphens between thoughts, despite their strict lack of necessity.
When I write something to be read, I proofread at least once. It’s the reasonable, professional thing to do, even if you are writing for an audience that is sometimes emblematic of today’s comment off of Hal’s blog:
Joccity has alot of chips to barter with considered future trades to make the Reds what we want them to be
I don’t mean to come across snooty about grammar rules, I just want the PROFESSIONAL WRITERS to proofread just enough that they are coherent.
I also giggle at farts.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
All this grammar talk has caused me to become a disattached subject
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you're telling me
Answer my text, by the way.
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I did Goddamn it.
are you ready for my Sardonic Wrath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardonic_Wrath
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I think you'd more likely be an unclenoun.
by the finest muffins on Feb 24, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I am joining: MoonFog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonfog_Productions
As soon as I learn Norwegian
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better than being
an Auntie Nim or worse (shudder) a homo Nim.
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I don't think it's "whom"
You wouldn’t say “Him should be in left field.” So you wouldn’t say “whom should be.”
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Right.
It shoulda been: “With whom should we entrust the left field position?”
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I know!
…oh. You weren’t really asking me, were you?
nevermind….
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Is C-Heeze the current favorite among tigrmetricians?
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by BK on Feb 24, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
We need to re-evaluate Sutton, now that he’s bulked up.
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Did TLC teach you ladies nothing?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
is that
“The Learning Channel,” or “Don’t go chasing waterfalls”?
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The latter
Drew Sutton ain’t nothin’ but a scrub.
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That's a coincidence and irrelevant
to tigrmetrics.
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by BubbaFan on Feb 25, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough
The Kournikova rule comes into play here, it seems.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Actually, in the reversal of subject and verb in English questions,
isn’t it proper policy to restructure the sentence in standard form to dictate proper pronoun usage?
In this case, that usage would be “In left field should be whom?”
I should have been less lazy and looked up the friggin’ FanShot. The actual title was: “Who is the Reds Top Prospect?” which I believe should be correctly conjugated as “The Reds Top Prospect is Whom?” This lead me to the abandoned “whom” usage to which I was referring. I also left out the possessive apostrophe after “Reds,” as it seems to be acceptable in the common vernacular.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 24, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
No.
It’s not a direct object, since there are only linking verbs. So it should be in the same form it would take if it were a subject.
It would be “Whom should we play in left field?” but “Who should be in left field?”
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Cool.
And in the end, we all agree…Feh can’t write and doesn’t bother much to try, yielding aggravation among Reds fans and the Reds’ fans.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 24, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I knew
we could count on Grey Gray…
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you also cited EPSN.com
so, I mean, we’re lenient here.
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I love it when you analyze!!
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
We've only begun to dabble.
I promise I won’t go into the world of the rampant adjective but I do believe the Internet keyboard has wrecked the wrice.
I find myself misspelling words, leaving out the proper punctuation and not paying attention. We’re in a hurry and mostly don’t even care if it’s wrong. We just figure everyone knows what we mean. In this platform, that’s far from true.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
The biggest challenge facing the internet and email
Is that there needs to be a font designated for sarcasm.
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I think it's the Italian font
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
So all sig lines are sarcastic?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I sure as hell know yours isn't
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by BK on Feb 24, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Mine certainly isn't...
If you can’t figure out if I’m being sarcastic or sardonic…then fuck off
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what the hell do small salty fish have to do with anything?
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:.:saracsm points:.:
Let’s start it here and now on Red Reporter
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
OMG, sarcasm in braille
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Google suggests....
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Many of which you've never seen before!
Classic.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Feb 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
cumb'd
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
And the 'Sign Language Store' has unheard of prices.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
How did I not catch that to begin with?
That’s brilliant.
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by BK on Feb 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Huffy, it's not just for bikes these days
.. say I am about to get snowed in, so off I go.
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
It absolutely is
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is this still the grammar part of the thread?
shouldn’t it be an asshole?
by 'tHan on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sarcasm points?
Oh yeah, that’ll go over soooo well.
by thevole on Feb 24, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how many they've sold
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Probably TONS!
[insert sarcmark here]
by the finest muffins on Feb 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
from fay
On the chances of No. 1 pick Mike Leake and minor league pitcher of the year Travis Wood: "Leake just came out of college. That would be a long shot right. There’s not many guys who come out of college and spend no time in the minor leagues. Wood had been hurt. Let them pitch.
What injury is Dusty talking about in regard to Wood?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
The same leg injuries that hampered Jay Bruce I'm sure
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Wood missed most of '08 with a bum shoulder, correct?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
That is in the back of my head
In 2007 he only threw 46 innings, and he struggled over the course of 26 starts in 2008.
This is from Fay’s Blog:
LHP Travis Wood: He had a terrific year last year — 9-3 with a 1.21 ERA at Double-A Carolina, 4-2 with a 3.14 at Triple-A Louisville. He got past his shoulder problems of ‘08 and had velocity up to 91 mph or so. If all else is even, Maloney would get the nod based in experience.
I could have done the research to begin with, but it would have been nice if Fay would have referenced Wood’s injury history.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
From C. Trent
In our morning meeting, Baker started to talk about Ben Jukich, but didn’t know he was taken in the Rule 5 draft by the Cardinals
How could he forget that the Soulsucker was taken in the Rule 5? Haven’t the pitchers been there for a week now?
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Feb 24, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions
Dusty is the new Jerry Narron
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I want so badly to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt
But, good lord.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
when corrected,
dusty’s eyes widened, he blinked several times, and asked where he was.
Sonny my pitched my wild
by GrooveLeg on Feb 24, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who's Ben Vukich?
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'M ON A BOAT!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
You make fun
But he’s the most popular guy at the campsite when it comes time to gather firewood.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure why I found this as funny as I did.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Not a religious guy, are you?
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Beeker, were you an alter boy?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
"Were"?
I still am!
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 24, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that explains the mudslides and Grey's Anatomy
Case closed.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing can ultimately explain Grey's Anatomy
Nor can Peanut’s, Up and Seinfeld ever be explained…arbitrary mundane drivel is as close as I’ve come.
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All the more evidence that Dusty just makes shit up as he goes.
I’ve stopped listening to anything he says to the media, because I really don’t think he means much or any of it, he’s just bullshitting with them.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
Agreed.
But as ‘Nukkah said, how do you use that defense in this case? There’s a distinct difference between having diarrhea of the mouth and stopping to take a stupid breath.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 24, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
This doesn't bother me
maybe it is because I’m spacey and could see myself doing the same thing. Maybe he meant somebody else when he mentioned Jukich.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Also a nice Dusty moment:
“Balentien, I heard he had a good winter. Heisey was our [minor league] player of the year. I don’t know Anderson and I heard a little bit about Dorn.”
I heard he had a nice winter. I don’t know Anderson, and I heard a little bit about Dorn.
Shouldn’t the manager of a multi-million dollar enterprise know something about the employees that work directly for him? I might have heard Balentien had a good winter too…
well i mean
when he says that, i think he means he hasn’t seen them, and hasn’t had too many scouting reports on them. I mean I wouldn’t do an in depth study on every washed up never was who gets an invite to spring training.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair on two accounts
But Balentien was with the club last year. Seems to me Dusty should keep tabs of his off-season performance a little more closely than grapevine-listening in late February.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, that is a pretty good looking fish
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
He took it off the plaque in the bait store and carried all the way out to the end of the pier and onto the boat..
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by Madville on Feb 25, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i heard he used a nasty hook to catch it
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 25, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
You can catch all kinds of things on THAT hook!
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 25, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I think you're reading more into that quote than is really there.
Balentien, I heard he had a good winter.
doesn’t necessarily imply he heard from the paper boy. It just means he didn’t see him play in person, which isn’t unreasonable.
by the finest muffins on Feb 25, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
serious lake-effect snow falling now
I just knew that I would now be having train sex with a very odd broad in no time. I didn’t expect the bitch to shoot me though. (Pops Daniels)
BONER ALERT
Chapman confuses hitters in his first session, says teh Fey
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I got yer boner right here pal
Wait, that’s not what I meant to say at all.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Just read Fay's blog
Terrible writing. Fay and C. Trent’s blog are prime examples why copy editors are still needed.
My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts
by cesarhernandez on Feb 24, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
cnati is the future of sports journalism.
which means eventually people will stop caring about poor grammar and punctuation.
Sonny my pitched my wild
Or missing words?
If Cnati really is the future, then hopefully in the future they’ll start making enough money to hire a copy editor…..or better writers.
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by cesarhernandez on Feb 24, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
incin isn't a word, I don't think.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Im talking about words
just missing from the text. I don’t care what Chump Trent calls his web site.
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by cesarhernandez on Feb 24, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Justin is getting pretty frustrated in grad school...he might be available if the price were right.
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I read that as Shampoo killed her/his trainer
was thoroughly confused as to why shampoo needed to be trained.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Since the grammar police are in this thread....
Wouldn’t you want to go with something like “Shamu kills trainer”?
Just askin’ ;)
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 24, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
What guy?
There was a (dark and morbidly) great article in yesterday’s NYT about the ‘Travis’ attack.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's talkng about andrew
Who has a fetish strong appreciation for chimps. :)
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
trainrec'd!
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 25, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone else hate the new warm up hats?
Seems like every year they make them look more and more stupid.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
I actually like them more than a small amount
They resemble my throwback Cooperstown collection hat I got a the stadium last year.
These home caps were the worst:
Ice cream vendor caps.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 25, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Gray does not agree
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Gray made it work ironically though
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 25, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's the only Reds merchandise I own.
Got it the only time I went to Riverfront, years ago…
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
yes he did
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
wait
Was Gray being ironic, or was it ironic that Gray was able to make the hat work? PUNCTUATION!!!!
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by Slyde on Feb 25, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gray was being ironic
and you were being a bastard.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 25, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Hey Hey
I’m the bastard around here, Slyde’s gonna need a different moniker.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
That reminds me, I need a monocle
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
And spats.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 25, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Or spanks
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I'm going to kick you in the balls
Approximately 50 hours from now. you’ve been warned.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Hey
those were the first hats I was conscience of, so I am partial to them. But yeah they did look pretty silly.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 25, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
also can Janish wear them in the offseason when he works at UDF?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 25, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
He almost never drops a scoop.
Leche de Oro.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 25, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
today's photo day
Where’s the pics?
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don't know about the portraits
but this one makes me all happy inside:
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
also:
Aaron Miles doing all that we want and expect out of him in 2010:
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Looks like Slyde might have some competition
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Nice to see him smiling
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I found some
It’s so weird, which ones Yahoo chooses to distribute.
There’s a bunch here, too, though they’re watermarked.
I dunno about that green background. Looks kinda Christmas-y with the red unis. I blame Dick.
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They are
But overall, I like the lighting. Very dramatic, yet flattering. Nice, intense color. The darker players aren’t underexposed, and the lighter ones aren’t overexposed.
Last year, it was very bland, except for the wide angle goofiness. And in 2007, they had weird, underlit, yellowish lighting that made everyone look evil.
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well
Given some previous years’ photos, I wasn’t going to set the bar high.
I don’t blame the photographers. I think MLB (or maybe the card companies?) choose the lighting, etc. I’ve noticed they tend to all look the same each year, even when the photographers are different.
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No, I like the red/green a lot!
They’re complementary colors, which makes the color combination really sing. I think the fact that red looks so great against the green of the baseball field is the (okay, maybe not conscious) reason so many teams wear red.
by the finest muffins on Feb 24, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
they are complimentary colors
But it still looks like someone’s Christmas card!
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Fair enough.
You should definitely make Jonny Gomes your Christmas card cover boy. I mean, look at his face in that picture’s. He’s just calling out for a halo and wings and a sound thingy inside that plays “Hark the Herald Angels Sing.”
by the finest muffins on Feb 24, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
exactly!
Ditto Aroldis. Downright angelic.
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Hopefully Gabrielesque.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
It took me five minutes to figure out who that second guy was
And holy hell, Scott Rolen is not an attractive man.
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Rolen looks like he has just a little Stormy in him
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Yeah. Kinda Shrek-y.
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
that's a much more polite way of putting it
i wanted to say Down’s Syndrome-y, but that’s probably, you know, not cool.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 25, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I have a picture I want to post here that would put me clearly in the lead for inappropriate flags
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
But then you'd have to give yourself a popup!
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 25, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he had a girlfriend now
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by BubbaFan on Feb 25, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Set, spike, rec'd
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by BK on Feb 25, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe his mom did.
A Pete Rose by any other name would still smell of cheap hookers and pinetar.
by Pops Daniels on Feb 25, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nice post!
I agree about the Christmas-y thing, but they look pretty good. Rolen scares me a bit in his pic, though. It looks like he might just beat the viewerr down. Votto looks great as always and Gomes looks oddly cute, but in a good way.
I think it's intentional
There are probably a half-dozen or more photos of each player, each with a different mood. Some meant to make the player look tough and intimidating, some with him smiling, some “action” shots, with and without the hat, etc. Only a few are released. We just happened to get “tough” Rolen.
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Just like the NL Central, baby!
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 25, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Johnny Gomes = Stifler
Once you see it, it can’t be unseen.
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Sad news to share...
Wes Bankston signed a minor league contract with the Rangers on Wednesday, ESPN Dallas reports.
Now we have one fewer light-hitting, right-handed, career AAAA 25-year-old first baseman. Makes me wonder why we wasted 490-some PA’s on this guy in Louisville last year.
Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move. - Satchel Paige
Wankston was awesome in AAA last year
And BubbaFan died a little inside, I think.
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 24, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
nah
Wankston was decorative, but not my type.
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somebody has gotta play first base
who else did the Reds have?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
This comment was almost wasted on this bunch, but I rec'd you
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Bankston
actually played 3B more than 1B last year. He also played corner OF. Which probably explains why he had 18 errors.
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Good reposter
I’m glad to hear Votto is doing better, but I also appreciate his honesty about the anxiety issues. That is something he’ll likely have to deal with teh rest of his life and no one should expect it to disappear. I just wish hinm the best and hope it gets easier every day.
And, since I didn’t say it yet, I’m really glad they got Gomes back!
Good to have you back, poodle
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
thanks, good to be back
and it’s very good to see baseball activity. I’m looking forward to the FSN broadcast of the Reds-Tribe game on friday (is Thom going to be announcing that game? I just hope not Brantley). It’s been way too long without baseball and too long with interminable snow and cold!
The finest long program I've ever seen skated was tonight..Kim Yu Na
Extraordinary – doesn’t really express it…
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It was really good
but I also enjoyed Joannie Rochette’s performance. It wasn’t up to the level of Kim Yu Na’s, but I was so impressed thatshe could go out there and compete at the level despite her personal tragedy. Hamilton said it was an inspiration and it was certainly that.
I also thought both of our skaters looked strong which is a good sign for the next Olympics.
Wait.
There’s another Olympics?
"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 26, 2010 5:14 AM EST up reply actions
He was choked up, and rightly so
I caught myself grinning widely during the medal ceremony. I don’t know crap about skating but Kim Yu Na is really good.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
I really liked
that they shut up during her performance, presumably because they couldn’t possibly compete with or add to that story. It was so nice to see someone skate well without Scott Hamilton groaning in the background.
Also, she looked like a woman among girls. She had actual thighs! And arms!
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
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