Who's our Opening Day Starter? Dusty not sure
If not Harang, then who? I just have a hard time thinking of Arroyo as an ace. Maybe its Cueto's time.
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It has got to be Aaron
I still look at him as the staff leader. I’m guessing it is going to be between Harang and Arroyo.
Rotation out of the shoot will be:
Harang
Arroyo
Cueto
Bailey
Maloney
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
I'd rather have this Wells:
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 19, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Look! It's the Cincinnati Phillies!
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
Hell, I'd rather have this Wells
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 19, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
god
remember when the Reds had a starting staff of:
Schoureck
Smiley
Wells
Portugal
Burba
That was a pretty nice big three, plus Portugal and Burba weren’t chopped liver. Imagine if they had a healthy Rijo, and could have entered the playoffs with Rijo, Schoureck, and Smiley. Oh what could have been…
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 20, 2010 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
I have a hard time thinking of Arroyo as an ace, too
But you could argue that he’s earned it. He had a good season last year.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Bronson has earned it.
Despite Harang’s tenure…the best pitcher over the entire season last year was Bronson.
So i say Arroyo,,,unless a certain soft tossing righty gets signed…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Arroyo had a good final two months
which Harang didn’t have the opportunity to have due to an appendectomy. Harang was roling in his last 5 starts, he threw 7 innings in each start. He hit a bump after the rain delay game, but he came back and was looking like the old Aaron Harang.
Arroyo was the best pitcher for the final two months, but over the course of the entire season he was a 1.8 WAR pitcher, Harang was a 2.5 WAR pitcher. Simply Arroyo was so terrible in the first half, that despite his out of the world final 2 months, he still lost a ton of games in the first half of the season. Plus Harang’s peripherals were much better than Arroyo’s, Harang still struck out more hitters than Arroyo and had 40 some less innings. Arroyo’s K/9 of 5.2 scares me a lot. He was insanely lucky, where as Harang was very unlucky. I’d rather go with quality than luck, it has gotta be Harang, there is no other good answer.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 20, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
Lets not muck this decision up with a bunch of facts.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Arroyo's had two really good seasons
when Harang’s had two mediocre ones. I’m as big a fan of Harang as you’ll find, but it’s difficult to argue that Arroyo doesn’t earn it. He’s been a Face of the Franchise™ since he’s gotten here besides. I’d like for Harang to get opening day, but I won’t be too upset if Bronson does instead.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
FIP's for each pitcher over the last two seasons:
Harang
2008 – 4.79
2009 – 4.14
Arroyo
2008 – 4.50
2009 – 4.78
it’s hard to say that “Arroyo’s had two really good seasons when Harang’s had two mediocre ones” when one of Arroyo’s “really good seasons” matches almost exactly one of Harang’s “mediocre” ones according to FIP. and Harang has the far-and-away best season among the four. i think some of us are forgetting just how monumentally bad Arroyo was for the first 4 months of last season. i’m not saying Arroyo doesnt deserve the opening day start, but rather that the idea that Arroyo has been better than Harang over the past two seasons is bordering on nuts. such is the power of luck i suppose.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
It's a largely ceremonial honor
I think arguing for OD Starter honors with FIP is like arguing Best Burger with condiments. Nobody gives a shit who has olives and who has grape, you’re just trying to give a sop to the fans.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
oh yeah i dig that
but you were saying Arroyo had better seasons than Harang. i was saying your wrong.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
He had a good 2nd half....
He was awful in the 1st half
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 20, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Arroyo, based on the past few years performance
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
I have a hunch it'll still be Harang.
But I have no problem with that not being a foregone conclusion in February.
by the finest muffins on Feb 20, 2010 12:50 AM EST reply actions
translation
He doesn’t want to get up that early.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'm sure he has important things to do on April 4th
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 20, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
That first picture is Bronson?
That’s pretty cool, actually.
Man, you can take the Bro out of Florida, but you can’t take the Florida out of the Bro.
"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
It looks like the girl in the hat needed a permission slip to be go on Bronson's field trip
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 20, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
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