The Anti-Greats: Day 5
Name: Charlie Puleo
Position: SP
Played for the Reds: 1983-1984
Why he's here: By the end of 1982, Tom Seaver was no longer an elite pitcher, despite being just one season removed from finishing 2nd in the Cy Young award voting. As a result, the Reds sent Seaver back to the Mets, and their return included Lloyd McClendon, who almost made this list, and Charlie Puleo, who did make it. Puleo makes the list with 165.2 career innings with the Reds, a total which included full-time duty in 1983, and sparse action in '84. The bubble-gum card numbers told a pretty good story (7-14 total with the Reds, 5.00 ERA, 76 ERA+), as did the auxiliary stats. In fact, the story they told was that Puleo didn't strike many guys out (4.2 K/9), and he had command issues (5.8 BB/9), and he allowed a decent amount of hits (9.3 H/9), and a high enough percentage of those hits never landed (1.1 HR/9). Puleo was banished to the minors after just 22 innings in 1984, and never came back, ultimately being sold to Atlanta during the 1985 season. Puleo pitched a few years for the Braves, and compiled a cumulative ERA+ that was north of 100.
Role on the team: #5 Starting pitcher
Name: Chico Ruiz
Position: 2B, 3B
Played for the Reds: 1964-1969
Why he's here: Of all the players on this fictional squad, I'm not sure any have as many interesting biographical details as Ruiz. And most of them are completely unexpected, given the larger context. Consider: Ruiz only stole 34 bases over his 8-year career, and in his rookie season swiped his career high of 11. And with the middling totals came a relatively low success rate, getting caught roughly one out of every three tries. Still, Ruiz owns one of the more famous stolen bases in baseball history, stealing home against the Phillies in 1964 in a game that kick started a ten game losing streak for the Phormerly-league-leading Phillies. Similarly, Ruiz was not known for his bat, compiling a hitting line of .239/.276/.296 (59 OPS+) over 1,111 plate appearances with the Reds. Still, Ruiz was the only player to ever pinch-hit for Johnny Bench, with Ruiz being tabbed to hit in the 9th inning of a game in Bench's rookie season in 1967. After the 1969 campaign, the Reds traded Ruiz and Alex Johnson to the Angels for Pedro Borbon and Jim McGlothlin. The Reds probably tally out as winners in the deal, due to Borbon's decade-long performance with the Reds. Sadly, Ruiz died in an auto accident two years later in San Diego.
Role on the team: Starting third baseman
Name: Virgil Stallcup
Position: SS
Played for the Reds: 1947-1952
Why he's here: It's rare to see the position players on this team place on the offensive leaderboards during their Cincinnati playing days. Stallcup, however, was the full-time starting shortstop for the Reds in 1948 and '49, and was a most-of-the-time starting shortstop in '50 and '51. That kind of playing time allowed Stallcup to rack up some numbers, especially in 1948. That year, Virgil not ranked 9th in the NL in games played, but also 7th in doubles (30) and 8th in sacrifice hits (9). That's the kind of sentence that was written during the Top 100 series, so what's the deal here? Well, if you must know, the deal is that Stallcup ranked 3rd in the NL in outs made in 1948, and followed that by ranking 9th the following year-a year without the benefit of the glory of top ten finishes in doubles or sacrifice hits. With a cumulative .262 OBP with the Reds, Stallcup did indeed make a lot of outs. While there was some power displayed, the total OPS while with the Reds fell just under 600, and calculated out to be a 59 OPS+. These being the days of good-glove, no-hit shortstops, Stallcup did his part in the field as a generally above average defender, but overall was likely the worst hitting full time shortstop in the NL during his time as the starter. Stallcup was traded to the Cardinals in May, 1952 in a deal that had no discernable impact on either team.
Role on the team: Backup shortstop
Name: George Twombly
Position: LF, CF
Played for the Reds: 1914-1916
Why he's here: "Silent George" Twombly, came to the plate 348 times for the Reds, and in that span hit six triples. While that's neither unusual nor negative in and of itself, what is unusual is that those six triples were the only extra base hits achieved as a Redleg. To be sure, Twombly didn't get too many hits to begin with (cumulative .222 batting average with Cincinnati), but it's the lack of power that cements his place in this team's starting lineup. From time to time, you will see a player with a slugging percentage that is lower than his on-base percentage. It's not too often you will see one where the slugging percentage is as far below under the OBP in as many at-bats as Twombly (.222/.284/.260 with the Reds for a 61 OPS+). Twombly was a starter for just his rookie season of 1914, which was a truly dreadful season for the Reds. They weren't very good in 1913 either, but they were quite a bit worse in '14. A big reason was the offense which went from bad in 1913 (aggregate team OPS+ of 92) to flat out dreadful in 1914 (team OPS+ of 78). The Reds lost quite a few players from one season to the next, but outside of Joe Tinker, I don't think any of their losses were directly to the newly formed Federal League. Still, one wonders if the increased competition (and correlating increased salaries) caused the Reds to pull back on their commitment to fielding a strong team. Whatever the reason, players like Twombly ended up playing extensively, literally out of their league.
Role on the team: Starting left-fielder
Name: Bob Usher
Position: CF
Played for the Reds: 1946-1947, 1950-1951
Why he's here: Just 21 when he made his major league debut in 1946, Bob Usher was very clearly over his head. Used as the Reds' 4th outfielder, the youngster showed his merit with the glove, but couldn't hit at an adequate level (.204/.271/.270 for a 56 OPS+). Usher made just nine appearances with the Reds in 1947, otherwise spending that year and the next two in the minors. After proving to team management that he had matured into a big league hitter, Usher was a semi-starter, playing primarily as the right-handed end of a center-field platoon. The results were better, as Usher hit with more authority (.259/.316/.368 for a 79 OPS+), but I would imagine the team was still hoping for better, especially given the platoon advantage they were trying to cultivate. In 1951, Usher was placed in the same role, and the whole thing just fell apart: .208/.257/.310, 51 OPS+. No longer considered young enough to be a prospect, the Reds gave up on Usher, and traded him to the Cubs. Interestingly, one of the players they received in return (Smoky Burgess) was traded away two months later without playing a game for the Reds until they traded for him again three years later. Burgess ended up having a very solid 4-year stint with the Redlegs.
Role on the team: Starting center-fielder
With that, the team is complete. Were I more ambitious, I would translate each player's stats into a context-neutral format, and enter them into a computer simulation to quantify just how bad this theoretical team is. Maybe some other day. For now, the thought exercise is to stack this construction against the all-time best group, and try to imagine how many games out of 100 the lesser team would win against the greater. Personally, I would think any more than 10 wins would be a shocker.
Starting Lineup Starting Lineup
1. Chico Ruiz, 3B 1. Heinie Groh, 3B
2. Charlie Comiskey, 1B 2. Joe Morgan, 2B
3. Adam Comorosky, RF 3. Edd Roush, CF
4. Bob Usher, CF 4. Frank Robinson, RF
5. Jo-Jo Morrissey, 2B 5. Johnny Bench, C
6. George Twombly, LF 6. Pete Rose, LF
7. Leo Durocher, SS 7. Barry Larkin, SS
8. Bob Bergen, C 8. Tony Perez, 1B
9. Kevin Jarvis, P 9. Bucky Walters, P
Bench Bench
Rocky Bridges Dave Concepcion
Fritz Mollwitz George Foster
Morgan Murphy Ted Kluszewski
Eric Owens Ernie Lombardi
Corey Patterson Bid McPhee
Virgil Stallcup Vada Pinson
Rotation Rotation
Kevin Jarvis Bucky Walters
Ryan Dempster Dolf Luque
Eric Milton Eppa Rixey
Ownie Carroll Frank Dwyer
Charlie Puleo Noodles Hahn
Bullpen Bullpen
Jack Fisher Clay Carroll
Joey Hamilton Danny Graves
Gary Majewski Pedro Borbon
Rich Gale Tom Hume
Kent Peterson Rob Dibble
Earl Moseley John Franco
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No Jimmy Haynes?
I have to say, I’m a bit surprised he didn’t make the list. He may have won 15 games in 2002, but he did it in a way similar to a homeless guy finding a winning lotto ticket while dumpster diving.
Hi, hello, and welcome
Fordham, eh? No wonder you’re hanging out on a baseball site instead of a basketball one… :)
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you have to remember
He was a league average pitcher for 196 innings in 2002, compared to the 110 innings of suck that followed
by justin007000 on Feb 12, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I am more than surprised to see Usher beat out Jim Beauchamp!
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Puleo
Geez, I had forgotten this clown.
I also remember a guy the Reds had for 12 horrible minutes back in 2006 … Esteban Yan.
I don’t think he was with the team long enough to make a road trip.
But the Worsts’ pitching staff … holy crap!!!!!
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i had some fun with this
Chico Ruiz, more like Reek-o Ruiz
Charlie Comiskey, more like Charlie Comistake
Adam Comorosky, more like A Damn Commie-rosky
Bob Usher, more like L.O.B. Usher
Jo-Jo Morrissey, more like Joke-Joke Morrissey
George Twombley, more like George Tomb-ley
Leo Durocher, more like Leo Doucher
Bob Bergen, more like L.O.B. Bergen… crap… Bob Burn-gen???
Kevin Jarvis, more like Kevin Jar-of-piss
Rocky Bridges, more like Cock in Buttcheeks
Fritz Mollwitz, more like Shitz Mole-titz
Morgan Murphey, more like Less-gan Murphey (whaaaa whaaaaaa)
Eric Owens, more like Eric Blowin’s
Corey Patterson, more like Whorey Patter-suck
Virgil Stallcup, more like Virgin Stallcrap
Ryan Dempster, more like Ryan Dumbshit (you thought I was gonna say “Dumpster”!)
Eric Milton, more like Throw Battingpractice
Ownie Carroll, more like Phony Carroll
Charlie Puleo, more like Charlie Pew-leo
Jack Fisher, more like Jack-off Fisher
Joey Hamilton, more like Blowie Hamilton
Gary Majewski, more like Gary Majewski (emPHAsis)
Rich Gale, more like Bitch Fail
Kent Peterson, more like Kunt Peterson
Earl Moseley, more like Girl Mostly
Sonny my pitched my wild
Virgil Stallcup is Mads' handle once he forgets his password
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"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander
I used to play in a band named:
Virgil Willis and The Nighthawks
circa 1968
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Nice multi-part feature.
Thanks!
What did you expect? It's the internet. Some of us are full of crap.
So, ultimately, Patterson was worse than Taveras.
Interesting. Not knowing the stats offhand, I would have guessed the opposite. I guess Taveras just hurt more because it was a “fool me twice” sort of thing…?
And speaking of T-Virus, looks like he may be back in the NL Central next year. (There are a jarring number of positive comments by Astros fans on that story.)
by the finest muffins on Feb 12, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions
That's because most Astros fans are from Texas
And hence, dumber than shit. :)
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The stars are white, so big and bright... clap clap clap clap
What do you mean there’s no basement in The Alamo?
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 12, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
There ain't but two things that come from Texas boy, steers and queers!
And I don’t see no horns on your head!
/bootcamp’d
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IT will be fun
To watch how this all comes around if Willy signs with the Astrovians.
Effectively so far, the Reds have traded Willy The Virus to Houston in exchange for basically whatever we got from Oakland for Rosales, which means Miles. (Leave the money out of the equation. It’s just … money.)
Now let’s watch and see who the Astros would/could get in a deal that includes Willy.
What are the odds THAT person ends up someday with the Reds?
Stranger crap probably hasn’t happened.
There is some other Polish Ptnbl out there someplace as well.
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Houston loves Willy T. Willy T loves Houston.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I couldn't believe there would be any positive reaction from the 'stros fans...
I about shat myself reading that article….i mean, as much as we play Houston on a yearly basis…how could those fans not have realized how badly his career had turned
I just remember when I would be scared shit-less when T-Virus got on base against us..that year he stole almost 70 bases…(had to look it up, i totally forgot it was only ’08).
HAVOC...your everyday solution to clogged bases
apparently
the nature of the speedy outfielder leadoff type guy has a way of instilling a sense of adventure. Perhaps we all wish we had the Roadrunner on the roster.
Zoom
A few years back, the Cubbies were thrilled to have Pierre.
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
batting order
Wonder how Dusty would set up that batting order?
Perez in the 8 spot?
Thankfully, for idiots like you, our forefathers gave us the second commandment – the right say whatever you want no matter if you’re wrong. — Unknown, for the most part
I know how it would start
1. Roush, CF
2. Larkin, SS
by riverfront76 on Feb 12, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Deferred money
I always thought deferring a player’s salary was for the team’s benefit, but it’s for the player’s benefit as well.
Deferred money could trip up Mauer talks
The Twins have a “no deferred money” policy, I guess because they don’t want to be paying for players after they’re gone. But deferring money can save the player millions in taxes, if it’s deferred until after retirement.
It says the Reds will be paying Griffey $57.5 million (plus 4 percent interest) from 2009 to 2024.
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i don't really see how it is to the teams benifit
i mean basically it is mortgaging the future. In a sense, although it comes from a different account, Griffey will be on the books until 2024.
by justin007000 on Feb 14, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
The Reds always counted the deferred money to the present day season, that way they could complain about being strapped for cash. If they were smart they took that money and invested it so that when they pay Griffey, they’ll have 8-10% on top of it in profit.
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I'm sure they did invest the money
The question is where.
A lot of smart people lost their shirts “investing.”
However, CDs are still a good bet.
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like i mean a bunch of banks "invested" in my education
by justin007000 on Feb 14, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
by 2010 i mean 2011
so probably in like September of 2011 Justin007000 will cease to post here, but Justin007001 will appear.
by justin007000 on Feb 14, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
then again
a lot of smart people also made a shit-ton of money in 2009 investing.
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well, yes
That’s kind of the point. It’s become more like gambling like investing.
If it’s money you need at a particular time, you probably shouldn’t invest it anything that promises 8%. In this market, that’s too risky.
Financial planners often use 8% as a “conservative” return, but reality shows that’s not reasonable.
I think they do it because otherwise, it makes it look awfully tough to save enough for retirement. Real wages have fallen over the past couple of decades, making saving enough money is difficult. Pensions are fading away, and they sure don’t want to increase social security. So the “answer” became investing. Whether it works or not.
Which reminds me…Citi Field bonds have been cut to “junk” status.
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had a 60% return last year
it was kinda hard to lose money in ’09…
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
I just found an old CD of Miles Davis' 'Kind of Blue'
Miles is always a good bet.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
yeah, but
Just as with consumer credit, it allows teams to afford things they otherwise couldn’t afford.
Most people agree that it’s good or at least necessary to borrow for some things. A home, a car, a college education. That’s mortaging the future, too, but a lot of people think it’s worth it.
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well if faking my own death doesn't work
i’ll blame the government. This is clearly Barack Obama’s and George W. Bush’s fault as they were President for my college career.
Although one could blame the government for not providing enough financial aid for students, and privatizing student loans, so we have nasty interest rates that accumulate before we graduate.
by justin007000 on Feb 15, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
if you want to blame someone
blame the corporatists who’ve turned universities into zombie breeding grounds instead of institutions of knowledge.
Alright
Can we please start putting politics away for the Spring?
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by Slyde on Feb 15, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I blame the boomers
They so abused the financial aid system that there was a backlash, resulting in new, draconian rules.
How do they do it in Europe? Europeans I’ve talked to don’t seem to worry about the cost of college. Does the government pay for every student who’s accepted into college?
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Tuition was much, much less for boomers, even in real dollars
The problem is tuition and other fees have consistently outpaced inflation for decades. Which isn’t surprising when there’s a lack of an incentive to control costs, kinda like healthcare.
by ken on Feb 15, 2010 9:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Generally, yes.
Many countries also pay stipends to college students.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
From what I understand the entire education system is different in Europe
In high school they start to prepare people who aren’t “university material” for a trade. That also has its downsides, as my German’s professor’s father in law was prepared for a trade that was obsolete 10 years ago, and he has struggled to find a real job since then. But the intent is good and it works well for a lot of people.
In the U.S. we have this idea that everybody should got to college. I mean as an undergraduate I remember people who had no business being in school. They weren’t all that bright, they didn’t have any intellectual curiosity Ohio Northern University (a private school which is rated 2nd amongst midwestern baccalaureate schools, and i have no idea what a baccalaureate college is). These students were simply accepted to pay tuition for a quarter to a year, and fail out and ONU is a solid private school. I can’t imagine what it is like at a public school such as Bowling Green University which has to accept everybody who has taken an ACT or SAT test and graduate from high school.
I think a big part of the problem is too many people who shouldn’t go to college do, because it is the new high school diploma, and if you want to compete in the job market you need a degree.
by justin007000 on Feb 15, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I agree on that
The number of people who go to college has increased sharply, while the number who graduate has remained flat. Some people just aren’t suited to college. They end up going deeply into debt, then wash out before getting a degree. Many of them fall victim to what amounts to a student loan scam.
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my mom is a home instructor for my local district
and she had a student who was hell bent on going to college, who couldn’t even write a sentence much less a paragraph. But when she graduates from high school, all she has to do is take an ACT or SAT and all Ohio public universities are obligated to accept her. I mean bigger schools like Miami, Cincinnati, OSU can shunt her off to a branch campus, but a place like Wright State has to accept her.
by justin007000 on Feb 15, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well when I was in HS
Only 20% of my class attended college and only about
50% of those who attended finished with a degree.
It was way more important in those days to have a HS diploma.
By the time the FMM graduated from HS ( about 8 years after I graduated) 75% of her graduating class had gone on to college with about 80% of those attending graduating.
As my kids have graduated from HS about 96% of their peers have gone to college and around 70% of those students have graduated.
2 of my kids are already pursueing graduate degrees wth a thrid soon to follow.
In 1967 a HS diploma opened a lot of door, without it. one’s opportunities were limited
By 1985 a college diploma opened a lot of doors, without it. one’s opportunities were limited
By 2000 a graduate degree opened a lot of doors, one’s opportunities were limited
This information is slanted towards those of us who actually went to functional HSs and had the parental support and encouragement to achieve higher academic goals than most of my young neighbors here in the hood.
Sadly here in 2010 there aren’t enough jobs no matter how many degrees one gets.
I blame jch.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
I struggle to think of high school friends and associates
who at least didn’t try to go to college, I mean some of them only went for a semester and dropped out, but still.
by justin007000 on Feb 16, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm noticing in my job search
That the master’s degree is dangerously close to being the new bachelor’s degree. I’m used to seeing jobs that require a bachelor’s—nothing specific, just proof that you completed college. Even 3 years ago when I was last job hunting, though, master’s degrees were specific requirements for specific jobs: MEd, MSW, MBA, etc. Now, more and more, I’m seeing job postings that just require a generic master’s degree.
I am not pleased with this development. I don’t want to go back to school.
by the finest muffins on Feb 16, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
An MA in art history could be fun for you
For as much as I complain about school, I really wouldn’t want to do anything else, the intellectual experience I am having is great. But it isn’t for everyone, and people shouldn’t be forced into this just to get a job. Grad school, especially in the liberal arts should be for learning, not so individuals are better suited for an unrelated desk job. This is an intellectual grind, I read a book a week for each class, write about 100 pages a semester, have to take a field exam next year, which will requiring a reading list of 100 books. I couldn’t do this if I didn’t love history.
by justin007000 on Feb 16, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
because an intellectual experience
and personal growth has no value…
by justin007000 on Feb 17, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Not to hiring managers it doesn't
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by jch24 on Feb 17, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've worked at 5 places since college
the only one that asked about college was the first place I worked. After that, they were only interested in what I had done for previous employers.
Schooling is great, but it’s a foot in the door at best. A competitive employer would much rather hire somebody that has applicable real world experience.
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by Slyde on Feb 17, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
note, this may not apply to all fields
just my personal experience.
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sure doesn't feel like it
I’ve worked more the last 2 months than I did in the previous 12.
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tell that to my mom
who is finishing her RN now at 48 because she couldnt find a stable job. years of managerial experience, but no degree. no one would hire her.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 17, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
like I said
the schooling gets you in the door. I’m not saying the schooling isn’t necessary, just that at some point you have to have experience with it.
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well
see, what im saying is, my mom had already been in the door. numerous times. she has 10 years of cumulative management experience. then, like 8 years ago she lost her job and couldnt find another one. everyone had decided that the degree was what mattered.
no matter though. she’s gonna be one hell of a nurse.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 17, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
no, actually, you don't know shit until you've been in the real world
there’s a reason the term “ivory tower” exists.
Knowledge is overated.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
University of Phoenix!!!
You send them the $$$$
They send you the MA
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
i do want to go back to school
but full time without a job. and i don’t want to go just to get a job, i actually want to learn. but unless someone gives me a big chunk of cash, that isn’t going to happen. sadly, despite the fact i have ten years work experience in a particular field, a lot of doors are closed for me because i didn’t pay $100K for a piece of paper that says I’m qualified.
Testify, same here
I’d love to go back to school, but the cost, schedule, and being a bit pigeonholed due to having 13+ years experience in one field make me think it’s not worth it.
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Done and done!
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let's make a better deal
if you win the lottery pay for his vasectomy…
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'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
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how about i teach a distance learning class
while i’m serving in the Peace Corps?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 17, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
No.
Join America Corps if you really want to teach and make a difference. D#3 BF graduated from OSU with a Bio-Chem degree and passed on the Peace Corps because:
A. He wanted to hang around D##
B. He didn’t have to off to a foreign country
C. He gets to work with disadvantaged inner city kids in Columbus
D. He gets paid
E. It is a nice plus in his resume for grad school
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you see
I have no woman to staty in the states for
and i love to go off to foreign countries
i can even stand to live in third world countries
i really don’t care if i get paid
it is also a plus on my resume for the foreign service.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 18, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
And here I was just about to ask, Madville,
if your fancy new degree program accepted Americorps education awards. I have one burning a hole in my pocket, and it would totally cover your $600 fee—cheapest grad degree ever! Gainful employment, here I come!
Seriously, Americorps (and similar year of service programs) are fantastic. I’d recommend them to anyone who’s interested for the right reasons. A few points:
*the Peace Corps pays a living allowance, just like Americorps and others
*they’re a great way to get that elusive real world experience— I probably couldn’t have gotten my Americorps placement if it had been a regular job and I a regular job-seeker. And that placement then led directly to my most recent job.
Go for it, Justin!
by the finest muffins on Feb 18, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
I've always wanted to help people
and the Peace Corps seems like a good vehicle for me to help people, and it is also a career builder, that is just an added bonus. I wanted to join the Peace Corps when i was a freshman psych major and had dreams of being a therapist (god that feels so long ago).
I put the Peace Corps on the back burner when I found a girlfriend. But now I am free to do what I want, not what she would put up with. The ex didn’t even want to go to Europe, much less live in a third world country for two years. I actually feel like I have a new lease on life, and am very much on the mend.
The thought of joining the Peace Corps leaves me genuinely excited. I am a middle class white kid, and I’ve always gotten by on talent and ability, not hard work. While I wasn’t given things on a silver spoon, I never really had to work hard to get what I needed and wanted. I owe somebody something, and 27 months of my life in the Peace Corps working with people much less fortunate then myself seems like a good start.
I just hope I am accepted, as they actually do have standards.
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 18, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
My sister's in the Peace Corps, in Namibia
Last night in her village, a boy next door to her got struck by lightning, and on the other side, the uncle of her favorite student killed himself.
Something to think about.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 18, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Christ on a Funerial figure...
This kind of sobering information takes the edge off the enjoyment of watching Johnny Weir that for sure.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Right reasons to join Americorps/Peace Corps
1. Beer Money
2.Looks ‘Good’ on your resume
3. Opportunity to explain to poor kids why they are poor
4. Opportunity to teach foreign kids why they should learn English
5. Hot, loose liberal women.
The list goes on…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
i wanted to do peace corps
but you aren’t allowed if you’ve had a security clearance.
i’m so glad i didn’t.
We do't nned terroists in the Peace Corpse.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
that is something everybody can get behind
by justin007000 on Feb 15, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
It's usually the other way arfound
AMIRITE???
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
oh that is completely irrelevant,
i copied the wrong link, i apologize.
by justin007000 on Feb 15, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
like this....
The $555,000 Student-Loan Burden
But as tuitions rise, many people are borrowing heavily to pay their bills. Some no doubt view it as “good debt,” because an education can lead to a higher salary. But in practice, student loans are one of the most toxic debts, requiring extreme consumer caution and, as Dr. Bisutti learned, responsibility.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Student loans cover my bills
I could get a job, but at minimum wage the $200 i take home each week ain’t gonna cut anything, and the 40 hours i put in will distract me from my studies. Almost everybody I know who tried to work a lot of hours and be a full time student, got burnt out, and their grades suffered.
What sucks is Master’s assistant-ships are drying up, about 10 years ago at my school almost every full time grad student, MA or Ph.D had an assistant-ship of some kind, but now only one MA student in the entire department has one. Plus the federal gov’t doesn’t value grad school like it values undergraduate school, so there aren’t the scholarships or financial aid opportunities for grad students. If I do get a Ph.D the only way I can do it is if I am funded, but even so, both of my roommates have full funding, and stipends for being TA’s, but they still have to take out loans to help pay the bills.
by justin007000 on Feb 16, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
this is bullshit
i had a full scholarship that paid my tuition and books.
I went to school, worked 30+ hours a week, and got 200/mth from my parents.
I graduated in 3 and a half years and was married for 3 of them. I didn’t take a single student loan.
Get a job and quit devoting 40 hours a week to red reporter.
by 'tHan on Feb 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you know i would get a job if i saw a serious advantage to it
I would love to substitute teach, like I did at home at the end of last year, but Chicago and Evanston Public Schools are so over run with with applicants that I need an education degree to do that. I have applied to jobs in local archives, museums, and what not. Those jobs would give me a decent take home pay, and/or worthwhile experience for the future.
Going to Dominicks and being a cashier, bringing home maybe $200 a week wont’ give me the pay or the experience to be worth my while. I mean $200 a week will barely cover my portion of the rent and utilities. I’ll take on the extra few thousand of dollars of debt to cover my rent and food, and live a spartan existence. If it is all the same to you.
Congratulations to you and your scholarship, I feel like as the cost of education goes up those scholarships are becoming a thing of the past.
Small sample size but I’ll base it on my 3 ex’s, who were all better high school students then me…
High school girlfriend-11th in her class, high ACT and SAT scores, did not get a full scholarship to any of the schools she applied to.
2nd girlfriend-Valedictorian, ONU gave he a scholarship for about 60% of her education, she could have maybe gotten a better deal at a public school, but she wanted to be a pharmacist and ONU is one of a handful of schools in the country that accepts high school students into a 6 year pharmacy school, rather than forcing them to reapply after earning a related BA.
Newly Ex Fiance-11th in her class, near perfect ACT score, and really high SAT score. Did not get a full ride, got a nice scholarship but still has a large amount of debt.
I got a scholarship that covered almost half of my tuition at ONU, still left me deep in debt. My living expenses weren’t that high, but there were few jobs in Ada (I did work for the University, first in fund raising, later as a tutor), if I wanted a job I would have had to drive to Lima, which was 20 miles away, a part time job for that level of pay was hardly worth the 40 miles round trip.
I’m not really asking for sympathy, I am saying there is a problem.
by justin007000 on Feb 16, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
my advice
don’t do what you wanna do….do what’s gonna get ya paid.
check out the job ads in sunday’s paper and list the salaries in order by profession. focus on something in the top 10.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Actually I am leaving academia after I graduate
I have decided that. The job market in my field is too scary, I think something like 30% of Ph.D’s find tenure track positions. A few more find full time jobs, but we have a few non-tenure full time profs here, and that life is rather unappealing, teach 4 classes each semester, survive contract to contract which is dictated by your ability to balance four classes and scholarly research.
I have thought to myself, am I in the top 3rd of my field, and the answer is no. My grades are good enough, and my profs seem satisfied with my work, but I’m not wowing anybody. Plus I am going to Loyola, which isn’t even a top 100 program, which means my Ph.D will not be that great. I mean here at Loyola, we have 30 or 40 candidates for each job, they just filled a tenure track position in American history, there were 3 final candidates to pick from, one had a Ph.D from Columbia, one from Yale, and one from Berklee. Plus I see some contraction happening in the college industry, because unless they can get their costs under control students may start to turn their nose towards college, or at least 4 year universities and go to 2 year schools. One of my high school valedictorians went to community college for 2 years before entering Miami Oxford so he could save money.
I am going to try to join the Peace Corps when I graduate. It is something I always wanted to do, but between two serious girlfriends (both of whom I thought I was going to marry at some point) over the last 3 years, I have been kinda tied down to the States. I would eventually like to join the Foreign Service as a Consulate Officer. If I do get into the Peace Corps I like my odds of being a Foreign Service Officer, according to their website they hire 50 people for about every 60 Consulate applicants. Serving a tour of duty for the Peace Corps has to be helpful. Even if I don’t become a Foreign Service Officer, I still would like to join the Peace Corps, I really want to help people. Plus no matter what job I apply for, having an MA and a tour of duty in the Peace Corps on my resume will help my cause.
I am actually quite lucky she broke it off when she did. I didn’t make any compromising decisions about the next step of my life based on us. For the first time in 3 years I’m focusing on what I want to do.
by justin007000 on Feb 16, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
What about our plans..
You promised you’d be the wheel man if I split the take 50-50
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
you could apply to be a RR Mod
they seem to be hiring everyone that applies…
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
We didn't hire you OR Ewok
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 17, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
we were looking for someone
with more experience.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 17, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Madville's had alota experiences
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 17, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Did I ever tell you about the time I took some killer LSD in the O'Hare airport?
Well there was this guy called ‘Captain’ who had deserted from the Ary (during Vietnam) and….well it is getting late and the FMM is calling…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
are you sure it wasn't the san diego airport
and you didn’t go on and throw a no hitter?
Volquez, Bailey, Cueto, Chapman, and Leake. The future is so bright I have to wear sunglasses.
by justin007000 on Feb 18, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
No that was in Atlanta...
or was it Detroit…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
No I took the troop bus to Milwaukee
It was the organic hash that I ate for breakfast that day…
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Way to apply your totally different experience to the situation,
And be totally judgmental!
IAN! I'm on traain!
by andromache on Feb 16, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you got married
After one semester of college?
The Red Hot Mama got married in college, too. Is this a midwest thing? I don’t think I knew anyone who was married in college, except for a few foreign grad students.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
yeah i was 18 when i got married
december will make 10 years.
i think it was a good decision! (for me anyway)
did you meet Chan in college?
Or high school?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
good job
slapping the ball and chain on her before she could escape change her mind. ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
where did you get engaged?
TN? did you go to jared?
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
I heard he proposed at the ballpark, in a family bathroom
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
by jch24 on Feb 17, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
urinal biscuits make a lovely wedding gift!
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
Overheard, prior to a "no":
“I got you the biggest diamond I could find!”
/gestures at field
by Brendanukkah on Feb 17, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"Are you saying these aren't big enough stones for you?"
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Love it.
Much better than some overpriced, probably bloodstained, colorless rock (in one woman’s opinion.)
by the finest muffins on Feb 17, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Cheap date alert!
How YOU doin’?
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Muffins, don't listen to him.
He’s currently involved.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
I told you, you & I are just friends with benefits
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
i know some people who got married while in school
did the whole big wedding and everything. I didn’t really see the advantage to it, I wouldn’t want to deal with planning a marriage and being a student at the same time.
I know some young people who married simply because they didn’t believe sex before marriage, and they wanted to get it on…
I think the marrying age in New York is older than in the midwest.
by justin007000 on Feb 16, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Kind of something to take on a case by case basis.
If it works out, great- I want to have some kind of financial stability before I get married. Or at least have a job lined up- Probably wait until I’m out of undergrad stuff. I know I’ll have to do some grad school, so we’ll see where that goes. No need to rush things.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I married the Fabulous Mrs. Madville
when she was barely 20 and a junior in college, 34 years ago.
Although it was difficult to juggle school, working and an excessive amount of intimate activity, I feel it was for the best. By the time she came up for air and figured out what a bozo I was we already had 2 kids with a 3rd on the way.
Case by case is good Crolfs. Pragmatically speaking love trumps money and and security. I have made a lot of money, lost it, made a lot more used it up on kids college eds and made more and lost it in the last big economic bruhaha…through it all the really important issues remained constant: Love, companionship, intimacy and family. So please factor those in a as well…and as always: use protection.
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
by Madville on Feb 17, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec the man!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
um, you forgot baseball
The one constant through all the years, Madville, has been baseball.

Red Reporter or follow on Twitter: @redreporter
by Slyde on Feb 17, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
/Buck O'Neil'd
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Excellent.
Slyde, I’m going to assume from here on out that you sound like James Earl Jones.
by the finest muffins on Feb 17, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty close
He actually sounds like Earl Hickey.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
C'mon man.
Ease his pain.
I'd take a one legged midget over Shayne Graham in a heartbeat. - btcoop71
You are going to be severely disappointed
"aaron harnann is so aweseom" - justin
by BK on Feb 17, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
How brilliant you've become since Fantasy Camp
First it was the incredible new brand of inimitable Slyde humor and now a deeper and richer insight into the life’s most meaningful constancy…
Was it something in the Gatorade?
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
House – Check
Car – Check
College – heck
Braces – Check
New clothes – no
Furniture – No
Hot tub – No
almost anything else – No
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
It is not my fault that you all got divorced and have your kids on my bowlong night.
When is the next RRt BBQ fest?
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
next=first=when=where=jch
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin
Yeah, what he said!
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
wherever it is
expect it to be the BBQ equivalent of Quatmans. duh.
"Life is good....life is good...life is good..life is good" jch
Okay
BBQ tour is all yours. Have fun.
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
you missed your opportunity
if you were in charge of the bbq tour, you could’ve made all the stops chain restaurants.
Corky’s is the best bbq btw.
I wouldn't know, those SOBs don't open early enough on Sundays
"They're the ones that gave you the keys, they can’t get upset when you crash the car" -- 'tHan on my being a mod
Isn't that in Lexington?
Over by the Marriott Griffin’s Gate?
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 16, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
So then I'm partially correct
Looks like Corky’s is on Sir Barton Ln, and W. Tiverton Way.
The Marriott Griffin Gate is on Newtown Pike.
Looks like the Tiverton location is 15 mins away, and the Sir Barton location is about 12 mins away. I must have been thinking of a different BBQ joint around the Griffin Gate that had some good BBQ.
by Highlifeman21 on Feb 16, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yes every Wednesday evening..Stone Lanes
'The secret to chili is you gotta have good mooseburger in there."
Sarah Palin

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